Bowsite Outage - Please Read
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Contributors to this thread:
Pat Lefemine 18-Jun-19
Brotsky 18-Jun-19
Bake 18-Jun-19
Boreal 18-Jun-19
Ron Niziolek 18-Jun-19
Brotsky 18-Jun-19
Hackbow 18-Jun-19
Vonfoust 18-Jun-19
Southern draw 18-Jun-19
Kevin Dill 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
OFFHNTN 18-Jun-19
sticksender 18-Jun-19
Beartrack 18-Jun-19
WapitiBob 18-Jun-19
Bowbender 18-Jun-19
Jaquomo 18-Jun-19
DL 18-Jun-19
Mt. man 18-Jun-19
South Farm 18-Jun-19
EmbryOklahoma 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
steff 18-Jun-19
T Mac 18-Jun-19
Rut Nut 18-Jun-19
scentman 18-Jun-19
BowSniper 18-Jun-19
BIG BEAR 18-Jun-19
KSBOW 18-Jun-19
jdee 18-Jun-19
Dirk Diggler 18-Jun-19
Bowbender 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
Brotsky 18-Jun-19
Will 18-Jun-19
Grey Ghost 18-Jun-19
Trial153 18-Jun-19
M.Pauls 18-Jun-19
bigswivle 18-Jun-19
Chris S 18-Jun-19
SBH 18-Jun-19
Bake 18-Jun-19
TD 18-Jun-19
bigswivle 18-Jun-19
Buckhunter 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
Norseman 18-Jun-19
bigeasygator 18-Jun-19
'Ike' (Phone) 18-Jun-19
BowSniper 18-Jun-19
Bowbender 18-Jun-19
canepole 18-Jun-19
stick n string 18-Jun-19
boothill 18-Jun-19
12yards 18-Jun-19
bowbender77 18-Jun-19
pav 18-Jun-19
keepemsharp 18-Jun-19
Bou'bound 18-Jun-19
deerslayer 18-Jun-19
joecomet 18-Jun-19
Kevin Dill 18-Jun-19
Dino 18-Jun-19
'Ike' (Phone) 18-Jun-19
K Cummings 18-Jun-19
Brotsky 18-Jun-19
Jim Moore 18-Jun-19
tonyo6302 18-Jun-19
K Cummings 18-Jun-19
scentman 18-Jun-19
scentman 18-Jun-19
elkmtngear 18-Jun-19
EmbryOklahoma 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
scentman 18-Jun-19
jdee 18-Jun-19
Coyote 65 18-Jun-19
Whitey 18-Jun-19
trublucolo 18-Jun-19
Scar Finga 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
Salagi 18-Jun-19
jingalls 18-Jun-19
T Mac 18-Jun-19
bowhunter24 18-Jun-19
Dirk Diggler 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
Two Feathers 18-Jun-19
Meat Grinder 18-Jun-19
Mike the Carpenter 18-Jun-19
bigswivle 18-Jun-19
itshot 18-Jun-19
Bowbender 18-Jun-19
Bowfreak 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
Kevin @ Wisconsin 18-Jun-19
Bowbender 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
stagetek 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
TD 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
TD 18-Jun-19
JTV 18-Jun-19
Jim Moore 18-Jun-19
scentman 19-Jun-19
Kevin Dill 19-Jun-19
ELKMAN 19-Jun-19
Brotsky 19-Jun-19
tobinsghost 19-Jun-19
Vonfoust 19-Jun-19
JTV 19-Jun-19
BIG BEAR 19-Jun-19
Brotsky 19-Jun-19
Panther Bone 19-Jun-19
JTV 19-Jun-19
Norseman 19-Jun-19
KSflatlander 19-Jun-19
bigeasygator 19-Jun-19
BIG BEAR 19-Jun-19
Trax 19-Jun-19
BIG BEAR 19-Jun-19
Jaquomo 19-Jun-19
Drnaln 19-Jun-19
MQQSE 19-Jun-19
EmbryOklahoma 19-Jun-19
Jaquomo 19-Jun-19
Brotsky 19-Jun-19
Will 19-Jun-19
elkmtngear 19-Jun-19
Sitting Bull 19-Jun-19
BC 19-Jun-19
HDE 19-Jun-19
midwest 19-Jun-19
Kevin Dill 19-Jun-19
Huntcell 19-Jun-19
Pat Lefemine 19-Jun-19
From: Pat Lefemine
18-Jun-19
My apologies to everyone for the outage. We are making changes to Bowsite and it was absolutely necessary that we had no traffic to the site while those changes occurred. Normally we will stage the site and then do a simple cut over. Unfortunately that was not possible since we were dealing with our massive data warehouse going back to 1996.

Everything is back online now except the community forum. We will have a separate communication about that in the next few days.

Again, my apologies for the outage. Should be our last one for a while.

Pat

From: Brotsky
18-Jun-19

Brotsky's embedded Photo
Brotsky's embedded Photo
Thanks for bringing our productivity back to "normal levels" Pat. :-)

From: Bake
18-Jun-19
You know it's just entirely unacceptable that this completely free service you provide wasn't available for 2 days :)

Thanks for the update and all your hard work supplying us with this free community

From: Boreal
18-Jun-19
That was painful! I even resorted to poking around on LW which made it doubly so!

From: Ron Niziolek
18-Jun-19
I didn't realize I had a Bowsite addiction...………..

From: Brotsky
18-Jun-19

Brotsky's embedded Photo
Brotsky's embedded Photo
Bowsiter’s the past couple days....

From: Hackbow
18-Jun-19
I saw colors I've never seen before. I spoke in complete sentences with my family.

From: Vonfoust
18-Jun-19
Employees were a bit ticked off since I paid attention to what they were doing for a few days.

18-Jun-19
Glad it’s back up!

From: Kevin Dill
18-Jun-19
"Bowsite Out(r)age - Please Read" ;-)

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
I thought it said "outrage" ... that very well maybe without the CF ...

18-Jun-19
big step to eliminate the community forum.....good luck with where this all headed Pat. It won't stop me from participating in archery and hunting topics at all.

From: OFFHNTN
18-Jun-19
Brotsky.........LMAO!

I felt so naked without being able to access bowsite!

From: sticksender
18-Jun-19
Doubt he's eliminating the CF? So many souls will be crushed if that happens!

From: Beartrack
18-Jun-19
I think your GNP went up 2 points these last few days. Trump should be hiring Pat monthly!

From: WapitiBob
18-Jun-19
Community forum could be dropped altogether; nothing but people arguing about Trump or worrying about the true identity of Rancid Crabtree.

From: Bowbender
18-Jun-19

Bowbender's embedded Photo
Bowbender's embedded Photo
Maybe the CF is going away?

From: Jaquomo
18-Jun-19
I learned that PornHub has a "leatherwall" too!

From: DL
18-Jun-19
Productivity at work up 30%

From: Mt. man
18-Jun-19
Wouldn't miss the CF at ALL!!!!

From: South Farm
18-Jun-19
For a minute there I thought I got banned!

18-Jun-19
Glad it's back up! By the way... I've talked with TBM and he wants to come back to bowsite. :)

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
Its the libs that will be glad the CF is gone ..they never like the truth to be told as it is ... more censorship, just like what facebook and twitter does to conservatives ...

From: steff
18-Jun-19
Phew....I can put the xanax back now!

From: T Mac
18-Jun-19
You don’t know what you got until it’s gone! I was in shock and awe the first time I saw it was offline! I checked back several times

From: Rut Nut
18-Jun-19
Just glad it wasn't more than a few days! (never realized how many times a day I just automatically click on Bowsite! ;-)

From: scentman
18-Jun-19
hey, its your baby you can do as you please.

From: BowSniper
18-Jun-19
Not only going away... but taking with it every great debate and battle Royale ever had?!?!

From: BIG BEAR
18-Jun-19
Well,,, A handful of the guys on the CF finally did it. They went overboard and got the plug pulled on the whole works.......nice going.........

From: KSBOW
18-Jun-19
Jaq I spit out my coffee reading your comment!!

From: jdee
18-Jun-19
Bowsite is a great bow hunting site but I sure won’t miss the CF part of it being gone !!

From: Dirk Diggler
18-Jun-19
Hits generate revenue, lotta hits on the cf. Just sayin.

From: Bowbender
18-Jun-19
All you guys that say "good riddance to the CF", what forced you to go there?

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
^^ .. exactly... I cant stand CNN/MSNBC I dont go there, and I dont go to Young Turks (a lib/Democrat site) either, no Huffpo or other Democrat/lefty sites... I even quit going onto Drudge because it is turning into a lefty/democrat stronghold with the news it posts ..

From: Brotsky
18-Jun-19
I visited the CF a fair amount and posted some there. I can't say I'll miss it much. I'll just have to find somewhere else to go for my conspiracy theories and the right wing's version of fake news :-)

From: Will
18-Jun-19
Glad all's well Pat. I'd had visions of some evil PETA cyberattack on the Bowsite - you just trying to keep improving is much more welcome news.

Brotsky's graph is hilarious, and very true!

I've pondered needing a timeout from the CF, looks like now's the time. Thanks for keeping Bowsite rolling Pat, I'm sure it's a lot of work, and it's appreciated.

From: Grey Ghost
18-Jun-19
I'd go to the CF out of morbid curiosity, mostly....in a car crash sort of way...I know I shouldn't look, but can't resist.

It won't break my heart if the CF leaves permanently. Recently it's been uglier, and casting a bad image on all bowhunters, IMO. Intolerance, name calling, vulgarity, and illiterate grammar have no places on a public forum. All of those things were becoming commonplace on the CF.

Matt

From: Trial153
18-Jun-19
Exactly Brotsky, good riddance to the place. I never seen such gathering of vitriol in one place.

From: M.Pauls
18-Jun-19
K so let me get this straight. I'm locked out for 3 days and when I can finally return, there's no new content?! This sucks

18-Jun-19
I believe Pat has had reservations about hosting the community forum for a really long time. Personally I can see the issues that it raises....especially if you are trying to run a business. I can see this single thread already becoming the new CF...........might set a new record for posts.

From: bigswivle
18-Jun-19
Sucks about the CF, wasn’t that bad of a place, just had to read past the BS.

From: Chris S
18-Jun-19
All that work to make a separate section to bring back TBM

From: SBH
18-Jun-19
Well I was out of service for most of the outage but when I got back from bear hunting Sunday and the site was down....I basically figured out it’s the only thing I do online other than email:)

From: Bake
18-Jun-19
I started going to the CF after Trump was elected. Just to see the news (because I don't watch or read news, don't even have cable/satellite anymore)

I never posted much, but it had become my guilty little secret pleasure to lurk on there.

If I were Pat though, I'd dump it for good just due to business reasons. It's a little too much on there most of the time

From: TD
18-Jun-19
Wow..... I'm offended..... triggered even..... ya sissies..... heheheh.... funny to see negative comments about a forum you can't make yourself stay away from..... you do realize you didn't go on it by accident??? No. Really. That's the way it works. See? You learn something new every day.....

Some folks are really are pretty.... entertaining..... "PORN SHOULD BE BANNED! You woudn't BELIEVE what I saw last night! The perverts!"

Bowsite? I can quit anytime I want..... I just don't happen to want to right now...

From: bigswivle
18-Jun-19
“I never posted much, but it had become my guilty little secret pleasure to lurk on there.“

Haha, perfect description of my CF experience

From: Buckhunter
18-Jun-19
WTF

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
so Pat is going to give a win to the lefties ?? .. I thought he was better than that and a devout conservative .. I never would have thought he'd cave in like that .. a good moderator could have handled the place, and was requested by some of the regulars there I believe .. I know I did... and there was a few willing to moderate it ..

From: Norseman
18-Jun-19
The CF was my go to “What’s happening in the World” link!

One Click and Boom!

No one faster than some of those CF posters on getting news updates.

Hope it comes back.

From: bigeasygator
18-Jun-19
Bake, I started going to the CF about the same time...after my wife scolded me for getting too political on Facebook haha I didn't really have any other outlet, so the CF became the place I interacted on politics, society, economics, science, etc.

In general, I have to say I agree with Bake, GG, and Trial. There were some thoughtful posters who I enjoyed engaging who made me challenge my own thoughts and see certain things from another perspective; all-in-all I had fun with it and, for the most part, could get past the BS and the vitriol. I took some breaks at times for various reasons, but it was a guilty pleasure and it was hard to resist at times :) That said, there was definitely a lack of respect and a lack of civility that permeated far too many of the posts on the place and I can see why Pat would want to separate what Bowsite is from much of the behavior displayed on the CF.

18-Jun-19
All Trump’s fault...Lol

From: BowSniper
18-Jun-19
So how will we find out if Gitmo becomes a secret Concentration camp for tens of thousands of deep state conspirators? What about the radioactive mass from Japan's reactor leak about to reach Seattle? What about BIGFOOT ?!?!?!? Lol

From: Bowbender
18-Jun-19
I'm still waiting to hear what the Rothchilds and the Illumination guys are doing and when their plan for worldwide domination kicks in......

From: canepole
18-Jun-19
Embry, we Okla guys didn't seem to have a problem with TBM. He sure drove some of the guys bat sheet crazy though! I thought some of their responses were more amusing that TBM statements. BTW, have you tried the ham blaster shot yet?

18-Jun-19
I don’t know where in the heck I’m going to get all my funny Memes to send of my friends now. I never posted but it was my Facebook for some giggles

From: boothill
18-Jun-19
I was worried that the state of Connecticut finally got Pat shut down and confiscated his bow fishing rig and leopard mount.

From: 12yards
18-Jun-19
136. That's the number of times I hit my bookmark wondering WTH had happened. It's so defeating to see that little circle spinning relentlessly and no Bowsite appearing. All is now right with the world once again.

From: bowbender77
18-Jun-19
You never miss the water till the well runs dry. Glad to have Bowsite back. Thanks for all your help and keep up the good work Pat.

From: pav
18-Jun-19
Thank God.... Bowsite is back....I was starting to suffer from withdrawal symptoms!

From: keepemsharp
18-Jun-19
Really going to miss the monthly joke thread.

From: Bou'bound
18-Jun-19
there is no shortage of monthly joke threads.

From: deerslayer
18-Jun-19
#Neveragain

From: joecomet
18-Jun-19
As my bumper window states, "I was going to move to New Zealand but now I want a new Planet" !!!!

From: Kevin Dill
18-Jun-19
The House sets the rules and provides the tables. I have no problem with it. I don't think shutting down the CF will hurt Bowsite.

From: Dino
18-Jun-19
I feel much better now. Was going through definite withdrawal.

18-Jun-19
“Exactly Brotsky, good riddance to the place. I never seen such gathering of vitriol in one place.”

LMAO....So why would you go in there?!? Pat, you sure you want to get rid of CF...

From: K Cummings
18-Jun-19
Hopefully Pat replaces it with another "community" forum, only this time enforce the rules.

I'm surprised the last one lasted as long as it did. Once people found out they could make threats, make vulgar posts, and try to negatively affect people they didn't like outside the confines of the forum, some people just ramped up that type of behavior like there was no limits at all.

KPC

From: Brotsky
18-Jun-19
Pat says more changes are coming. Call me crazy but maybe I’ll wait and see what he has lined up for us before I get too excited. Crazy I know but that’s how I roll.

From: Jim Moore
18-Jun-19
I have been here since pretty much the beginning...what, 20+ years or so? I have followed Pat via his sites, and have watched a guy with great entrepreneurial skill and vision take a mere hunters alert style site and make it what it is today, all the while becoming extremely successful and a respected voice and advocate for hunters everywhere. He has done some controversial changes in the past which some of liked and others loathed, but it always works out. I am sure that PL knows what he is doing and is looking out for his business interests as any businessman should.

From: tonyo6302
18-Jun-19
" Once people found out they could make threats, make vulgar posts, and try to negatively affect people they didn't like outside the confines of the forum . . . . . "

. . . . .

. . . . . .

KPC, all the CF forgave you for that a long time ago . . . . .

;^)

From: K Cummings
18-Jun-19
Yeah, those were all things I did regularly.

:)

KPC

From: scentman
18-Jun-19
Ah, all is good in the world.

From: scentman
18-Jun-19
And damn, I keep hitting the community forum botton ;0)

From: elkmtngear
18-Jun-19
Thanks Pat...I was spending way too much time on the CF, discovered it right before the 2016 Election, and the hook was set!

Just a final reminder to all the Bowlibs and Never-Trumpers...I was right ;^D

18-Jun-19
canepole... haven't tried the hamblaster as of yet. Although, I wouldn't mind doing that on a hog! lol

CF? Hmmm... seems I should've ventured over for some more entertainment from time to time. :)

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
elkmtngear, I was ALWAYS 'right', over there ... put more than one of those #neverTrumpers/lib-rairians to shame .. ;0) ....

From: scentman
18-Jun-19
You guy's who were on the CF daily ... whats this, the apology tour?

From: jdee
18-Jun-19
The only reason I ever clicked on the CF is because it was part of bowsite then I couldn’t get off it quick enough !! I hope the big game forum doesn’t turn into the new CF. I consider my self a die hard conservative but I sure don’t want to see that s=%& on bowsite all day, every day.

From: Coyote 65
18-Jun-19
I loved it. Will hate to see it go away. Was always a good source of links to articles that I would want to read.

Terry

From: Whitey
18-Jun-19
If I was a betting man I would wager that an individual claimed he was harassed at work and in his community by members of the community. He seemed like the kind that would attempt to use the system to harm a group of right leaning members.

Either that or the site is being positioned for a sale.

From: trublucolo
18-Jun-19
lol, I'm going to have to find out where Mike the Carpenter posts his memes now, the guy is a riot, thinking about it, some of his stuff may be why Pat is taking the CF down..... :-)

From: Scar Finga
18-Jun-19
I think all the foul language and cheesy empty threats are what caused its demise, I always enjoyed it, and took it with a grain of salt. I really hope nobody would actually harass a guy to the point of going after him in a real sense! But, I wouldn't bet against it!

The monthly jokes were always my favorite, but that forum almost needed a full time 24hr a day moderator!

I always enjoyed it, in a twisted kind of way! an occasional hell or damn isn't to bad, but some guys just couldn't tone it down! I really hope Pat isn't considering selling the site! I would have to go into rehab for crying out loud!!! The withdrawals alone might kill me!

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
maybe he is going public ?? ;0) .. or linking to facebook or twitter, you know how those two sites hate conservatives..

From: Salagi
18-Jun-19
"Hopefully Pat replaces it with another "community" forum, only this time enforce the rules."

I hope so too. My bookmark was the Leatherwall where I would check out a thread or two {more until some whined and got the Campfire banned ;) }, and then glance at Bowsite before heading over to the CF to camp out. It was a good way to get a quick read on news and some pretty good articles. I figured out how to filter out the jerks and ignore them, that left some pretty good folks to listen to.

From: jingalls
18-Jun-19
I almost died!^D

From: T Mac
18-Jun-19
Bake summed up my cf experience perfect

From: bowhunter24
18-Jun-19
Thanks for all your hard work Pat. Monday at work wasn't as much fun without Bowsite!

From: Dirk Diggler
18-Jun-19
Sorta sums up one of the biggest problems in our society today, "I'm offended, you must change".

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
the CF was for those who could take the heat and enjoy politics and discussion (arguing), some never had the thick skin for it and let it get to them, others were just troll's, one in particular with many lies and many different names .... ... I enjoyed the heck out of it, it was a game to me with many truths, and Dems/libs dont like the truth or being proven wrong .. Dirk is correct ^^

From: Two Feathers
18-Jun-19
I'm a fan of the CF. Hope it returns.

From: Meat Grinder
18-Jun-19
It was touch and go for a while there...but I think I made it through the outage.

18-Jun-19
I just hope the “Makin’ Bacon” thread isn’t lost with the CF bleachbit (I simply cannot picture Pat sitting there next to Hillary, swinging hammers trying to remove everything. HA!!) That was how I remembered each step in my recipe as it was the only place I ever wrote it down.

From: bigswivle
18-Jun-19
CF just needs a couple of active mods

From: itshot
18-Jun-19
things that make you go hmmmmmmm........i guess we will see, not liking my gut feeling tho

trump/lefemine 2020

From: Bowbender
18-Jun-19

Bowbender's embedded Photo
Bowbender's embedded Photo
Found this on the old "Anybody fishing thread?"

Our very own Gray Ghost and his new rig for tarpon fishing.

From: Bowfreak
18-Jun-19
I'll miss it for sure.

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
Mods were requested by me and others ... and some said they' d be glad to do it .... some should have been poof'd when they continued to return under different names... but was then left to roam freely, why is beyond any reasonable common sense ..

18-Jun-19
Damn. Used to go to the CF just to laugh at all of the ridiculousness.

So if Pat is cleaning up this place and getting rid of the riff raff I can only think..

#1. Pat is selling the Bowsite to an LA based investment firm.

Or

#2. Pat is replacing Sarah Sanders and is going to Washington.

From: Bowbender
18-Jun-19
So Charlie, is that a confirmation that there will no longer be a CF?

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
HH, I STILL cant decipher your posts... lol ..

Thanks Charlie, we could have used you on the CF, instead of just lurking ... ;0) ... Pat did pop in once in a while, mainly to post or even start a thread, but I'm guessin' he didnt want to say much, being the owner and all that.. he left that up to us ...

From: stagetek
18-Jun-19
Glad it's gone. Full of haters. No purpose what-so-ever on a bow site. Can't imagine what took so long.

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
^^ .. One of the libs/dems who always got his feelings hurt ... so of course they want to see conservative talk silenced.... having a separte forum for "anything/everything" is a good idea ...

From: TD
18-Jun-19
BowhuntersOnly.com?

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
no crossbows allowed ?? ^^ ... BOWhuntersonly.com .. :0)

From: TD
18-Jun-19
"to position Bowsite for upcoming changes"

Soooo.... who ya selling it to?

From: JTV
18-Jun-19
if sold, it will never be the same .. smh ..

From: Jim Moore
18-Jun-19
"Either that or the site is being positioned for a sale." Saw this from Whitey and was wondering the same thing, just didn't want to verbalize it.

From: scentman
19-Jun-19
Pat loves this place, he ain't selling... my guess some tight butt threatened a law suit and Pat had no choice but to shut er down... ya see some start slinging stuff but when it is slung back to them they cry... kind of like Hildabeast after the election. Speaking of election... watch the rally lest nite?

From: Kevin Dill
19-Jun-19

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From: ELKMAN
19-Jun-19
Now what happened? I must a missed it...

From: Brotsky
19-Jun-19
I see the conspiracy theorists have now moved to the BGF! LMAO! Anyone consider that maybe Pat is following through with some of the things he has said he had planned for Bowsite? Such as an improved search engine, archiving, etc? That may have required some hardware upgrades on his end that caused him to take the site down a few days? Couldn’t be that simple though could it? Definitely getting into the heat of the offseason! Ha!

From: tobinsghost
19-Jun-19
This is just Pat's way of Keeping America Great! I will miss CF if it goes away.

From: Vonfoust
19-Jun-19
Never made it over there to the CF, now I feel like I missed out.

From: JTV
19-Jun-19
... again why was not a certain individual not removed after many fake names and his intentional trolling used to disrupt the CF almost daily/ rule #9 ... I'd really like to know and not have this deleted please... if one dosnt want to answer, please say so ..

From: BIG BEAR
19-Jun-19
For the same reason you weren’t banned for your racist meme joke..... and your buddies Trax and HedgeHunter weren’t banned for registering anonymously.......

From: Brotsky
19-Jun-19
LMAO...I can't imagine why Pat would want to do away with the CF. This thread is all the evidence anyone would ever need.

19-Jun-19
Right, Brotsky... Lol

From: JTV
19-Jun-19
BB, I am NOT going to start here with you, this is what you did in the CF, antagonize and disrupt, start fights (with MANY there), and NO, it wasnt racist ... only in your liberal mind and eyes .... BTW, it was STILL there at the request of many, until the CF went away .. I'm done with you, BB go back to Dunkin Donuts and Car 54.. I'm done with this thread also ...

From: Norseman
19-Jun-19
CF description did say “Anything Toxic”

From: KSflatlander
19-Jun-19
“Place got cleaned up purty well in last 18 months or so.“

-Hedge

I think HedgeHunter violated more than the anonymous clause on multiple occasions. It’s a shame that some users don’t respect the rules and jeopardize all the hard work Pat obviously put into his company.

From: bigeasygator
19-Jun-19
LMAO...I can't imagine why Pat would want to do away with the CF. This thread is all the evidence anyone would ever need.

Yup...and for those that missed out, you're getting 90% of it on this thread and a few others. I noticed the mods are much more active on the BGF threads though and don't seem to tolerate much of what was commonplace on the CF.

From: BIG BEAR
19-Jun-19
Yep.... Poor Hedge and JTV the victims...... They can thank themselves for the CF getting shut down......

I’m glad that the Bowsite will be moving away from politics. It’s the Bowsite. No need to provide a platform for politics here.......

From: Trax
19-Jun-19
You are right JTV. The likes of BooBoo love to paint themselves the victim, and then crap all over the picnic table. Typical, and to be expected. He recites "poor me" as he adjusts his halo. I have always said Pat has the right to do absolutely anything he wants. He owns this thread. I have seen other sites do away with "campfire" discussion threads or strangle them, and have seen those sites disappear or barely hang on. I never conversed on those sites, just gleaned info but I did bear witness to their fall. Campfire discussion always brings with it emotion, it always also brings good conversation and communication. Politics being the most volatile of all issues more than likely. and emotion can be a good thing even with escalating tempers. Then again, this is a snowflake crybaby PC driven society the leftists are trying to cement in for all to live in. A master must be bowed to. Nothing at all changes for me, if it is adios amigos so be it. I may be semi-retired (although keep getting called back to operation) but I'm barely 50 and in top shape and health. I do zero social media so this site has for the first time in my life given me reason to contribute. Not allowed when I was in active operation. Never have spent more than fleeting minutes here and there online but even that is too much! More time for the outdoors rather than just talking about it.

From: BIG BEAR
19-Jun-19
Adios anonymous amigo.

From: Jaquomo
19-Jun-19
Now I remember why I never went on the Community Forum. Like being married to my first wife...

19-Jun-19
just what I predicted would happen....has happened.

From: Drnaln
19-Jun-19
Thanks

From: MQQSE
19-Jun-19
Amen! It’s been getting ugly the last few days.

19-Jun-19
"Now I remember why I never went on the Community Forum. Like being married to my first wife..."

EXACTLY!!

From: Jaquomo
19-Jun-19
I've had posts pulled here when I simply poked fun at the trad snobbery over on the Leatherwall. Nothing obscene, argumentative, or untrue. I was told in a PM by the moderator it was because I "mischaracterized the Leatherwall". I'm a trad guy too.

Which is another way of saying, "One mod is a trad guy with thin skin".

But mostly, Pat, Charlie, and the mods let things run here, and are very tolerant when posts sometimes get a little over the top.

From: Brotsky
19-Jun-19
Is there any way we can add a requirement to the code of conduct that posts must contain some type of rational thought and not just be incoherent rambling?

From: Will
19-Jun-19
I've been on BowSite so long that I dont remember if I have ever read the rules of conduct. That said, I just read them (via the link above). Figured I'd post them here for all, given I'd bet many are in the same boat and have not looked at the info in a long time either. For some reason the numbers didnt come through, so hopefully the list below is readable:

No Profanity. This includes cursing, sexual innuendo, vulgar statements, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and other terms deemed offensive.

Ethical Persecution is not allowed - Public submissions which criticize other hunters for what they hunt, where they hunt, or how they hunt are not allowed.

No Threatening, harassing, or abusive remarks.

No discussion, or challenge, to our editing policy are allowed within the conferences.

No topics and/or statements which could be used to reflect poorly on archery and/or bowhunting.Since the Bowsite is visited frequently by anti-hunting organizations and non-hunting individuals, we feel it is necessary to remove those topics or statements which could be used against us, or tarnish our image. While the contributors original intent (e.g. an example of "what not to do") may be good-intentioned, if it can assist in presenting poor image to the media for our sport it will be removed.

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Topics must be related to the forum. No off-topic posting allowed.This means that while in the whitetail forum, only topics directly related to bowhunting whitetail deer will be allowed. For example, a question on tuning your bow posted in the bear forum is not allowed. See the forum guidelines below.

Contributors who are argumentative, intolerant, confrontational, and lack respect for others will be removed. While debate is often healthy, habitual debaters and people who seek confrontation will be removed and potentially blocked from making future contributions. This is necessary to ensure a positive experience for the great majority of our visitors.

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From: elkmtngear
19-Jun-19
HH may have to change his handle to "poof" ...

From: Sitting Bull
19-Jun-19
I never knew the community forum existed - never a big one to scroll past the first few lines on a drop down menu. Now I've missed it!

From: BC
19-Jun-19
Recently a guy from Vermont posted a thread in the BGF asking how long you normally sit before seeing deer (in the Northeast that can be long). For some reason the thread disappeared, unless I just missed it. Why would something like that get axed?

From: HDE
19-Jun-19
"Contributors who are argumentative, intolerant, confrontational, and lack respect for others will be removed. While debate is often healthy, habitual debaters and people who seek confrontation will be removed and potentially blocked from making future contributions. This is necessary to ensure a positive experience for the great majority of our visitors."

Don't post much on the BG forum much anymore because of this. A different approach or reason/opinion for something is not grounds to be informed you're an idiot.

If people would proofread prior to submitting, discussions would be very civil. I have deleted posts before submitting and closing the thread altogether because of proofreading first. "Think so you don't sink".

From: midwest
19-Jun-19
Geez, these CF guys are like parasites looking for a new host after killing their last one.

From: Kevin Dill
19-Jun-19
I might suggest....if the software makes it possible....only allowing edits to posts for something like 5-10 minutes after the poster hits the send button. After that time....no further edits and the post stands as written. Thank you.

From: Huntcell
19-Jun-19
this is what we know at this time: 'remove the former 'community' forum', does not say CU is NOT coming back.

I read Pat statement to imply a new improved version is possible. "In the coming weeks, we will be communicating those changes to you."

From: Pat Lefemine
19-Jun-19
the horse has been beaten to death. No need to continue discussing this. Simply comply with our rules and everything will be fine.

This Topic has been locked. Thank you.

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