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Definitely happening in the USA
If you can work on your own car and trap, fish, and know about the woods and how to make and fit an ax handle and how to fight and shoot, your survival went up. Neo-hippies like slab city will have the stench of death in a week. Forget AR 15's and heavy stuff and buy 22 LR and 12 gauge. If SHTF you will killing dogs and cats and snaring or fishing, not hunting because the deer will be killed out in the first year. forget water purifying gadgets and buy pots and pans to boil it in.
Kinda don't think HA was referring to the zombie apocalypse........ just a shortage of folks to call when the poo backs up in the non-preper toilet......
Good for you to know anyway unless of course you already know everything?
If you have to call anyone? I guess you are counting on a grid being up?LMAO Dahhhh!
If I wasn't a diabetic I could easily live off the land. Without insulin I would be dead pretty quickly. I can hunt, fish, snare, trap and have made many fish fykes. Have all the snare cable, traps, wire and ammo to last several life times. I also can do plumbing, can build houses, electrical work and have done a lot of roofing work.
Another argument for letting the hard working immigrants in. They are some of the hardest working people on the planet and in working these trades, they’d pay taxes, contribute to our economy and become valued members of our great nation.
As long as they come in legally, I don't think anyone here has an issue with immigrants. But we do have an issue with invaders.
We talk about this often. My wife and I went to college and ultimately got advanced degrees in our fields. In our houses growing up, it was never a question, you were graduating with at least a BS/BA. Ideally higher.
Our belief is that the kids should do Community College, then get the BS/BA at a state school (save a lot of $) and then if they do grad school either state or fancy school.
But we have been feeling that should those things not be in the cards for them - they dont like that "track" for life etc, then they should go to trade school for sure. You cant down size or outsource plumbers or electricians for example :) Those are great jobs, and areas you can build your own business as well. Good stuff!
Never could understand why the inner city minorities don't pick up a trade until I talked with some inner city teachers. Apparently everyone pushes these kids to go to college and look down on the "dirty jobs" Of course college is not for most of these kids and they fail instead of getting them in the trade schools where they can start learning a great paying trade. Very sad.
"As long as they come in legally, I don't think anyone here has an issue with immigrants. But we do have an issue with invaders."
I’ve been saying for years that we will be able to name our price. For the most part, that is absolutely true. Anyone can call themselves a Carpenter, plumber, electrician etc..., but it all boils down to if you can do the work. I don’t get paid by the hour, I get paid for what I can get done in a hour. There is a BIG difference.
It won't affect me. I can fix or build just about anything. Been doing it my whole life. I've always done my own work, from working on our autos to wiring a house to laying out a set of steps and pouring concrete, from carpentry to plumbing, burning, welding, etc. I just spent 8-12 hours a day for three weeks redoing my garage... installed windows, rewired and hung new lights, insulation, ceiling, plywood on walls, flashed the roof, hung cabinets, and lots more. Waiting for paint to dry now. I didn't go to school to learn this stuff. I worked construction and mtc jobs for 30 years, but before that, it was my dad that started me off... not afraid to tackle any job, always do your own work if at all possible. That said, i work with steel mill mtc techs who change wheels on overhead cranes 60 feet in the air, but wont change their own brakes in their garage at home. Go figure.
This has nothing to do with how it affects one or 2 people. Yes it totally will affect everyone involved. Like it or not, none of us go at this life alone.
The labor shortage isn’t limited to just tradesmen. It’ll hurt everything from Farming, construction, Vehicles. A lot will be hurt as a result.
yfp. They are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Thought you could sneak that by. WRONG!!! 8^))))
Bentstick, sorry but they are ILLEGAL ALIENS. ;o)
When I grew up, even though I was never told so by my parents, the idea was to finish high school, graduate from college, serve in the military, then get a job in the private sector and start a family.
It worked out very well for me.
A while back it.became the goal for all kids to go to college. That removed trade schools
Now, many diplomas aren't worth squat, trade school is becoming a viable option again. I have a cousin who's sons both bypassed cillege. One is an electrician, one a policeman
Sam Dunham, I am an aspiring prepper. I use Berkey Water purifier for when local utility cease supplying potable water. No need for electrical power, just good old gravity and required filtering media for it to work and it last for years. Water from rivers, lakes, canals can be made good for human consumption.
There is no labor shortage. There is a shortage of skilled tradesmen and people who are willing to learn the trades.
A person can still learn a trade and get a higher education and degree. I paid for my college education by working carpentry jobs during the summers. That experience also gave me a leg up on my fellow architecture classmates. While they were learning what studs, joists, rafters, and headers were, I could already read blueprints and had built numerous homes using those components.
I always viewed my trades experience as a backup to my professional career. If things got tough professionally, I knew I could always find a trades job in a heartbeat.
Learning a trade can also put you on the fast track to being your own boss if you want that opportunity for independence and responsibility.