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Officer exposed to suspected fentanyl
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Hawkarcher 05-Mar-19
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Woods Walker 05-Mar-19
Two Feathers 05-Mar-19
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BIG BEAR 06-Mar-19
Grey Ghost 06-Mar-19
HA/KS 06-Mar-19
Hawkarcher 07-Mar-19
From: Hawkarcher
05-Mar-19

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From: Hawkarcher
05-Mar-19
My home town.

From: Woods Walker
05-Mar-19
Probably came here through Mexico. Nice.

From: Two Feathers
05-Mar-19
Scary shit,

From: Woods Walker
06-Mar-19
Cops don't get paid NEAR enough!

From: BIG BEAR
06-Mar-19

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I am in training today and they passed out these.

From: Grey Ghost
06-Mar-19
Not to discount the dangers LE officers face daily, but something sounds fishy about this story.

I was curious about the possibility of inhaling enough airborne fentanyl to cause an overdose. First, I found that a lethal dose is generally considered around 2 milligrams. Then I found an article by the Medical College of Toxicology that stated:

"Industrial producers of fentanyl use time-weighted average occupational exposure limits (OEL-TWA) for alfentanil (1 mcg/m3? ?), fentanyl (0.1 mcg/m3? ?), and sufentanil (0.032 mcg/m3? ?) to limit exposure [17]. At the highest airborne concentration encountered by workers, an unprotected individual would require nearly 200 minutes of exposure to reach a dose of 100 mcg of fentanyl.". (see link)

https://www.acmt.net/_Library/Positions/Fentanyl_PPE_Emergency_Responders_.pdf

100 micrograms is 0.1 milligrams. So, if my math is correct, someone would have to be exposed to airborne fentanyl for 4000 hours to inhale a lethal 2 milligram dose.

It seems unlikely that the officer inhaled enough fentanyl to cause the reaction stated in this report. I suspect he did something stupid, like stick his finger in the powder to taste it, or he smelled the stuff at close range and basically snorted it up his nose.

BTW, I'm certainly no advocate of opiates, but I understand how people can get hooked on the stuff. I recently broke 5 ribs and punctured a lung. The docs inserted a tube into my chest to drain the blood that was collecting in my chest cavity. When they removed the tube, 4 days later, they gave me fentanyl for the procedure. I didn't even feel the tube being removed. Afterwards, I felt great. No pain, lots of energy, and generally in a good mood. The nurses warned me that wouldn't last long. Sure enough, about 4 hours later, I was in miserable pain again. The stuff is dangerously affective for pain relief.

Matt

06-Mar-19
I'm an advocate of opiates! I can not imagine what it would feel like after some of the orthopedic surgery I have had without them.

From: HA/KS
06-Mar-19
SA when I had my knee surgery I called the morphine pump my magic carpet. It must be horrible to be addicted.

06-Mar-19
But GG. What if it was carfentanyl instead of just fentanyl? white powder is white powder. If I was LE I'd be carrying a bunch of those damn antidotes.

From: Hawkarcher
07-Mar-19
I’m curious to hear a LEO opinion on this. This one had to have done more than be in its presence obviously. The perp seemed to be fine.

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