'Ike' (Phone)'s Link
'Ike' (Phone)'s Link
Let’s hear it Spike Bull....... What do you have to say ??? Come on all you Muslim haters..... What have you got to say ??? Are you going to ignore this thread because you don’t particularly like the victims ?????
Pure evil comes in all races and all religions....... This was pure evil.
Apparently,,, He live streamed the attack on Facebook. It was the worst mass attack in the history of the country.
Woods Walker's Link
I'm not keeping score. I think it would be safe to say murder in the name of Islam is way ahead of everyone else. The only exception would be the Holocaust.
So you’re saying the 99.999999% of Muslims that don’t become terrorists aren’t following the Quran?
Woods Walker's Link
If you want to kiss their a** and buy into their BS go right ahead. All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11.
Some of the stuff posted here only breeds hate......
HA/KS's Link
"According to his manifesto, the shooter — who massacred civilians at two mosques in New Zealand’s city of Christchurch — appears to subscribe to a number of ideologies. The document is riddled with white nationalist talking points, and the shooter describes himself as a “fascist.” He also castigates Muslims as “the most despised group of invaders in the west.”
Yet elsewhere in the document, the shooter describes himself as a socialist, “depending on the definition.” The shooter also declares his support for “environmentalism,” “worker’s rights,” and “responsible markets.”"
Will's Link
slade's Link
I wonder if there will be as much outrage from the left wing when the next Muslim terrorist attack occurs?
— Senator Fraser Anning (@fraser_anning) March 15, 2019
Most likely silence and talk about “lone wolf attacks, mental illness and no connection to Islam”.
Will any left wingers condemn this? pic.twitter.com/PQo439pUyX
— Senator Fraser Anning (@fraser_anning) March 15, 2019
slade's Link
New Zealand Shooter Hopes for U.S. Civil War: ‘Conservatism Is Dead, Thank God’
I dunno, but based on his ramblings he was more aligned with the left than the right.
That is a bit of a stretch. I only see one immigrant from australia to NZ that killed 49 people - and he wasn't muslim.
I agree with Brotsky - "Christian extremists aren’t any different than Islamic extremists."
Annony Mouse's Link
And yet, somehow, one story gets much more coverage/publicity than the other.
Trying to put a tag on the guy relative to ideology is easy for everyone. If you like to hate people, he's your guy. If not... The dude was a radicalized nut case who did a tremendously horrific deed.
This is NOT a L-C issue. It's an A-Hole killed a bunch of people issue.
Stay strong New Zealand!
Sad that you live for these moments of tragedy and horror for political capital. I myself view Muslims with a hairy eyeball and I admit that and will not back off of that personal conviction. Ask the question which has led me to that conviction. I did not awake one morning and say I do not trust Muslim's, nor did I awake and say I want them all dead.
No one is keeping score BB. Nobody wins when these acts of horror takes place. Nobody. When you constantly intercede on the behalf of one people and sing their praises, people have committed atrocities unheard of, YOU are creating the prejudice that hear and see. Don't blame anyone else for being human and their reactions when they reference barbaric historical events by a people that have shaped our idea of who they are. Sad. Yes. That's just the way it is and history continues to prove it.
The Rock
No score keeping here Rock...... Every time a heinous murder occurs...... It is committed by my enemy.
HA/KS's Link
A history of violence, relationships with criminals, a repeated involvement with drugs, or irresponsible consumption of alcohol are some of the reasons why someone might be denied a licence."
"Carrying a gun is only permitted for those with a "lawful, proper, and sufficient purpose", such as hunting, pest control or sports shooting. Self-defence is not considered a reason to have a gun."
When the queen is still "head" of your country it makes perfect sense. It's that whole subjects vs citizens thing.
KSflatlander's Link
“Tarrant, believed to be from the New South Wales city of Grafton, espouses far-right and anti-immigrant ideology in the document. He claims he had brief contact with the Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik, who gave his blessing to the attack.”
I’m not at all saying all those in the right are colored by this evil person but the hypocrisy runs deep in the CF. Don’t you think JTV, TD, Woods Walker, slade?
Where you at KPC? I thought you call out all BS on the CF? I guess you missed this one. Must be too busy arguing with HFW. That’s ok I got this one.
As media outlets across the world bring you the minute-by-minute updates of the Christchurch mosque shooting in New Zealand, those same outlets have been mostly silent on the recent mass slaughter of Christians in Nigeria by muslim herdsmen. Those attacks have resulted in 120 dead and 140 homes burned to the ground.
Christchurch Killer: Nation with Closest ‘Values to My Own Is the People’s Republic of China’
"My name is Ethan and my mother needs insulin"
How many other Facebook accounts have you hacked today scumbag?
This guy was emboldened to do this because anti Muslim rhetoric is in vogue now on the extreme right. I’m not saying at all that all those in the right are colored by this evil person. But if you are pushing the anti Muslim crap and generalizing around here then you align more with this guy than the majority of those on the left...including me.
You don’t get to rewrite history and blame this on the left. Blame the victims, deny science if the results don’t suit you beliefs, push conspiracy theories (but I was just posting information...BS), use fear and hate to drive your agenda. That is the hallmark of fascism. If this angers you and stings a bit then good...it was directed at you. Some here are filled with hateful ignorance.
Lastly, Slade I let you off the hook the last time you called me a liar. You made a complete fool of yourself and then had the audacity to blame me for your accusation (wind turbine thread). I turned the other cheek thinking that maybe you learned a lesson. Or that maybe by me not calling you out that you would take it as an olive branch. Nope...your that guy and call me a liar again here. One word describes you...COWARD.
While the government should attempt to protect from attacks by enemies (even with deadly force when necessary), it is not the job of individuals to do so unless they are at the command of the government.
Mosques around the world are harboring terrorists, but that is probably not the case with most of them and we certainly have heard nothing that says these mosques were anything but worship centers. Even if they were involved in terror activities, many of the people attacked were not.
As I stated earlier on this thread, the person responsible for the attacks is just a nut case. He also dropped lots of names in his incoherent and rambling writings. I doubt he had a political ideology any more coherent than his writing. He did seem to be more supportive of socialism in its various forms, but I would not blame socialists (or social media) for this attack.
How is this not an accurate statement. He did a lot of name dropping of people in and out of world politics which has nothing to do with his statements in support of socialsim.
As far as Muslim extremists and Christian extremists they would be the same if they killed people in the name of their god. I only hope and pray that the amount of Muslim extremists gets down to the level of the Christian extremists that kill.
tonyo6302's Link
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"Open Doors says each month more than 300 Christians are killed for their faith, more than 200 churches or Christian properties are destroyed, and almost 800 acts of violence are committed against Christians"
Hint: Christian deaths do not meet the litmus test of the Main Stream Media
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2016/april/why-no-one-cares-about-the-campaign-of-death-against-christians
tonyo6302's Link
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http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2019/march/radical-muslims-murder-32-nigerian-christians-torch-church-in-brutal-attack
If this act were aided or supported by ANY group or ideology I would support hunting them down and stopping them and see they are removed from civil society however necessary.
Can you can point to any group that aided or supported this? Trump's fault?
Some people are blaming white Christians for this nut job? All white Christians I have talked to.... to a person..... want justice for the evil he has done. Most say, yeah.... fry the evil bastard. OK.... we got nothing there.... but their "hate" speech is the cause?
Vigilance as to a threat is no more hate than a police officer carrying a firearm is "hate" for his community. He's sworn to protect his community from danger and harm..... not hate them. (some will accuse them of hate as a group for just one bad apple regardless) And they should be aware of suspicious activity..... and yeah, profiling to a degree I would think. If someone or some group is sworn to kill you.....and has already done so by the thousands, is it to be ignored? If there is a group sworn to kill all muslims.... they should be dealt with in kind as well. I see no reason to give anyone any passes for such actions.
If one wanted to debate or compare the support and reaction of various religious ideologies, cultures actually... to terrorist acts... by all means, that is a discussion that can be held. But facts are, insane people do insane things..... by definition. Look at the Los Vegas shooting..... after all this time, still no clue as to why. And certainly not supported or aided by any groups I'm aware of anyway. Or any ideology other than psycho. Was Jim Jones considered an organized group or just a psycho when he murdered all his followers.... a one man "group" you might say. Who or what "caused" him to do such things? No social media, no video games, no Islamic extremism, not even any guns..... why?
Trying to assign a "why" to such things is the natural reaction.... to a sane person..... sometimes there IS no other reason other than sanity is not applicable.....
These people definitely hated others..... and in insane minds they mostly just look for ways to justify their hate and their actions.
Due process, eliminate them from society. Fry him. Guess that makes me what some here would call a "right wing extremist" for, um.... let me get this straight... for wanting justice against what some are calling a right wing extremist......
I believe Henry was highlighting perspective to sensational media coverage. Forty nine dead in one place at the hands of one man does not super cede forty nine dead in another by a group intent and planning future acts of terrorism, to kill scores of other innocent people on a continuous basis. The one demented sole actor has been removed and will be no more. The same can not be said for a terror org. that has replacements standing in wait to fill the shoes of their fallen Muslim barbaric brothers to carry out and enforce the holy words of the Koran.
The two are completely separate in regards to dangerous and imminent future acts of violence in its planning and blueprinted stage as we speak.
Would you agree BB?
The Rock
Rocky's Link
"To be clear, I would never attend a church that fails to condemn attacks like this one - though I also don't want the church to spend too much time and energy on every individual tragedy worldwide.
While the government should attempt to protect from attacks by enemies (even with deadly force when necessary), it is not the job of individuals to do so unless they are at the command of the government.
Mosques around the world are harboring terrorists, but that is probably not the case with most of them and we certainly have heard nothing that says these mosques were anything but worship centers. Even if they were involved in terror activities, many of the people attacked were not."
As for your statement about "The guys who we are at war with." I think it should be a declared war, not a police action.
"Radical Islamic Terrorists". Absolutely agree. The problem becomes heightened In America that a particular sect in alarming numbers allows themselves to be radicalized and indoctrinated at such a young age so easily, with a burning desire of hate for the West. The horrendous acts they commit are so deeply ingrained, that Americans, generally speaking, find themselves in knee jerk protective mode. The human condition is conditioned by humans, and the social interaction and response becomes mandatory to survival, the video of beheading and cages of fire dancing in our heads.
The Rock
Agenda much?
""Black Lives Matter. Except when they’re Christian and happen to be living in Nigeria""...
Disturbing footage reveals how accused Christchurch mosque gunman beeped his car horn to get Muslim worshippers' attention 'before opening fire on them'
Even though Trump and the NRA sold out gun owners, at least we are not NZ yet. Hard to kill 2A that easily, and the ATF rule only sets the stage for a semi-auto ban....Hopefully courts will shoot it down soon like 0bama's unconstitutional BS.
Having something taken away when you did nothing wrong? Bullshit.
Nope, but we would have two liberal judges on SCOTUS which would be just as bad...