May have to go to Youtube to watch the video.
His receivers make him look pretty good.
i went to a lot of games at Texas Tech and saw him play. My son goes there. I think he was always better than Mayfield but just did not have the total team around him like Mayfield did
He is an incredible QB
Something else. The Vikings Kirk Cousin is the most under rated QB out there. This guy can go.
Mahomes may get there some day, but without the likes of Hill, Kelsey, and Hunt, I don't think he could put a team on his back and lead them to championships like Brady has. The Chiefs defense is still suspect too, IMO, and that will cause their ultimate demise in the playoffs.
He is that good. Yes, he has talent around him but he is making them look even better. He makes things happen. He is physically talented but also reads defenses and adjusts like a seasoned veteran.
Agree on the defense.
Mahomes makes many plays on athletic talent alone, right now. If he's still doing that at 40 years of age, I'll concede the GOAT title to him. When he inevitably get's injured, or age wears on those athletic abilities, that's when we'll see what he's truly made of.
He is fun to watch.
He's basically a rookie. GOAT should not even be in the conversation.
He has not played defense for a single snap this year.
He doesn't play for any other NFL team.
He's fun to watch.
I agree,,, and he's about ready to fall of a cliff at anytime, threw 6 incompletions in a row last night (thought that might be the jumping off the edge...8^))) ya can't beat Father Time...
He is breaking all kinds of records. He is better than Brady was in his second year, even better than Peyton;)
I some ways the kid has a Stephen Curry feel to him. Just crazy natural gifts.
You and I seem to agree more often each day.
I'm just trying to tone down some of the Mahomes fan-boy rhetoric. Yes, he's had a great 9 game start to his career. Yes, he's set numerous records with the help of guys who routinely take his 5 yard tosses to the house. Yes, he shows great promise. But, would he be putting up those numbers in Cleveland, Oakland, Buffalo, etc.....?
Besides RG Triple Tooth Picks, Michael Vick and Mark Sanchez come to mind as other examples of QBs who didn't live up to their first few year's of billings.
I had the pleasure to watch Elway for his entire career. He took a miserable Bronco team to 9-7 his rookie year. They were 13-3 his second year, again with below average talent around him. Early in his career, he made plays on pure physical talent, much like Mahomes. As he aged, and the NFL took it's toll on his body, what he lost in physical talent, he made up for with football acumen.
The difference between Elway and Mahomes is Elway was a physically imposing man. 6'4" tall, north of 230 pounds, with a rocket arm and good legs. Mahomes has the arm and legs part, but how long will his below average physical size hold up? Brees has certainly bucked the QB stereotypes. Perhaps Mahomes will too. Only time will tell.
Not to mention, the QBs many prematurely compared Mahomes to played in a era when defensive players could hit QBs so hard their dead grandmothers felt it. Mahomes plays in an era in which defensive players get penalized for farting on a QB.
Combine that with rule changes that benefit offensive receivers, and is it any real surprise Mahomes is breaking records? That's a given in my book.
He'll probably win the SB this year, and I will eat crow. Until then, I'll refrain from accolades until he's actually accomplished something.
By accounts in the news, he is a leader. I think players are giving more because of that.
Their only loss, to the Pats, they were way behind at the half. Supposedly Andy Reid went to talk to him and he responded not to worry, he had it.
Brady didn't win that game, the Chief's defense lost it. Totally different outcome at Arrowhead.
Many of the same players Alex Smith had. He didn't get this kind of yardage. Some of those yards after the catch are being earned by the receivers, some of them are from the QB being able to throw where the defense doesn't expect.
Most teams would take him right now, including over Brady I bet.
Brady, Manning, Brees are all extremely cerebral - coaches on the field. They break down schemes in a nano second. Did you see last night where Brady faked the entire secondary out with a look and direction of his head - then hit Gordon for a TD... sure looks easy from where I sit.
Do you seriously think this kid could carry a team like Brady or Rogers with the lack of talent of their peers? If Rogers gets hurt the packers will only win 1-2 more games - period.
He is a gifted athlete with loads of talent, I love watching him. He makes it look easy and almost looks unstoppable. I wish him the best and hope he has a long bright future.
I said he is fun to watch.
What is undeniable is Mahomes is putting up incredible numbers, making the highlight reels with every game and with any hint of defense would be undefeated. He CAN run.... but he's got 29 passing TDs.... 29. (to 7 INT) And 2 rushing. Halfway into the season and has near 3000 yards passing. 137 yard total running. A bit over 15 yards per game. That's not a "running" QB. 116 passer rating. Pretty cool.
WRT YAC...... yes some great receivers. But that stat requires he hits them where they can make a move or continue to run after the catch. That's big. Have to sit down or adjust for the ball not caught in stride is yuge in YAC.......
Ready for the HOF? Nope, not yet by a long ways. But very very few HOF QBs were duds early in their careers, (could say Curt Warner was an exception) most gave a good window to the future as to what was coming. So far..... so good....
Guy is a cheater, plain and simple. Only cheater I know the CF puts on a pedestal. (Besides Trump. That's for Paul because you know it's coming,)
Hopefully he has a great career. I mean the "last" "big" generation of QB's are down to what, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees? I guess Roethlesburger as well. All those guy's are in the twilight of their careers. It is awesome to see some young guys come up and play as Mahomes has.
That Cheifs Pat's game was my favorite this year - yes, "my" team won... But it was the way the Chiefs played and Mahomes in particular that was awesome.
That said, I have the utmost respect for Brady and Belichick as a football fan. They are both the GOAT and it's not even close.
Woodguy, I was only partially jesting.
All of the records the kid is breaking are names that everyone recognizes. Hard for me to believe that when someone else breaks his, that few will remember him or think it was a fluke.
Realize, all of the changes Matt pointed to every other QB faces. There is a reason he is better.
Twenty years ago we did not have 275lb lineman running a tad over 4 seconds either, or nearly as tall. The entire game has evolved. Yes, he is that good.
Imagine if Unitas, Elway, Marino, Montana, Manning, Rogers, Brees, Brady, etc...all played under the same rules Mahomes does for their entire careers. Do you still think Mahomes would be setting records?
They did, and in some cases they played against athletes that were even bigger, stronger and faster than today. Remember steroids? Some of those guys looked like fictional cartoon characters.
Look, I understand your excitement. I would be excited too if Mahomes was in orange and blue. But don't start counting chickens just yet, unless you want to be disappointed. We've seen one-hit wonders before in the NFL, many times.
Look at the Combines then and now.
I am not counting chickens. I think he will be gone in two years.
BTW, I'm not a Brady fan either, but if I had to draft a QB just out of college in their day, my first choice would have been Elway, with Rogers a close second behind... I think Rodgers is the most accurate passer I've ever seen though... The long term jury is still out on Mahomes, but I luv what I see so far... He sure is fun to watch...