CNN walked back that report already. I will readily admit to being a fool for believing any report I read from the kings of fake news.
There are wackos from all sides! But, the only "party" to benefit from this type of "news" is the democrats. Why would any conservatives/republican/right-winger want to do this? Soros is not running for anything in the current elections and anyone on the right side of the isle know that Obama and Clinton are of no threat to anything politically now or in the future! The socialists/democrats/left-wingers are the only people that think Obama and Clinton have any current or future clout in the political arena. This is what makes me lean more toward someone from the left planting these, with the intent or knowledge that they would never be ignited unintentionally, to try to spin it against the right...just before the mid-terms. The left has everything to gain and nothing to lose right now, but the right has nothing to gain and everything to lose by this.
My guess, is that if it did come from the right, it would have been directed more towards people that actually matter right now politically, people like Pelosi, Schumer, Cortez and others that are politically active and speaking out against Trump. The current "attempts" were focused on political has-beens that the left has on a pedestal and still think actually matter today!
That is why I think it came from the left. Create a narrative, report it and run with it before anything is proven....seems to be their MO lately.
Will's Link
I dont get the humor. I'm not lit up on the current administration for sure, but if some nut case sends a bomb to them, I'd be ticked. I would be very angry and want the person caught and prosecuted. We can disagree whole heartedly, but when you start doing ridiculous stuff like mailing pipe bombs etc, that's not disagreement, it's moronic, infantile, stupid, belligerent, ridiculous and quite plainly, evil.
Catch em, and to jail with em. Whether they send something like that to the Obama's, Clintons, Trumps, Sessions etc etc.
Disagreeing is ok.
You are an evil snake if you think killing someone or maiming them because you disagree with them is a good idea. Doesnt matter what religion, political affiliation, race etc you come from.
Check that out... I guess I'm not a centrist all the time. Ha!
Spot on, Will. Plenty of threads on here suggest that violence, craziness, and evil are, if not isolated to, at least skewed towards certain political parties, ideologies, religions, and races. It's pure fantasy. Craziness, evil, radicalism, and violence comes from everywhere. I'd add that whatever the background and beliefs of this perpetrator are, like everyone one of these incidents involving extremism, this behavior is not reflective of the wider populace.
This president has created a massive division in this country. He claimed to want to be the president for all but just take a look at his rallies and you’ll see he only wants to appease and please a small bas this president has created a massive division in this country. He claimed to want to be the president for all but just take a look at his rallies and you’ll see he only wants to appease and please a small base.
And if you don’t think words matter, calling the press is the enemy of the state, chants of “CNN sucks”. Cursing at and harassing the press at his rallies. These words matter. There are far too many unstable wackos that would gladly take the literal word of Trump.
If you can’t see the clear menace of this man’s influence by now then you are complicit.
Seek help.
I have yet to hear Trump call for violence against the dems. Nor have I heard what could be described as hate speech. However, I HAVE heard calls for violence from Maxine Waters, Eric Holder, and Hilary Clinton.
Ask yourself this. Who benefits the most from this? Therein will lie the culprit(s).
This turns out to be a false flag....... Put a fork in em.....the leftists in this country are done. Dems may not win anything for a decade until some fresh sanity is injected into the party.
The theory that these bombs were sent by radical lefties to garner votes is laughable.
Matt
HaHaHaHa, very funny. As if lying isn't part of the playbook. Sarcastic humor programmed into the NPC comments, NICE TOUCH.
But, Terrorism...
NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo Falsely Claimed He Received a “Device”
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo came out and claimed he also received a suspicious package–only that turned out to be false.
In a conference on Wednesday afternoon, Andrew Cuomo claimed, without confirmation that his office was sent a “device.”
The NYPD confirmed the package was not a bomb.
CNN reported that according to a source, the package that Cuomo claimed to be a “device” contained literature. WOMP WOMP
On cue, the media is already blaming President Trump for the mail bombs; CNN said “the president must tone down his rhetoric.”
Matt
If so name one.
Our justice department is as corrupt as some piss poor third world country. If this act was truly authentic they would have had the perps in custody by now. Simply not possible to be involved in so many identical acts that require a physical involvement and not be detected today. Not possible. Period. What a fuqn joke to think this is the real deal.
The Rock
I make it a point to direct my insults generally, and let the individuals decide if they apply to them, or not. Personal attacks aren't my thing.
Carry on,
The Matt
Lol, I love how when it is very likely someone who leans right it’s just a normal crazy guy.
But if this guy was a Democrat it would obviously have been because the left promotes violence, or if it was a Muslim it would obviously be because of Islam...I can go on and on.
BEG, The left wants to allow the organized caravan of over 14,000 people to enter the U.S. just, well, because, when we have American citizens living in tents in the inner cities. Now are you going to tell me the left are not loony tuned thinking people?
The Rock
Sorry, I don't share your fear and pessimism. I heard the same rants from my grandfather, my father, and now from folks my age. It's always the same..."Our country is doomed. I fear for the next generation. Only God can help us now, etc, etc....." Yet, none of that doom and gloom ever happens.
Fear, pessimism and cynicism always seems to grow with age. I vowed long ago to not let it happen to me. Call it wearing rose-colored glasses, if you wish. I call it happiness.
Matt
You would think that lefties coordinating hoards of illegals to invade our border to garner votes would be laughable too.....if it weren't true.
Yet. Rome once thought it would be around for a millennium as well...
Disgusting, vile threats and actions against fellow Americans and our institutions are sadly unsurprising: hate acts follow hate speech. It is past time for us to turn down and tune out the rabid rhetoric.
— Mitt Romney (@MittRomney) October 24, 2018
GOP Sen. Jeff Flake: "What the President says matters and if he were to take a more civil tone, it would make a difference. ... The President shouldn't refer to the press as the 'enemy of the people.' We all need to watch the rhetoric that we use." https://t.co/EtKXH3Aq02 pic.twitter.com/fvT6fb4DqM
— CNN (@CNN) October 24, 2018
The Rock
Look, doomers, fear the centuries-old inevitability all you want. I'll focus and continue to enjoy the incredible blessings we all enjoy living in this great country, now.
Matt
Find the a-hole, lock him up, try him in court, find him guilty, then send him to prison for the rest of his miserable life.
“acts or threats of political violence...have no place in the United States of America.”
TRUMP RALLY: praising Repub Gianforte for assaulting a reporter:
“Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy!”
Trump: "Part of the problem...is no one wants to hurt each other anymore" Missouri March 2016.
He will pay your legal fees if you want to body slam someone. How is that NOT encouraging violence?
Since he’s been elected, the guy has spent every single day trying to divide the nation and now he thinks that with 1 speech he’s going to mend and fix everything?
Exactly. Speculating on their political motives is a waste of time. Find them, deal with them, and move on. Whackos will always exist regardless of what jersey they wear. Always have.
Matt
now, to determine who the desperate people are....hmmm, so difficult, so nuanced, soooo like, sort of, surreal & stuff
gotta be the amish, again
This was a photo provided by the FBI. Something is amiss...
Mail addressed that way will be returned to sender, which means it goes to DWS.
Here's the link: http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-on-the-fbis-investigation-of-suspicious-packages
"6 Forever Stamps" wouldn't even make it out of the Local Post Office, with something that heavy in it.
Have you got photos of the others?
Shuteye's Link
elkmtngear's Link
"You only showed the package with DWS on it. Have you got photos of the others"?
Read the link. It says the packages were all affixed with 6 Forever stamps.
This is the Official Government Site
I disagree. The Democrats of today would have been shunned and chided by the Democrats of my fathers day. This party has morphed into a race baiting socialists world order whereby America is just another piece of real estate on par with every other country. They are a disgrace, a sickness and a blight on this nation that must be controlled and designated to non-factor status. The Kavanaugh debacle was a microcosm of their fanatical embarrassing behavior and to the ends that they will descend. Donald Trump has revealed the corrupt justice department alone that was stacked against the people. They are the enemy and a diabolical enemy at that believing the American well of prosperity built by the working class is endless in its depth. Keep telling yourself the golden calf and its teats will never run dry, content and obviously unknowing that America and academia have long parted ways....but...we have Monday night football and our children can rattle off the names and stats of sports hero's but can't point to Europe or Mexico on a globe. Great? Maybe in restaurants and stadiums.
The Rock
The Rock
Sorry, but you sound exactly like my grandfather who died a miserable and fearful man. None of his fears became reality. I'd suggest you reconsider yours.
The Matt
The Matt
"It says the packages were all affixed with 6 Forever stamps.
So what?
ALL of the stamps I buy at the local chain grocery store are also 'Forever' stamps.
Does that make me the guilty party?
One thing is for sure certain. The Democrats are desperate to salvage a blue ripple after everything they have tossed against Trump and their Kavenaugh fiasco have failed in accomplishing their intent. How many of their leaders have advocated "going lower" and promoted incivility unless they regain power? From their Mad Maxine and Pelosi babbling, one could expect that the odds that they bombed themselves for political purposes is probably 50:50--especially since so many of their supporters are way off the rail in attacking Republicans.
After all, it has been shown that they spend money to hire professional protesters and agitators.
we'll get the same , nothing
Someone is smart enough to get five identical packages with identical computer printed addresses and identical computer printed return addresses and identical envelopes with inadequate postage and no postmarks delivered to five locations in NewYork, Washington DC and Florida, supposedly via snail mail...
When I mail two envelopes with correct postage, one will arrive at its destination three days later and the other will take eleven days.
Some kind of coordinated effort gets five packages to their destination on the same day, but none functioned?
I am glad that no one was hurt, but it does seem odd.
Your grandfather appears to have been much wiser through the experience of life than you may have believed. My grandfather ..." you don't know anyone until you eat a hundred pounds of salt"....and one I firmly believe ..." One day the lion and the lamb will lay down together, but, the lamb won't get much sleep".
The Rock
The Rock
The Rock
Adding to my earlier point...there is POSTAGE DUE...there is a 13 ounce limit on First Class Mail, and 6 forever stamps won't quite cover a steel pipe.
So, how are these getting delivered by U.S. Mail? None of them should have ever got past the initial sorting. Something stinks!
We'll probably never know for sure, but this reeks of fakery!
Please name a few of the rights, liberties, and freedoms that have recently been degraded. I can still bear arms. I still have the freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and petition. I still have the rights to life, liberty, property, due process, equility, privacy, to marry, and to interstate and intrastate travel. Did I miss any of the fundamental rights and liberties?
None of those things have significantly changed in my life, nor do I expect them to.
Matt
You mean you are not yet convinced that the parasite, race baiting demons intend to take away all those rights?
How did I do?
;)
Somebody had to walk it in there, and set it on the desk. This package never saw the USPS.
The Rock
I did like the article because I do find it funny that the first assumption made seemed to be that this was a left sided attempt at self sabotage or something. I've never been one to buy into conspiracy theories, and I felt that a reminder that bad things are not always done by the left. That's it.
I didnt see any of the non totally to the right folks on here suggesting that Dem's or Con's should go hurt people or something? No idea what you are talking about there.
My entire point, was that, again, anyone of any party that does this, is, again, a frigging imbecile.
Don't be at all surprised if this turns out to be something that was done by some Antifa sicko.
"I'm just glad the bombs weren't sent by some Muslim yelling "Allahu Akbar" or we'd never learn the motive.
Yes, there is nothing funny about bombs, real or fake. But the reaction without knowing a damn thing is telling.
elkmtngear's Link
It's time to take your meds, again.
Matt
How's that Sharia law going in Dearborn MI?
Matt
Fully funded by George Soros, no doubt.
Matt
But sure. Unity and civility and blah blah blah.
Even the stupidest bomber, could get ONE of these to explode.
What the hell do you know? ...another purpose? Such as ?...wait a minute. How could it be that you would concoct such a conspiracy theory? How? Because you are one of the few that lives in the real world and not political fantasy land, which will be the story we will be told when this unravels and will have emanated. They have had the perpetrators lamped in on this almost immediately and are now choreographing and rehearsing the intent. Can't incite a political riot you know. I imagine I am another conspiracy theorists that refuses to walk up the plank to the slaughterhouse.
The Rock
those fugn amish are heartless sobs
That is, unless you believe that the Democrats would NEVER, EVER make sh*t up to achieve through fraud and outright deceit what they cannot get by being open and honest.
I agree.
Or the doppelganger sicko other side of the isle. I seriously doubt it was organized by actual DNC bigwigs - they'd have too much to lose. Even as the minority, they still have a lot of the power they desire.
This thread is a setup the right wingers on the CF for 2 reasons. 1.) if a right wing nut sent the bombs they will say either it’s a FBI setup and the Democratic Party participated or the person is so crazy he/she is not a part of the Republican Party 2.) If a leftist nut job sent the bombs then they knew it all along because that is what Dems do. This way the right wingers here will not be wrong either way and they can tell the rest of us they seen this coming from a long way off...no matter who sent the bomb.
How about let the fine men and women of our law enforcement agencies do their job and solve this crime. Anything else is guilty until proven innocent talk.
I can't imagine in this day and age that 10 of these things, some being hand delivered hasn't left a pretty generous trail of evidence. It will be interesting to see the who and the why behind this.
And Bowfreak has "demonstrable" proof of all of those claims, I'm sure.
Matt
3 out of 4 are fact. The only thing that has yet to be proven is whether the left is paying to orchestrate the alien migration.
The left's new poster child Tulsi Gabbard says it was rigged:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/358569-former-dnc-vice-chair-democratic-primary-was-rigged-for-clinton
The left's favorite Native American say it was rigged:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41850798
The ever impeccable Donna Brazile says so too:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donna-brazile-hillary-clinton-dnc-primary-rigged-bernie-sanders-a8034716.html
Paid Protesters
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2017/04/27/sorry-msm-leftists-confirm-protesters-are-paid
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/heres-proof-soros-money-funding-anti-trump-leftist-protest-riots/
The Kavanaugh stuff was all lies and obfuscation. Ford may have been raped but it wasn't Kavanaugh. The other women had unsubstantiated claims or are outright liars. Swetnick and the porn lawyer are being investigated by the DOJ for their role in the debacle.
Time will tell on the migrants.
I realize none of this counts as evidence to someone as "independent" as you Matt.
Quoting uncorroborated claims and opinions isn't proof of anything other than your disingenuousness.
Matt
How about this, Matt?
Annony Mouse's Link
Political terrorism is almost exclusively the province of the Left in America, so naturally, conservatives find the timing of the delivery of non-functioning, vaguely scary-looking replicas of letter bombs this week to opponents of President Trump suspicious to say the least.
Remember that the Democratic National Committee has officially endorsed the violent Black Lives Matter movement and that more than a few Democrats support the Antifa terrorist movement. Hillary Clinton’s failed 2016 running-mate, Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), whose son Woody is an Antifa terrorist, said recently that Democrats need to “fight in the streets” against Republicans.
Intended recipients of the packages include former President Barack Obama, former Vice President Joe Biden, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, former CIA Director John Brennan, former Attorney General Eric Holder, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), Trump critic and actor Robert DeNiro, and leftist billionaire George Soros, CBS News reports.
Some of those targeted are the worst purveyors of violent rhetoric targeting Republicans.
Hillary Clinton embraced violence against Republicans when she said Oct. 9, “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That’s why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate that's when civility can start again.”
So did Maxine Waters when she said June 23, “And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome anymore anywhere”
Eric Holder said Oct. 10 that Democrats need to get physical with Republicans. “Michelle [Obama] always says ‘When they go low, we go high.’ No. No. When they go low, we kick them,” he said to a cheering crowd at a political rally.
Both Joe Biden and Robert DeNiro have said they want to beat Trump up physically.
The bomber, if that’s what the perpetrator can be called, may be a disgruntled Sanders supporter for all we know.
As of Wednesday, all the packages listed a return address of “Debbie Wasserman Schultz,” a Democrat congresswoman from Florida who chaired the Democratic National Committee when it cheated Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) out of the party’s 2016 presidential nomination on Clinton’s orders. The FBI says the packages are connected and that more could be on their way.
President Trump hasn’t been urging his supporters to take action against his political opponents. On the contrary, Wednesday he denounced the low-budget terror campaign being waged by persons unknown as "an attack on democracy itself."
Trump has been campaigning for Republican candidates in the Nov. 6 congressional elections based on his winning conservative record. Two conservative Supreme Court justices confirmed, tax cuts enacted, a booming economy, immigration reform in progress, a new trade deal with Canada and Mexico, and many other accomplishments make the case with the American people.
Besides, the violent rhetoric and real-life violence in America today emanates from the Left, not from conservatives or Republicans. It was a Bernie Sanders-supporting left-winger, James Hodgkinson, who tried and very nearly succeeded in assassinating House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) during a baseball practice. Evidence suggests Hodgkinson wanted to kill more GOP lawmakers had he not been shot and killed during a shootout with police.
The media delights in threats of violence against Trump and those who support him.
In 2017 in New York City a production of Julius Caesar featured the lead character played by an actor who resembled President Trump being stabbed on stage. Alleged comedian Kathy Griffin appeared in a video with a fake severed head made to look like Trump.
“I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House,” entertainer Madonna said Jan. 21, 2017.
“When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?” actor Johnny Depp said June 22, 2017. “It has been a while and maybe it is time.”
And don’t forget that every single time in history an American president has been felled by an assassin’s bullet it has been at the hands of Democrats or leftists.
Since Trump announced he was seeking the presidency, there have been at least 600 violent incidents or incidents of harassment aimed at Trump and those associated with him, according to a running tally compiled by Breitbart News. “And amid this climate of hate, corporate media are purposely fanning the flames and rationalizing violence,” the media outlet observes.
None of the devices destined for the Trump adversaries have exploded. It appears at this point that they were never intended to explode. They were intended as leftist propaganda, calculated to inflame public opinion, end the surge of positive Trump news, and halt Republicans’ new advances in the polls.
Of course, for all we know at this point, the perpetrators could be Trump supporters, but that seems unlikely. With very few historical exceptions, conservatives and Republicans don’t bomb people. Bombing is what leftists like Bill Ayers and other communist terrorists do.
So at first glance this fake-bomb campaign looks like what some might call a “false flag” operation.
David Horowitz was quick to express skepticism.
“Obama, the Clintons, Soros and the Fake News channels get suspicious packages all on the same day[,]” tweeted the David Horowitz Freedom Center founder on Oct. 24. “Jeez, do you wonder who sent them? The DNC perhaps?” (The David Horowitz Freedom Center is the publisher of FrontPage.)
Just days ago all the mainstream media could generate was a mournful lament of how Republicans were on track for an electoral rebound. Before that it had seemed Republicans could lose control of Congress, which would have imperiled Trump’s presidency by green-lighting potentially scores of new investigations into the Trump administration and preventing judicial and other confirmations, in addition to the shameful probes already in progress related to the insane Trump-Russia electoral collusion conspiracy theory. But widespread voter revulsion at the Left’s character assassination of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh enraged the GOP grassroots and won new supporters for that party’s cause.
Victory was within grasp for Republicans, so something had to be done to change the pro-Trump news cycle.
slade's Link
I would suggest our bowlibs and closet democrat ignore this link and to keep their head buried in ignorant bliss.
