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Battle causalities really hit GW hard as he was he felt responsible. I knew he regularly still visits our wounded in the hospital and greats returning troops at the Dallas airport. Didn't know he painted the portraits of our fallen heroes. Others may forget but he never will. Are the paintings given to the Families? I bet they are. GW will never have my respect for being a good president, but he sure as hell has it for the way he threats those who have served this country.
Seriously, on Christmas Eve?
He resigned, effective February 28th. The news reported Trump was upset with the press stories, and moved his departure date up. That is being fired.
Merry Christmas.
Mattis was a good commander by all accounts I have read, and likely is a student of foreign policy, not just military operations and efficiency. He may prove to be right on this matter. Or not. He was leaving soon anyway...... always said so before accepting the position, all agreed upon. He helped put the military back on track instead of a cheap way to get gender reassignment...... of that it seems he did a great job, turning the military back into the machine it was intended.
In many ways it was a brilliant move on his part. His legacy and reputation remain mostly intact. If he was right he can come back and give em an I told you so and add to his legacy. If wrong...... nobody will remember he walked away. Because if he was wrong..... there will be no newsworthy event that will prove it, by definition no or few big/bad events would be success. And the media will never print news that everything went smoothly and the war to hunt down ISIS continues, that Trump had it right...... a win-win. Legacy and reputation fully intact. Leftists and media will see to that.
Posted on a different thread..... but fits here well....
Do not call yourself a fan of our veterans if you continue to support Capt Bone Spurs while he trashes Mad Dog Mattis. Trump could t spit shine Mattis’ boots let alone compare to him.
And not a peep from the hard chargers on CF? Why because you’re torn between supporting your hero vs standing up for an ACTUAL hero? Pathetic
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Hang your head in shame if you support trumps words against Mattis.
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hahahaha General Bone Spurs!
Some of you need to try it at work some time, see how it all shakes out for ya. Lets start with PutZ..... let us know how it works out.......... dum bass
Um that’s called advising and deferring to the experts.
Oh is this where you try to convince us that trump knows more about foreign affairs and defense of our nation MORE than Mattis.
Please do! I could use a good laugh.
Properly functioning boards are supposed to be populated with diverse opinions. If he is pro gun control, show proof. Being on a board does not necessarily prove he is of the same mindset.
He is apparently veering away from listening to the smart people now.
Mattis knows mission command Trump obviously doesn't.
This seems like a classic 0bama move...
Good grief. When is the last time you folks fired someone or took their resignation?
Mattis would have been summarily canned if this were done to a superior officer when he was a member of the military. Not toddled along until he felt like walking away. Tell me he wouldn't..... what would have been his treatment by the military?
I agree with you. Trump is the top guy, he must be listened to, right or wrong.
I separate with those suffering from CDS who now are willing to drag him through the mud though they once sang his praises.
Trump did what he had to, that doesn't mean Mattis is a flaming liberal. I would take him over Trump in my foxhole if the proverbial crap hit the fan. And I bet any sane person would as well.
Pelosi really got to Trump cause he is out to please her like he did Fienstein....
Sit by your mom's basement phone. Trump's new Chief of Staff will be calling you any minute to interview as Defense Secretary. You have about as much experience googling as will anyone who is willing to take the position now.
So tell us Commander Maverick, how many more billions and worse, American lives is Trump supposed to keep giving for the shithole Afghanistan?
You really do have CDS.
I guess we will have to see if it is a great strategy. I wonder what the Kurds think? Maybe they received some of the Kool-Aid by now?
Trump's ability to solve problems seems phenomenal. Wonder why he never applied it to his marriages?
Scratch that last question, pass the Kool-Aid please.
Here's my confusion, if you will. You are trying to sell us that a man who has displayed a lifetime of integrity, has the overwhelming support, 89%, of the officers he commanded, would flush that all down the drain for some consultant fees for his buddies?
Ok, if I accept that, then the leap to believing Trump has money/business connections that are affecting his decisions is just a little more credible than you trumpettes are willing to concede.
FTR, I don't think either of those have happened. I believe this is very disgraceful running a highly respected individual through the mud. It is what I have come to expect from Trump.
Yes, Mattis was out of line for commenting. But the president has to be the bigger man/leader. This is what Romney was referring to about his failure to act presidential.
Still too early to tell, and I am not making predictions, but look at Sieb's WSJ editorial today. My words here, but Trump fatigue is a factor that is going to play in the next election.
Rocky was a movie that only mimicked life;)
Scentman, I am not going to apologize for my style. I always assume I am the least tough and dumbest guy in any situation. That doesn't stop me from expressing my views, nor would I want you to.
I do have a question though. When Obama was president, I remember all of the critism on the CF about his lack of military experience, with Trump he seems to get a free pass because???? Bone spurs????
As I did my normal walk this morning, I reflected on HH's comments regarding the great strategy. Slade quotes Trump laying blame on Mattis for Afghanistan. Now, the latest is this is a great strategy for Syria. Which is it? HH, more plausible to me is Trump loyalists had enough time to put a great spin on what also has leaked out of the WH, Trump's impulsive decision making style.
That's what I believe at this point. Trump made another impulsive decision, Mattis's patience had already grown thin, and what we see is what played out.
I guess we might have to wait for a presidential library to know the full truth. They should be breaking ground for it in Moscow in a little over two years by my reckoning;)
Sometimes it takes a toxic leader and sometimes you lose talent because of them.....
Common problem when an organization has a strong leader on outside appearances.
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Facts matter. History matters. Obama himself fired Mattis, well, not personally of course, not even a phone call. He had a messenger tell him he was fired.... over Iran it seems, fairly similar reasons. Where was all that righteous indignation by you folks then? Surely wasn't a different Mattis then. But the outrage has obviously been saved for a different President.
Good grief..... PutZ I don't think I have EVER seen a bigger hypocrite. Surely not one who was as knowingly and blatantly so. You care nothing for facts, much less their equal treatment. All you have to live for is your hate....
That is hilarious asking Paul if he inspected Trump's feet.
How about you "inspect" some of that whacko conspiracy stuff before you post it. LOL!
We only know that the draft record images online show that he was deferred for college, played sports those years and then for the last deferment then he suddenly had bone spurs.
Funny we can find Trump's stuff but not 0bamas.....
