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BIG BEAR 11-Jan-19
Salagi 11-Jan-19
Annony Mouse 11-Jan-19
bigswivle 11-Jan-19
gflight 11-Jan-19
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jjs 11-Jan-19
Woods Walker 11-Jan-19
absaroka6 12-Jan-19
Annony Mouse 14-Jan-19
Will 14-Jan-19
From: BIG BEAR
11-Jan-19
A woman in Phoenix who is in a nursing home in a vegetative state for 10 years after a near drowning incident has given birth.

What kind of SICK FU....... raped that woman ??? They will find out through DNA of the baby.

From: Salagi
11-Jan-19
I heard about that. Takes a very sorry animal to do that.

I remember seeing a movie years ago where there was a lady in a coma and the "caretaker" was selling time with her. "Kill Bill" maybe? Anyway she comes to in the beginning of the movie and kills a few of them. I thought at the time that what they did was beyond terrible even if it was a movie.

From: Annony Mouse
11-Jan-19
And what kind of care was she receiving that not one care giver even wondered about her condition (obvious signs of pregnancy) until she delivered? Those involved in her daily care had some medical education (especially nurses and doctors), yet not one identified her as possibly pregnant?

From: bigswivle
11-Jan-19
They should cut him into small pieces and keep him alive as long as possible

From: gflight
11-Jan-19
Kathy's Law 1996. Sick folks in this world...

From: BIG BEAR
11-Jan-19
Exactly Jack. That facility is in major trouble.

From: jjs
11-Jan-19
My wife worked in a nursing home as a nurse in Oklahoma many years ago and this happen at the place to a 30 something paralyzed lady. The nursing aid was accused of sexual assault/rape and the place lost it's license and closed down. For some reason the tregs of life gravitate to these places and it happens without close screening of individuals in care of disable adults.

With the mass increase of Baby Boomers that are coming into extended care the help to meet the care is going to be an big issue with abuse and exploitation. I've decided when my times come I will go out to the mid-winter ice flow and go to sleep, worked for the native americans.

From: Woods Walker
11-Jan-19
Maybe they need to hire eunuchs. Or at least make sure the ones who do this BECOME one!

From: absaroka6
12-Jan-19
In my years of construction, I've worked in some Nursing Homes. To be fair, some were well kept, and clean. Most were medieval. Staffed by minimum wage employees who only went through the motions. What pulled at my heart, was the residents, who waited in vain for their family to visit. Nope. No Sir. Not a Chance. I've lived my life on my terms, it will end on my terms.

From: Annony Mouse
14-Jan-19
Chris...unreported news (I subscribe to Forensic Magazine which carries stories like this that are either ignored by the media or buried as small item in back pages)>

Center Where Comatose Woman Had Baby Faced Criminal Probe

Regulators wanted to remove developmentally disabled patients from a Phoenix long-term care facility years before a woman in a vegetative state gave birth, Arizona's largest newspaper reported Sunday.

The Arizona Republic reported Hacienda HealthCare faced a 2016 criminal investigation for allegedly billing the state more than $4 million for bogus 2014 charges for wages, transportation, housekeeping, maintenance and supplies.

The criminal case was dropped in 2017 and no charges were filed, the Republic said, but a court battle is continuing in an effort to force Hacienda to turn over financial records.

Phoenix police have said the 29-year-old woman incapacitated since age 3 was sexually assaulted and gave birth last month.

Investigators are collecting DNA from Hacienda's male employees and others who may have had contact with the woman in an effort to identify a suspect.

The woman's family has said in a statement through their attorney that they will care for the infant boy and have asked for privacy.

The revelation that a woman in a vegetative state was raped inside a care facility has horrified advocates for people with disabilities and the community at large.

Hacienda HealthCare's CEO William Timmons resigned on Dec. 31 as the provider announced new safety measures, including more than one staff member being present during patient interactions and more scrutiny of visitors.

Gov. Doug Ducey, a Republican, said his office is considering bringing in a third party to assume responsibility for the ongoing management of Hacienda.

The nonprofit facility gets more than $20 million annually in taxpayer funds for taking care of extremely ill people, many of whom are incapacitated and on ventilators, the Republic reported.

Hacienda's annual average cost of care was $386,000 per client in 2012 compared with $134,000 per client in similar U.S. facilities, Arizona Department of Economic Security auditors said.

The Republic said former economic security director Timothy Jeffries and the agency's chief law enforcement officer, Charles Loftus have both filed lawsuits against the state, claiming they were forced out of their jobs over their probe of Hacienda.

Jeffries was forced to resign in 2016 after a series of controversies, including a finding by the Arizona Department of Public Safety that the department kept shoddy record-keeping, had insecure storage of guns and ammunition and that it had violated state procurement policies in buying some 60,000 rounds of ammunition.

Jeffries filed suit against the state in 2017 over what he claims is libel in a police report that detailed a stash of weapons and ammunition kept in the agency offices. He claims statements in the DPS audit were false and that there were malicious motives involved in the report.

The Republic quoted Jeffries as saying Timmons was obstinate during the investigation of Hacienda and bragged of tight ties to Ducey.

Ducey spokeswoman Elizabeth Berry said the governor was horrified by accounts of the rape and denied that the state failed to act on concerns raised by the economic security department.

She also said Hacienda played no part in the forced resignations of Jeffries and Loftus after their two-year tenure.

From: Will
14-Jan-19
That, is completely messed up - on all levels. Ugh.

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