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HDE 01-Nov-18
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gadan 01-Nov-18
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From: HDE
01-Nov-18
"Democrats work with those who seek to undermine the institutions of God and family, and they have a special hatred for the Christian view that undergirds the Constitution and has always marked American life."

This is why they have a snowball's chance at succeeding. There is opposition in all things, it can never be just one way only. Once freedom is tasted, anything is just plain bitter.

Good luck demon-rats...

From: Grey Ghost
01-Nov-18
""Democrats work with those who seek to undermine the institutions of God and family...blah blah blah."

What a load of crap. I'm no democrat, but I have a family full of them, and they are more devout Christians than I am.

Matt

From: HDE
01-Nov-18
GG - the democrats of which they speak are the wacko clinton and waters types, not the normal people.

And indeed the sky is falling, happens everyday...

01-Nov-18
But those far right whack jobs blowing up federal buildings and shooting up synagogues walk with Christ, right?

And it seems to me Spike, you are full of crap.

From: gadan
01-Nov-18
It's bound to happen

From: Grey Ghost
01-Nov-18
So, by Spike's twisted logic, all Christians are illegal immigrant-loving socialists.

You just can't make this stuff up....LOL.

Matt

From: HA/KS
01-Nov-18
What exactly did you think "fundamentally transform America" meant?

There is no doubt to any logically thinking person that the current democrat party stands in opposition to almost all traditional American culture, laws, and even the constitution.

You may agree or disagree with that agenda, but there is no logical basis to deny that it exists.

From: Bowfreak
01-Nov-18
"What a load of crap. I'm no democrat, but I have a family full of them, and they are more devote Christians than I am. "

There are many card carrying Democrats who are nothing like the leaders of their party. There is no denying that their party has been at the spearhead of Christian 1st world persecution since the 60s.

From: slade
01-Nov-18
So now we are to believe fundamental christians support abortion and the plethora of other progressive degenerate causes.

From: TD
01-Nov-18
Many countries in Europe where the churches may be stronger than much of the US. They are far far from having American personal freedoms or values.

While government and laws can be BASED in Christianity, it is mankind who make the government and laws, not God. Freedom, rights and American values are not the default setting. A great many Christians/churches live in socialist, even communist countries, Are socialist/communists themselves. Dictatorships for that matter. Not to mention there are churches where being "devout" may mean supporting your trans gender minister in their transition.....

Defining yourself as a "devout" Christian means pretty much nothing WRT support of personal freedoms and rights for Americans. You can call yourself a devout Christian all the while you are board by board dismantling the personal rights and freedoms of Americans. Normally those doing so are non-christian..... but it is certainly within the mission of some churches to be anti-American or support measures and actions that are.

From: Grey Ghost
01-Nov-18
Good post, TD.

Also, my spelling mistake noted and corrected. Thanks. ;-)

Matt

From: Grey Ghost
01-Nov-18
Spike lecturing someone on not jumping to stupid conclusions.....LOL!

I do love irony.

Matt

From: HDE
01-Nov-18
In case anyone is scared into thinking that someone is trying to convert you, don't worry.

Those same people need to read the documents written at the start of this whole American system of government and will discover that 'natural law' and 'creator' is used alot.

Judeo-Christian beliefs triggered that, along with defining religious liberty to mean freedom of conscience. Not all of those now dead rich white guys believed in organized religion. Those same concepts also trigger the idea of the family to be the backbone of a moral society. This same idea of family also exists in many, if not all, other belief systems. It just happens to be based on Christianity in America.

To attack and destroy the family unit, marriage between man and woman, kids to be raised by a mom AND dad tears down the the fabric of a moral society. It creates a complete disregard for others and sense of jealousy.

The best way to implement a gov't of totalitarianism is to remove all sense of worth and independency of the individual.

01-Nov-18
All registered Democrats believe in and agree with every tennant of the party platform?

I thought words meant something?

From: Grey Ghost
01-Nov-18
Exactly, Frank.

The difference between Republicans and Democrats boils down to about 10 main topics. If I cared enough, I would list them, but I don't. Not every D sides with other Ds on all 10 topics. Nor does every R side with other Rs on all 10 topics. Then there's about 30% of our country that sides about 50/50 on those 10 topics.

Of course, ridiculous generalizations and profiling are the status quo around here, so none of that matters.

Matt

01-Nov-18
You usually do Jeff! That's the point.

Matt,

Many of my family are still registered Dems, some in their 80s. Blue collar roots, Catholic, and believe the excesses of big corporate types need to be tempered and the little guy protected to some extent. All the other nonsense, they probably don't even understand it. Good people no matter what their registration card says.

From: slade
01-Nov-18
Let them explain their willful ignorance/turning a blind eye at the Pearly Gates and see where that get's them.

From: Bowfreak
01-Nov-18
Tom,

I won't disagree which is why I specifically said "Christians" in my post. Reason being is that many churches are so far removed from the church in Acts that it is laughable. The most powerful church on Earth is lead by a guy who believes that everyone is going to heaven. I would venture to guess that the average Catholic does not believe that.

Churches are often times more flawed than the people who set in the pews. For this and many other reasons, ones personal relationship with Jesus Christ is key.

01-Nov-18
Jeffrey based on your ridiculous posts, you are nothing but a scared little boy grabbing at the hem of your mommy's pant leg. Dude, get a hold of yourself. Democrats have governed for decades and you're still here. Democrats are as American as anyone else. Demonizing them has done nothing for you but made you look like a petulant child throwing a tantrum.

From: Bowfreak
01-Nov-18
The modern day Democrat party is more partial to V.I. Lenin than James Madison.

From: TT-Pi
01-Nov-18
Bowfreak , "ones personal relationship with Jesus Christ is key." Perfect.

Folks can call themselves anything they want but there is a cross to carry if you want to actually be a Christian. Upholding the words of Jesus Christ is non - negotiable.

From: Bentstick81
01-Nov-18
"you are nothing but a scared little boy grabbing at the hem of your mommy's pant leg." Say's the guy that ran away from a few questions the other night. Fits you to a tee. 8^)

From: TD
01-Nov-18
Mark, ya might have to 'splain it to him...... he thinks you're talking about one of the Beatles.......

From: Woods Walker
01-Nov-18

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Oh, tell us about scared Sybil......you have YET to answer why you are still here when you PROMISED us you'd leave the CF forever when Trump was elected. Lie much?

From: slade
01-Nov-18

01-Nov-18
Slade,

The moral pontificator. Lol!

02-Nov-18

From: Woods Walker
02-Nov-18

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You forgot disingenuous liar who won't answer for his/her/it's lies.

From: Bentstick81
02-Nov-18
You forgot one putz. "Let Illegals enter our Country for votes." Funny how you left out the most obvious. 8^)

From: slade
02-Nov-18

From: BIG BEAR
02-Nov-18
Let me pick one of those off your shirt......... The family & medical leave act........ Man do people abuse that...... The worst employees where I work and a few I could name at Ford all sign up for that crap so they don’t have to go to work...... I’m sure it legitimately benefits someone somewhere in America.......... but there sure are a lot of useless employees that don’t really need it that are milking it..........

Get a BS doctors note........ Then whenever you don’t feel like going into work...... call in FMLA..... The boss can’t legally ask you anything more.....

02-Nov-18
BB, name any benefit. ANY. and I can bet someone somewhere abuses it. Is it reason to get rid of it completely?

From: itshot
02-Nov-18
pbs, npr??

still lmfao at balanced fed budget,,,,lunatics and their tshirt memes,,,,,law hammercy & jfc

From: BIG BEAR
02-Nov-18
That’s because benefits like FMLA are handed out like candy on Halloween.... not just to people who really need it.

From: BIG BEAR
02-Nov-18
Don’t get me started talking about fraud waste and abuse of government “benefits”...... it’s one of my pet peeves....

Our food stamp program in my state evolved into a type of credit card commonly referred to as a bridge card. A very large percentage of bridge card holders know exactly what party stores they can go to to get smokes, booze and lotto.... and have it rung up as groceries....

Worse yet.... get cash from the party store owner in exchange for restocking the party store at the big box stores like Costco or Sam’s.....

Yeah....... food stamps.... A local Sam’s Club in our area is rumored to do about 3 Million In Bridge Card sales annually. One store in Michigan..... 3 Million annually..... figure out what that equates to when you factor in every store in Michigan that accepts the Bridge Card.

From: itshot
02-Nov-18
yfpz, what's your opinion on the fmla?

From: BIG BEAR
02-Nov-18
You want to go to school on the Governments dime....?? I can tell you of a single mom who had her classes and child care paid for by the Government... Then dropped her kid off at her moms and attended class long enough for her check to arrive... then dropped out of the class and pocketed the money.... I was told that is a common scam.

02-Nov-18
If your kids or grandparents get sick, you should be able to take time off to take care of them w/o getting fired - and Thanks to FMLA, you can.

For every story of abuse, I can give you one of that waitress that tends to her ill child without losing pay or her job.

I have no doubt people abuse it. But if it helps the majority of people, its good policy.

No policy is without its abusers, but those abusers are not the majority of people.

From: BIG BEAR
02-Nov-18
Not the majority ?? Are you certain of that ??

From: itshot
02-Nov-18
you should be able to take time off to take care of them w/o getting fired? or, paid by the givernment to do so..

02-Nov-18
FMLA Statistics according the Federal Govt.

Date FMLA was signed into law: February 5, 1993

Number of times the FMLA has been used since enactment: More than 100 million times Last checked 5/20/16

Percentage of US private sector employees that have access to paid family leave: 12% Last checked 5/20/16

Average percentage of the US workforce that is on FMLA leave at any point in time: 10.7%

Last checked 5/20/16

Average duration of an FMLA leave: 14.2 days

Last checked 5/20/16

Top reason for FMLA leaves: Employee’s own health conditions followed by pregnancy

Last checked 5/20/16

Top medical condition employees take FMLA leave for: Surgery

Last checked 5/20/16

Percentage of total FMLA leaves in the US that are due to pregnancy: 17%

Last checked 5/20/16

From: TD
02-Nov-18
I hate the smell of obfuscation in the morning...... smells like...... fertilizer.....

From: BIG BEAR
02-Nov-18
10 percent of the workforce on FMLA at any point in time ??

Pregnancy is a good reason for FMLA...... but only 17% of those on FMLA are off due to pregnancy.......

Are you still certain that half or more of the FMLA days aren’t abuse ??

From: Will
02-Nov-18
Dems dont want to destroy your life. They just have a different approach to improving things. There are dirt bags in both parties, and saints.

Its interesting to wonder where lines are drawn and why people draw them differently. FMLA etc are there because there was abuse which mandated something be done. Environmental protections relative to business practices likewise came about for a reason. That reason was not to blunt business development, Its because businesses consistently did things that were horrible for human health. Ironic that abuses like those resulted in the development and introduction of many "programs", and people have looked for ways to abuse those programs.

It's like abusing things is in peoples DNA.

Frustrating.

Sure wish there was a way to curb waste better. When there is a good program, we shouldn't kill it. We should look for ways to improve it so we minimize abuse, thus improving the function and viability of positive programs.

From: Woods Walker
02-Nov-18
"Dems dont want to destroy your life."

BS. They try to destroy much of my life every time they get in office. Forced health care tax, infringe on my 2A birthright, increase my taxes, devalue my home while INCREASING my property taxes, letting MEN who are sick f**** use the same bathroom as my daughter, FORCE me to pay for someone to murder their child, make ME obey every POS law they come up with and then make my state a damned SANCTUARY state for mestizo invaders!!!!!

They are doing a DAMN fine job of it!

From: BIG BEAR
02-Nov-18
You improve programs like those by holding people accountable for their actions..... For instance.... Making the person pay back the money for a class they got paid to attend with the money paid for child care.... if they drop out of the class......

Or rigorously investigating and prosecuting welfare fraud.

But some people don’t want to do any of that. They don’t want people held accountable for their actions.....

From: Thumper
02-Nov-18
The self indulgent democrats never read the memo that the cold war was really over...:D

From: KSflatlander
02-Nov-18
Will x2

From: bad karma
02-Nov-18
Dems, in general, want to control your life, from what size soda you should drink, to what guns you can buy, to whether you can cut down trees on your property, what foods you can eat, what health care you get, what cars you can drive,....etc.

That's close enough to destroying one's life for me. To hell with that.

From: Woods Walker
02-Nov-18
What would help the Dems a lot is if they'd stop LYING about what they say. ALL politicians lie, but there's stretching or embellishing the truth, and then there's 100% out and out bald faced lying, like Obama et.al. did to us for 8 years.

From: KSflatlander
02-Nov-18
What about Trumps lies? I get sick of lies from both sides.

From: Woods Walker
03-Nov-18
Trump's lies are not even on the chart of your hero Obama. That SOB lied with every breath he drew. Not only was racist sh*t bag a liar, he was INSULTING as well. Like the business I've owned and run for 42 years that I didn't build? He (and any other worthless POS that agrees with that statement) can go straight to hell.

From: Woods Walker
03-Nov-18
Yeah....Trump's lies. Like reducing taxes, improving the economy, increasing jobs, getting rid of the Obamacare forced mandate, appointing pro 2A SCOTUS judges, getting better trade deals with other nations, enforcing our immigration laws......those lies? I"LL TAKE THEM!

From: BIG BEAR
03-Nov-18
He lied to me about prosecuting that evil bitch. I wish he would have followed through on that one....

From: Will
03-Nov-18

Will's Link
https://tericarter.wordpress.com/2017/07/10/8-years-of-suffering-under-obama/?fbclid=IwAR129z1Avx2xk8LpHFO493n-Nj8KhwTZ5VRHU15zNFK861Hl5rmKF2WEnkI

I fact checked a good chunks of this. All checked out thus far. I read stuff posted here by equally far right or further right bloggers. Give it a shot. And as the author said, Pres Obama was not perfect. I'd argue his treatment of the press, though behind the scenes, was a negative just like it is the the current administration. He had warts, sure. But what he did is what actual dems largely seem to want today. Doesn't seem so demon-commie to me.

The dems I know are like everybody here. They want a better life for those who follow them. They want a chance to succeed. They want an ed system that prepares their kids for the modern world. They want safe infrastructure and safe streets for their families. They want healthy open spaces.

They may see different ways to reach those points.

To bad we cant accept other ideas may help us improve.

Heck, a level of deregulation is great for business, for example, but why cant that be measured against the environmental and human impact that it has? Why is it all or next to nothing?

There are good people on both sides of almost every issue. If the rhetoric was reasonable, they could put their heads together and "we" could have a lot of progress.

Note, that's Not saying no one disagrees. Disagreement is fine.

(Proceed to flame me. Apology in advance for not being sure when I can hop back on to discuss)

From: Grey Ghost
03-Nov-18
"Ethanol is a good example. "

You seem to have a different opinion of ethanol than Trump does.

Matt

From: bad karma
03-Nov-18
"The dems I know are like everybody here. They want a better life for those who follow them."

I.E., they want to tell you how to run your life, because they think they know more about your life than you do and they think that you aren't smart enough to make your own decisions.

"They want a chance to succeed."

By taking from the successful and giving to those who won't work as hard as those who have succeeded.

"They want an ed system that prepares their kids for the modern world."

They want an ed system that pays teachers, one of their biggest support groups, much more while wasting more time indoctrinating kids rather than educating them. And because that won't improve anything, they'll ask for more money next year.

"They want safe infrastructure and safe streets for their families. "

They want to take away the guns from people who are not causing problems while ignoring those who do. That's their solution for safe streets. And it has not worked any of the times it has been tried.

"They want healthy open spaces."

Again, by micromanaging every aspect of our lives under the pretext of healthy open spaces.

From: itshot
03-Nov-18
hay mikeyvagwagon, i'll axe again.. you should be able to take time off to take care of them w/o getting fired? or, paid by the givernment (us) to do so ?

question marks included this time, i know what sticklers you academics can be, ...hardeeharhar....

From: Annony Mouse
03-Nov-18
Democrats and the Protection of Illegals has consequences...

Illegal Alien ICE Wanted To Deport Now Charged In Wife’s Stabbing Death

Just came here for a better life.

Via Fox News:

Federal immigration officials say Oregon authorities prevented them from detaining for deportation an illegal immigrant from Mexico who is now charged in the brutal stabbing death of his wife, whose body was found in a ditch Sunday.

The case marks the latest dispute between federal authorities and Oregon over the state’s “sanctuary” laws regarding illegal immigrants.

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