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Liberals are some mentally depraved units of measurements.
The Rock
Dino's couldn't, Ice Age mammals couldn't, Renaissance Europeans couldn't, and neither can we.
I expect our lake level to raise 60'.
Now that is an absolute and truthful "play on words". ;-)
The Rock
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Yes because warmer weather always causes higher wildlife mortality rates and less food being available in the environment.
It's a mess.
Matt
They got dozens of offers of tractors if they need them. Many openly posted their phone numbers for all to see.
Farm people are great people. If you have never had the privilege of living in rural (real) America, you should try it some time.
Real America is all of it! But, keep practicing that divisiveness learned from Trump. That's the Christian way to live, right?
Come on man
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Henry never said otherwise.
"Try being open minded"
Henry is one of the most open minded persons on the CF.
Drink some coffee, Frank, you are not thinking straight today.
Real America is all of it. Saying rural America is real America implies something to most, but maybe not biased folks.
Go back and read the windmill thread, Henry is not open minded, IMO.
HDE, it did begin with them and him, but it takes two to tango, or tangle;-)
Back to the rural comment, farmers with tractors. The least they can do is help pull people out with the equipment they were able to purchase via a couple of huuuge wealth redistribution schemes- crop subsidies and ethanol!
I guess that 'aw shucks, Gomer Pyle' routine works on many, but not those of us who recognize rural people are just like city folk, out to take care of themselves. Adam Smith sure was right, and he published his work in 1776, when we were all rural. Dang factoids, smugness :-)
I spent all morning shoveling my drive down to the gate....about 300 yards. I had 36" drifts in certain spots and only a few inches in others. It was some of the wettest/heaviest snow I can remember. Thank God for my New Holland tractor with a front-end loader. I love that machine.
I still haven't seen a single vehicle on the county road. When the county plows go by, I'll hop on my tractor and go help my neighbors dig out, as I always do after the bigger storms. I really enjoy plowing snow, actually.
For the record, Frank, rural folks rock. Citidiots are..well..citidots. ;-)
Matt
However, if you have never been part of a true rural community you have no concept of how the people who live there interact with and look out for each other.
I very much am part of a rural community. And unlike you, I just didn't spend a long weekend in a city. I grew up in one, a very ethnic one. And folks always helped each other out, whenever they needed it.
I am not trying to be a jerk, it is just my perception that sometimes you base comments with little experience on something. A weekend is not going to allow you to see much. We have owned our farm since 2007. I spent as much time there as at our rural home in KS.
I posted here I was invited to a birthday party by a farmer family that we have become great friends with. It was a high honor. I have learned that they have the same family and neighbor squabbles as any where, but just like my experience on the east side of Cleveland, those are all forgotten in time of need. Watch how many people leave the big cities and head to a natural disaster to help out. Watch the news when hurricanes hit the east coast. Good people are good people. Country life is different than city, but they both have their good and bad.
My wife and I moved from the Boulder area to rural central Colorado in 2000. As I was building our dream home, I'd periodically have to drive to the top a nearby hill to make phone calls due to poor cell service. Inevitably, strangers passing by would stop and ask if I needed help while I was parked and making my calls. That would never happen in the city, and it reinforced that I had truly found home.
On other occasions, we had neighbors, who we hadn't met yet, leave welcoming gifts in our mailbox. Again, rare behavior in the city, but common in the sticks.
Lastly, when my wife and I leave for a weekend trip somewhere, we leave our house doors unlocked, in case the neighbors need something, and they do the same. I doubt anybody does that in the city.
There is definitely a difference between how rural and city folks interact. Yes, I'm a bit biased.
Matt
Matt, Robin and I have built 3X. Twice in the city, once in a rural community. All three times we were inundated with food/gift certificates etc. from neighbors.
My tractor at home only has a blade on it, the one at the farm has a bucket. Since my back surgery several years ago I have never cleared my driveway of snow. No one on our cul-de-sac has to. One neighbor does it all.
I can remember in the city when someone took gravely ill. That family did not have to worry about preparing meals, or taking kids to school etc. Sure, there are differences, some being getting to know all of the neighbors in the city is a time challenge. And no doubt others as you point out. But the city is not full of idiots. Every time someone in my rural area has a health problem, that's the first place they head.
I hope you know I have no contempt for city dwellers. I was an urbanite for 38 years, in both Denver and Boulder, after all. That said, I find country folks generally more friendly, approachable, generous and gracious. That's just my experiences, your mileage may vary.
Matt
I'd be in a coffin if I did 100 yards of this mush with a shovel. I've done it with powder, trust me, but not with this stuff.
Matt