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Hunting5555 27-Oct-18
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Bowbender 27-Oct-18
NvaGvUp 27-Oct-18
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Grey Ghost 27-Oct-18
Rocky 27-Oct-18
NvaGvUp 27-Oct-18
Grey Ghost 27-Oct-18
memengako 27-Oct-18
NvaGvUp 27-Oct-18
KSflatlander 27-Oct-18
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Grey Ghost 27-Oct-18
Anony Mouse 27-Oct-18
NvaGvUp 27-Oct-18
BIG BEAR 27-Oct-18
NvaGvUp 27-Oct-18
Aubs8 27-Oct-18
NvaGvUp 27-Oct-18
IdyllwildArcher 27-Oct-18
Rocky 27-Oct-18
BIG BEAR 27-Oct-18
elkmtngear 27-Oct-18
Rocky 27-Oct-18
Annony Mouse 27-Oct-18
slade 27-Oct-18
BIG BEAR 28-Oct-18
HA/KS 28-Oct-18
elkmtngear 28-Oct-18
Annony Mouse 28-Oct-18
Rocky 28-Oct-18
BIG BEAR 28-Oct-18
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BIG BEAR 30-Oct-18
From: Hunting5555
27-Oct-18
That's what we call "poor man's Bondo!!" LOLOLOL

From: NvaGvUp
27-Oct-18
How is it that in a time where people with MAGA hats or shirts or bumper stickers get beat up, Sayoc's van, which was covered with pro-Trump and anti-left stickers, never got touched?

From: Bowbender
27-Oct-18
"How is it that in a time where people with MAGA hats or shirts or bumper stickers get beat up, Sayoc's van, which was covered with pro-Trump and anti-left stickers, never got touched?"

In a decidedly left wing part of the state.

From: NvaGvUp
27-Oct-18
Which leads to why I'd like to know when he registered as a Republican.

From: NvaGvUp
27-Oct-18
Maybe we could ask the Duke Lacrosse team or a certain fraternity at UVA to investigate.

From: Grey Ghost
27-Oct-18
Kyle,

What difference does it make when this nutcase registered as a republican? Are you still clinging to the theory this was all orchestrated by democrats?

Matt

27-Oct-18
Of course he is. When the narrative doesn't fit, they fit it into their warped thinking. Its something I've come to accept, begrudgingly.

If democrats win elections, voter fraud with zero evidence If democrats are in office, corruption except no evidence of this either.

The fact is, Whether Cesar Sayoc is sick or evil or maybe a bit of both will become clearer in the days ahead. Certainly he was a loser. He lived with his parents until they had enough. He lived in his van working dead end jobs and tweeting about the left and how they are to blame for his situation. He is simply a loser who latched onto Trump’s cult of personality and this element of "oh, I"m a constant victim!" What was true was what his leader trump believed or said. That was enough for him. It was he , that the leftist liberals was targeting. So he became an assassin for the cause. He would strike at the traitors, the enemies of the people because trump winked at the violence. And He knew Trump was right.

Of course there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville. And of course the country was soon to be invaded by the Caravan aided by the billionaire Soros! (Looking at you NVA) Because this loser needed to believe that to keep his anger stoked and at the ready. Like so many here. He needed a bogey man, like you guys need a bogey man to sneer at and be angry with.

It won't be long before he's the hero of the right. Theyre currently turning over every rock to find some shred of evidence that he was a liberal, paid off or a false flag, SOMETHING, but he can't be one of them.

Except he is. You own this . Trump owns this.

From: Rocky
27-Oct-18
You know what you are a told to know and do. A robot could be your twin brother both living in a echo chamber.

Republican or Democrat. Bacon that must be fried if he is the proven culprit.

The Rock

From: NvaGvUp
27-Oct-18
GG,

I'm simply asking that ALL possibilities be investigated. Nothing more.

I highly suspect he is who he's being portrayed as. I doubt he's anything other that that.

But that's what was initially thought about the UVA fraternity and the Duke lacrosse team as well and we know how that turned out..

From: Grey Ghost
27-Oct-18
Kyle,

Actually, the only thing you've asked about is when this nut registered as a republican, as if that matters in the least.

I honestly don't care if he's a registered R, D, or I, or when he became affiliated. It won't change how I vote one iota, as I doubt it will change anyone's vote.

I just don't understand all the hand-wringing over any of this. Do you honestly think a crazed mail bomber, or a caravan of migrants, is really going to energize either side to the booths, or change how people will vote? I don't.

Matt

From: memengako
27-Oct-18
FALSE FLAG... he was paid to play the OPS. He was supposed to get caught. Even an idiot with a long criminal record knows that you need to wear latex gloves when making bombs, even letters; not lick the stamps for mailing. Notice the stickers on the van. Hot Florida sunshine will fade them since 2016 Trump election. I bet it was kept in a warehouse for staging so it won't be vandalized by leftist. Remember he was broke and was supposedly homeless and living in the van; however, recent news report sez he was with his "mother". Supposedly his father was Filipino. Remember the Las Vegas shooter's girlfriend was from the Philippines. Could be the same actors set him up to take the fall for the October Surprise.

27-Oct-18
Jeez Louise, there are more conspiracy theorists here than I thought. Life must be so disappointing and sad for you guys. I"m sorry, I don't know what happened to you,or who hurt you, but seek help.

From: NvaGvUp
27-Oct-18
GG,

It absolutely matters. Matt.

If he just recently registered as a Rep, that would be a red flag.

If he's long been a Rep, that would serve to validate what we're being told about him.

From: KSflatlander
27-Oct-18
It’s a long shot but maybe he was just a crazy American with mental issues. My guess is he could have focused his crazy on anything. Another homeless person, some other driver on the road, the police, religious organizations, etc. He just happened to focus it politically and went after those that oppose trump. That does not mean in the least that all those who lean right are violent. I think his crazy could have focused on any group. One things is for sure...can’t rationalize the irrational. This guy is crazy regardless of his political leaning at anytime in his life.

Unlike many others here I still believe in ours he people within our law enforcement agencies. There are too many agents to get them all to believe and move a conspiracy. I trust they will investigate this to the root cause.

From: KSflatlander
27-Oct-18
I know...I know. Baaaa...dumb blind sheep.

From: Grey Ghost
27-Oct-18
So, now we have a 46 year-old white male shooting up a synagogue. Shall we start speculating on what his political affiliation is? Or is this another DEMON COMMIE plot to influence the elections?

Good grief.

Matt

From: Anony Mouse
27-Oct-18
All that is needed (but never reported) is to trace who paid for all the custom graphics and the van since it has been reported on his poor financial status.

The adage of "follow the money" surely applies.

From: NvaGvUp
27-Oct-18
The MSM must be SO disappointed that Cesar Sayoc is not a white guy. After all, aren't all white guys evil and haters? Weren't they praying it would be a 'white guy?'

I wonder how long it will take before the MSM starts referring to Sayoc as a 'White Philippino?'

Bet the farm they'll never refer to him as 'a person of color.'

From: BIG BEAR
27-Oct-18
Like I said on the other thread..... What difference does it make what “side” a mentally deranged killer claims to be on ?? He’s on no one’s side.......

From: NvaGvUp
27-Oct-18
BB,

In an ideal world, it wouldn't matter, nor should it.

But the MSM and the Left throw socialist politics and race into our faces on a daily basis.

We can sit back and do nothing, or we can call them out on their hypocrisy.

From: Aubs8
27-Oct-18
I normally don't post in this forum...my understanding is he had been convicted previously of felonies....why was he allowed to be registered at all?

From: NvaGvUp
27-Oct-18
Because Libs want and NEED Felons to be allowed to vote.

27-Oct-18
"He said that despite the fact that he wears it everywhere, the only comments he gets about it are positive ones."

Curious what the man's height and weight were?

Also, I cant understand why people that carry out terrorist attacks are just flat out terrorists and either crazy or partly crazy and their political leanings and motivations are not a conspiracy, but rather just the actions of a rogue crazy person, of which we have many.

From: Rocky
27-Oct-18
BB,

There you go. The default statement that justifies the next horrific act of violence to the color of gray. A simple shrug of the shoulders would have complimented your post quite nicely.

The Rock

From: BIG BEAR
27-Oct-18
What the hell is that supposed to mean Rock ?? You think I don’t care about people who get murdered ??? I put my life on the line every day for people I don’t know.

I don’t give a damned what he claimed as his political leanings.... or his beliefs.... in my world... he’s a murderous bastard.... a mental. Fry him.

He doesn’t represent Republicans or Democrats.... he represents terrorists........

From: elkmtngear
27-Oct-18

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From: Rocky
27-Oct-18
BB,

I know who you are and your sacrifices. Have I not echoed that sentiment in the past? This person is a member of our society. Get my meaning now?

The Rock

From: Annony Mouse
27-Oct-18
‘He’s 14 Years Old Living In An Adult Body,’ Says Cesar Sayoc’s Former Lawyer

A whack job easily manipulated.

Via Miami Herald:

Mail bomb suspect Cesar Sayoc was a mentally ill man searching for a way to fit into American society, and he found it by acting on President Donald Trump’s vengeful rhetoric, said the Miami lawyer who represented Sayoc in a previous bomb threat case.

Sayoc, who was living in Hollywood, Florida, out of a van plastered with stickers glorifying Trump and superimposed with rifle scope crosshairs on the faces of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, was arrested Friday in Plantation and charged with sending pipe bombs via the U.S. Postal Service to prominent Democrats.

But Sayoc, 56, who used to live in Aventura with his mother and graduated from North Miami Beach High School, was no criminal mastermind, said Ron Lowy, a family friend who defended Sayoc in 2002 when he was charged with threatening Florida Power & Light employees over a pricey bill and in 2004 when Sayoc was charged with possessing steroids with intent to sell.

Lowy described Sayoc as an unsophisticated loner who wanted to impress people but failed at everything he pursued, from strip club dancing to bodybuilding to professional fighting to the dry cleaning business.

“He wasn’t successful in anything he did,” Lowy said. “He’s been bankrupt, gone into foreclosure. He’s 14 years old living in an adult body.”

Sayoc’s claim of affiliation with the Seminole Tribe of Florida was an example of Sayoc’s desire for a sense of belonging. He said Sayoc used to drive a vehicle plastered with Seminole Tribe and Native American stickers and showed him a scrapbook filled with photos of Sayoc as an exotic dancer and aspiring pro wrestler.

“He’s half Filipino, on his father’s side, and he’s half Italian,” Lowy said. “He’s been living and creating this fantasy for a very long time. He’ll deny it’s a fantasy. But I will suggest to you it’s probably a result of emotional issues that come from his father abandoning him and returning to the Philippines when he was a child.

“He wanted a background. He wanted to be liked by people so he created this story.”

Sayoc never got the mental health treatment he needed and refused to seek help even when his family begged him to, Lowy said.

Keep reading…

From: slade
27-Oct-18

slade's Link
NYC’s 9/11 Top Cop Bernard Kerik to CNN: Your ‘Biased Coverage’ and ‘Fake News’ Legitimize Trump’s Complaints

I would suggest our bowlibs and closet democrat ignore this link and to keep their head buried in ignorant bliss.

From: BIG BEAR
28-Oct-18
I’m not interested in the political fingerpointing from the left or the right..... There’s one person responsible for the actions of this nutbag..... and his name is Cesar Sayoc......

From: HA/KS
28-Oct-18
"There’s one person responsible for the actions of this nutbag"

I agree - but he may have been used by persons or a group and if so they should be outed and charged.

From: elkmtngear
28-Oct-18
He may as well have sent "cartoon style" bombs, with the fuses unlit.

The purpose of this was not to harm anyone, it was obviously purely Political in nature, IMHO!

From: Annony Mouse
28-Oct-18

From: Rocky
28-Oct-18
BB, I would think being of the LE community you would not pass judgement until all the facts brought forth have been exhausted. Should the person be "certifiable" would he be responsible for his actions under the law that you have sworn to uphold? I totally and sincerely agree with your assessment of this man because I am a civilian who can draw his own conclusions right ,wrong or indifferent with or without prejudice or consequence. Yourself, as LE, do not possess that casual luxury and your recorded sentiments may come back to bite in the future. Social media has led more than one person tied to a LE career to the guillotine voicing their otherwise innocuous statement and belief. Something to think about in your case when engaging is specific subject matter.

The Rock

From: BIG BEAR
28-Oct-18
Thanks for the advice Rock. I am a citizen too.... with no vested interest in the case. I have every right to an opinion just like the rest of you. I’ve made it 25 years without my innocuous statements and beliefs leading me to the guillotine.... but thanks for your concern......

From: gflight
29-Oct-18
A whack job is a whack job, no matter what team they are on...

From: Woods Walker
29-Oct-18
TRUTH!!!

29-Oct-18
By that logic elk, go on your next plane ride and ask the stewardess where you can stow your bombs. Of course you have none, but do it anyway and see how that works out for you.

Likewise, put it out on the Internet about you you’d like to shoot political leaders. Name them in fact, and see if you don’t get a visit from the Secret Service or FBI. Of course you have no intention. Point being; should nothing be done? Just let this one incident slide? If you send bombs to anyone, especially former Presidents, you should be locked up. Period.

I’m so sorry I had to actually explain that to you.

From: elkmtngear
29-Oct-18
Not surprisingly, you've missed my point.

I wouldn't be surprised, if the "fake bomber" eventually walks away, and ends up with a large bag of cash, delivered in a brown bag. He appears too stupid and obvious, to be anything but a Political Tool (I just described you, as well)!

29-Oct-18
Ok, so we’re back on the “Soros paid him” thing?

Let’s go with that

The FBI and the Secret Service in conjunction with a few other law enforcement agencies are investigating this guy. I’m going to say a few dozen if not more, seasoned professionals of law enforcement.

Wouldn’t you think they’d come up with a shred of evidence that someone is paying him to do this in their investigation? Something!

Too much logic?

Because you do realize that paying someone to commit a crime is ,in itself, a crime. Right?

So why would Soros, a self made billionaire, risk prison, forfeiture if his assets all to pay a loser trump supporter to send fake bombs?

My head hurts thinking about the ridiculous follow up that will come from the peanut gallery.

And GO!

From: BIG BEAR
29-Oct-18
Conspiracy theory guys....... The case is closed on the Las Vegas shooting........

My bet is the case will close on this case with one nutjob locked up for a very long time.... either in prison or a mental facility.....

From: elkmtngear
29-Oct-18

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Some more "bombs" were found:

From: gadan
29-Oct-18
YFP, You must be horribly conflicted. As quick as you are to decry those that question the motives of this guy, you sure must turn yourself inside out watching what would be predictably, a ton of MSM each night and seeing them do much worse on a regular basis. Unless, of course, you give a pass to those castigating the right.

29-Oct-18
YFP has a point. Why would a billionaire hire a lunatic to do a job when he could afford professionals? This guy is a looney tunes lone wolf and any opinion otherwise is just wishful thinking.

From: BIG BEAR
30-Oct-18

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He’s facing a maximum of 48 years in prison if convicted......

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