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Maybe Jason wants to buy some of the tags Don is robbing from the public allotments?

They ruined Utah for the average Joe and are trying hard to get into bed with a few Idaho legislators. Disgusting wildlife model for me and I will always vote against SFW ideals.

As far as the sidebar discussion regarding Idaho...I'm hoping for my kids sake SFW stays out of Idaho. The fact that Idaho has stayed off the assult is a reason I go there. I have already resigned to the fact that SFW is a diseased tick so deep in a Utah fat fold they wont get out. Even if they are pulled out the sportsmen in Utah are still left with a debilitating illness and permanent damage.

When questioned about his connection with Don Peay, he replied, "His focus is on what is best for all hunters. I would like to learn more of why Don Peay is not a friend of the average hunter? From what I know of him he is just the opposite."

Jason

Look at the Utah governor's statement. He is clearly in bed with SFW too. He could end up looking bad there if that can of worms gets pried open any further.

Tough spot to be in, but we all have to make choices, including who to support and how/when to take a stand.

When questioned about his connection with Don Peay, he replied, "His focus is on what is best for all hunters. I would like to learn more of why Don Peay is not a friend of the average hunter? From what I know of him he is just the opposite."

Jason "

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And when presented with that information, he stuck his head in the sand and started deleting any more posts regarding SFW. As Wild1 posted, a tough spot for sure.

Hariston's perception of reality regarding BGF and the Wolf delisting is stunning (quote below), assuming he has even rudimentary research skills. SFW/BGF were on the other side of the Simpson/Tester Rider and went so far as to send letters appealing for it's defeat. But, in true BGF fashion, as soon as the Bill was passed they sent out their mass emails claiming victory and asking for more money. Hariston asked for info and got it. What he does from that point is up to him. SFW also fought hard to kill the stream access bill in UT.

"Jason Hairston January 27, 2016 at 5:28 pm · Reply

Ted Lyon a Texas Trial attorney with a ranch in Montana wrote a book called The Real Wolf. Ted states clearly that Don and Big Game Forever were key players with many groups to get wolves delisted in Idaho and Montana, in fact Ted credits Ryan Benson CEO of BGF who is also a Harvard trained lawyer helped Congress put in the key provision that precluded judges from over ruling to delist wolves. Ted and Ryan were involved in the legal challenges to delisting in the Federal Court in Montana where Sportsman won and also in the 9th Circuit Court in San Francisco. I highly recommend reading this book. It gave me amazing insight to how wolves were delisted.

From what I know, please correct me if I was wrong which would not be first time, regarding stream access, Politics is about the art of the deal, there was a deal on the table where fisherman got access to 80% of the fish on streams. That seemed to be a good deal versus nothing, again from what I understand."

SFW is bad because they are taking tags from the average guys and selling them to the highest bidder in Utah?

I'm not taking sides, I'm just trying to understand it all. Thanks.

you summed up SFW pretty well............

Thanks to jingalls for starting this thread!

Side notes-The center of the universe for privatization effort is UT which also happens to be the center of SFWs universe. My state of NM runs a close second to UT as the privatization capital of the west. Its no wonder that one of our State Land Commissioners, Robert Espinosa, is a former SFW executive.

That, in a nutshell, sums up SFW's mission.

I'm gearing up for a caribou hunt for 17 and need light weight everything to make plane weight and would have dropped a couple thousand dollars with them over the next twelve months. I will regroup and look at Sitka and others. If somebody could steer me towards a good lightweight tent please PM me. Thanks guys!

Enter KUIU, or any other manufacturer that supports this type of organization, I want to make sure my dollars support our sport as a whole. Doesn't mean I have to like everything the owner of a company says for me to buy from them. But if that owner does in fact support organizations that are not in the best interest of our sport...then maybe I shouldn't spend $ with them?!

So...now...several of us are genuinely asking ? to figure this out! Please do not be a hit and run poster on this. If you have factual information on this please post it now!

Look, I've met and talked with Don Peay. He is a smart guy and understands how the political process works and how to get things done. That is self evident or this thread wouldn't exist. There isn't a person who posts on this site who doesn't stand a lot to learn from people like him which could be used to further the future of hunting (use the power for good so to speak).

I have little respect for conducting what is tantamount to an internet witch hunt for what not one poster knows is any more than that.

That reminds me of something my daughter would say. She often struggles with the nuanced aspects of life and understanding that in most instances there are usually three sides to every story: your story, their story, and the truth - which is usually somewhere in the middle. Rarely is it that absolute.

I truly hopes she learns to comprehend and appreciate these nuances ion life and I believe she will. She has time.

She's 8.

Move money and favors to gain influence, use the influence to gain more favors to turn into money, skim a sliver from each as they pass across the the desk, then justify it as being for the "greater good".

This is what makes the nuances of the political process so difficult to decipher.

This^

"Another Bowsite witch hunt. If only life was so black and white..."

...and this^

People are so quick to judge! I'm sure no one here has ever made a statement or taken a position that was possibly questionable?

They are currently allowed to keep 70% of the proceeds from the auction of 200 premium tags with no accounting. For many years prior it was 100%. 2007-2012 0% of $5,436,655 accounted for. 2013-2015 30% of $3,161,740 accounted for. So SFW has pocketed roughly $7.6 million dollars from our public resources with no accountability. This is wrong.

The Wildlife Board is the main wildlife policy making board in the state. There are seven members on this board. 4 of the 7 have direct ties to SFW, including 2 former SFW presidents. So you can imagine how those discussions go. One small group should not have this much influence.

SFW discovered long ago it is easier and more lucrative to get a few people to write big checks, rather than harass the masses for small ones. As such, SFW no longer represents the average hunter / angler, but rather the outfitters, guides and rich guys who want to have a nice dinner and pay five figures for their next hunt. This threatens our future as hunters.

In summary, SWF wants to use public resources to fund their efforts to obtain more auction tags and take away opportunity for the common hunter.

Honestly I don't know what the percentage is for SFW. Anybody here have a breakdown as to their actual "administrative" costs are? i.e. what they put in their pocket? That would shine a bit of light as to what shades we are talking about here...lighter ones or darker ones....

Another thing to consider is at what point does the number of tags used for "fundraising" purposes start to effect the opportunity of the..... less affluent hunters who aren't going to buy an auction tag? My understanding is Utah has pretty much crossed that line with both feet.... some would say they have leaped over it...

True, few things are black and white. And if it's tucked back hiding in the shadows it's hard to tell. But there are many things that when they come out into the sun are so dark or light they are easy to see what side of the spectrum they are on....

"Kuiu needs to address what's being alleged in forums such as this (link below) regarding Kuiu/Jason's support of SFW. I have two perspectives... (1) I'd hate to see a product/company I love get it's name drug through the mud on unfounded claims (2) If there is merit behind these accusations I will unfortunately be forced to purchase my hunting gear elsewhere.

Perhaps we, the average public land hunters, are off base in our assessment of SFW (seems tough to argue the 30% conservation dollar aspect, though)? If so, please set us straight and explain the financial/beneficial merit in terms of conversation in going with the SFW vs. the RMEF. Give us specifics, not generalities. Silence is not acceptable and ultimately will be viewed by your customers as Kuiu agreeing with it's association with SFW. Don't be like the CEO of SFW and refuse to conduct an interview with a news station. Set the record straight...where does Kuiu stand and why?"

See my link...

I agree that these tags can be of great value to wildlife. However, in Utah it has led to nepotism and loss of opportunity for hunters and anglers. This turning average sportsmen against the program. I suspect this is why RMEF and others are distancing themselves from SFW.

We all owe RMEF a big thanks for wading into this mess in Utah and exposing the DWR and SFW.

RMEF's proposal was to keep 0% of the raffle entry fee proceeds.

There are an additional 300+ "conservation" tags that are auctioned every year at various events across the state and elsewhere. I do not know the proceeds breakdown of those tags.

As I understand it the 300 conservation tags that are auctioned off to the highest bidders are not the issue. 90% of the proceeds for these tags are required to be spent on DWR approved projects. 10% is allowed to be used by SFW as they desire. This when done correctly can be a good thing for wildlife.

I've never understood why the other 200 raffle tags do not have this type of restriction. At first I thought it was just an oversight. But others have been trying to get the DWR to change this for years. So it is a known issue and has been for a long time. The only explanation is the DWR and SFW do not want the public to know where this money goes.

I hope you will let them know how you feel.

Pretty inefficient counterattack on SFW to boycott KUIU IMO

4 shot Hevis for the Witch

P.S. dem dang monkeys stay close too....

Thanks to the guys posting information and a big thanks for equipment help on clothes and camping gear!

Why write that Outfitter when it's a wholly owned subsidiary of SFW itself?!

I'm joining RMEF myself. I was very impressed with how they handled this situation. They are a model of transparency and do a lot of good for hunters.

As noted, Artic Red River Outfitters is owned by SFW.

Unless every dollar made was accounted for and, put back into the state organization, it is the definition of fraud. This isn't even debatable. It is crooked. It is wrong. It is politics at it's best.

If it takes clarification of ones blogs or, comments to cipher where they stand on this issue, then it should be obvious they are either confused or have ulterior motives.

God Bless men

Blaming ANY retailer for not being fully aware of this situation is ridiculous. Other sponsors of SFW include Cabelas, Sportsmen's Warehouse, Toyota, Midway, Hoyt, Barnes, RCBS and too many more to mention. They all benefit from marketing in conjunction with the Expo, and the sad truth is not many hunters yet understand the institutional corruption that SFW has brought to Utah Fish and Wildlife. It is still good marketing for Kuiu, and other retailers to market to sportsmen at this event.

I actually know and occasionally hunt with a couple high ranking Kuiu employees. I continue to educate them about SFW, and know one is very, very opposed to SFW, and will never support them. I've had fewer conversations with Jason, but his lukewarm endorsement of Don Peay does not seem unreasonable. Don is a salesman, first and foremost (if not an actual politician), and while I vehemently disagree with some of the tactics of SFW, he isn't the devil incarnate when you talk with him face to face. Most politicians do seem like nice guys, even when they are stabbing us in the back. That is, after all, how they get elected.

I think it is great that Bowsite members try to educate Jason and other retailers about SFW, their lack of transparency, and their poor record of seeing the funds they raise actually make it onto the ground. Starting a boycott campaign is wrong, however, and would include every major sporting goods retailer if you did your homework. I question if the OP had another motive in mind.

Bill

The rest of those companies see a fraction of their interests in the same and are not emblematic of the western hunter like KUIU. And we're talking about Utah.

So folks understand: 1) I have been a life member of RMEF for over a decade and a portion of every paycheck goes to them (and well as to the Wild Sheep Foundation both locally and nationally). 2) I believe SFW is a divisive factor and works against the best interest of the majority of hunters. 3) I wholeheartedly support auction and raffle tags as a way to raise funds to expand opportunity for the draw hunter, but Utah's allocation of raffle/auctions tags is a perversion of the system. 4) Midwest is a $#!+ disturber. ;-)

Peay is smart and I am not going to condemn anyone or refuse to buy their company's products because they agree. There is an old saying about keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.

If they financially support SFW....that is another matter altogether. But there is no proof or even convincing evidence of that in this thread.

Wow 500 hundred tags outside the draw process thats crazy in it self! Utah Time to clean house and start over!

Ok, Matt and Scoot...If the debate is a "no", how about a spelling bee?

There is a part of me that wants to keep that benefit for hunters, but there is a part of me that thinks that wildlife is benefited by a broader subset that understands the benefit of wildlife.

Why did SFW still get the Expo contract when RMEF offered to give 100% of the proceeds from tag sales back to Utah and hold the convention in Salt Lake City so those local businesses would not lose money?

Any "conservation" organization that takes a public asset and sells it for "conservation and habitat enhancement", but refuses to open their books to account for how those monies are spent doesn't deserve to be awarded public assets.

That's all I need to know about the merits of SFW.

"Blaming ANY retailer for not being fully aware of this situation is ridiculous. Other sponsors of SFW include Cabelas, Sportsmen's Warehouse, Toyota, Midway, Hoyt, Barnes, RCBS and too many more to mention. They all benefit from marketing in conjunction with the Expo, and the sad truth is not many hunters yet understand the institutional corruption that SFW has brought to Utah Fish and Wildlife. It is still good marketing for Kuiu, and other retailers to market to sportsmen at this event."

"I think it is great that Bowsite members try to educate Jason and other retailers about SFW, their lack of transparency, and their poor record of seeing the funds they raise actually make it onto the ground. Starting a boycott campaign is wrong, however, and would include every major sporting goods retailer if you did your homework. I question if the OP had another motive in mind."

Ulterior motives or not, it doesn't change the fact that 70% of the monies generated go unaccounted for. And, refusal to "account" for it really drives that reality home. God Bless men

Gerald, that isn't at all an answer to my question, but it is pretty obvious how this happened - cronyism. It is wonderful that this is out in the open, hopefully some good will come from this. UT should be shamed into giving the mandate to RMEF, and almost everyone would benefit

Am I correct in understanding that the financial sponsorship link referenced to above is to the Hunting Expo (which SFW is likewise a sponsor of) and not direct financial sponsorship of SFW. If that is the case, folks need to understand that is not the same thing.

Nothing said in support of SFW can rebut this fact. I cannot believe the good people of Utah have allowed this to go on for so long. It stinks to high heaven.

I do like your perspective and reasoning is sound. Way better to educate a leader of a company than to simply stop buying their products with no explanation. I think I will write several letters and see if I can help in some small way. Thanks!

That being said, KUIU's customer service and availability issues are enough for me to stay away. This is just another reason

This Bowsite thread has some information on who to contact:

http://forums.bowsite.com/TF/bgforums/thread.cfm?threadid=450881&messages=29&forum=36

"There is a part of me that wants to keep that benefit for hunters, but there is a part of me that thinks that wildlife is benefited by a broader subset that understands the benefit of wildlife."

A state's management of wildlife in the public trust is by definition not just for the benefit of hunters. Wildlife management SHOULD be driven by what is best for wildlife, not necessarily what is "best" for the interests of any group (including hunters)that utilize the resource.

Obviously, in real world application, those groups most heavily invested in the process get to influence how management occurs. Hunters in the 20th and 21st century have been at the fore front of conservation efforts because of a genuine desire to see wildlife flourish.

Historically, we have willingly borne the brunt of the cost of wildlife management in order to maintain a certain level of influence as to how wildlife is managed.

The North American Model of wildlife management takes into account the right/need for each citizen to have a sense of ownership and vested interest in how wildlife is managed. I think we all recognize the phenomenon of "I own it therefore I care about it" vs "That's not mine, I don't care what happens to it"

Regulated hunting has always benefited local economies and businesses that profit from hunters seeking their quarry. One thing I think is worth noting,this benefit to local business and communities happens when people from the community and from outside of the community access the game around a community. Thus the community has a vested self-interest to ensure the quality of wildlife management to keep hunters coming back. This is a good thing and makes people become passionate about stewarding the wildlife in their areas.

Contrast this with the Hunting Expo convention where people congregate in Salt Lake City to vie for the privilege of getting a license/permit to hunt an animal. One community benefits financially from controlling the ability of hunters to access an asset that belongs to everyone in the state. Not only that, but a very limited subset (SFW leadership) of that community benefits financially from the sale of a public asset. (permits to hunt)

The entity designated to manage wildlife in Utah (F&G Department) is funded by the sale of licenses and permits. Now, the commissioners of that department are giving a significant portion of the states assets to another group to sell and reap the benefits, depriving the F&G department of much needed funds to properly manage wildlife.

Those "conservation" tags are then sold/distributed to the highest bidder or a few lucky lottery winners who can't compete financially but are appeased with a small chance to win a tag. If I understand correctly, a lot of the tags are designated "must be present at the Expo to win" thereby insuring that the community of Salt Lake City retains a monopoly of benefiting from the sale of those tags.

This process of awarding tags directly and indirectly disenfranchises those who are part owners of the states wildlife but can't afford to bid competitively for the opportunity to harvest/kill the surplus.

Whether by design or default the North American Model which champions the idea that rich and poor have equal stake in all public trust assets is co-opted by the European Model which grants ownership of wildlife to those who own the property on which it resides. Those who can pay to play are granted access, those who can't pay are denied access. The logical result is those who can't play end up not caring about the management of wildlife and the end result is loss of opportunity for everyone who is not wealthy.

I believe that wildlife, hunters and everyone affected by wildlife, benefits in direct proportion to how many people care about how wildlife is managed. Enfranchising communities and letting them benefit from the hunting of wildlife or non consumptive access is a win/win for communities and wildlife.

However, entrusting the distribution of tickets to play the game (permits) to a select few who have demonstrated cronyism and refused to make themselves accountable is bad for wildlife and bad for those who benefit from sound wildlife management.

I don't think that vilifying Jason Hairston or boycotting Kuiu is going to be the most effective way of changing the culture of wildlife management in Utah. That is only going to happen when Utah residents become educated about what is happening and affect the changes themselves.

It would be interesting to see Randy Newberg's assessment of this.

About section of website: http://www.sfw.net/data/SFW-990-2013.pdf

Tax Return: http://www.sfw.net/data/SFW-990-2013.pdf

Out of there "Expenses" catagory on line 24 c It has Big Game habitat improvement $184,588 then there's line d mule deer study, $106,431.

That's $291,019 out of $4,189,948

That my friend is 7% of revenue that made it on the ground.

Further down on Schedule F you will find in expenditures where 11 "Employee's" of SFW went to Whitehorse Canada spent $888,000 dollars of those Donations for a hunt.

Thanks for making them look so good.

They own an outfitting business in Canada for Christs sake that they bought with "Donations".

Really,? Come on man!!!!!

Anything I would say would probably be discounted as biased, for the following reasons.

1. I, and others, spent many months in the winter of 2010-2011 fighting against SFW as they tried to kill the delisting bill that got us wolf hunts in MT and ID. I will never forgive them for that. Thankfully, they are completely inept at national level politics, so they got their political teeth handed to them and MT and ID are still hunting wolves.

2. Don Peay, founder of SFW, challenged me to a televised debate in the summer of 2012. I jumped through every hoop he requested. I did two months of research, including interviewing former SFW Board Members. Finally, Peay withdrew and the debate was cancelled, much to my disappointment. In that process of preparation, I learned more about SFW than I really needed to know. Given the phone calls I've received from agencies investigating the UT DWR award of the Expo contract, I cannot go into any further detail.

3. I sit on the Board of Directors of RMEF and I was involved in the RMEF Expo bid. I have been involved in RMEF's decision to let it drop and not litigate, even though the evidence provided by attorneys has shown that the best gift UT DWR ever received from RMEF is when RMEF decided to let "Utah be Utah" and move forward with a focus on our very important conservation mission and ignore the legal options that are available.

4. I have been using Sitka Gear since it came out, even when Jason was at the company. I bought mine for use by me and guest hunters, at retail, for the first few years, But now being a Sitka brand ambassadors, my comments would probably be viewed as brand competition.

I'll add a few of my own opinions, not a position of any group I am associated with, below. Take them for what they are worth.

A couple points are worth mentioning. A Form 990 Tax Return is very unreliable for any purpose, other than to see if the organization filed a return. Our CPA firm prepares many of those returns. As the Finance Committee Chairman of RMEF, I see the RMEF Form 990. A lot of discretion is allowed in allocation of costs on Form 990.

If you really want to see what an organization is doing with your money/assets, ask for a copy of their audited financial statements. Governmental and Non-Profit auditing standards require outside auditors to audit your program activities and report on such. Only then will you see the true use of expenditures by program. When I was researching SFW in preparation for the debate with Don Peay, SFW had declined to subject their financial statements to an outside audit by CPAs, so you cannot make a determination of their program expenditures, whether they are performing very well or very poor.

RMEF does subject itself to this process of outside audit of all programs, internal controls, etc. RMEF posts that auditors report, a report from one of the largest non-profit CPA auditing firms in the country, on their website for public inspection. People looking at the RMEF expenditures should use that audited financial statement, not the Form 990.

As for the original post about KUIU supporting SFW, I have this thought. Jason got where he is by being an astute business person. Sometimes, business decisions are made without complete information, or worse yet, incorrect information. Seeing Jason's success to this point, I suspect if his interactions with SFW were what mine have been and resulted in the level of understanding of the SFW operation that has come from my engagement in these topics, it is my opinion that a smart business guy like Jason would take his KUIU brand and do like many of the other brands in the hunting world have done; disassociate with SFW and all it represents.

I completely understand how some would discount my perspectives; perspectives that started as being hopeful a group like SFW would do good things in Utah, only to have that perspective changed as I have had political battles with them and their sister group, Big Game Forever, on many important western hunting issues, from wolves, to their effort to hijack state wildlife departments/commissions, to sage grouse, to stream access, to selling off the public lands, to .........

I would suggest all parties do their own research. Their is no shortage of information out there from which you can start forming an opinion. I suspect if Jason had time to do some of that research and did not have Don Peay in his ear, he would come to his own conclusions that would not be too far from some stated here.

My personal opinion, and strictly my opinion, is that SFW is a pox on the western hunting world. The welfare franchise model they have found in selling the public assets of Utah hunters, tags, is what funds their obstructionist activities in other states. Thankfully, every time they step outside the state of Utah, they step on their junk. Spending a lot of time interacting with the other larger non-profit hunting groups, I can assure you that my opinions of SFW are held by many leaders of other national hunting organizations that have had similar interactions with SFW when trying to advocate for national hunting interests.

That's as polite as I can be. I appreciate you asking, but it is best each person sort it out for themselves.

"Matt, you certainly don't know what your looking at. I've seen SFW's 990 forms and I don't think they have ever gone past the 30% mark. I don't know what your smoking but please save some for me. Out of there "Expenses" catagory on line 24 c It has Big Game habitat improvement $184,588 then there's line d mule deer study, $106,431.

That's $291,019 out of $4,189,948

That my friend is 7% of revenue that made it on the ground."

Maybe it's what I am smoking, but I don't understand what you are getting at. It sounds like you are criticizing me and then making the same point I made (or attempted to) - that $291K is not 89% of revenue - to support that criticism. Am I reading that right?

If people directed half that effort to emailing/contacting their legislatures maybe there would be some real changes.....

Just my 2 cents

Education on an issue is what gives people the information needed to take an informed position on a topic.

Civil discourse and sharing of facts changes a lot more peoples minds than you might assume.

It takes people willing to type those long paragraphs, to educate those that don't know. Besides, how in the heck are you going to ask you senator for something unless you know the facts of the situation you contact them about?

Thanks Randy. For everything. Especially the detailed accounts of your gained knowledge. It brings clarity to a lot of topics. God Bless

You are right. Little to none goes for real on the ground activities.

I was referring to all the long winded "educated" opinions of the many arm chair experts who think their opinion constitutes fact and can't wait to tell everyone the same.

The Internet is such an interesting tutorial on human nature. Hunt hard and be safe everyone...

Sounds like you are one of those guys with a bumper sticker reading, "I believe it. That settles it!"

I also read newspapers from the Left and the Right almost every day for the same reason.

Anyway, I do my own research and form my opinions based on fact, personal knowledge, and experience. I suggest others do the same (as most of you probably do, although clearly some do not)

I admit I do not know the background of most on this site. Of course most don't know mine either so..

My advice, take everything on the Internet with a grain of salt and be your own person.

I don't imaging you appreciate the irony in that comment considering the content of your post from last night.

Never claimed to be an expert or educate anyone else but I respect and appreciate your opinion regardless. Take care

But none the less, I'll just TRY and keep this, um... short.... heheheheh....

"Big Fin for President!" my understanding is he does have large enough hands..... =D

Sometimes a sentence is too long for me. :)

I would normally try and clarify what I said so it could be more easily understood but to be honest it's too nice out and I'd rather be outside with my kids.

Later gents

"Hi Russ,

I really appreciate you reaching out and bringing this to my attention. I apologize for the delayed response as I was hunting over the weekend and did not have access to email. I read the comments this morning on Bowsite questioning KUIU’s financial support of SFW.

KUIU’s only financial support of SFW is as an exhibitor at the Expo. KUIU pays the same rates as every other exhibitor. We also donates a set of gear each year to be auctioned or raffled. We do the same at WSF and SCI and other conventions we are an exhibitor. Most other exhibitors donate items at these conventions as well.

I hope my response will answer the questions that have been raised about KUIU and my support of SFW.

I would appreciate it if you would post my response on the thread. I would respond but we are not a sponsor of the site and Pat does not allow companies who are not sponsored participate on the site, which I have to respect. If there are any additional questions or concerns by you or those on Bowsite let me know and I am more than happy to answer them.

Thank you for your business and support of KUIU. If there is ever anything I can do for you please let me know.

Sincerely,

Jason"

I dont support SFW (other than being at the show) and would rather see the whole auction and raffle tag thing shrink but I wouldn't boycott a company just for being part of that show. Most exhibitors I know treat it as just another stop on the normal winter show circuit as they try and stay competitive in their market. I usually hear it referred to as the Mule Deer Foundation show.

A lot of companies there and a guy would be eliminating a bunch of popular companies if he wanted to not buy from anyone who attended that show.

That's what we were looking for. It sounds to me that they, like many, participate in the show to reach customers. SFW puts on the show so they have to deal with them. Thanks Guys!

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Species Area Condition Season Dates Bull Elk Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Page 1 of 8 Bull Elk Book Cliffs, Little Creek Roadless Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Cache, South Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Mt Dutton Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Desert Bighorn Sheep Henry Mtns/La Sal/San Juan/San Rafael, Dirty Devil Sept. 17–Dec. 31, 2016 Desert Bighorn Sheep Kaiparowits (Comb) Sept. 17–Dec. 31, 2016 Desert Bighorn Sheep San Rafael North/South Sept. 17–Dec. 31, 2016 D t Bi h Sh Desert Bighorn Sheep Statewide St t id S t 1 D 31 2016 Sept. 1 - Dec. 31, 2016 Desert Bighorn Sheep Zion (early) Sept. 17–Dec. 31, 2016 Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep Book Cliffs, South Nov. 1–Dec. 31, 2016 Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep Box Elder, Newfoundland Mtn (early) Oct. 29–Dec. 31, 2016 Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep Nine Mile, Range Creek (early) Nov. 1–Dec. 31, 2016 Wild Turkey Southern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Wild Turkey Southern Region Southern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016

Safari Club International www.safariclubutah.org

Species Area Condition Season Dates Antlerless Elk Central Mtns, Manti Any open units in the guidebook that include Central Mountains, Manti in the unit name Antlerless Elk Antlerless Elk South Slope South Slope Any open units in the guidebook that include South Slope in the unit name Any open units in the guidebook that include South Slope in the unit name Bear Central Mtns, Nebo Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Central Mountians, Nebo Unit during the 2016 season Bear Panguitch Lake/Zion Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Panquitch Lake/Zion Unit during the 2016 season Bison Henry Mtns, Hunter's Choice (late) Nov. 19–Dec. 1, 2016 Buck Deer Book Cliffs Muzzleloader Sept. 28–Oct. 6, 2016 Buck Deer Book Cliffs (North and South) Any Weapon Oct. 22–Oct. 30, 2016 Buck Deer Fillmore, Oak Creek LE Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/1 Buck Deer Fillmore, Oak Creek LE Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 10/06/16 Buck Deer Paunsaugunt Any Weapon Oct. 22–Oct. 30, 2016 Buck Deer San Juan, Elk Ridge Muzzleloader Sept. 28–Oct. 6, 2016 Bull Elk Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Central Mtns, Manti Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Mt Dutton Muzzleloader Sept. 26–Oct. 7, 2016 Bull Elk Southwest Desert Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Wasatch Mtns Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Cougar Central Mtns, Manti Limited Entry/Split Any open unit in the Central Mtns, Manti Area during the 2016-2017 season Cougar Plateau, Boulder Split Any open unit in the Plateau, Boulder Area during the 2016-2017 season Pronghorn Fillmore, Oak Creek Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Pronghorn Pine Valley Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Pronghorn Plateau, Parker Mtn Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Pronghorn West Desert, Riverbed Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Wild Turkey Central Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Northeastern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Southern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Page 1 of 8

Mule Deer Foundation www.muledeer.org

Species Area Condition Season Dates Antlerless Elk Cache Any open units in the guidebook that include Cache in the unit name Antlerless Elk Cache Any open units in the guidebook that include Cache in the unit name Page 2 of 8 Antlerless Elk Cache Any open units in the guidebook that include Cache in the unit name Antlerless Elk Central Mtns, Manti Any open units in the guidebook that include Central Mountains, Manti in the unit name Antlerless Elk South Slope Any open units in the guidebook that include South Slope in the unit name Antlerless Elk South Slope Any open units in the guidebook that include South Slope in the unit name Bear Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/ South Unit during the 2016 season Bear Wasatch Mtns, West Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Wasatch Mountians, West Unit during the 2016 season B kDuc eer Book Cliffs Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 B k Cliff Ch i f Rifl 10/22/16 10/30/16 A h 08/20/16 09/16/16 M 09/28/16 10/06/16 Buck Deer Book Cliffs Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer Fillmore, Oak Creek LE Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer Henry Mtns Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer Henry Mtns Muzzleloader Sept. 28–Oct. 6, 2016 Buck Deer La Sal, Dolores Triangle Choice of season Rifle 11/19/16 - 11/27/16 or Arch 11/05/16 - 11/18/16 or Muzz 11/30/16 - 12/08/16 Buck Deer Buck Deer Paunsaugunt Paunsaugunt Any Weapon Any Weapon Oct 22–Oct 30 2016 Oct. 22–Oct. 30, 2016 Buck Deer Paunsaugunt Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Buck Deer Paunsaugunt Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer Paunsaugunt Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer Paunsaugunt Muzzleloader Sept. 28–Oct. 6, 2016 Buck Deer San Juan, Elk Ridge Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer South Slo Buck Deer South Slope,Diamond Mtn An Diamond Mtn Any Weapon Oct. 22–Oct. 30 Oct. 22 Oct. 30,2016 Buck Deer South Slope, Diamond Mtn Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer South Slope, Diamond Mtn Muzzleloader Sept. 28–Oct. 6, 2016 Buck Deer Statewide Archery from Aug. 20 - Aug. 31 and ALW from Sept. 1, 2016 - Jan. 15, 2017 Buck Deer West Desert, Vernon Any Weapon Oct. 22–Oct. 30, 2016 Buck Deer West Desert, Vernon Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Buck Deer West Desert, Vernon Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer West Desert, Vernon Muzzleloader Sept. 28–Oct. 6, 2016 Bull Elk Beaver, East Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Cache, Meadowville Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Cache, North Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Cache, South Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Cache, South Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Cache, South Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Central Mtns, Manti Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Central Mtns, Manti Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Central Mtns, Manti Muzzleloader Sept. 26–Oct. 7, 2016 Bull Elk Central Mtns, Nebo Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Bull Elk Fillmore, Pahvant Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 B ll Elk Bull Elk Fillmore, Pahvant Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Fill P h t A W S t 17 S t 25 2016 N 12 N 20 2016 Bull Elk Fillmore, Pahvant Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk La Sal, La Sal Mtns Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Monroe Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk North Slope, Three Corners Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Page 2 of 8 Bull Elk Oquirrh-Stansbury Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Panguitch Lake Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Plateau, Boulder/Kaiparowits Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Plateau, Fishlake/Thousand Lakes Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Oct. 8 - Oct. 20, 2016 or Nov. 12 -Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Plateau, Fishlake/Thousand Lakes Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Bull Elk Plateau, Fishlake/Thousand Lakes Muzzleloader Sept. 26–Oct. 7, 2016

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Bull Elk San Juan Bull Elk Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk San Juan Bull Elk Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk South Slope, Diamond Mtn Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Oct. 8 - Oct. 20, 2016 Bull Elk South Slope, Diamond Mtn Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Oct. 8 - Oct. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Southwest Desert Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Wasatch Mtns Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Cougar Central Mtns Manti Central Mtns, Manti Limited Entry/Split Li mited Entry/Split Any open unit in the Central Mtns Manti Area during the 2016 2017 season Any open unit in the Central Mtns, Manti Area during the 2016-2017 season Cougar Statewide Any unit throughout the State during the 2016-2017 season Mountain Goat Beaver (early) Sept. 10–Sept. 25, 2016 Mountain Goat Ogden, Willard Peak (late) Sept. 26–Nov. 15, 2016 Mountain Goat Statewide Sept. 1 - Dec. 31, 2016 Pronghorn Cache/Morgan-South Rich/Ogden Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Pronghorn Pronghorn Cache/Morgan Cache/Morgan-South Rich/Ogden Rich/Ogden Any Weapon Any Weapon Sept. 17 Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Sept. 25, 2016

National Wild Turkey Federation www.nwtf.org

Species Area Condition Season Dates Bear La Sal Multi-season Any limited entry season in the La Sal Unit during the 2016 season Bear South Slo South Slope,Yellowstone Multi-season An Yellowstone Multi season Any limited entr limited entry season in the South Slo season in the South Slope,Yellowstone Unit durin Yellowstone Unit during the 2016 season the 2016 season Buck Deer Book Cliffs Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Buck Deer Book Cliffs (North and South) Any Weapon Oct. 22–Oct. 30, 2016 Buck Deer South Slope, Diamond Mtn Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer West Desert, Vernon Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Bull Elk Beaver, East Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 y p p p Bull Elk Mt Dutton Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Panguitch Lake Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Wasatch Mtns Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Cougar Chalk Creek/Kamas, East Canyon, and Morgan-South Rich Limited Entry Any open unit in the Chalk Creek/Kamas, East Canyon, and Morgan-South RichArea during the 2016- 2017 season Cougar Wasatch Mtns, Currant Creek and Wasatch Mtns,West Limited Entry Any open unit in the Wasatch Mtns, Currant Creek and Wasatch Mtns,West Area during the 2016- 2017 season Wild Turkey Central Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Central Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Central Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Central Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Central Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Northeastern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Northeastern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Southeastern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Southern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Southern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Page 3 of 8 Wild Turkey Southern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Southern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Wild Turkey Statewide April 1 - May 31, 2016 Page 4 of 8

Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation www.rmef.org

Species Area Condition Season Dates Antlerless Elk Cache Any open units in the guidebook that include Cache in the unit name Antlerless Elk Central Mtns, Manti Any open units in the guidebook that include Central Mountains, Manti in the unit name A tl l Elk Antlerless Elk Plateau Pl t A it i th id b k th t i l d Pl t i th it Any open units in the guidebook that include Plateau in the unit name Antlerless Elk Plateau Any open units in the guidebook that include Plateau in the unit name Antlerless Elk South Slope Any open units in the guidebook that include South Slope in the unit name Bear Beaver Spring, Summer, Fall Any limited entry season in the Beaver Unit during the 2016 season Bull Elk Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Muzzleloader Sept. 26–Oct. 7, 2016 Bull Elk Bull Elk Book Cliffs Little Creek Roadless Book Cliffs, Little Creek Roadless Any Weapon Any Weapon Sept 17–Sept 25 2016 Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Bull Elk Cache, South Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Cache, South Muzzleloader Sept. 26–Oct. 7, 2016 Bull Elk Central Mtns, Manti Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Central Mtns, Nebo Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk La Sal, La Sal Mtns Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Monroe An Bull Elk Monroe Any Weapon Sept. 17–Se . 17 Sept. 25,2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20 2016 or Nov. 12 Nov. 20,2016 Bull Elk Oquirrh-Stansbury Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Paunsaugunt Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Oct. 8 - Oct. 20, 2016 or Nov. 12 -Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Plateau, Boulder/Kaiparowits Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Plateau, Fishlake/Thousand Lakes Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Oct. 8 - Oct. 20, 2016 or Nov. 12 -Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk San Juan Bull Elk Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Southwest Desert Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 y p p p Bull Elk Southwest Desert Muzzleloader Sept. 26–Oct. 7, 2016 Bull Elk Wasatch Mtns Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Pronghorn Mt Dutton/Paunsaugunt, Johns Valley Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Pronghorn Pine Valley Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Pronghorn Southwest Desert Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Pronghorn Southwest Desert Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Pronghorn West Desert, Rush Valley Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Pronghorn West Desert, Snake Valley Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep Statewide Sept. 1 - Dec. 31, 2016 Wild Turkey Southeastern Region 04/09 - 04/28 & Youth Only 04/29 - 05/01 & Statewide 05/2 - 05/31/2016 Page 4 of 8

Sportsmen for Fish and Wildlife www.sfw.org

Species Area Condition Season Dates Antlerless Elk La Sal Any open units in the guidebook that include La Sal in the unit name Antlerless Elk La Sal Any open units in the guidebook that include La Sal in the unit name Antlerless Elk La Sal Any open units in the guidebook that include La Sal in the unit name Page 5 of 8 Antlerless Elk La Sal Any open units in the guidebook that include La Sal in the unit name Antlerless Elk Plateau Any open units in the guidebook that include Plateau in the unit name Antlerless Elk Plateau Any open units in the guidebook that include Plateau in the unit name Bear Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/ South Unit during the 2016 season Bear Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/ South Unit during the 2016 season Bear Book Cliffs, Little Creek Roadless Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek Roadless Unit during the 2016 season Bear C t l Mt M ti N th Central Mtns, Manti-North Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Central Mountains, Manti - North Unit during the 2016 seas M lti A li it d t i th C t l M t i M ti N th U it d i th 2016 on Bear Central Mtns, Manti-North Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Central Mountains, Manti - North Unit during the 2016 season Bear Central Mtns, Manti-South/San Rafael, North Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Central Mountians, Manti -South/San Rafael, North Unit during the 2016 season Bear Chalk Creek/Kamas/North Slope, Summit Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Chalk Creek/Kamas/North Slope, Summit Unit during the 2016 season Bear La Sal Multi-season Any limited entry season in the La Sal Unit during the 2016 season Bear La Sal Multi-season Any limited entry season in the La Sal Unit during the 2016 season S S Bear La Sal Multi-season Any limited entry season in the La Sal Unit during the 2016 season Bear Nine Mile Summer-Fall Any limited entry season in the Nine Mile Unit during the 2016 season Bear Plateau, Boulder/Kaiparowits Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Plateau, Boulder/Kaiparowits Unit during the 2016 season Bear San Juan Multi-season Any limited entry season in the San Juan Unit during the 2016 season Bear San Juan Multi-season Any limited entry season in the San Juan Unit during the 2016 season Bear San Juan San Juan Multi season Multi-season Any limited entry season in the San Juan Unit during the 2016 season Any limited entry season in the San Juan Unit during the 2016 season Bear San Juan Multi-season Any limited entry season in the San Juan Unit during the 2016 season Bear South Slope, Bonanza/Diamond Mtn/Vernal Multi-season Any limited entry season in the South Slope, Bonanza/Diamond Mtn/Vernal Unit during the 2016 season Bear South Slope, Bonanza/Diamond Mtn/Vernal Multi-season Any limited entry season in the South Slope, Bonanza/Diamond Mtn/Vernal Unit during the 2016 season Bear Statewide Any open unit during the 2016 season Bear W t h Mt W t Wasatch Mtns, West Multi-season Any limited entry season in the Wasatch Mountians, West Unit during the 2016 season M lti A li it d t i th W t h M ti W t U it d i th 2016 Bison Book Cliffs, Wild Horse Bench (Hunter's Choice) Dec. 3, 2016–Jan. 31, 2017 Bison Henry Mtns, Hunter's Choice (early) Nov. 5–Nov. 17, 2016 Bison Statewide Sept. 1 - Dec. 31, 2016 Buck Deer Book Cliffs Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Buck Deer Book Cliffs Muzzleloader Sept. 28–Oct. 6, 2016 Buck Deer Buck Deer Cache Crawford Mtn Cache, Crawford Mtn Muzzleloader Muzzleloader Nov 19–Dec 4 2016 Nov. 19–Dec. 4, 2016 Buck Deer Henry Mtns Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer North Slope, Summit Any Weapon Oct. 8–Oct. 20, 2016 Buck Deer North Slope, Summit Any Weapon Oct. 8–Oct. 20, 2016 Buck Deer North Slope, Summit Any Weapon Oct. 8–Oct. 20, 2016 Buck Deer North Slope, Summit Any Weapon Oct. 8–Oct. 20, 2016 Buck Deer North Slo Buck Deer North Slope,Summit An Summit Any Weapon Oct. 8–Oct. 20 Oct. 8 Oct. 20,2016 Buck Deer North Slope, Summit Any Weapon Oct. 8–Oct. 20, 2016 Buck Deer Paunsaugunt Muzzleloader Sept. 28–Oct. 6, 2016 Buck Deer San Juan, Elk Ridge Choice of season Rifle 10/22/16 - 10/30/16 or Arch 08/20/16 - 09/16/16 or Muzz 09/28/16 - 10/06/16 Buck Deer South Slope, Diamond Mtn Any Weapon Oct. 22–Oct. 30, 2016 Page 5 of 8 Buck Deer West Desert, Vernon Any Weapon Oct. 22–Oct. 30, 2016 Buck Deer West Desert, Vernon Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Buck Deer West Desert, Vernon Muzzleloader Sept. 28–Oct. 6, 2016 Bull Elk Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Book Cliffs, Bitter Creek/South Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Box Elder, Grouse Creek Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Page 6 of 8 Bull Elk Cache, Meadowville Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Cache, Meadowville Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Cache, Meadowville Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Bull Elk Cache, North Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Cache, North Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Cache, South Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Bull Elk Cache South Cache, South Archery Archery Aug 20 Sept 16 2016 Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Bull Elk Central Mtns, Manti Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Central Mtns, Manti Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Central Mtns, Nebo Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Central Mtns, Nebo Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk La Sal, La Sal Mtns Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Bull Elk La Sal La Sal Mtns La Sal, La Sal Mtns Muzzleloader Muzzleloader Sept 26 Sept. 26–Oct 7 2016 Oct. 7, 2016 Bull Elk Mt Dutton Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Mt Dutton Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Nine Mile, Anthro Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk North Slope, Three Corners Any Weapon Oct. 1–Oct. 14, 2016 Bull Elk Panguitch Lake Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Pan Bull Elk Panguitch Lake Muzzleloader Se Lake Muzzleloader Sept. 26–Oct. 7, 2016 26 Oct. 7, 2016 Bull Elk Paunsaugunt Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Oct. 8 - Oct. 20, 2016 or Nov. 12 -Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Paunsaugunt Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Bull Elk Paunsaugunt Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Plateau, Boulder/Kaiparowits Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Plateau, Boulder/Kaiparowits Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Bull Elk Plateau, Fishlake/Thousand Lakes Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Oct. 8 - Oct. 20, 2016 or Nov. 12 -Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Plateau, Fishlake/Thousand Lakes Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Oct. 8 - Oct. 20, 2016 or Nov. 12 -Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Plateau, Fishlake/Thousand Lakes Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Plateau, Fishlake/Thousand Lakes Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk South Slope, Diamond Mtn Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Southwest Desert Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Southwest Desert Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Southwest Desert Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Statewide Archery from Aug. 20 - Aug. 31 and ALW from Sept. 1, 2016 - Jan. 15, 2017 Bull Elk Wasatch Mtns Any Weapon Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Nov. 12 - Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk Wasatch Mtns Archery Aug. 20–Sept. 16, 2016 Bull Elk Wasatch Mtns Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Elk Wasatch Mtns Muzzleloader Sept. 26–Oct. 7, 2016 Bull Elk Bull Elk West Desert Deep Creek West Desert, Deep Creek Any Weapon Any Weapon Sept 17 Sept 25 2016 or Oct 8 Oct 20 2016 or Nov 12 Nov 20 2016 Sept. 17–Sept. 25, 2016 or Oct. 8 - Oct. 20, 2016 or Nov. 12 -Nov. 20, 2016 Bull Elk West Desert, Deep Creek Multi-season All Limited Entry Seasons Bull Moose Statewide Sept. 1 - Nov. 15, 2016 Bull Moose Wasatch Mtns/Central Mtns Sept. 17–Oct. 20, 2016 Bull Moose Wasatch Mtns/Central Mtns Sept. 17–Oct. 20, 2016 Page 6 of 8 Cougar Box Elder, Desert and Box Elder, Raft River Split Any open unit in the Box Elder, Desert and Box Elder, Raft River Area during the 2016-2017 season Cougar Central Mtns, Nebo and Central Mtns, Nebo-West Face Split Any open unit in the Central Mtns, Nebo and Central Mtns, Nebo-West Face Area during the 2016- 2017 season Cougar Mt Dutton Split Any open unit in the Mt Dutton Area during the 2016-2017 season Cougar Oquirrh-Stansbury and West Desert, Tintic-Vernon Limited Entry/Split Any open unit in the Oquirrh-Stansbury and West Desert, Tintic-Vernon Area during the 2016-2017 season Cougar Plateau, Fishlake Split Any open unit in the Plateau, Fishlake Area during the 2016-2017 season

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Utah Conservation Expo: 200 additional permits

Good luck, Robb

Utah landowner permits are not only to be used on the piece of land owned by the landowner, but for the whole unit in which they reside!

Not surprisingly, many of these landowner permits outside the CWMU program (another Utah can of worms) are donated back to the SFW to be auctioned off at their different banquets around the state by land owners and landowner associations.

For instance at the one and only SFW banquet I've ever been to, before the Hunt Expo started, the Pahvant Landowners Association donated a Pahvant LE Any Weapon Elk tag back to the SFW to be auctioned off at that banquet. It went for $28,000. All of which went directly into the coffers of the SFW, with no stings of any kind attached.

This is just another example of the type of thing the SFW 'gets done' in the state of Utah. It is the most corrupt/crony system ever setup in the history of wildlife management since the North American game model was adopted by virtually every state.

Just so you guys understand, Utah gives out more conservation, convention and unit wide landowner permits than all other states combined. SFW is not nor has it ever been for the best interest of the average sportsman or wildlife. It's sole purpose is self serving in skimming off the top of selling all of our public resources to the highest bidder.

Cheers, Pete

I think Jason at KUIU responded in an honest fashion. Seems plenty transparent to me. Dave

That said, read the entire thread for entertainment purposes and Randy you for sure had the absolute best post in the entire thing. If I could afford it I would up my RMEF membership to life based on that response alone.

Even more important was he mentioned Kuiu had done some testing on a "windshirt" for hunting!!! This product must happen!!! Please email Kuiu and let them know your feelings on this product, ...and SFW if you must. :-)

I appreciate that KUIU found a way to express themselves and their position with respect to financial tie-ins to SFW and the expo.

Conversely, the fact that SFW has completely lain low in this debate speaks volumes for their (lack of) integrity. They are basically being called inefficient at best and largely corrupt at worst, and do not bother to respond. Wow!

Randy made a well thought out position statement, and again, it speaks strongly to SFW's lack of integrity and unwillingness to even engage in a discussion about their bona-fides.

While we have all seen numerous examples of what has previously been referred to as internet witchhunts, this discussion/debate has germinated long enough for facts and points of view to be presented, and rebuttals, if they exist, to be made. Again, from SFW we hear...nothing.

What can we as sportsmen/women do to pressure the State of Utah to change their stance regarding providing SFW its uniquely privileged position? There have to be some champions within the legislature, some individuals with positions of influence, who can start the process of extracting Utah's wildlife management (and more specifically those who benefit from it) from this morass. I've had a pretty good perspective of government goings-on for decades, and it seems absurd that the debate about SFW is over for the next 5 years. With our help, it should only be beginning.

Many-many of the Habitat Projects are private land upgrades and fencing-----

Go figure on the 'Donated LO tag$ to auction off' and keep the full fee! Fair trade off for the LO.

Good luck, Robb

Obviously pimping KUIU would be a no-no, but does showing up to respond to allegations or just take on simple conversation require product endorsement?

Not sure what the rules are... Maybe Pat can chime in. Kuiu shut down their own forums last year so maybe they have just decided to stay in the background on these types of sites.

High-end, specialized backcountry gear is discussed and promoted on these very specialized forums. Has KUIU chimed in on the Rokslide forum?...Monster Muley's? Sponsor or no sponsor, a response would be appropriate. I cannot imagine Pat or any other moderator disagreeing with that opinion. What makes these forums valuable is dialogue.

Again, the decision to stay in the background will result in the company existing in the background...for the short time they are able to exist.

As for Kuiu's own forum my buddy had a problem with a piece of their gear. He posted about it and it was instantly deleted.

Social media can be both good and bad for companies. I personally believe Kuiu has had so much negative said about them in the past that it's easier to be quiet and not say anything then to lie or avoid questions. Kind of like SFW.

As for SFW that's a cancer that hopefully won't spread and gets cut out.

Disclaimer. I do own a Kuiu bino harness and like it.

He started his career off playing football and made it to the NFL level before having a bad injury. No one makes it there by accident.

Started a tiny little known company called Sitka with a friend that as we all know it is an outdoor clothing/gear juggernaut before something happened between the two and I'm not even going to speculate nor do I care because I wasn't there.

Next he has started a company named Kuiu that is in itself quite the company, and by posting all his videos and stuff his main passion being to make awesome equipment.

He hunts fanatically.

So, from the little that I know about him I can quickly derive that he is a motivated individual that must have a great work ethic, because that kind of success and over such a polar career change doesn't come easy. He's got to be intelligent, because you also don't have two different start-ups get that far by being an idiot. So already I'm beginning to like him. And he hunts hard, loves it with a passion just like the rest of us. So why in the world would such an intelligent person purposely do things that could endanger the future of hunting? I personally just wouldn't get my knickers in a knot over it even without digging through the dirty facts. Big picture just doesn't make sense. Even without knowing any more I could venture to guess that he has done more to HELP hunting that most of us have. A successful person like that with the passion he has for it, I can pretty much just go ahead and bet it.

I'm not some kind of crazy Kuiu fan boy (though I did get my very first order last week and I must say it is all it is cracked up to be) I just wanted to lend my perspective to the story just like everyone else. Have a great day, Adam

1. You can tell a lot about a man by the company he keeps.

2. Leopards don't change their spots.

I'll go with Big Fin on this...

Being successful is admirable, but in and of itself does not add virtue to a person's other qualities beyond their intelligence, ambition, and work ethic. There's lots of people with intelligence, ambition, and work ethic that are complete turds.

Stand-up guys do that. People questioned Tom Miranda's ambition and pursuits, Even his ethics, and he came right on here and interacted, put the rumors and innuendos to rest. He won a lot of respect and supporters by doing so.

Something tells me Jason's reluctance to interact here and quell the rumors indicates he may be more involved with Peay and SFW than just a booth at a show.

Or perhaps he is running a rapidly growing company and has a young family and doesn't find posting on internet chat rooms is a good use of his free time?

If he decides that it's a good business decision to support SFW than that's what he's going to do. If at some point he decides it's no longer a good business decision I'm sure he'll cut his ties, and quickly.

What a few people think on Bowsite (a site he doesn't sponsor) is probably irrelevant to him.

This isn't about a booth. It has nothing to do with a booth at shows. It is about his statements on his own internet chat room in support of Don Peay, which he does apparently have time to do with the growing family, successful business, whatever other excuse. If he doesn't care what hundreds of thousands of Bowsiters think, which represent a big segment of his business, I guess that's his decision.

How would you guys feel if he said "Wayne Pacelle (HSUS) focus is on what is best for all hunters. I would like to learn why he is not a friend of the average hunter."

Hunters are passionate people, and a lot of them are passionate about SFW. Far be it for me, to tell Jason anything about marketing or Bowsite support, but I believe he knows exactly whats being discussed here.

Regarding Kuiu and Jason. He is most definitely monitoring this thread and I completely understand his reluctance to enter the "fray". His explanation of the extent of his support for SFW was satisfactory for me and I will continue to purchase products from Kuiu that meet my needs. I also know he has looked into this issue in-depth recently and is more informed due to this thread.

Or not. He can go on letting 100K+ potential customers continue to speculate and draw conclusions from what he said. Perhaps his reluctance is because he can't control the discussion and delete posts, as on his own forum?

Jason provided a response on the question regarding Kuiu's financial support to SFW to the one person who apparently asked him directly about it - and it's posted above. Despite that, many continue to post innuendo that essentially contradicts his statement on the matter.

Like I said above, this is a witch hunt. What good would come from him marching to the town square to address the angry mob?

Edit: Matt, we don't care about financial support via a booth at the show. We are interested in his statements about why Don Peay is such an outstanding ambassador for "all" hunters, when there seems to be plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Somehow this keeps getting swept away with a second-hand explanation about his booth. Not sure why he won't just make a quick post some morning in between hugging his family and supervising the design of a new pair of socks, but I guess he doesn't owe concerned Bowsiters anything so who cares what we think?

"All I know from my research on Don’s work is and the Utah’s DWR efforts, Utahs herds of Elk, Mule Deer and Bison, Big Horn Sheep, Moose and Mountain Goats have increased 200% to 500% depending on species over the past 20 years.

There used to be about 1000 limited entry and once in a lifetime tags, today there are more than 5000 and the F & G said the Utah General Season deer hunt in 2015 was the best in 20 years. How is this taking away opportunity.

The driving force for these increases is the money from the Tags and Expo and all the matching state and federal funds that come because the Expo allows Utah elected official to see just how big the hunting economy is. The Hunt Expo is an amazing show and is a joined effort of SFW and the Mule Deer Foundation. I have participated in the Expo for the past decade and it has benefited both of the brands I have created by connecting them to the hunters who attend. A Win Win from my perspective."

What if a business owner suggested that hunters should unite to improve our political influence? That the quantification of our financial/economic contributions is deserving of a seat at the table where policy is developed. That we should use that influence to expand funding for habitat improvement and to manage predators so that our game herds can expand - for the benefit of all hunters.

As a hunter and conservationist, that is a pretty compelling message.

Like most things in life, the devil is in the details. Unless you understand that the funding is to come from diverting big game tags from the public draws and auctioning/raffling those tags with the proceeds to be controlled by an inefficient and opaque non-profit, it is a good plan.

But here is the beauty of it, which is being missed by so many who can't focus beyond the conspiracy theory. It is a plan that could be workable without the graft of public resources. It's one we should probably all be thinking about how achieving.

Or we could just let the good part of the message be overshadowed by the bad and then castigate anyone who is unwilling to throw the baby out with the bath water....

However, there's no shortage of quantifiable data supporting what we do and the financial/economic contributions of hunters. It was pointed out numerous times by CPW commissioners during the recent wolf introduction hearing here in CO. But the commissioners and politicians supporting the wolf pushers don't care about our financial contributions. Its all about emotion and politics.

Our other "wolves" are those who would exploit the public resource for private financial gain and to buy political influence, as it appears SFW and BGF are doing.

I'm sure it would take only a minute to clear this up. He has the time to blog about how good the SFW is. We just need a minute for him to denounce his involvement with them. If he can't do that, then there are reasons for that.

That requirement is no more demanding than brushing your teeth in the morning.

God Bless

Sign me up for that boycot. ARR was one of my top choices when Kelly Houghen owned it. Not interested now.

I will also say this; I am ashamed to say I purchased tickets for all those sheep hunt raffles they did a few years ago. I did not realize it was associated with SFW as it was run under some other shadow organization. First time in my life I was hoping NOT to be drawn for a raffle.

My mistake, but I've corrected that. Kuiu could too. SFW is not someone I would like to be associated with.

Just like what happened to the Wounded Warrior execs last week, who were living it up a little too much courtesy of the donation money.

If true, does that in some way answer the question of his support?

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I'm sure he'll set the record straight one way or another. If he truly is in bed with SFW as many claim then I'll stop wearing my attack pants to bed.

Tongue in cheek of course, but I guess Kuiu is just an easy target(yes I do own Kuiu stuff) for some reason.

A lot of speculation going on in this thread...

Has been an entertaining read.

You know what they say about pissing matches; even if you win, everybody gets wet.

Kevin, this should answer your question.

Here's Jason's response:

"All I know from my research on Don’s work is and the Utah’s DWR efforts, Utahs herds of Elk, Mule Deer and Bison, Big Horn Sheep, Moose and Mountain Goats have increased 200% to 500% depending on species over the past 20 years.

There used to be about 1000 limited entry and once in a lifetime tags, today there are more than 5000 and the F & G said the Utah General Season deer hunt in 2015 was the best in 20 years. How is this taking away opportunity.

The driving force for these increases is the money from the Tags and Expo and all the matching state and federal funds that come because the Expo allows Utah elected official to see just how big the hunting economy is. The Hunt Expo is an amazing show and is a joined effort of SFW and the Mule Deer Foundation. I have participated in the Expo for the past decade and it has benefited both of the brands I have created by connecting them to the hunters who attend. A Win Win from my perspective."

Once again, go back and read how few are boycotting over participating in the expo. And, who has chosen to do so due to the fact that KUIU owner and CEO is in agreement with what is happening in Utah. The reasons for making that decision aren't the same.

I find it hard to believe that you could be against the SFW and say it is alright to support an organization that isn't, in their OWN words. Just my thoughts. God Bless

My question derives from the logic that the Expo is basically a symbiotic event, and the tendrils (money, relationships, support, common interests) are so intertwined that it's hard to single out just one company or business while ignoring all the other ones.

I'm all for accountability and full disclosure, though it often doesn't happen. It somehow seems like ALL the potential supporters or benefactors of the Expo / SFW should receive the same treatment/scrutiny from those sportsmen who object.

One more time: Can a person or company support the Expo without being a direct or indirect supporter of SFW...as long as SFW is running the show?

It's one thing to have a booth at a trade show. Quite another to be an ambassador for SFW as CEO of a respected company. He clearly has been drinking Peay-flavored Kool Aid.

Personally, I have nothing against Jason or Kuiu. I'm sure he's a good guy and has a good company with great products. I just want the SFW disease and corruption to stop before it spreads to other states. Hopefully this investigation in Utah will do that. If not, we hunters need to keep the pressure on.

That is a logical question, and one to which I would say "absolutely".

But for folks who feel differently, below is a list of the companies that had booths at or sponsored the convention that you should boycott. Those who think life is black and wife should probably boycott the Bowsite as well by extension.

Sitka Gear (Bowsite sponsor) Pope & Young Club (Bowsite Sponsor) OnxMaps (Bowsite Sponsor) Arizona Game & Fish Department Benchmade Knives Buck Knives Bushnell Cabelas Camofire Easton Hoyt Idaho G&FD Kenetrek Boots Kryptek Leica Mule Deer Foundation Mystery Ranch Nevada DoW Outdoorsmans Rocky Mountain Goat Alliance Russell Moccasins Schnees SCI Skull Hooker Sportsman's Warehouse Toyota USA Shooting Utah Bowmens Association Vortex Optics Wyoming G&FD Yeti Coolers

I will give him credit at being good at what he does and how he's accomplished it. I can sure understand how someone from the outside could be led astray pretty easy, as he is a genius at that!

As far as I am concerned, SFW is the mafia of Utah's wildlife. From Don setting up and controlling the boards, that appoint the boards and committee's that make the decisions in our state's wildlife policies, and having such over all influence, how else could all this have ever happened?

SFW are the worst thing that could have ever happened in our state. They have done some good things, but the flip side of that coin is the ruination of hunting, in this state, as it should be!

If any of you really want to know or be able to understand more about what is happening here, then follow my links and read what is happening and you will easily see why so many hunters hate SFW and why they and their leaders reputation is so tainted.

But let me warn you, its long and complicated, but it shows how corrupt the happenings in this state have become, concerning the managing and hunting of our wildlife.

Have a great bow hunt. BB

Watch out for wolves in sheep clothing! BB

As an aside, nearly 40% of New Mexico elk tags are allocated to private landowners instead of being included in the public draw. Many of these tags are UNIT WIDE tags and sell for many thousands of dollars. To be fair, this atrocity existed well before the NM SFW President joined the game commission. It should be no surprise though why it's so difficult to fix our broken system here.

http://kutv.com/news/local/allegations-of-corruption-surround-utah-hungtin-and-conservation-expo https://www.cascwild.org/don-peay-the-man-who-would-be-king-baron/ http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/conservationist/2012/03/group-founder-declares-north-american-hunting-model-%E2%80%9Csocialism%E2%80%9D http://www.standard.net/Recreation/2016/02/10/Transparency-still-debated-around-2016-Western-Hunting-and-Conservation-Expo.html http://www.mtbullypulpit.org/2012/06/pox-on-fox.html http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2013/03/19/did-don-peays-organization-essentially-buy-utah-division-of-wildlife/ http://westernvaluesproject.org/taxpayer-dollars-down-the-drain-utah-group-favors-privatized-hunting-energy-industry-over-hunters-anglers/ http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/us/auctions-introduce-market-forces-to-conservation-but-hunters-cry-foul.html?smid=pl-share&_r=2 http://missoulian.com/news/opinion/columnists/group-seeking-privatized-wildlife-spreading-misinformation/article_dfb5fe10-8570-11e1-99d1-0019bb2963f4.html https://howlingforjustice.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/urgent-sfw-founder-requests-taxpayer-money-to-lobby-for-wolf-delisting/ http://www.themudflats.net/archives/25891 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Arizona-Sportsmen-Against-Hb-2072/274702462612489

Meeting on the Capitol Stairs when Don gave his big speech----we all drank the koolaid back then.

Hell, I even offered a fully guided Youth Elk hunt for free when I had my forest service use permit with my Llama Adventure Treks.

Lot's and lot's has change since then for sure!

Good luck, Robb

Nick...this is partly why Alaska is my standard destination for wilderness hunting every year. I need the solitude and lack of competition more than I need the (killed) animal. Honestly...seriously...I have never once had an interest in entering draws, managing points, or being part of a lottery (game show) in order to have a chance to hunt somewhere. The only time I ever put in for a draw was to hunt alligators in Florida. I've also personally never had any interest in things like the Expo or other events where guys flock like mad for a chance to win something. I'm not poking at anyone...it's just not how I operate.

The whole competitive western (especially elk and moose) hunting scene has been a life-long negative for me. People like Don Peay and those who revel in the whole mosh pit of game-playing for hunting opportunities are foreign to me in all honesty. Competition breeds desire and creates financial opportunities. Competitive situations r/t sporting opportunities tire me instantly and are a personal negative. You'll never see me support them in this life.

My feelings exactly.....and all this time I thought I was virtually alone in this realm - glad to see I have some good company.

I wonder if there are other hunters who also feel the same way. The entire "...mosh pit game-playing for hunting opportunities" seems so counterintuitive to the way I feel about hunting - like it was, or should, never be this way.

Carry on.

for anyone on this thread to continue with the BS like

"" But for folks who feel differently, below is a list of the companies that had booths at or sponsored the convention that you should boycott""

is nothing more than, well, BS. It's not about the expo and we all know it.

Nick, You do know SFW already raped Alaska of some tags and shipped them down to the SLC Expo to be auctioned away, don't you?............As political payback for getting Corey Rossi appointed to a top wildlife position by Sarah Palin (before Rossi was forced to resign due to poaching). Please tell me you're aware of this. This was a few years ago. SFW has been infecting your state for a while, and I suspect slowly worming their plants on the wildlife board. That's how they do things. See article below:

http://www.themudflats.net/archives/25891

"" But for folks who feel differently, below is a list of the companies that had booths at or sponsored the convention that you should boycott""

is nothing more than, well, BS. It's not about the expo and we all know it."

Bullhound, first off, you need to get your sarcasm detector into the shop. The second part of the comment (the only part you saw fit to quote for some reason - I wonder why?) was quite obviously was tongue in cheek as it was contradicted by the first part.

But secondly, how successful do you think the Western Wildlife Convention would be if it had no exhibitors?

I don't begrudge any company, group, or agency for participating in the event, but we need to honest with ourselves in that participation in the event provide support to SFW. Roughly 2/3 of SFW's revenue in 2013 came from "Government grants (contributions)", which I take to mean proceeds from the auctioning of Utah big game tags. I doubt SFW gets an allocation of auction tags absent the raffle tags, and if the financial benefit to the State of Utah was to decrease due to lack of participation in the WWC, the house of cards could very well fall apart.

In an e-mail I received from Austin Cox, Constituent Services for the State of Utah cited the local economic benefits of the Convention as a driver for the convention.

To that end, boycotting the WWC is the easiest way to support the cause.

In a related note, what is interesting to me is not so much the exhibitors at the convention, but those who don't exhibit.

KUIU is going special forces.

We are supposed to burn all our KUIU gear and boycott SFW and ANYONE that helps SFW? We should boycott ARR because SFW owns it. Is this correct?

Also, who will be the first to start the list of all the company's that support SFW or ARR or the NAACP or the KKK or BP or tuttulik!

You see I'm being faciitus because for years I have denounced Governors Tags and any other whoring of public game tags only to be shouted down as a selfish easterner who doesn't "understand western hunting". I told all who would listen that selling public tags was a slippery slope! I guess them chickens finally came home to roost... If it sounds like I'm not terrified at what is happening like some of you are its because I saw it coming. Just so we are clear on this, the cat is out of the bag now. y'all might chase it for awhile but unless the sale of ALL public game tags is stopped it will only get worse. The reason it will get worse is "the love of money", certain people have learned they can make lots of money by selling game tags. So what possible cure will solve this insurmountable problem? Stop ALL sales of game tags! Anything less will only prolong the agony. But, since I'm a lowly easterner, "thats probably none of my business!" Mike

I'm going to boycott someone I currently don't support! Wow...that will be effective!

More so, When it's thought to be dumb or useless to stand for something, it isn't long until the taboo is considered normal. God Blesd

7 ways to bacon.

Drop-dead accurate.

The Crosman/Benjamin Airbow is shipping in May. Cabelas and Bass Pro Shops are Crosman/Benjamin dealers. They will market it. Amazon and Ebay will have them. It comes with Realtree camo and a CenterPoint scope. I wonder how many of those companies will be boycotted completely? Get ready to ditch everything Realtree...etc.

The problem is endemic.