2). Manned security, drones for remote areas. Increase personnel at amnesty sites, give the Central American nations incentives to keep their refugees. Financial or otherwise.
There are many things that can be done.
But don’t tell America that Mexico is buying us a wall and then charge the taxpayer and then hold the government hostage because the president isn’t a good enough negotiator to get that wall paid for by Mexico.
Hell, he’s a billionaire. He’s also certain that Mexico will pay. So let trump front the money and he can go after Mexico to pay him back!
We always knew he used undocumented workers. Now here’s definitive proof.
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2). He spouts off about illegals taking jobs, um. He hires them!
So in summary, the president wants one standard for others and totally different ones for himself.
No bueno amigo
Its a pretty safe bet Trump's businesses personally create more jobs and he employs more people than all the other DC politicians combined x10. You're way out of your league when you try to bash Trump.
I bet you didn't know how many jobs are created by drug cartels then? you must be in full support of that by your logic.
Oh hell it isn't logic, you're just drunk on trump kool aid. You should look up the symptoms of those who join cults. You'll see some remarkable commonalities.
but at least admit to us that you don't care what trump does, legal, not legal. And that you'll support him no matter what. I guess he was right, he could shoot someone on 5th ave and still have his supporters. Like I said, a cult.
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Would you go along if he just said sorry, I thought Mexico would pay but it's still a darn good thing that we do it... would you? Seriously, would that make you happy and allow you to get over his overly enthusiastic words. His misplaced optimism... He was wrong if he thought Mexico would pay up front ... there, all better? Now do you want a Wall or not? it's simple. stop obsessing over the personality.
To obsess over his flaws instead of the merit of his ideas is to let small stuff stop the big. Maybe that's the reason it's done. I don't know. But I remember teenagers making the same argument. They would lie about the big stuff to the parent ( those folks that carry the big load of responsibility) and point to small lies that the parent made to say its all the same. It's not.
My thought process is that there needs to be a reasoned plan for those folks already here contributing or born here. That plan is not: You are out. A way can be reasonably determined if people are willing to do it - unlikely in today's climate, but perhaps if a big wall is built folks will ok it.
Then again, I also want better environmental regs. Businesses are doing great, there is ton's of capitol out there waiting to be spent and profits are big, so suck it up and accept some protections for the environment. My kids and their kids and your kids deserve an environment where hunting and fishing and hiking etc can be enjoyed. My parents generation worked to make huge changes that cleaned much of the toxic goo from our environment, going backwards is NOT an option.
If we get a pretty new wall, we get a clean place to live too.
I also want to see a legit - and not PORKED - infrastructure improvement plan. We have kids drinking literally poisonous water - families drinking it, likely creating a long term significant cost on our health care system - and we like the idea of saying "the EPA didnt catch it - their fault" or "Flint (or any of the many other cities and communities with junk water systems) made a stupid choice - their fault"... But in reality we have a massive national issue that just gets glossed over.
Take 5B for the wall, but fix the frigging water and generally failing infrastructure around the country too.
Oh, I'd also like some financing for better public schools. I'd like more use of scientifically driven education strategies to be implemented - look to countries with great success and also perform origainal work to determine the best way to prepare students for the realities of the world they will face. This would mean $ for the science, and $ for teachers/aides/etc. Oh, this also needs to have ZERO religious component outside philosophy or history related courses. Schools that do not teach actual science and teach Bogus concepts like young earth ONLY can be used by actual religious schools who are 100% student family or donor funded - ZERO fed/state tax dollars. (if that stuff goes in a philosophy course or history course ok... I'm talking about those ideas being used in place of actual known science).
Again - the wall is great. What was the goal? 40 feet high or something? Build it up. But then immediately get on with doing things that are vital to the long term well being of our country which we constantly hear we do not have enough money to do. Because clearly we do.
If the wall is going to be built... Build our country too.
Again, legal status is NOT citizenship. Only legal citizens vote and have all rights granted to citizens. Anyone here illegally should be deported.
Problem is the Demoncrats wont give it to him because it interferes with operations like Holder's "Fast & Furious" gun running to MS13....
Why the hell should we?!? I'd rather spend the money on the wall ONCE, and be done with it.
And he’s losing leverage every day the shutdown goes on. Those unpaid govt workers will support him for so long before they realize they voted against their own interests.
Fact is, trump only cares about getting a win for trump. Not the common man, not the nation, but only for trump.
He’s worried about terrorists.
The latest news out of France suggests that open borders advocate John Kerry, a longtime Democrat politician who served as secretary of state from 2013 to 2017, believes using walls to protect people from potential harm is only acceptable when those walls are erected around properties he owns.
Properties like the lavish home Kerry’s family owns in Saint-Briac-sur-Mer, an upscale beach resort and commune in northwestern France built for the veritable one percent.
According to an Agence France-Presse report, 90 years ago the grandfather of Kerry and his first cousin Brice Lalonde purchased the Essarts castle in Saint-Briac. It has remained in their family ever since but was reportedly rebuilt as a villa after Nazi soldiers destroyed it during World War II.
Now fast-forward to the present. AFP notes that Kerry himself “has regularly spent time at the estate, most recently joining his relatives to celebrate its 90th year in the family last July.”
Why is this relevant? Because the longtime Democrat politician’s family has been fighting beach-loving hikers over a previously unenforced 1976 law that mandates the public be granted a three-meter right-of-way along every beach, including the beach that runs alongside Saint-Briac.
But for a right-of-way path to be built alongside the commune, the various homes’ property walls would need to be torn down, Kerry’s first cousin complained to AFP.
“The path will impact the well-being of residents by knocking down their walls and ruining their privacy,” he said, adding that he’s also concerned about “terrorist risks.”
Terrorists are known to take advantage of a lack of walls.
No sh*t. It’s always different when it affects a liberal personally. They don’t give a damn about anyone else.
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“Eight states lost population between July 1, 2016, and July 1, 2017. Illinois had the largest numeric decline, losing 33,703 people (this was a relatively small percentage change compared to its population of 12.8 million). Wyoming had the largest percentage decline (1.0 percent). Three states that had been losing population in the previous year, Pennsylvania, Connecticut and Vermont, saw slight increases.”
Got anymore “proof?”
Stopping the flood of illegals is the single biggest issue facing our country today. The Americans who actually work and pay taxes can't afford to support unlimited numbers of illegals. Eventually the takers will out umber the producers and then you have a serious problem.
And how do you discern who’s good or bad? Just shoot em all? Kids and women too? Elderly and infirmed?
Oh one last question. Do you call yourself a Christian? If so, stop it. You’re anything but Christ like.
But the easiest fix is to never allow anyone who crosses the southern border illegally to vote.....EVER!
Democrats will immediately lose any "compassion" they ever had for illegals.
And enforce all the laws already on the books.
Simpletons like Putzie do not understand the meaning of "illegal".
