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Tiger eye 31-Jan-19
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From: Tiger eye
31-Jan-19
I won't link any articles here so as not to give any sites the "hits" that drive advertising dollar. But surely you have heard of first NY law and now VA's thankfully rejected bill on abortions. The co sponsor for the VA bill never read it. WTF.

These people are pure evil.

From: Bowfreak
31-Jan-19
Agreed. The fall of man continues.

I am so sick of the term "abortion."

It's not abortion it's simply murder.

From: Woods Walker
31-Jan-19
"We have to pass it to find out what's in it.".........Rep. Nancy Pelosi, current Democrat Speaker Of The House.

WTF indeed!!! It's how these sh*tbags operate. That, and LIE.

From: Annony Mouse
31-Jan-19
Ah..the irony.

The same group of people promoting the "guns kill people" are in favor of killing a select group before and after birth.

They also believe the science of gorbal warming, but deny the science that has shown that babies born prematurely can live. Or the biological fact that with rare exceptions of chromosomal anomalies, the norm of people is XX or XY.

This is the perverse world of putzlandia.

From: HDE
31-Jan-19
The only true abortion is what politicians have become and what the entitled elite they think they are have become.

A day of reckoning is coming for them. Soon...

From: Annony Mouse
31-Jan-19
...post natal abortion for politicians?

From: JTV
31-Jan-19

JTV's Link
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/satans-party-rhode-island-catholic-governor-vows-to-sign-abortion-bill-murder-of-babies-up-to-birth/

From: JTV
31-Jan-19

JTV's Link
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-co-sponsor-of-late-term-abortion-bill-apologizes-says-she-did-not-read-the-bill

From: bowbender77
31-Jan-19
Building a wall is immoral but killing the unborn is AOK. What the HELL.

From: Woods Walker
31-Jan-19

Woods Walker's embedded Photo
Woods Walker's embedded Photo

From: Two Feathers
31-Jan-19
Abortion = Big People KILLING little people.

From: HA/KS
31-Jan-19
Abortion = Big GUILTY People KILLING INNOCENT little people.

From: JTV
31-Jan-19

JTV's Link
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sasse-tells-virginia-gov-northam-to-get-the-hell-of-office-in-wake-of-abortion-comments

From: HDE
31-Jan-19
In the case of those who do this, they had better hope they are right in believing there is no God...

From: HA/KS
31-Jan-19

HA/KS's embedded Photo
HA/KS's embedded Photo

01-Feb-19
Interesting thought, the left says we have no business telling women what to do with their own bodies, meanwhile they are murdering FEMALE babies.....

From: bad karma
01-Feb-19
A portion of my practice involves dependency and neglect. One all to common D&N case is where the mother is addicted to some drug, like crack or cocaine, and is pregnant. The child is born with coke in its bloodstream and the courts get involved. Under the NY law, the addicted mother can abort the child in the last days of the pregnancy, escaping responsibility and killing a child that would otherwise live and be well cared for. This is so wrong.

From: Tonybear61
01-Feb-19
OK any females discussion this thread>>>>>

pretty silent.

I know there is division in my extended family. I have held a nephew in the palm of my hand, saved by the first use of preemie sized respiratory equipment. Pretty sure the tech broke the law by performing surgery when he went into arrest numerous times when doc wasn't available. SHE was a true hero. That guy went on to become a soccer star, graduated college top of his class now is a father with 3 children of his own. Two of his preemie brothers did not make it as the respiratory equipment or surfactant donation program wasn't developed yet.. I have 2 other relatives who lost children just after birth and one lived for three months with an imperfect heart. Seen plenty of mentally, physically disabled folks leading productive lives at client locations too. No one will ever be able to tell me they don't have value.

What the _____ has happened to a good portion of the Nation who supports this nonsense?? No sense of compassion, empathy or feeling for fellow beings (yes they are a being, ask any doctor or nurse working with preemies or children in the womb.).

Roe vs Wade, Rodriguez rulings never covered this... God help us all as eugenics and euthanasia will soon follow as our population ages, its more convenient than standing tough.

From: HDE
01-Feb-19
I have a nephew with not severe down syndrome, but enough to where he is way behind the development curve and will have to be cared for his entire life. Also had heart issues as an infant. He is one year younger than my youngest daughter who is now 11. He still wears diapers to this day to paint the picture of his state.

The docs asked my sister-in-law and brother if they wanted to entertain the thoughts of abortion because of the known condition well before the third trimester.

Their reply: "why is that even an option - duh!! Of course the answer is no"

You can use less than one full hand to count the reasons for aborting a pregnancy. To do so because "it's my body and can do what I want" is the most dumbass, lame, chicken-shit reason that only lazy good for nothing idiots make.

From: JTV
01-Feb-19
Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler and Eichman would be so proud of what those lousy states are doing right now ....

From: Feedjake
01-Feb-19
I saw a video where an irate woman was screaming at pro-life men that “unless you have a uterus, you have no right to voice an opinion!”. My first thought was “but I’ve been an embryo...”. I don’t care what you want to do to your body but body of a genetically distinct human that depends on you for life is something else entirely. If it’s just a part of you than how can it be a different gender and have different DNA than you? Oh I forgot gender is what’s in your feelings, not what’s in your chromosomes.

From: zelveger
01-Feb-19
Read this essay on abortion I am sute you will think a lot about this

From: stillhunter
01-Feb-19
If we take right and wronge out of the U.S. abortion policies. There is still a problem that sould outrage any American on either side of the issue or on either side of the isle. Lets face it we have two powerhouse political institutions in the U.S. both use extreme spending to support the campaign efforts of democrats or republicans. If the federal government wrote the NRA a check for $540 million the American people would be outraged, yet we do each year for planded parenthood. P.p. is not hiding thier spending, they contributed $533 million last year to democratic house and Senate candidates. Under federal law they cant even use the fed money for abortion. No money, not one cent of tax payer money should ever fund candidates on either side ever. Think or that while hitting pot holes today we cant afford to fix.

From: HA/KS
01-Feb-19
Tie ending child support to these bills since they say that the father has no say in the matter.

From: jjs
01-Feb-19
Babies first and euthanasia next for the old and infirm, Netherland comes to mind.

1972 my last duty station was in a USN Hospital Delivery Rm, as a young 21 yr old I had to assist in several abortion and it was a sad event especially when disposing and cleaning the equipment. Had a 16 yr. old girl that came in at 2am for an abortion, the pt. father was the CO of the base. Assist in stillborn that was carry to term, but that was tough but not nearly what an abortion entailed. Cannot believe in late term abortion or killing the child after delivery is acceptable in our society, but does not surprise me that the left will fight to safe a butterfly but will accept the murder of a child.

This was first start by Margret Sanger and advance by the Woodrow Wilson era and now swinging back to the radical left socialist.

From: JTV
01-Feb-19

JTV's Link
speaking of "butterflies" .....

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/sanctity-of-caterpillars-virginia-legislator-who-pushed-infanticide-law-also-filed-bill-to-save-bugs/

From: bigeasygator
01-Feb-19
"Under the NY law, the addicted mother can abort the child in the last days of the pregnancy, escaping responsibility and killing a child that would otherwise live and be well cared for"

How would they do this? Doesn't seem to meet any of the criteria for abortion necessary under the newly passed law, namely:

(1) if it is performed earlier than 24 weeks of pregnancy; (2) in an “absence of fetal viability”; or (3) if necessary to “protect the patient’s life or health.”

From: HA/KS
01-Feb-19

HA/KS's embedded Photo
HA/KS's embedded Photo

From: Trax
01-Feb-19
When people compare abortion to what the Natzi's believed and acted on they are not being facetious. In the 1930's once in a position of power Hitler and his henchmen developed a system of abortion on all, if they were deemed unworthy. Including Germans. It started with one with a disability and then became all who were disabled. The German people once they knew what was going on were outraged and shocked. They demanded it be stopped. Hitler, publicly agreed with them. And then continued the practice more privately until he had more power. Then expanded it. In China today you are allowed one child. If you defy the order and have another it is confiscated by the state. it's life is then, aborted.

Tada above is exactly right. It has happened before, it is happening right now. ANY abortion is MURDER. The execution of not just a human being, but an infant. It is infanticide. A civilized nation would not mandate the legal murder of babies. We have a long way to go. Now watch some moron blind dumb sheep liberal try to equate murder of the unborn to the border crisis.

From: Rocky
01-Feb-19
JTV,

"Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler and Eichman would be so proud of what those lousy states are doing right now ..."..and Dr. Mengele "The Angel of Death" in Auschwitz.

I will not allow myself to comment or address anyone afflicted with the sickness or those affiliated politically, who would agree with their own consent to kill a child.

The Rock

From: gadan
01-Feb-19
The radical liberals are pouncing now so that when RBG finally does pass on, they will have something to challenge when RvW is overturned.

From: JTV
01-Feb-19

JTV's Link
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/flashback-friday-trump-slammed-for-rip-the-baby-out-of-the-womb-comments-but-here-we-are-in-2019/

From: JTV
01-Feb-19

JTV's Link
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/flashback-friday-trump-slammed-for-rip-the-baby-out-of-the-womb-comments-but-here-we-are-in-2019/

01-Feb-19

Spike Bull 's Link
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/governor-who-endorsed-infanticide-received-2-million-from-planned-parenthood/

From: HA/KS
01-Feb-19

HA/KS's embedded Photo
HA/KS's embedded Photo

From: bad karma
01-Feb-19
Under the NY law, the addicted mother can abort the child in the last days of the pregnancy, escaping responsibility and killing a child that would otherwise live and be well cared for" How would they do this? Doesn't seem to meet any of the criteria for abortion necessary under the newly passed law, namely:

(1) if it is performed earlier than 24 weeks of pregnancy; (2) in an “absence of fetal viability”; or (3) if necessary to “protect the patient’s life or health.”

It will be done routinely in practice. Colorado was an early state to have medical marijuana. The doctors would stretch the definition of "necessary" to the point of absurdity. Abortion zealots will do the same thing. And the evidence will be immediately destroyed, so how is one going to prosecute it ?

From: lawdy
01-Feb-19
A fellow teacher is a nurse. She brought in a video of a partial birth abortion for one of our vocal pro choice teachers to view. I was able to last about halfway through. That needs to be on TV for everyone to see the horror. We as a nation are morally finished. Welcome to the new Auchwitz.

01-Feb-19
Abortion is murder. For any reason. Its murder and it needs to be recognized as such. When I hear people make excuses about it, I wander how long it would take those same people to cut your throat if it advances themselves. Because they have already demonstrated doing so is fine and acceptable behavior if it suits their impression of what's best for them.

From: Annony Mouse
01-Feb-19
Further, in the NY law...an abortion does not have to be done by a physician. Irony, one time it was about access to safe abortion procedures. Now it is simply about access.

From: Annony Mouse
01-Feb-19

From: Rocky
01-Feb-19
bk, When RBG kicks the bucket Roe will be history. A sense of normalcy should then sweep the nation.

The Rock

From: TT-Pi
01-Feb-19
If I look past my brains outrage, I see my heart breaking.

From: Woods Walker
01-Feb-19

Woods Walker's embedded Photo
Some Things Never Really Change
Woods Walker's embedded Photo
Some Things Never Really Change

From: Annony Mouse
02-Feb-19

From: Tundra
02-Feb-19

From: thecanadian
02-Feb-19
So what excuse does the GOP have not passing legislation to end the murder? Seems to me if it was THAT important to their platform it should be the focal point of their legislative efforts.

From: bad karma
03-Feb-19
A minority party can't pass legislation in the case of NY. And at the federal level, such a law would stall in the Democrat controlled house.

Educate yourself before making statements that demonstrate you couldn't find a clue with a Garmin GPS.

From: JTV
03-Feb-19

JTV's Link
http://allnewspipeline.com/Forsaken_God_Liberals_Legalize_Murder.php

From: Annony Mouse
03-Feb-19

From: Annony Mouse
03-Feb-19

Annony Mouse's Link
From Moonbattery:

Is Eating Aborted Children Next?

If politics is downstream of culture, then even radical progressives like Democrat governors Andrew Cuomo and Ralph Northam lag behind the entertainment industry. A year ago, comedienne Sarah Silverman demonstrated what could be the next liberal fad after infanticide when she humorlessly joked about eating aborted children:

I can hear the pols demagogically holding forth already. Why should any child go hungry in this country when nearly a million children are aborted every year and their corpses are just wasted? Those dead babies could be emitting carbon dioxide as they decompose, thereby offending the sacred polar bears.

From: Annony Mouse
03-Feb-19

From: Woods Walker
03-Feb-19
OUCH!

From: thecanadian
04-Feb-19
"A minority party can't pass legislation in the case of NY. And at the federal level, such a law would stall in the Democrat controlled house. Educate yourself before making statements that demonstrate you couldn't find a clue with a Garmin GPS."

I honestly didn't know a human being could be so dense. Karma, the GOP had control of all three branches of the federal government in 2005 through 2007 as well as 2016-2018. It would only take a simple majority of votes to pass legislation to make most abortions illegal. Now, being that the piece of legislation would have been from the Fed. Gov. no state could pass laws to supersede the Fed. - need help with that GPS of yours?

From: bad karma
04-Feb-19
As soon as you explain how the legislation would overrule Roe v. Wade.....

From: slade
04-Feb-19

slade's Link
Hayward: A Wake-Up Call for NeverTrumpa (and our Maverick blatherskites)

From: HA/KS
04-Feb-19

HA/KS's embedded Photo
HA/KS's embedded Photo

From: HDE
05-Feb-19
These sick and perverted progressive extremists have no idea the fury and hell they have awakened...

05-Feb-19
1 in 4 women have had an abortion. That means women you know. Wives, sisters, daughters have had an abortion.

Ways to reduce the number of abortions: - Better sex education - Increased access to contraceptives - Widely available healthcare to women across all income levels

By the way The same people trying to punish women for contemplating abortions are also trying to punish women for bringing their kids to our country so they can live a better life by forcibly separating them at the border.

Go figure.

From: lawdy
05-Feb-19
Fav poster, you teach or whatever in a wealthy area. No worries about illegals. I taught in a very poor area where the feds shuttled Somalians every week, along with welfare families. Every Thursday, the bus drops them off. Quite a stretch comparing killing a human being to trying to keep people from entering our country illegally. Laws and rules are being followed. I blame the adults who put these kids into that situation. I live on the Northern border and have several neighbors who are border patrol agents and have done time on the Southern border. Talk with them about what they see everyday. It isn’t what Pelosi and Schumer espouse. I find it hard to believe you teach kids if you agree with killing unborn children. They are your job security and deserve a chance to live. Either you are trying to rile people up or you are heartless and evil. Someday, we will all be judged. I have never been perfect, but I respect life given to us by our creator.

From: Woods Walker
05-Feb-19
Yeah Sybil...you Dem psychopaths know ALL about "forcible separation" of a mother and child....like by hacking the child to pieces as a "choice". You are some sick, sick people.

From: JTV
05-Feb-19
The democrats in general are some sick people, favoring the death of a child, foregoing the security of the southern border and wanting open borders, wanting taxes as high as 79-90% ...... yup, they are some sick people ...

05-Feb-19
Being pro choice is not pro abortion. Its saying a woman has a choice. A delicate decision made by her and her doctor. Bringing religion into it is silly because not everyone practices, believes in the same religion. If you want to create laws based on your religion, maybe America isn't the place for you?

From: Woods Walker
05-Feb-19

Woods Walker's embedded Photo
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You're a hypocritical lair Sybil, you and the rest of the "pro-choice" crowd. If you were indeed pro-CHOICE, then you'd see that the people who CHOOSE to invade this country illegally are merely reaping the consequences of their OWN CHOICE to come here as they did. If they don't want to be separated from their kids then DON'T BREAK OUR LAWS. Just like the LEGAL Americans who "choose" to rob a bank, assault someone, rape or murder and then get separated from their kids when the go to jail as a result of their "choices".

From: HDE
05-Feb-19
Better take a history lesson on the pre and post Revolutionary War era. This was country was formed on religious belief. It's irrefutable and fact.

To say it's a woman's choice to abort is to say she owns, in your case, the fetus. In others cases, the infant or unborn. So now we're talking about the ownership of something with the same genetic code as you. Sounds an awful lot like slavery...

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05-Feb-19

From: TT-Pi
05-Feb-19
YFP What religion accepts abortion? What commandment do you have an issue with? We are not a Godless nation.

From: lawdy
05-Feb-19
Your Fav Poster, I served this country, 68-69, I think I earned a right to be here, speak my mind, and disagree with you. Nowhere in my post did I say that laws should be based on “religion,” your words not mine. I argued on the basis of human decency. I don’t believe in religion, I believe in faith and a sense of what is right or wrong. If a person needs therapy or counseling to get them to justify a decision, maybe that thing they are considering doing might be wrong. My Polish relatives went through Auchwitz. No religion there, except for those who came in on railroad Cars, and the Germans had a permanent solution to that religion thing. They failed. Today, in North Conway, NH, a human fetus or baby was found in the sewerage treatment plant. Apparently, it was flushed down the toilet. I don’t think you need to worry about religion in our government, that train left a hundred years ago. Your moral philosophy has won, at least for now.

From: JTV
05-Feb-19

JTV's embedded Photo
JTV's embedded Photo

From: Annony Mouse
05-Feb-19
The party of death:

Dem Senator Blocks Bill Banning Infanticide For Babies Who Survive Abortions

Sometime in the future, the defense for a murder will be "post partum abortion" ;o(

From: JTV
05-Feb-19
PutZ is so proud of his party that is willing to kill new born infants .... PutZ can rot in hell ...

From: Ace
06-Feb-19

Hard to watch but too important not to share.

From: HA/KS
06-Feb-19

HA/KS's embedded Photo
HA/KS's embedded Photo

From: HDE
06-Feb-19
Watched the Dr. clip on Facebook the other day. Some people immediately thought he performed them. No, he callously described the procedure to paint the picture of how heartless it is.

So, for all the spineless pieces of filth that approve of this, let's bring you down to the horse stables, tie a rope around a wrist and the other hitch up to the horse and give the horse a good swat just to see how it feels to have an appendage ripped off...

From: slade
07-Feb-19

slade's Link
February 7, 2019 Infanticidal Democrats Took Their Cues from Barack Obama

From: JL
07-Feb-19
From Judge Nap on Doe v Bolton.

" THE JUDGE’S RULING: UNDERSTANDING DOE V. BOLTON This week Fox News Senior Judicial Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano explains the law surrounding abortion and late-term abortion: “In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued two abortion decisions on the same day. The better known of the two, Roe v. Wade, has been the fulcrum for political, legal, moral and religious debate as fierce as any this country has seen since the abolitionist movement challenged slavery in the era before the War Between the States. … However, thanks to Roe's little-known companion case, Doe v. Bolton, the phrase ‘the health of the mother’ can mean the physical, mental, psychological or emotional health of and (inexplicably) the age of the mother. Stated differently, under Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, if a mother satisfies a physician that she would suffer emotionally if she were to carry her baby to term or is too old to be a mother, in all states in the union, she can have an abortion at any time in her pregnancy -- even at the end of the ninth month.” More here."

From: Annony Mouse
10-Feb-19
From the actions have consequences department in NY:

Man Accused of Murdering Pregnant Girlfriend Escapes Abortion Charge Due to NY Law

A Queens, New York, man accused of murdering his pregnant girlfriend had initially faced an abortion allegation as well, but prosecutors spared him that charge due to New York’s recently passed pro-abortion law.

Queens District Attorney Richard Brown initially charged Anthony Hobson, 48, with murder and second-degree abortion for allegedly stabbing to death his 35-year-old pregnant victim, Jennifer Irigoyen, on Sunday, the New York Post reported.

Hobson surrendered to authorities Friday and was charged with murdering both Irigoyen and her unborn baby.

Methinks that the proper punishment for Hobson would be application of post partum abortion.

From: Tiger eye
10-Feb-19
Oh Paulie,. This from Briarcliff's " Rate my teacher" site.

Mar 07, 2018 Classes tend towards indoctrination with a very socialist bent. Does not encourage research and evaluation and his class comments often demean any student who holds even a slightly different view.

Submitted by a Parent

From: Tiger eye
10-Feb-19
Oh Paulie,. This from Briarcliff's " Rate my teacher" site.

Mar 07, 2018 Classes tend towards indoctrination with a very socialist bent. Does not encourage research and evaluation and his class comments often demean any student who holds even a slightly different view.

Submitted by a Parent

From: South Farm
11-Feb-19
There's a couple guys here who I think escaped half-way through a good forceps squeeze to their melon. Ain't no other way to explain 'em..

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