They do this so they know how many votes they need to, ahem, 'create.'
That's a first!!!
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UFB....if the 'pooters miscounted the first time, how could the second count be accurate?
Answer? if the d wins....
"flahduhh" is right
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Doesn’t Florida have the State law that only gives them 4 or 6 hours, after the polls close, to have their results in?
In what world is that ok?!?
Does this have anything to do with Kemp resigning?
Nonetheless all votes should be counted.
Care to 'splain that, Lucy?
The latest Project Veritas vid showing polling workers letting DACA folks voting in TX should be investigated.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-sides-with-floridas-rick-scott-cites-violation-of-state-constitution-by-election-officials?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20foxnews%2Fpolitics%20%28Internal%20-%20Politics%20-%20Text%29
Midterm Elections Published 52 mins ago Judge sides with Florida’s Rick Scott, cites ‘violation’ of state constitution by election officials
A state judge on Friday sided with Florida Republican Rick Scott in ordering that Republicans be granted “immediate” access to requested information about ballots in Broward County, amid explosive lawsuits against the county’s top election official.
In their lawsuit against Broward, Scott – the Republican gubernatorial incumbent narrowly leading in the state's race for a U.S. Senate seat -- and the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) allege that officials there are hiding critical information about the number of votes cast and counted.
In an emergency court hearing on Friday afternoon, state Judge Carol-Lisa Phillips ruled there has “been a violation of the Florida constitution,” as well as the state’s public records act, by not turning over requested records.
Phillips ordered Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes to allow for the “immediate inspection” and “photocopying” of the requested records no later than 7 p.m. Friday.
It comes as Scott has warned of possibly “rampant fraud,” two heavily Democratic counties continue to report new votes, and three top races in the state appear headed for recounts.
Scott's emergency complaint accused Snipes, the Broward County supervisor of elections, of being "unwilling to disclose records revealing how many electors voted, how many ballots have been canvassed, and how many ballots remain to be canvassed," and charges that the uncertainty "raises substantial concerns about the validity of the election process."
President Trump himself has gone after Snipes, telling reporters Friday, “She has had a horrible history … and all of a sudden they’re finding votes out of nowhere.”
And one conservative congressman in Florida has taken matters a step further, calling for Snipes’ removal.
“The outrageous ballot-counting issues in Broward County are un-American and unacceptable,” Rep. Matt Gaetz said in a statement. “I call on Governor Scott to immediately suspend Brenda Snipes, Supervisor of Elections for Broward County. She has failed to follow state transparency laws during this election, and has a long history of misconduct, including preemptively destroying ballots.
Scott, speaking with Fox News’ Dana Perino on “The Daily Briefing,” said Friday “there’s no transparency” to the vote count.
“You have to assume the worst here,” Scott said, vowing to press ahead in the courts. “We already won it once. We have to win it twice now in the courts.”
Referring to himself as the state’s senator-elect, he voiced disbelief at the sheer number of votes discovered in Broward County since election night: “How do you come up with 78,000 more votes in one county? … The Democrats are trying to steal this seat.”
Scott is running against longtime incumbent Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson. On Thursday, a Nelson spokesperson tersely dismissed Scott's effort: “The goal here is to see that all the votes in Florida are counted and counted accurately. Rick Scott’s action appears to be politically motivated and borne out of desperation.”
In a parallel suit against Palm Beach County, Scott and the NRSC charge that the election supervisor there illegally used her own judgment to determine voter intent when reviewing damaged or incorrectly filled-out absentee ballots, while refusing to allow impartial witnesses to monitor the process.
Scott's complaint against Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections Susan Bucher alleges first that officials there illegally refused to allow Republicans, or any witnesses, to monitor the county's handling of damaged absentee ballots.
"Even more alarmingly," Scott claims, Bucher "failed to allow the Palm Beach County Canvassing Board" to determine, as required by law, which damaged or improperly filled-out absentee ballots were valid and how the voters of those ballots had intended to vote. Instead, Scott and the NRSC argue, Bucher and her staff simply used their own judgment when determining voters' intent.
The suit against Bucher demands an injunction requiring Bucher to make and compare duplicate copies of all damaged absentee ballots in the presence of Scott's representatives, and to allow the Palm Beach County Canvassing Board to determine voters' intent when counting those ballots.
Democrats are being represented in Florida by lawyer Marc Elias – known for his role in the Trump dossier controversy – who also announced a lawsuit Friday on behalf of Nelson over vote-by-mail ballots. Trump took aim at Elias in a tweet Friday.
“As soon as Democrats sent their best Election stealing lawyer, Marc Elias, to Broward County they miraculously started finding Democrat votes. Don’t worry, Florida - I am sending much better lawyers to expose the FRAUD!” Trump said.
Fox News’ Gregg Re contributed to this report.
If Florida’s election system is screwed up who’s fault is it?
It ain't that complicated people...
That is how it should be. In the Coast Guard we have this classified material handling concept called TPI - Two Person Integrity. Two folks are involved in handling/maintaining certain classified material to protect it from disclosure, loss and only one person having control of it. IMO vote ballots/machines should be handled the same way. That, along with strict adherence to the timelines.
Yeah, according to paulz, "Voter fraud is a myth". Kinda makes you wonder what your vote is worth when they can magically pull just enough lost votes out their backsides to turn a loss into a win.
Pretty sad.
Quit entertaining these idiots and arrest them for election fraud.
Matt
So, is it fair to say that the law is dictating the recounts, and not the Dems trying to "Steal Florida"?
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How can any person with a functional cerebellum even propose that ILLEGALs should be able to actually have ILLEGAL ballots cast counted. Perfect demonstration of the Democrat Party's support for contempt of the law.
And the clueless wonder why the putzeidans want more illegals...the only way the Democrats can win is by cheating.
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Even more shocking, John Loudon witnessed clerks coming in and out of a back door where there were trucks at an unsecured rear dock. When Mr. Loudon called out the infraction to the SOE, she threatened to throw him and other Republicans out of the facility.""
Media now being denied access to cover the “discovery” of provisional ballots from a returned rental car linked to Broward County government. Broward Sheriff Scott Israel controlling what media can / cannot get in. This is unreal.@LauraLoomer & I not allowed in. #FloridaRecount pic.twitter.com/8Gy1wP4RSc
— Jacob Engels (@JacobEngels) November 12, 2018
The Dems tend to gain more votes than the Reps do, but that's only because ballots which are in question tend to be because some people are too stupid to know how to fill out a ballot correctly. Given the Dems have more of these stupid voters, they tend to gain a few hundred votes.
The real vote fraud occurs before the recount starts, not afterwards.
Great question.
Sadly, we already know the answer. :(
The Democrats used to purchase votes with cigarettes and booze. Realizing how easy that was, they upped their game by "making it easier" to vote with provisional ballots, no ID/same day voting, using the media about "voter suppression" because an election cycle starts at the end of an election and their supporters are too dumb to know when and where to vote. And with all of this easing of voting, the amount of lost, suddenly found with no chain of evidence, support for ILLEGALs voting in areas of high Democrat population. Funny, the Republicans have no problems voting. Perhaps the Democrat voters (example Putzie) are just too damned dumb to have the responsibility of participating in our republic.
Of course you don't want all the votes counted. There are simply more democrat voters.
And probably made that decision while eating Cheetos and watching Wheel of Fortune reruns.
What she said was that no evidence had been provided to her.
That's not at all the same thing.
Here in NV, early voting commences ten days before election day, which is about right.
Yet in other states it starts more than a month before election day, which is preposterous!
Moreover, we need tech systems which link to each other so that NO ONE can vote early, yet then again vote by mail, vote in person, or anything else!
Every legal American citizen who votes gets ONE vote, and NO MORE!
Any attempt to the contrary needs to call for prosecution and SERIOUS penalties!
Period!
From link:
" Enough is enough. Election after election boxes of Democrat ballots show up in counties run by Democrat election supervisors to benefit Democrat candidates who, once they steal their opponent’s election night victory, will join the chorus warning of Russian interference in our elections. Last time I checked, there were no Russian election officials in Palm Beach or Broward counties in Florida.
Democrats have long pushed for voting ease at the expense of voting integrity, pushing measures from voting by mail, to Motor Voter laws, to same-day registration while opposing voter ID laws which requires people to show up on election day with proof they are who they say they are. They claim Voter ID laws are designed to disenfranchise voters. So does the sudden appearance of mystery ballots days, even weeks, after elections without a documented chain of custody or certainty that other ballots weren’t destroyed or that the ballots found were cast by real, live American citizens..."
ID, background check (with a fee), no marijuana use, red flag laws,...
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You’ve already caved on Arizona, Mitch. How about taking a page from the Democrats’ playbook? You don’t have to go full Daley Machine. Democrats steal elections they actually lost. Republicans just want you to hang on to the seats they won.
They say they have older machines which can only tally one race at a time. Yesterday afternoon, those machines overheated so now they have to start over.
At this moment, Scott is + 12,505.
DeSantis is +32,638
The good news is that Nelson has lost more votes than Scott, and Gillum has lost more votes than DeSantis.
In the past hour, Scott has increased his lead by 13 votes and DeSantis has increased his lead by 14 votes.
"Far-Left Politico, CNN Say Democrat Bill Nelson Can’t Win FL Recount
15 Nov 2018
Politico and CNN have done the math and report that incumbent U.S. Senator Bill Nelson cannot win the Florida recount — barring a miracle.
To have both of these far-left outlets, two enthusiastic cheerleaders for Democrats, finally report this painfully obvious truth, is a major blow to Nelson’s ongoing litigation and public relations efforts.
Currently, Republican Governor Rick Scott holds a solid 12,000 (give or take) vote lead over Nelson, and anyone who knows anything about recounts know that recounts do not flip the winner unless the difference is much closer to 1,000."
I've been following the latest reports all day and with just :15 left before the deadline, nothing's really changed.
All four candidates have lost some votes, but the Dems lost more than did the Reps.
Net result is that both Scott and DeSantis have increased their leads by small amounts
Not once during the day did the vote count for any of the four candidates move more than a couple of votes when a new county reported.
Given that, there's no way Palm Beach county can report a multi-thousand vote change.
Want to bet, haven't you learned the dums will try anything.
In the Senate race, it's far closer than .25%.
This is NOT an attempt at voter fraud.
It's simply a matter of following the LAW!
You didn't read the entire judgement, did you?
In the end, Nelson LOST 90% of his case and Walker's decision will in no way affect the outcome.
Nelson loses.
Period!
It's OVER!
Welcome to the Senate, Senator Scott!
Most of those late, 'found' ballots were vote-by-mail ballots, absentee ballots and provisional ballots.
Are you saying vote-by-mail ballots, absentee ballots and provisional ballots should not be counted?
Please quit posting ridiculous crap.
Without question there are ballots found in the trunk of a car, ad nauseum.
But to blanketly claim any ballots which are counted after election night, which you are doing, somehow makes those ballots illegitimate, only destroys any claim you might later make to point out actual voter fraud.
It's known as 'Crying WOLF!"
Via BPR:
In response to increasingly credible accusations of election fraud in Florida, the state’s Democrat Party has reportedly lawyered up, according to a report published Friday. […]
The party specifically sent modified “cure affidavit” forms showing a deadline of Nov. 8, three days beyond the state’s actual absentee ballot deadline.
An unnamed Democrat official in Palm Beach County admitted to the Daily News that the intention had been to have voters amend their absentee ballots, even after the deadline, with the hope that a judge would ultimately rule in favor of allowing such ballots to be included in a future recount.[…]
Now fast forward to Friday, when the FDP responded to the Daily News’ report by issuing a statement saying that it’d basically lawyered up.
“Upon receiving notice of the allegations that the form was incorrect, FDP took immediate steps, including hiring an independent investigator to review the issues at hand,” attorney Mark Herron said. “As soon as we know the results of the investigation we will advise you.”
The so-called “investigator” is tasked with identifying who specifically within the party modified the inaccurate form sent to voters. The party claims the perpetrator was not someone in a position of leadership but rather a young, out-of-control whippersnapper.
“It was mid-level and it was a bunch of go-getters and young people who wanted to make a difference and didn’t realize this is a major political party and this is not how you get things done,” FDP vice chair Alan Clendenin said in an interview.
This was about Floriduh. Then, just as PutZ always does, when faced with something you can't deal with, you move the goal posts.
It's called an 'undervote.' It happens to a greater or lesser degree in elections all over the country every election and that's the way it's been for a very long time.
In this case, the Congressional districts in the county were critical to the Dems winning the House, so people on the left and the right got motivated.
Yet in the Governor's race, that Gavin Newsome would win handily was never in question, so people didn't vote in that race.
I 'undervote' on my ballot almost every time, esp. in local races where I don't know diddly about the various candidates for the many non-partisan elections. So I leave my ballot blank for those offices.
Not everything is a fraud or a conspiracy, Jeff.
This unsubstantiated conspiracy crap gets so old.
Now this is where you come in and call me a bowlib, commie, sheep something something...it’s so old and exhausting.
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Congrats on the deer this year JTV. You worked hard for that buck which makes it a trophy in anyone’s book. Sincerely congrats.
I’m out.
Spoken like a true leftist.
The source is court records - which the soros foundation considers to be bogus.
According to your link, the Koch brothers are right-wing nut jobs, but soros is a benevolent philanthropist who will save the world.
You consider that an unbiased source compared to a compilation of court records?
4 days after voting has closed, some voting officials don’t know how many people voted, how they voted, who they voted for, or what the accurate results are.
The US election system is broken on purpose.”
IMHO it is so your rulers can manipulate your emotions and pretend to do stuff to keep you on their team. Carry On….
