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TGbow 28-Dec-18
Rocky 28-Dec-18
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From: TGbow
28-Dec-18
Yep, both parties have been part of it

From: Rocky
28-Dec-18
Two of the largest and most powerful nations in the world, Russia and China are proving not to be the threat that everyone believes they are to America. America herself and the people whose beliefs have turned against capitalism to socialism is the greatest danger to its very existence which is coming to its end sooner than anyone could have ever believed. We may laugh with our trash bags filled with half eaten foodstuffs and recreational excesses, but we have been caught napping. People turn away quickly and quietly revolt just as we see this every day, compounded by a corrupt government. Russia and China are shining examples of homeland security and their unparalleled belief in nationalism for the future good of their own country. They have watched America eat itself alive and have learned well the blueprint to world domination from the USA, and, also, the roadmap to employ and preserve it. The greatest vehicle of all time in the history of man, that being the USA, has a rod knock and is leaking oil quicker than can be put back in, without a mechanic in sight who has the willpower, knowledge and the courage to tackle the job to fix it. What a sad story will be told about the incredibly gifted twin brothers who learned nothing from the rise to the pinnacle of success: America and Rome.

The Rock

From: NvaGvUp
28-Dec-18
I'm surprised Paul Zeidan hasn't weighed in on this yet to cheer it on.

Because what Merkel is calling for here is to end democracy and let the world be governed by an oligarchic dictatorship of self-annointed 'really smart people' who know better about what's best for the people than the people themselves do.

Eff U, Angela!

Over my dead body!

From: gflight
28-Dec-18
Something I like about Trump, showed up late and rejected globalism in his UN speech....

From: gflight
28-Dec-18
Yep, that and judges are pretty much it though......

From: Annony Mouse
28-Dec-18
Putzie is one of those self-anointed "really smart people" who regularly shows he knows best for what everyone else should do or believe...

From: TGbow
28-Dec-18
Rocky, I agree. The greatest threat to America is from within...we're seeing the effects of that.

From: NvaGvUp
28-Dec-18
Mouse,

And if you ever disagree with anything Paul Zeidan ever posts, that automatically makes you a racist, a hater, a misogynist, a White Supremacist and all the rest.

From: Annony Mouse
28-Dec-18

Annony Mouse's Link
Wonder what Obama and the proREgressives have on John Roberts?

The Federal Courts Have Shut Down Our ENTIRE Government

Amid the imbroglio over a partial furloughing of nonessential workers in a handful of federal departments, the political class has ignored that the government has already been shut down – in full and permanently. Individual district judges now control our national sovereignty, border policy, and every other political question. And now Chief Justice John Roberts has essentially barred the doors of the Supreme Court shut to any judicial redress of this judicial crisis.

Just as reporters were going offline last Friday for the Christmas holiday, the Supreme Court announced that it had denied the government’s request to overturn a universal injunction on Trump’s commonsense asylum policy directing the flow of “asylum requests” to our points of entry. Northern California District Judge Jon Tigar and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals violated all rules of standing, 200 years of precedent, and John Roberts’ own recent opinion on presidential power to regulate or exclude entry into the country, yet Roberts refused to join the four conservatives in summarily staying the injunction.

In once again allowing the lower courts to reign freely, Roberts is not only perpetuating the shutdown of our border but the shutdown of the Supreme Court itself. What is the purpose of the Supreme Court if it only encroaches on the powers of the other branches but won’t police its own inferior courts when they violate all legal norms? Let’s review the unprecedented insanity of this case:

1) Four left-wing advocacy groups were given standing to sue on behalf of caravans that are literally not even in our country simply because they asserted that their institutions must expend more resources educating their clients on the new policy. It would be equivalent to Conservative Review obtaining standing because we have to expend more resources explaining the new policies we don’t like to our readers. This is perhaps the most absurd violation of Article III standing in recent memory, yet Roberts allows it to continue. Putting immigration aside, the precedent this will set on the parameters of standing will ensure that almost any political group can sue any abstract policy without any valid personal injury.

2) This was the first time a court blatantly limited the president’s power to exclude aliens, even after Roberts himself said in Trump v. Hawaii that the power was very broad.

3) The court, for the first time, is signaling that asylum is somehow a mandatory policy.

4) The court, for the first time, is interfering with sensitive ongoing diplomatic negotiations with the government of Mexico.

5) This was yet another illegal nationwide injunction that has already caused immeasurable damage to our entire sovereignty and security. To allow this injunction to stand means Roberts agrees with universal injunctions, agrees with the merits of the case, or has no problem allowing such national security harm even when he knows the ruling is wrong.

If you put all the recent court decisions on immigration together, it’s now clear why we have an invasion. One district judge said that children must be released. Then another one said parents must be released with the children. Then a district judge in D.C. said the definition of asylum must be expanded to Obama’s policy, beyond an individual fear of persecution. Now a district judge is being allowed to sustain a ruling that Trump can’t even request that they come to the points of entry.

Left-wing legal groups, some of whom are tied to those organizing the caravans, have thought of a way to challenge every single denial of entry and deportation. Even when they lose on one, they come back for more. All it takes is one district judge in one bad circuit to automatically win the first two steps of litigation for them, permanently alter national border policy by applying it nationwide, and encourage a massive rush at our border. Now that Roberts has signaled to the lower courts that he will not police them, they will be even more emboldened to come up with innovative ways to shut down border enforcement.

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From: Huntcell
28-Dec-18

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Ya ya Herr Comrade!
Huntcell 's embedded Photo
Ya ya Herr Comrade!
Never cared for that Merkel her soviet roots should of disqualified her from any office.

“In 1968, Merkel joined the Free German Youth (FDJ), the official communist youth movement sponsored by the ruling Marxist–Leninist Socialist Unity Party of Germany.[25][26][27]” According to her former colleagues, she openly propagated Marxism as the secretary for "Agitation and Propaganda".[31] However, Merkel has denied this claim and [32] She stated "I can only rely on my memory, if something turns out to be different, I can live with that."[31]

Notable quote “Islam is part of Germany”

She can’t leave soon enough. Her mentor Vlad is proud of her.

She Has done quite well as public servant. Net worth: $11.5 million (celebritynetworth.com) Funny she didn’t take her current husbands surname must not like the sound of Angela Sauer. Spouse: Joachim Sauer (m. 1998-present), Ulrich Merkel (m. 1977-1982)

From: TGbow
28-Dec-18
I wouldn't hold her Soviet roots against her, we all came from somewhere...its what a person stands for that matters.

I have German roots...would that be a problem? LOL But, I also have Jewish, French, native American and Irish blood. Almost got it all covered..lol

28-Dec-18
Maybe a working definition of globalism is necessary here. No nation should give up its sovereignty. But that doesn’t mean we aim to discard or discriminate against other cultures. It’s never been the American way to do so.

But I also Value the global economy. There is no denying g that America could t survive without a global market to either sell or buy from.

So let’s get a definition of what you think globalism is.

From: TGbow
28-Dec-18
Globalism to me would be letting the thugs in the UN dictate our laws, ect. I agree with fair trade but not when we are on the losing end. We should be able to produce anything we need as a nation and not dependent on other countries to survive

From: NvaGvUp
28-Dec-18
YFP,

WTF????

Your very words prove to all that you are a frickin' IDIOT!

28-Dec-18
Kyle, do everyone a favor and shhhhhh. Actual adults are attempting to discuss something and you have literally nothing to offer but juvenile insults. So can it.

Clay I’m with you. I don’t know of one example where UN law was forced upon the US however. If you can, please let me know.

And I agree that we should produce all the things we need, except at the moment, it’s more cost effective to get it overseas (either China or the Mideast in some cases)

Unfortunately, we’ll always have some dependence on the rest of the world.

And thanks for your definition except I don’t see any of that as being detrimental to the US sovereignty.

Kyle after you’ve taken your meds, you may rejoin the conversation. Just behave yourself man! You’re a professional. Act like one.

From: TGbow
28-Dec-18
Good foreign policie involves negotiations as long as we don't give up our freedoms. Truth is both major parties have done a poor job abroad and I'm speaking in general. I think JFK understood this. Carry the biggest stick but dont take no crap off nobody. At the same time we should negotiate first, and declare war as a last resort.

From: NvaGvUp
28-Dec-18
YFP,

You are an idiot of the 1st degree,

So go ''f " yourself

28-Dec-18
increase the dosage Kyle, you're getting there!

From: NvaGvUp
28-Dec-18
F off, uninformed fool!

28-Dec-18
I couldnt agree more with your sentiments Clay. Negotiations before war, yes. Carry a big stick but speak softly, yes (although that was Teddy Roosevelt) So we are in agreement man! I'm still not sure what part of globalism offends you to the point where you want the US to completely isolate itself. WHich of course, is virtually impossible, as much as trump is trying, but isolation is a recipe for disaster. We have allies that assist us with intelligence, that allow us to use their nations as launching points. We owe them as much as they owe us. its a symbiotic relationship that we cannot afford to trash without some negotiation. What trump does first and foremost is trash the relationship and THEN do the negotiation. Not always the best policy.

But thanks for the civil dialogue Clay, its appreciated. Kyle, take note.

From: NvaGvUp
28-Dec-18
YFP,

Why the incessant need to prove to all here you are indeed a clueless idiot?

28-Dec-18
Kyle, do you always engage clueless idiots? Asking them inane questions and such?

I ask because when I walk around NYC and see a homeless person screaming gibberish, I don't usually engage them. Why would I? they are most likely without logic and often disturbed. I'm smart enough to know that asking them a simple question is fruitless.

But not you! , you choose to engage me. even though countless people here have told you to ignore me. So, Either you are a glutton for punishment (having to endure my idiocy!, egads!!) Or you aren't very smart yourself. So which is it?

Its a valid question that you can't or won't answer because it paints you in a negative light no matter which way you go. Doesn't feel good does it? Instead you'll do as Jeffrey does and hurl your poo, And by poo, I mean juvenile insults.

But as my grandmother said, 'no sense in getting mad at a pig for being stinky, its what pigs do' Oink away Kyle, Oink away.

From: NvaGvUp
28-Dec-18
YFP,

Were you born insanely stupid, or did you become insanely stupid by design?

From: TGbow
28-Dec-18
I dont want us to be a country that isolates itself. I just believe we should be able to be self sufficient if need be. Global trade is good but I dont like to see companies leave the US. Also, I am not a fan of ole Teddy or Woodrow for that matter. I meant JFK wanted to avoid a war if possible. LBJ was another story. JFK also wanted do away with the Federal reserve which I would also be in favor of.

From: TD
28-Dec-18
PutZ you lost any and all credibility here LONG ago. To put it kindly.

From: Rocky
28-Dec-18
You do not question, anger or demean the man that is passing out the bread to the starved.

America has bared witness to all these from their "supposed allies" let alone their enemies. America continues to give and gets chastised at return from every quarter from world leaders. America should not be a member of a global society. America should be its CEO who gives and takes on its own will to those who appreciate and will stand by our side come hell or high water no matter the allegations. The world itself be damned if that is the route they choose and can locate alms elsewhere. What a price they would pay and we should watch they them crawl without pity.

BTW..Teddy said: "speak softly but carry a big stick"....much different then your version.

The Rock

From: Tonybear61
28-Dec-18
"Well we looked down the River and we seen the British com'n, must'a been a hundred of them beating on their drums. They stepped so high and made their bugles ring We just stood behind our cotton bales and didn't say a thing.

Old Hickory said we could take'm by surprise If we didn't fire our muskets til we looked em in the eyes We held our fire til we seen their faces well Then opened up with squirrel guns and really gave them well.

WE FIRED OUR GUNS AND THE BRITISH KEPT A COM'N WASNT NIGH AS MANY AS THERE WAS A WHILE AGO WE FIRED ONCE MORE AND THEY BEGAN A RUNNING DOWN THE MISSISSIPPI TO THE GULF OF MEXICO!!"

Globalism didn't work last time, won't work this time either ...

This song should be mandatory for all school aged kids. Quick lesson on the rebellion, Nationalism and FUN too!!

Thank God for Johnny Horton

From: Salagi
28-Dec-18
Tony - Jimmy Driftwood wrote that song to help teach history to his students in Arkansas.

From: Tonybear61
28-Dec-18
Correct-School principal in Arkansas as I recall, his version didn't go over as well as Horton's at least when I was a kid. Sung to tune of January 8th (1812 war date??)

The British lost over 2,000 men, while the Americans under command of future president Andrew Jackson-Old Hickory lost only 71.

From: Woods Walker
28-Dec-18
"Old Hickory said we could take'm by surprise If we didn't fire our muskets til we looked em in the eyes We held our fire til we seen their faces well Then opened up with squirrel guns and really gave them well."

I loved this song as a kid (still do), but the intensity of this line didn't hit home with me until I was older and had been shooting/hunting for some years. It gives me chills. The men with those "squirrel guns" were NOT soldiers with smoothbore muskets where the main purpose of shooting them was to fill the air with lead balls hoping to eventually hit the enemy. Many times they didn't even aim, and even if the did these were not weapons that were all that accurate.

The men with the squirrel guns, many of whom had rifled barrels, were people who depended on their ability to HIT what they were shooting at in order to survive. The thought of them waiting until the could see their eyes meant that NOT hitting what they were shooting at was the exception and not the norm. The bloodbath had to be incredible, as the 2000/71 ratio indicates.

From: HDE
29-Dec-18
Can the world live in "harmony" and act as one people? I believe we can, it is possible. However, the ones pushing for it today can not be the ones to implement it and be in charge of it all. They are too selfish and conceited to lead a "one world order".

So, until the U.N. steps off this concept or agenda - ain't gonna happen...

From: Woods Walker
29-Dec-18
"Can the world live in "harmony" and act as one people?"

Short answer.......nope. If we did, it would be the first time in 4 billion+ years. I mean, it's a good goal to have, but t'aint happenin.

From: Rocky
29-Dec-18
"Can the world live in "harmony" and act as one people?"

Yes.......American people. Don't like it. Give it your best shot. We run the show, we're the boss, we're the big cheese and until then....... end of story.

The Rock

The Rock

From: Annony Mouse
29-Dec-18

Annony Mouse's embedded Photo
Annony Mouse's embedded Photo
Kevin...Putzie only deserves a picture ;o)

From: Annony Mouse
29-Dec-18

From: Tonybear61
30-Dec-18
Aim Small Miss Small( advice given to me by my uncle over 50 years ago).

"If we were all on the same side of the boat, it would capsize"-Confucious.

From: Rocky
30-Dec-18
Confucius failed to account for the size of the boat and who built it. ;-)

The Rock

From: memengako
30-Dec-18
The global elites are actively plotting to overthrow the U.S. dollar as the reserve currency. When that happens, printing trillions of dollars are worthless. We can't participate in the global economy unless we use the globalist reserve currency. The Chinese are pushing for it and buying Iranian and Venezuelan oil with some other kind of financial instrument. Further more, the national debt will be coming due. All those treasure bonds/warrant will push the U.S. to war since we can't pay unless we can "buy" the globalist reserve currency but will they accept the U.S. dollar. FAT CHANCE. Hyper-inflation will be the norm since we can't participate in the global market. We have to produce our own for local consumption. At least, we won't starve if we can afford it. Will the farmers accept our dollar. The future is looking dim for our children and grandchildren. A thousand point of light sez the libturds and rinos pushing the NWO.

30-Dec-18
Jeff, LMAO. Thanks.

Will it end this year or next?

From: Fivers
30-Dec-18
Who would you cheer for in the Olympics?

From: HDE
30-Dec-18
WW - I'll argue your counter perspective. One day perhaps, but I doubt you and I will ever see it.

From: Woods Walker
30-Dec-18
Now THAT we agree on!

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