Trump Appoints Gun Grabber as AG
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Barr endorsed both the Brady Check portion of the Brady Bill and the semi-auto ban, although he did express a preference for magazine bans: “I would prefer a limitation on the clip [sic] size.” GOA
Not interested in what his personal preference is relative to what I own.
Not hurting anyone with it, none of his business...
Selfie from the gun grabber trumpette....
Bless your heart.
Gflight - how many guns have been grabbed from you thus far? Just curious.
Lost all mine in a boating accident.....
BS,
Great question. Before I sold all of mine to strangers for cash, I never had anything confiscated.
Has anyone had a firearm taken by the government, without cause? Please provide specifics if you can.
Uh no. At least not in PA. One can sell any long gun to anyone provided they do not have criminal record.
You used to see gun grabbers behind every rock...... then Trump became President.......FIFY
Yep, used to have an FFL. All legal.
Since you trumpettes are all literal since your boy took office I wanted to provide the definition as I see it.
gun-grabber n. a person who advocates gun control.
I've long known Reagan was a gun grabber. For many years, like Trump he was a Democrat.....
Maybe there should be a post about water grabbing guns too.
Gflight yeah that day did suck when we lost all of our guns in that boating accident together.
I blame Obama for the war on cops and I blame Trump for the war on guns, if that makes me paranoid in a trumpettes eyes oh well.
Eyes wide shut for your hero is not vigilance...
Yes spike, I cried for days over them but that sure was some good fishing...
"called AK-47’s “machine guns.” Actually, AK-47s in their true, full auto set-up are "machine guns". Right?
Which president banned the import of semi-auto style rifles... ending the glory days when a lawful citizen could easily buy a Steyr AUG or Galil or HK91 right off the shelf. Hint - Was not Trump....
According to the new Trump definition of machine gun it gets kinda confusing. The AK47 was a machine gun like the M16 back in the day. Now they call semi autos AK47 as well but Armalite 15 is semi auto version of M16/M4. Since definitiongate we have bump fire counting as auto according to Trump's ATF so who knows what the future holds....
Imagine the soldier coming back from Syria who can't buy a firearm for self defense because she is underage. Thanks to your hero our draft dodger in cheap....
I see this..... who is nominated for the next AG......
And my mind wonders to "Who would Hillary have nominated????...."
That IS the reality and what that is..... not what we think the choices should have been..... sometimes reality needs to be lived in...... and dealt with.
It comes to banning, much less confiscating guns by the feds..... then I would advise dealing with it in harsh terms. Fight the good fight. With the Constitution in one hand and a Conservative (See: Trump, not Clinton appointments) SCOTUS in the other.
The feds though..... they are not so much the ones to worry IMO as the states and cities/counties are. That is where the real battles are right now. In other words.... keep the powder dry.....
That’s a good slogan to live by Jeff..... Maybe you and Spike can carry it over to all your Muslim threads..... stay vigilant,, not paranoid......
If Trump wasn't presentdent we would be in lockstep as much as a Marine could be as they call cadence funny....;)
Sad that more gun control has passed under Trump than under 8 years of 0bama. What happened to the NRA? Like the ACLU they're not hiding party anymore.
When its President Trump pushing gun control,,,,, JTV is all like,, My guns are still in my safe,,, And...... Stay vigilant but not paranoid.........
But when it’s Democrats in Illinois pushing gun control..... well now it’s time to pile on those evil gun grabbers......
So now the NRA are gun grabbers too? yeah right.
What gun control passed? If you mean an actual law that was passed by congress, I'd like to hear about it.
If you mean an ATF ruling that now puts bump stocks under machine gun restrictions, because it allows a semi-auto gun to fire 500 rounds a minute... after being used to shoot hundreds of people in Vegas... that used a loophole to get around existing machine gun laws (who are we kidding)..... then I don't really care.
NRA is doing what right now against under 21 gun bans? What are they doing about ATF rule?
The bump stocks used in Vegas caused an unusually high ratio of nonfatal to fatal injuries actually saving lives statistics wise compared to other mass shootings.
Most people are like you and don't care, that is what is so sad......
No, Gflight, what's SAD is when you think shooting a shit-ton of people is not all that bad because most were only wounded instead of killed. Duh. THIS kind of retard-math.... that less accurate mass shootings are actually "saving lives" is what undermines the gun rights movement as a whole.
Please start a new fringe movement of your own so as not to associate this dopey logic with the rest of us lawful NRA affiliated gun owners!!!
1000 rounds, 72 minutes, from an elevated position where victims couldn't hide and only 58 are dead. Many people were lucky he was just spraying with a bump stock. It makes me shudder to think what would have been the casualty count with well aimed shots.
Facts are facts and feelings are feelings.
You are good with your feeling that law-abiding gun owners should sacrifice their rights so that you can have a feeling of safety that's not reality.
Your welcome to support gun control if you like. Just don't be upset when I call your ilk gun grabbers......
gflight, you are on an island by yourself on this, no traction. NRA is not anti-gun buy more tinfoil.
NRA is good with Republican gun control and they always have been....
NRA is doing what right now against under 21 gun bans? What are they doing about ATF rule?
Still waiting....
They can propose a crackpot bill for anything. They do it every so often for reparations dating back to slavery to the tune of $14 trillion. The crazy stuff rarely gets out of committee. The slightly less dopey stuff won't pass a successful vote in the full House. The shady democrat socialist Bill's will then fail in the Senate. And if anything utterly stupid like this gun ban bill ever magically makes it to Trumps desk, it won't have 67 senators backing it to override a Presidential veto.
Remember the hysteria over the UN bill that was supposed to take away all our small arms? Obama even signed it, but Senate ratification stopped it. Lots of ways to stop attacks on the 2nd amendment. Saying its lucky more people weren't killed in Vegas because the killer didn't have better guns/aim is NOT one of them.
6 Republicans in the Senate signed on to a red flag law. Talk about that JTV....
Feinstein introduced that same AWB every year since the last NRA approved one expired and it goes nowhere.
This reminds me time to get another pre ban 30 round mag.
Deflect what? she's a liberal gun grabber that's introduced the bill every year.
Saved lives eh? How is that as "long as you got yours in your cabinet gun grabber liberal?"
Barr was behind the disgraceful Ruby Ridge imbroglio. He has blood on his hands, tried to cover the whole thing up, and then went to bat for the FBI murderer that shot a baby in its mother's arms. He's a loathsome little man. His position on guns -- your guns in particular -- is just part of the package. He flat out does not believe in individual rights. Except for your government betters.
BTW the guy that killed all those people in Vegas had a rifle with bump stock and it was fully loaded, on the floor, but had not been fired. That was the report I saw.
Big Bear makes a valid point. Doesn't matter whos doing the grabbing. Just because it hasnt happened yet has nothing to do with it. The point is...it starts somewhere. I'm not gonna make excuses no matter who it is. Remember, Republicans gave us some of those leftist SC judges we've had.
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Shuteye - you need a better source. The vegas killer had multiple guns with bump stocks and 100 rd magazines. You can listen to the sounds of the shots fired in the actual video footage to know that rate was bump-stock speed.... not quite fast enough to be a full-auto, but faster than a regular semi-auto trigger being pulled over and over again. There is no doubt. Other than in the minds of people desperate to sell some other story, ANY other story, than deal with that fact.
"Ive seen that law work more than once, and it HAS saved lives"
What law? I am in Missouri, Show Me!
"you really are ignorant MFer who it seems could care less if lives are saved by preventing a psychotic mentally ill individual from doing harm to his/her self or others . ...."
I showed you above that deaths we're less because of the bumpstocks and we'll aimed fire would have killed more. No other Mass shooting besides Vegas has ever involved bumpstocks.
Since you apparently think you're a Government better or something proclaiming how safe your guns are let me give you the bottom line.
My rights override your dead...so parade those lives around as an excuse all you want like a good liberal to take my rights away but I won't go silent into the good night.....
"From my standpoint, what I would look for, in assessing a regulation, is what is the burden on law-abiding people and is it proportionate to whatever benefit, in terms of safety and effectiveness, will be conferred."
Heller specifically Denies this.....
Gun what is that? All I have is family defense systems that dispense and disperse fast moving lead, copper particles to any person stupid enough to invade my home and threaten me my family and friends. Its all a matter of how its defined in this Brave New World....
My constitutional rights are not based on what you think is reasonable gun control.....
These law's will only serve to keep the true retards underground like the Vegas shooter.
My friend had a new neighbor move in across the road and they complained to the cops he was shooting on his own farm. He had plenty of contacts by the sherriff because the neighbors learned to lie better each time almost as if the deputies were coaching them or telling them more than they should about how to report.
He was completely legal and has an FFL so during business hours he will shoot with customers. Never shot at midnight as was one lie told.
The calls stopped when my friend contacted his Masonic brother who was the former Sherriff. Imagine that.
This could have went different if competitors knew people or a cop was friends with his x wife. Especially with the law's you are championing that violate due process.
So you and your gun grabber friends can use kids or the dead to push your agenda but they still don't Trump my rights.....
Your constitutional rights under the 2nd amendment, as ruled by the Supreme Court in Heller, protects ordinary military equipment, in common use for the time.
These dopey bump stocks are NOT ordinary military equipment, and they are NOT in common use for the time. A few fringe gun nuts does not make a gimmick (designed to get around the NFA laws) somehow common nationwide, its not even popular within the gun community. You show up with a bump-stock at any real shooting event, and they will laugh your wanna-be-Rambo ass out of there!
Its a stupid device designed to bend, if not break, the law. The government closed a loophole that never should have been there in the first place. Done. Let us know if a real constitutional crisis comes up...
No loophole. Trumps ATF rewrote what a machine gun is to include semi autos that can be bump fired. Even 0bama wasn't that stupid. I feel like I'm repeating myself......
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"Florida’s version of the ‘red flag” law as its also known is starting to reveal some disturbing grey areas, specifically among individuals who don't have histories of violence or mental illness.
“These are individuals who are often exercising their first amendment rights online, who are protecting constitutionally protected speech online,” she said. “Maybe it was odious, maybe people didn’t like it but they were hit with the risk protection order because of it.”"