Then he will MAGA!!!!!!!!
I think it will be a declaration of intention and his reasoning why. He has it shined up now. Question is will N.P. blow a fuse. Will she show up? He's got this.
Any one else notice a non-elected politician will be giving the rebuttal to the State of the Union?
But like the guy or not, it's the president of the US discussing his ideas with us. Everyone in the country with a TV should turn it on and watch or listen on the radio if you dont want to see half the humans in attendance stand and applaud like Sony Michelle just scored a touchdown with 7' to go in the super bowl and the other half look like KC fans about 5' into OT 2 weeks ago.
Im not a fan of the guy, but Ill watch it with an open mind to hear his ideas unfiltered and get a sense of what he feels is important the next 2 years.
FYI - for the same reason, I'd encourage folks to suck up the discomfort and listen to the rebuttals. You dont have to like it, but it's worth hearing.
Listen to Abrams explain to the American People, how she was "whitewashed" out of the Election? Nah, I'm good...
That’s the problem regardless of what you think about Trump. Because Incase you left leaning guys have been asleep, most of what Trump wants and has promised, seems to be only contradicted by the senate and congress.
Sure, you can go to places that vote party lines, and find average citizens that disagree with him. But, if you get into average America, the large majority finds his policies right in line with the most pressing issues threatening this country today. Whether they like him or not.
Sadly the other team will tell their people what to think and they will begin to think it even if they didn't when listening to the President. Then the next week of spinning and brainwashing...Again.
My buddy "Massachusetts-Will" recently posted the way that is done and some great techniques to sell it. ( whatever your selling) He's not the bad guy, just the messenger. I stand with him. I bust his nuts enough to show that opposition is in open season, with no bag limit, even in Ma. -Pi
That I'd watch on pay per view.....
Thus country and politics is broken. Trump is our only chance to fix it, but the issue is the Rs have almost as much to lose as the Ds
SSSHHHH...it's OK, sheeple...none of what the Orange Man says is true, or relevant!
There isn’t one Dem for open borders. Period. No wall is no wall.
This is a man that spends most of his time watching tv and tweeting.
Foreign affairs? He doesn’t even consult his own advisors.
He’s a sham. The SOTU will be his platform to sell his wall. It won’t work. He won’t change anyone’s mind and it will be all bluster and pointless.
Tonight, when Trump mentions: — "Family values," remember children in cages. Separated from their mothers.
—"Fiscal responsibility," $1.5T in tax cuts for the rich. With no benefit to the middle class
—"America first," concessions to Putin & Kim. And lies about ISIS being defeated.
—"Border security," a useless wall.
—"Unity," attacks on Schumer and Pelosi and being president only for his base with no interest in unifying this nation.
Pelosi keeps sucking on her wooden dentures... And the smirk on her face when Trump mentions the walls of the specials like her.
They don’t even know what hit them....
Bernie went red and cried. Priceless.
Nancy : She was reading it to find out what's in it. That's a first. What a goof.
A WIN for TRUMP. A WIN for AMERICA. Big Loss for the Socialist ... Well Done Mr. President!
When will the bowlibs and Blatherskiting Never Trump Butt-Hurt Mavericks learn..
When was the last time you heard a sitting President say this in a speech of this significance?
Democrat Stacey Abrams gave her party’s official response to President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address and claimed that his policies were hurting the American economy.
Speaking before an almost entirely female audience — which stood silently throughout — Abrams declared: “The Republican tax bill rigged the system against working people. Rather than bringing back jobs, plants are closing, layoffs are looming, and wages struggle to keep pace with the actual cost of living,” she claimed.
Great speech. Gold star on everything but the N Korea claim.
Dirk Diggler's Link
President Trump has come a long way, and he did a good job of getting away from "We do great things, the best things, the bestest of the best things in fact". He made the liberal Dems look really bad on his points regarding socialism and abortion. Personally, I think too much time was devoted to the criminal justice reform for a SOTU, but it made for a nice story line or two.
KSflatlander, I don't get information from a side, but if you struggle with that, then by all means be sure to keep yourself in check. The "rebuttal" should not really even be a thing, as there is no official purpose as far as I know. It is about nothing more than political posturing, regardless of whether it is the D's or R's presenting. Of course there is plenty of political posturing in the SOTU as well, but at least there is a reason for the address. The SOTU is the President's address, that is it and that is all.
One of my favorite moments was celebrating Buzz Aldrin!! Think about it... millennial retards are still arguing that the earth is flat and the moon landing was fake, and here is a real American Hero who stood on the moon and planted the American flag. Even better, Trump celebrated future missions on American-made rockets! For those who remember gathering with family to watch the 1970's Apollo moon missions, this had to give you a chill. American is back in the space race!!
Trump put it all out there, a reminder of his accomplishments (that the pundits said couldn't be done) and an equally bold vision for the future. Strong support of the border wall and patriotism, protecting American interests both at home and abroad. No waivering on our friendship with Israel. How the Democrats still hold a majority of the jewish vote I will never understand.....?? Trump standing up to Iran and Russia and China. Even some success in North Korea and some small possibility for a major breakthrough!
Lots to celebrate on the economy, but does he really have to list every race and color for record low unemployment ever time he talks? I get it. Record low unemployment. Does it really help to play the "Identity politics' game and list black unemployment, latino, asian unemployment, women's unemployment, disabled unemployment, etc. I hate dividing America into categories of color. We are all Americans. Unemployment is record low for left-handed people, too. I get it.
If I had to critique anything, I thought the dig about the Mueller investigation was pretty vain and self-serving, and I don't recall hearing much about our commitment to the NATO alliance (other than our allies now paying more). And it remains to be seen if we can actually get out of these wars in Iraq/Syria/Afghanistan without the whole thing falling apart and becoming worse than when we started.
I think the Dems in the audience wearing silly Halloween costumes exposed themselves well for anyone watching, with the childish antics and grimacing over any Trump success. And I hope someone releases a copy of those fake white papers to see what Pelosi was pretending to read. Ha! Best of all, Trump called out the far left dream of Socialism, and forced the audience to show their true allegiance with the cameras rolling! Well done, Mr. President.
Well played, Sir!
One of my favorite moments was watching Kamal Toe Harris shaking her head in self defiance as she listened to President Trump unveil his list of accomplishments. Also seeing a close up of old Bernie turning red as the whole audience applauded no to socialism!!
Maybe so, but not quite as moronic as calling attention to something that was resolved a century ago.
Illegal immigration is morally wrong, it drives down livable wage for the workers, increase the deficit on the social programs, medical care, education, crime and overall living standards and the DNC were sitting on their hands for approving this.
We have homelessness in our major cities that is not being address but the emphasis is on the illegals. If one of us send our underage kid off unintended to another country or state we would be charged with child abandonment and why is it acceptable for illegals to do it?
The DNC has moved to the socialist agenda and glad Trump called it out for what it is.
Feel free to separate my words out of context and try to dismantle. However, I’m sure you get the point I’m making. HA/KS’s statement was moronic.
Yes, he involved a few people and parts of American history to remind current Americans what separates us from everyone else. What makes our democracy unique. Good literature involves proof of your claims. Good communication to a nation does as well when you have had such a belligerent effort to erase that history.
Some of those poor women probably believed their actions were vindicated by what you say. However, I’m betting most everyone of them believed it was a win win for making an inuendo statement about Trump.
Have we not learned the dangers in idolizing sex, race, party, or a host of other things? I’d think so by now we’d all be able to say the problems this whole world has is based on the premise that special treatment and recognition is the first step towards creating a problem.
Women as a group, deserve no more celebration then men when it comes to what’s been sacrificed.
Ummm...no. It's nothing like that.
Those brave men were there for a very specific reason. To illustrate what is at risk if this country continues on a path to the left. They put their lives on the line for to fight against the very things that are we are fighting against and for today, socialism and our country's sovereignty. It was a VERY poignant and real reminder of what they fought for, and many died to protect, and how we are really only one generation away from losing it.
Unlike suffrage of course. Has Trump (or any Republican for that matter) suggested in any way that the right to vote should be taken away from women, or that women shouldn't make equal pay for equal work?
Of course not. It was as dumb as wearing pussy hats.
The whole "Women's March" has turned into nothing, but an anti-Trump rally...with every other "faction" piling on, and joining in. The White Suits had nothing to do with "Suffrage" IMHO...it was nothing more than a Political Statement.
If they were all in Solidarity for Women's rights, why not stand and applaud for "ending human trafficking/sexual assault"?
I'll tell you why not...Political posturing.
I didn't, but we both know that. I simply stated that in terms of being moronic, calling attention to an issue that was fixed a century ago is just as bad, if not worse, than bringing attention to a currently relevant concern.
Both sides have some good people. Wow. If that is somehow racist, then so is wearing white to Congress in winter.
I agree with you that the comparison to wearing white outfits by Congresswomen in attendance at the SOTU to KKK attire is a bit ridiculous. Some of the same folks defending the wearing of MAGA hats at a pro-life rally now find it fair to criticize this? Wow!
Love the way the left picks and chooses the sanity of what is to be read into "symbols"...... which they also feel is theirs to pick and choose....
FWIW...... pretty sure that "comparison" was sarcasm and a joke..... if it's one thing liberal leftists lack..... it's a sense of humor..... they are humorless and literal... even if they have no idea what they are being literal about.... "Perpetually offended" is the best description I have heard. They LIVE to be offended. It's their super power.....
Mine is I couldn't care less if they were offended..... suck it up buttercup, man up (using the mansplaining dialect.....hopefully even more offensive.... )
We won't be equal until the underdog/minority/disadvantaged get on with it. So they keep the fire burning. Just get on with it.
Point out injustice as it comes up. People that separate themselves ( IE: the white suits) are not accepting that there are others that are and have been fighting for them all along. They are falsely drawing an artificial circle as if no one else can relate. That's just ridiculous because most people can sympathize with injustice regardless of the specifics.
Secretary!?!? She isn't a Cabinet member. Madam Speaker is the only thing she'll be for the next two years but now and going forward she is a putz.
"However, CBS found widespread approval for Trump’s State of the Union. Among independents, 82 percent approved. Democrats only gave 30 percent approval while Republicans (as might be expected) gave the speech 97 percent approval.
The 97 percent approval among Republicans, when combined with the 90-10 Trump over Kasich numbers from a recent Emerson College poll of Iowa voters, should end all serious talk of someone challenging him for the Republican nomination in 2020. He may have been an outsider in 2016, but today President Trump is the Republican Party (a fact which makes his relationship with some senators a little difficult)."
You know someone's had their azz handed to em when their best defense is "well, it really didn't count....."
What’s exhausting is the way you keep expanding your grievances in order to defend what you originally posted.
Trump calling attention to what the WWII vets fought against is totally relevant the left’s current desire for socialism and open borders.
On the other hand, calling attention to “women suffrage” is not.
Trump’s SOTU was a very good speech and his delivery was the best I seen out of him thus far.
Habitat for Wildlife's Link
""The rise in farm bankruptcies represents a reckoning for rural America, which has suffered a multiyear slump in prices for corn, soybeans and other farm commodities touched off by a world-wide glut, made worse by growing competition from agriculture powerhouses such as Russia and Brazil. ""
Curt Hudnutt, who oversees rural banking for Rabobank North America, one of the biggest U.S. farm lenders, said that while its losses have been minimal so far, the bank’s farm-loan portfolio is deteriorating and he expects bankruptcies to increase among U.S. farmers this year.
“We thought 2019 would be the year things turned around,” said Mr. Hudnutt. “Then the trade dispute happened and that really put a damper on things.”
Nathan Kauffman, Omaha branch executive at the Kansas City Fed, called the recent rise in bankruptcies modest. He said that while further increases are likely, he doesn’t anticipate a sharp jump in filings, though the downturn in agriculture could drag on for years to come.
The slump in commodity prices followed a period of historic profitability in the Farm Belt, which left operators with significant cash reserves. Interest rates, while on the rise, have remained relatively low. Farmland values, a major factor in a farm’s net worth, have declined modestly, as demand for land continues from fund investors and large farms that are still well capitalized.
Nationwide, chapter 12 bankruptcy filings are below highs reached in 2010, when commodity prices dropped following the U.S. recession.
Keep licking KS's boots, he needs the help.............
K Cummings's Link
“Dairy farmers are having the most problems right now,” said Mark Miedtke, the president of Citizens State Bank in Hayfield. “Grain farmers have had low prices for the past three years but high yields have helped them through. We’re just waiting for a turnaround. We’re waiting for the tariff problem to go away.”
Miedtke said the underlying problem began before the trade issues, with farmers being too efficient for their financial good and demand not keeping pace with the production."
As is often the case, it would appear there are multiple factors at play here. Also, as is often the case, people tend to focus on only factors that support a preconceived notion or underlying agenda.
As is often the case, bias exists on both sides...
Trade disputes are having an impact is a factual statement, regardless of what other variables are at play. You and Slade made assumptions...
Cancer untreated will cause a slow painful death. Chemo and radiation treatment is more discomfort in the short term, to offer a real chance at long term survivability.
I agree with your statement. Why does sharing an article have some conclude anything other than it is sharing facts?
Many are concerned with our debt, but Farmers may need more assistance. Point being there are trade-offs.
Everything every politician does will effect others, sometimes in a positive way, sometimes not.
Of course it does Frank. I never suggested otherwise.
It's human nature to search for a scapegoat but when a ship sinks, as much as you'd like to blame the water coming in, the hole in the hull is the real culprit.
As I never suggested any blame, that is why I shared the article in it's entirety.
Look at it like the battle against terrorism and radical Islam. Someone might post an article saying that our intervention just makes them angrier and creates more terrorists. But that ignores the current untenable situation where groups of radical islamists are trying to kill us, would happily kill ALL of us if afforded the time and opportunity to do so.... and only our greater aggressive intervention and risk of short term discomfort can possibly stop our certain long term destruction.
Let's just have honest discussions and recognize not everything done is 'great' for everyone, especially in the short run.
It's basic economics.
Habitat for Wildlife's Link
Maybe micro and macro are intertwined?
Probably just me out if sync again with the mindset here, but it is State Of...somehow trade, farming seem just a wee bit more important to the State Of to me than investigations. Hey, that's just me though. I accept we disagree and that's OK.
OK, so do you suggest we refuse to trade with them? Or continue as it's been? China is our political enemy and military enemy, but it is all tied in with the fact that they are also our economic enemy. That doesn't mean we can ignore them. What President Trump is trying to do is gain a better situation for us in terms of world wide trade. There is no way we are going to get a deal that only benefits us or addresses our every wish. The attempt is to get a better deal. A more fair deal to America. We will see if that gets done but it sounds like something by spring is very possible. The stock market, which short term feeds on perception and speculation, will love it. The long term will fall back on the proof, which is in the pudding.
No. I made a statement of fact.
" By Marjorie Kulba AgDay TV AgDay Producer Email Chinese leaders said the country would be buying more U.S. soybeans, and now we have proof it did. The USDA reported a buy on Tuesday of 2,603,000 mt that is scheduled to be delivered to China. Another 274,000 mt is scheduled for delivery to unknown destinations. This is in addition to Monday's buy of about 612,000 mt.
After two days of talks last week, China's lead trade negotiator Vice Premier Liu He met with President Trump and the other U.S. negotiators in the Oval Office. He revealed China would buy another 5,000,000 mt of U.S. soybeans."
SMH though at all of the folks having an opinion without any skin in the game. Similar to the other thread where a guy in KY is trying to tell a CO land owner about wolves. Lots of experts, mainly getting their information on-line.
The notion that someone has to be a farmer to have "skin" in this particular "game" or even have an opinion about it is offensive.
When it comes to trade relations with China, everyone has skin in the game. Same with farming, especially when it comes to "CRP" lands. Heaven forbid the US taxpayer would stop subsidizing someone's wildlife habitat, but that's a whole different discussion for a different day.
Business is business. Adapt or die.
Wore me out a long time ago...
Thanks for noticing. As spike pointed out on a recent thread, Kevin would either respond to my comment on that thread or wait until a later one to pounce. He can't help himself. But, I will try to explain my reasoning in good faith.
Our purchase of our farm, like most major decisions in life, had multiple forces at play. Certainly recreational value was a high priority, as was my desire to have a 'Sand County' experiment of my own, being dedicated to wildlife conservation. Always though, as with every decision we have made that has a major potential impact on our future, long term finances were considered. The desire to be a income generator in later stages of life was, and remains a high priority for us. This no doubt is the kind of advice you extend to your professional clients.
The purchase was made during our peak earning years. At that time, we knew for the farm to be a revenue generator 10-15 years down the road we would have to "invest" in the quality of the land. You see, it was cash rented for 40 plus years and abused. No one wanted to farm it any longer, and with 60 acres of tillable only able to grow fescue for hay, there would not be a great return.
So, I made the decision to enroll it in CRP. What you call subsidized assistance, we have spent more each year improving the habitat, more by at least 2X. Those subsidies have provided spillover benefits to many, who do not pay for them. Please go look at my 'Things in Common' thread to see the amount of deer using just a small parcel of the property. My surrounding neighbors have all leased their land, and are receiving a higher dollar in rent because the word is out.
Other benefits include the multitude of non-game species that utilize the land, and might be completely gone in the area as only less than 3% of native grass prairie remains today. Please google to see the hundreds of species that need tall prairie grasses for suitable habitat.
The filtration provided by prairie grasses helps minimize agricultural herbicide and pesticide run-off. With up to one third of the root masses dying every year, no other plant life produces as much under-ground bio-mass as does prairie grasses. The benefits to agriculture in the future you can project intuitively no doubt. The air quality is also improved.
CRP also takes land out of crop production, thus having a supply effect on the market for crops-boosting farm revenue for others. No doubt one of the reasons the government does it, a positive side effect being the benefit to wildlife.
I can go on, but I assume a smart man like yourself knows all of this already. My point, actually witnessing first hand the money coming in from the government, versus the money going out-society at large is receiving benefits at a minimum commensurate with the "subsidy" received. I do not think of it as a subsidy, but rather a partial payment for work done that benefits others more than it does me.
OK, so to the part of 'adapt or die'...farmers surrounding us now are begging to rent our farm because of the investments I have made. Not just the bio-mass, but also spreading tons and tons of lime, adding nutrients as soil test recommend etc. Being close to retirement, I will need to calculate farm revenue from growing crops with as much certainty as possible, which is not much, and compare this to a "guaranteed" revenue stream of 15 years from CRP renewal, if available.
As you know I bet from all the sage advice you give your clients, crop prices, at least in the short run, have impacts on land values. I turn 60 next Friday, Robin is 62. We only have the short run. So far our farm has returned at least an equal growth as our other retirement assets. Decisions must be made wisely. To me and my way of thinking, this is a different kind of skin in the game. I will be disappointed in myself if the final decision for our farm is weighted more towards financial return than it is a commitment to conservation.
I will predict you will no doubt respond with another one of your parsed word responses trying to prove something. I didn't really write this essay for you, but any one else who might have cared enough to see why trump's position on trade is of special concern to myself and others right now. Yes we will all be affected, but some more than others. It is not whining, but an attempt to make a well informed decision.
I meant to add you sound like a liberal for being offended by my opinion. Thin skin for sure, but I say this knowing you will take another shot. Flail away...
The difference is Henry's statement wasn't directed toward me, Frank's was. More importantly, I didn't see it as racist propaganda. Even so, what part of my statement didn't you see? When you said Henry's post was "moronic," I said the following:
"Maybe so, but not quite as moronic as calling attention to something that was resolved a century ago."
Does that sound like a ringing endorsement to you?
That's all well and good Frank but it really isn't any more complicated than this.
If you cannot handle short term fluctuations in the value of your investments, you simply aren't invested correctly. I own a considerable amount of stock on a particular pharmaceutical company. The government is constantly doing things that affect the value of that stock (as well as every other equity investment I own). Big deal. The difference between you an me is that I don't complain about it every time some politician does something that affects my investments in a negative way (and Trump has done that on a number of occasions). I am confident that what is good for the country long term is inevitably going to be good for my investments.
As to what I tell my clients, regardless of the investment. Let me repeat... if you cannot handle short term fluctuations in the value of a particular investment, you should not be invested in it...period.
A) Prove I have complained. Pointing out a decision has an impact is not complaining. It is food for thought and discussion, except in your world.
B) What makes you think I cannot handle short term fluctuations in my investments? Have I ever shared anything with you that you have enough information to make that call? No, so I suggest you actually shut up Kevin.
If everything goes OK, we would like to bequeath the land as a conservancy, we are considering it. An act like that has tax implications, and timing makes a difference. And no, you do not have enough knowledge to offer advice. Just sit down, you are not even close to being the smartest guy in the room. Neither am I, but smart enough to know who to listen to and it is not a retail CFP.
PS: By the way, even a dumb guy like me knows that would be a conservancy, not a "conservatory."
"Excellent speech. God bless America."
No where else in this world could a populist, previously labeled liberal, be elected on conservative promises, by a republic of people that are fed up with the abuse of their democratic government. Except America. God Bless men
offensive is when the potus actually has to say that in a speech due to the leftist lunacy in leadership we have been experimenting with
I've got KPC the first round, within the first minute. Fista-cuffs or debate.
Justin, typical no class act on your part, a phony all the way through. God bless.
Thanks for the PM Ryan. All options are out there, but only if Robin will be fine after I am gone. Once locked in it cannot be reversed, so we need to be sure. Still too young yet.
You strut around the CF with your repeated declarations of wanting debate, using any and all inflammatory methods necessary to get it, and then twist it as if you were unfairly labeled or attacked. It's grown old and used up. Juvenile even. So, I figured I'd drop down to that level and be juvenile too. Simply, you like taking pot shots at people. So, I returned the favor.
I love honest debate, and believe an honest individual would recognize that sharing as much personal information as I did was exactly for that purpose.
I also think an honest person would recognize not only my areas for improvement, but their own as well and, that of another who constantly parses words to annoy people, claiming at times words mean something, other times they don't. ;-) words like strut and juvenile are inflammatory, right? Practice what you preach?
But, if you are sincere about both improving, let's do it. Maybe we can react with PMs to each other before posting juvenile attacks like we both did?
Just be aware of what I've said here as I've said it about 50 times now. I truly do not care what you think of me, my faith, my actions, etc.... Because you seem to have your own impressions of all this that you like to gossip about in your PM's. I know why you are mad. I know why you feel like I'm judgmental. I'm not ignorant or blind to any of that. So, just continue along those lines. Because I have little time or, the mental fortitude to debate what you turn every debate we've had, into.
I'm not trying to be mean. I'm not trying to be hard hearted. I'm just well aware that life is too short to try and spend my time talking with people that have no intentions of doing so without feeding their ulterior motives.
You take care. I wish you no harm. I'm just not going to participate in your games of folly. Good night and God Bless
I did not send you a PM. I would not again as I said the last time. As I said above you are a phony. I also am not trying to be mean, just point blank honest.
You are a blind man. On this thread I was the second person who wrote shut up, but as always you only challenge someone who disagrees with you. I learned that in our exchanges, both open and in PMs. You cannot change, and yes I am convinced your beliefs allow you to be judgmental of others while being blind to your own faults. We do not debate Justin, you take a personal shot like you did on this thread, a shot which has nothing to do with the discussion. When challenged back you play victim, yet Trump your hero gets a free pass for not letting challenges go unanswered. You are one of the most inconsistent individuals I read here, belittling people and then pretending you are not being mean.
I assume no one I know only except over a forum really cares what any one thinks. You should assume the same.
I sincerely wish you no harm as well, I will respond to your cheap shots, again, I recognize you cannot help it. And I cannot help standing up to bullies.
And you accuse me of being arrogant, egotistical, and thinking I'm the "smartest guy in the room?"
How rich is that?
FWIW, and I mean this sincerely so take it for what you will. Land conservancies and land trusts are quite common these days, and I have a number of clients that have worked with them. While I'm not an expert I know enough about them to know that just based on what you have posted about them in this thread, it is clear, at least to me, that you would be wise to do a little more research before making a decision either way.
Kevin, my biggest concern is that my farm, even left in a conservation trust, may prove futile due to surrounding farm practices, multiple pipelines etc. that can cause the habitat to become fragmented. If so, our goal of leaving it to benefit wildlife would become marginalized.
Maybe that offers insight into many factors being considered.
Again, I claim no expertise, but am aware of land going through this process by close friends of more than 20 years.
I guess I will admit my shot back about a retail CFP was fueled by your economics comments. See, exactly the reaction I keep pointing out Trump gets.
Your shots about my knowledge being "Google based" and accepting advice from a "retail CFP" are actually quite telling, and they say much more about you than they do me. They didn't bother me in the least.
You rail about others making incorrect assumptions, yet you have no problem doing exactly that. It's obvious that you don't know nearly as much about me as you think you do. But then again, why would you? Unless you know someone personally, you only know the persona that you see here. Just like the rest of us. Just don't act like you are above all that.
As an aside, I always get a kick out of people who try to disparage others with the "Google knowledge" reference. Really? Facts are facts, regardless of where they are found.
I respect a person that researches things in any way they can. Quite frankly, the CF is proof positive that a lot of people would be well served to use Google A LOT more than they do. Google is the encyclopedias and textbooks of this generation. There is nothing that you teach your students, or that I advise my clients that cannot be found on Google...nothing. I have no problem admitting that.
You are welcome to have the last word on this one Frank. For me, unless someone wants to actually discuss the SOTU speech, this thread has run it's course.