elkmtngear's Link
No amount of "gun control" is going to remedy that situation. You can't "regulate" it away. See the link for the story.
Grey Ghost's Link
Another example of misinformation that spreads like the flu on the inter-webs.
The accurate story is 4 or 5 of the 27 shooters definitively had intact families, based on online information that is available. Apparently, there in no information available for several of the shooters.
That said, the pattern is worth noting and contemplating, but it's not as definitive as the OP states.
Matt
It has been this way for thousands of years. It is not a mistake...
I agree though, common sense connects proper upbringing by a nuclear family and a healthy adulthood.
I did see the ;-).
The Rock
I did see the ;-).
The Rock
ALL of that belongs to the DEMs, LBJ and the (not-so) Great Society which incentivized all of this.
Well done, Dems!
Why did you make this thread about race?
Were the 27 deadliest mass shooters in our country predominately black men?
Matt
Oh, pleeze!
The destruction of values and responsibility is all about POLICY.
That those policies destroyed black families and resulted in horrific increases in crime and fatherless young men in the black community is simply yet another 'untintended consequence' of a liberal 'feel good' policy.
Not that the liberals give a damn, of course.
Grey Ghost's Link
To be fair now post "shootings" in America in that same time frame by shooters race and ethnicity. Maybe they don't record or publish these numbers which would be considered racist.
The Rock
When you cherry-pick the bar graphs...yeah, you can easily defend against what you consider "racism".
So, if political policy is the reason for black crime, which is admittedly disproportionately high, then what is the reason the numbers of white mass shooters is disproportionately high?
Matt
Same reason Einstein and Jack the Ripper were white and not female or black. Ever notice there are no female or Black equivalents? When you look at how intelligence is distributed in humans white males operate on a wider band from high to low so you end up with more Einstein’s and also more Jack the rippers. Simple distribution of traits.
It’s not disproportionately high. Your chart shows white commiting 59% of the mass shootings and they make up about 70% of the population. Blacks committed 17% of the mass shootings and make up about 12% of the population.
If anything, blacks are the ones represented disproportionately.
Discussions always morph into something else. Always.
These spineless characters don’t pick places where others are likely to shoot back for a reason. Kinda hard to get fame and recognition if John boy down the roads pops you in the head quickly. Yet, KNOWN unarmed people in gatherings, in places firearms are either legally off limits or considered taboo, are like ducks on a pond. Ripe for the massacre.
Hey Matt, you got anymore nonsense to add? Been kind of quite since your theory holds no real evidence of your claims. Let’s hear some more. You sure sounded like you wanted to debate it earlier.
Makes you wonder, if some of them had grown up with a Father in the House throughout childhood, would they have ended up on Psych Meds?
Without it, we'd all be speaking German, Japanese, or Russian!
WTF???
Did you intentionally ignore non-mass shootings in your statistics post, or did you simply not think of it?
Have you never heard of Chicago, Baltimore, Memphis, New Orleans and Los Angeles?
I've maintained for years that psych meds are far more dangerous than most "recreational" drugs, based on personal experience. Rhody's stats seem to support that. Could it be that's a bigger cause for mass shootings than fatherlessness? I know many people who were raised without a father who turned out fine. I can't say that for people I've know on psych meds.
Matt
thedude's Link
Which, it seems, you are only doing so as to avoid dealing with the real problem.
But since you brought it up, black crime hasn't changed in our lifetimes. Prisons have been choked full of black criminals for decades. Despite every opportunity to change that trend, crime has remained ingrained in our black society. No political policy has changed that, and most have served to make it worse. It's a cultural problem that only blacks can change, not a bunch of conservative white politicians, IMO.
Matt
You do realize that you said "crime is a cultural problem" regarding the black community.
I beg to differ with you on that wayward point. I don't believe that crime is a habit, a tradition or a belief in the black or any other community. I believe that crime is the direct result of present day economic factors. As economic factors rise in communities crime recedes. Crime is color blind and injecting "white" into that equation is foolish and divisive to put it mildly and further, to place the social condition of the black people at the feet of conservatives is ludicrous. Democrats have instigated and fashioned a falsehood in the black communities to believe that liberals are their saviors when in truth they are the shackles that Lincoln could never remove.
The Rock
Matt
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Matt
The Rock
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Matt
“I figure it is all tied in with the break down of the American Family. Those two things being a part of this effect.”
Those 2 things are the same thing.
