Gregg Ritz in trouble again.
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From: midwest
14-Mar-20

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From: Waterfowler
14-Mar-20
It'll get swept under the carpet like the first time unfortunately.

From: sticksender
14-Mar-20
The unseemly side of "pro hunting"......

From: Scrappy
14-Mar-20
Dang at this rate that dude is going to set a world record for the most states being charged with a wildlife violation. If my memory serves me right hasn't Ohio and Kentucky kicked him out for poaching.

From: JB
14-Mar-20
I hope he gets what he deserves, but it probably won't happen. Even if he gets "fired" from the show, he will surface somewhere else. Guy can hunt anywhere in the world and has all the connections and he does that? Idiot.

From: HH
14-Mar-20
The Woody Show on FM does Porn Star Birthdays every morning. This sounds like one until you here its one of the stalwarts of the TV Hunting Industry.

Why I turned off horn porn over a decade ago.

K~

From: t-roy
14-Mar-20
Ritz, Big Bill & Brackett should check into getting a group discount from some law firm.

Wejust, Chootum, & Leevumlay perhaps?

From: Reggiezpop
14-Mar-20
The best part is all his groupies coming to his defense so social media. Hopefully the state of Missouri comes down hard on him.

From: YZF-88
14-Mar-20
I read on the Missouri whitetails page the lease he was hunting is owned my Midway USA's Larry Potterfield. Have to think even being charged won't go over well. Even if he paid minions to drag it out and they didn't, he still lied to authorities. Even if he claims to not know he was hunting over a baited foodplot (yes ironic), he still lied about it.

I haven't had cable for 7 years, glad to see I haven't been missing anything. I'll take a free YouTube video of some guys getting after it and not harvesting anything any day over this disgusting commercialization.

From: HH
14-Mar-20
"Thanks fer your Business"

K~

From: Outdoordan
14-Mar-20
"I read on the Missouri whitetails page the lease he was hunting is owned my Midway USA's Larry Potterfield. Have to think even being charged won't go over well. Even if he paid minions to drag it out and they didn't, he still lied to authorities. Even if he claims to not know he was hunting over a baited foodplot (yes ironic), he still lied about it. I haven't had cable for 7 years, glad to see I haven't been missing anything. I'll take a free YouTube video of some guys getting after it and not harvesting anything any day over this disgusting commercialization."

Totally agree. Turned mine off about the same time. I am only interested in watching youtubes of average Joe's hunting.

From: ki-ke
14-Mar-20
Wondering why his camera man and land manager voluntarily rolled so quickly? Not even that they rolled, it sounds like the video guy actually reached out to the CO. Perhaps ol' Gregg was behind on payroll?

Leaving the entire deer is shameful. Hope it costs him a bunch....

T-Roy, Is that firm a subsidiary of Dewey, Cheetum & Howe?

From: brantman
14-Mar-20
stop watching his lame show

From: Bowfreak
14-Mar-20
Doesn't seem like a big deal. It looks like he piled a bunch of extra Chinese food on his plate and couldn't eat it.-Wonton waste.

From: Glunt@work
14-Mar-20
Looks bad but I'll wait for the outcome. He is pleading not guilty.

From: SteveB
14-Mar-20
It’s America. Innocent until proven guilty. Not saying he isn’t....but not sure yet. Game officers have been wrong before - that’s a fact.

From: WapitiBob
14-Mar-20
“Did you take the deer to a processor or taxidermist?”

“I’ll call you back.”

From: JL
14-Mar-20
Sounds like his cameraman or sound guy dropped a dime on him. I suppose you could sea lawyer this and say his camera/sound guy was an accessory to this. He partakes in the deed and then turns. If he knew it was a baited field yet still participated in the hunt....I'm thinking the camera/sound guy could have some problems. He could have stopped the hunt or walk away and he didn't.

From: Glunt@work
14-Mar-20
I would say an employee who is coerced into an act by their boss and then comes clean afterwards would likely not get in much trouble in this type of case. They could be viewed as closer to a victim than perpetrator.

14-Mar-20
After reading the CO's report.. This dude is just a bad apple. Needs to be removed from our "community" now. By contacting his sponsors he should be off to another career.

14-Mar-20
I'd make sure he was guilty before I had him hanging from the galley.

14-Mar-20
Nice, Mark. Lmao. .....

From: Thornton
14-Mar-20
Anybody that leaves a whole deer to waste should be fined.

From: TreeWalker
15-Mar-20
In the courtroom, the ideal is presumed innocent until proven guilty. That is never the case but is the ideal. Humans make assumptions and judgements not based on proven facts. Only in a courtroom, though, is the innocent until proven guilty standard sought. I am not bound by such. Smoke. Smoke. Smoke. Fire.

From: Glunker
15-Mar-20
Not sure why his llc in KY was convicted in place of Greg. Seems like someone should have lost their US hunting rights through the multistate compact law.

From: ELKMAN
15-Mar-20
I'm so glad I don't even know who that is. I wouldn't "watch another man hunt" if you paid me to do it... Never understood grown a$$ men and hero worship. The team jersey with another mans name, or a bow with another mans brand/edition on it. Huh? Go figure...

From: BTM
15-Mar-20
LOL Bowfreak! I also wondered what "wonton waste" was. Thanks for the explanation. :)

From: LBshooter
15-Mar-20
Well, what should be the punishment for a second time offender if he is found guilty? I think a 2 year ban on hunting and fishing. Baiting which is clearly illegal and waste, two violations that are basic to every hunter. This guy is a "professional" maybe a message should be sent. Now, if the courts don't punish to make him go straight in the future we as hunters should rethink using any product or products he sells or is connected too. I guess we'll have to wait til his court date but it will be interesting to see.

From: YZF-88
15-Mar-20
Even with as much as I complain about this stuff. The fact remains the presumption of innocence and the judicial system is a big part of what makes the USA great. Yeah it's not perfect...but far better than anywhere else.

With that said, I've seen judges going light on people that make a living in the industry. Easy case to find recently is in Utah where a guy from Muleyfreak cried to the judge after he got caught trespassing and killing an elk on private property...FOR THE SECOND TIME. He got a slap on the wrist "because his family depends on him". That's what this crap has come to. People like this will do anything for a YouTube subscribe or Instagram view . Yes I'm bitter because two different asshats outed my favorite area for archery deer and elk on each platform respectively. Carry on. I've picked up an old hobby after a 15 year hiatus to distract myself from this stuff and wait for draw results. Time to go to the motocross track!

From: JL
15-Mar-20
"I told some famous, ( like who cares), when you start naming your deer, I am leaving,"

Never was a subscriber to giving deer names. That was a little too juvenile for me. It reminds me of something little kids do with their invisible friends.

From: Thornton
15-Mar-20
I'll call them something purely for identification purposes like that "Big 9" but I never name them.

From: t-roy
15-Mar-20
Some of the bucks I name, SEEM like invisible friends!

From: bigswivle
15-Mar-20
Yikes. Sounds like he pi$$ed someone off

From: BTM
15-Mar-20
Can't wait for the memes to start.

From: KY EyeBow
15-Mar-20
People don't change..........................

From: kscowboy
15-Mar-20
A friend of mine shared elk camp with him and had nothing but nice things to say about him. I’ll wait for this to shake out before passing judgement.

From: Jaquomo
15-Mar-20
As a former LEO Park Ranger and now doing fishing code enforcement, I love reading CO reports like this. Especially when the guy is outright lying (coyotes?!).

I recently fined a woman $600 for passing her fishing license back and forth between three nonresident friends so they could fish. Her excuse was, "What does it matter? I wasn't fishing..."

From: Native Okie
15-Mar-20
You know he was on the other end of the phone sweating "uh, coyotes got to it" sitting there thinking its been a week or two, coyotes surely got it.

From: Zbone
16-Mar-20
The few shows I seen with him in it, didn't care for the dude's arrogance and attitude, matter of fact - couldn't stand the dude...

16-Mar-20
Says he didn’t know about corn/bait??? Says coyotes got a portion of the deer? Perhaps he had his days mixed up from traveling and if coyotes got a portion of the deer?? Are yous saying you would have eaten the deer? How many would take a deer home and eat it that coyotes chewed on?

And by the way, for the men in pink panties who went behind this mans back and wrote your statements, your cowards... you should have called out the man personally face to face like a man and told him what you were going to do if he didn’t do it first...CI 1 and CI 2...if I did that... which I wouldn’t in your CI fashion, I’d want to remain unknown to, something like that is a BAD thing to have attached to your name, careful there, CI’s you may become bait? We still live in a day when this stuff catches up ... sooooooo many today will say anything about anyone, especially if it helps them get out of trouble... so CI 1 puts out the corn, CI 2 knows this and yet records it, are you kidding me... no worries just write a statement, a real good one about him and you will remain Unknown and be set free, another great perversion of our law Enforcement.... this act is committed daily in America and is a cowardly act by all involved.

I’m all for correction when needed in a persons life but stop and think of this... we have thousands of people... yes people who struggle bad daily with diver things, addictions, hunger, the list goes on and how many are passed up and left that way without a stopping and lending a hand to share... but let something be done wrong to a deer and look at reactions...America what have you become! You think about this. Once again DNR has rules for a reason and they should be followed if you enter their world but relax and allow courts to take care of this. God bless America!

From: Boreal
16-Mar-20
WOW!

From: APauls
16-Mar-20
LOL....OK

But also, yes, if a coyote or eagle or anything for that matter starts at an animal I remove the untouched portions and eat them. I've had it once where I lost half a deer to eagles and once where I lost some to coyotes, but I didn't leave the rest. Tasted fine by the way.

From: 1boonr
16-Mar-20
Tobpitbull- Greg knows who ci1 and ci2 are. The game warden saw the deer the next day and it was not chewed on. The cameraman might have a tougher time getting work for people who think they might commit a infraction in the future

From: Dpat
16-Mar-20
Tobpitbull, So the people who turned him in are the bad ones? That is some jacked up thinking,

From: bigswivle
16-Mar-20
Sounds to me like the people who turned on him knew what he did was wrong

From: 4nolz@work
16-Mar-20
If the cameraman knew about the bait that is collusion right? Sounds suspicious.

16-Mar-20
Think about what I posted before you post your thoughts please... CI 1 puts out corn... CI 2 films hunt.... both of these are just as at fault if there is fault, differences is they write a statement on whoever Gregg is.... not my business about the man, he don’t pay my bill, and I don’t pay his.... I’ll remind you, there was a time in America when you went BEHIND someone’s back and said things about another person, especially with that person not being present, you got your but whooped, spineless people who can’t look someone in the eye and tell them their fault are the breakdown of men we use to have in America...if the man who put out corn was a person of decency and integrity he’d said no, it against the law... but he did apparently put corn out? IDK.... The camera man filming if he was a decent man and possessed integrity would have said no, I’m not filming this, it’s illegal, but he did? IDK... but somehow they DO WRITE A STATEMENT OF WHAT ANOTHER DID WRONG, when they were themselves, ha... we have a word we use to call such... you can figure that out.

From: t-roy
16-Mar-20
The deer was shot, found, and, evidently, field dressed before taking field photos THAT EVENING! Decided to leave the deer in the field overnight and come back the next morning to take more photos. Who does that??!! Hard to believe coyotes DIDN’T get to the deer, even after several days, but why even take that chance?

Who’s decision was it to leave the deer lay after the photo shoot, pit bull??

From: 4nolz@work
16-Mar-20
Not sure why it was left overnight? But the TV shows commonly do wait for pictures etc in daylight they even "position them" for photos before rigor mortis sets in.Ive seen that firsthand.

From: Jethro
16-Mar-20
Tobpitbull, there was a time in America when a person was responsible for his own actions. Sadly that is no longer the case.

From: LKH
16-Mar-20
Tobpitbull. Go back and read the officer's report. The field was baited at Ritz's request.

From: Highlife
16-Mar-20
Toppitbull me thinks one protests too much eh?

From: Busta'Ribs
16-Mar-20
What a load of bull$hiz this thread is. Starts with Ritz. He’s a total pile of warm, runny fecal matter. Ok, innocent until proven guilty, I know. But he’s been found guilty b4, and we have the CO’s statement in B&W, so I’m gonna go with that on this one and call it a day.

Then we have the two wingmen. One throws the corn and the other films the illegal “hunt”. Assuming the cameraman knew about the bait, they’re both guilty too, even if one or both dropped the dime on Ritz, as they are participating in a hunt.

And finally, we have TPB, who somehow seems to imply Ritz has been victimized by the “spineless” cameraman and corn-slinger, because of some sort of misguided good-old-boy man code violation. Gimme a break...

Am I really the only one that thinks everyone involved in this mess should be held accountable?

From: JL
16-Mar-20
"Am I really the only one that thinks everyone involved in this mess should be held accountable?"

X2....kinda wondered that myself when I posted a similar thought earlier. Of course that is the old military thinking coming out. I was groomed that if someone knowingly lets someone else break the rules and does not stop them or at least call them on it at the time....they are just as culpable. Having said that.....the prosecutor could have granted them immunity to roll over on the guy with the bucks ($$). I suspect more will come out down the road. I bet the other hunting celebs are getting a little nervous about their camera and sound guys.

From: RutnStrut
16-Mar-20
I don't know Gregg Ritz personally. But I will say he comes across as a good guy and a great father. I don't care for most hunting shows anymore. But I do enjoy Huntmasters. His shows featuring family and friends are some of my favorite. Remember people, innocent until proven otherwise. But I suppose all those casting judgement are squeaky clean and have never done anything illegal or immoral.

From: Highlife
17-Mar-20
Nothing I got busted for twice ;) lol

From: Supernaut
17-Mar-20
"Innocent until proven guilty" only applies to our legal system. I don't put a lot of faith in our legal system. I come to my own opinions. My opinion won't get you much but it serves me just fine.

From: 4nolz@work
17-Mar-20
guilty until proven innocent eh Supernaut? I heard a rumor that you.........(fill in the blank).This thread is a dogpile guys get their kicks in while they can.I'll wait for the legal resolution.

From: Supernaut
17-Mar-20
nolz, I never said "guilty until proven innocent". I said I form my own opinions. I made no mention of the accused or my opinion of his guilt or innocence. I don't participate in dog piling or getting my kicks in on anyone in "real life" so I sure won't do it on an interweb hunting forum.

From: Busta'Ribs
17-Mar-20
First of all, no one should ever feel sorry for Ritz, or anyone else for that matter that chooses to live their life in the limelight. If you make a conscious decision to become a celebrity you accept the baggage, fair or not, going in. Ritz is a big boy.

Believe me, I understand how important the "presumed innocent" principal is to our legal system and our society in general. And I admit it is possible the CO may be a bad guy and have an axe to grind with Ritz, and yea, maybe the field baiter and camerman hated Ritz too and these three guys conspired to set the poor guy up. A stretch, but possible.

But Ritz has plead guilty to multiple Lacey Act violations in the past (in 2009, I believe). And somehow, he continues to "promote" our sport on TV, defrauding unsuspecting and misinformed guys like RutnStrut, who while admitting not knowing him personally, feels that Ritz "comes across as a good guy and a great father". Good guy? Great father? Really? Does a good guy and a great father plead guilty to multiple Lacey Act violations?

So, I realize Ritz hasn't been found guilty of anything yet (at least not regarding this latest offense), but this is a public forum where we post our opinions. I've posted mine regarding whether or not I believe Ritz or the CO. But here is something else to think about. Why are some guys that are clearly bad apples able to continue to thrive in the hunting industry, while other guys are instantly banished for life?

I mean, Greg Ritz plead guilty to multiple Lacey Act violations over ten years ago and his career has blown up since then, and poor Chris Brackett shoots one too many deer on video, and poof, he never even existed...

17-Mar-20
Sounds like he might have " SMOKED " himself this time. Man I hate that phrase.

From: midwest
17-Mar-20

midwest's Link

From: bb
17-Mar-20
"If the cameraman knew about the bait that is collusion right?" Not so sure how the camera man can be viewed as an accessory. If the camera man is there to film the activities and not participate in the hunting. I wouldn't think he wouldn't even be required to know the hunting laws, let alone be held liable in any way.

From: Busta'Ribs
17-Mar-20
How many times have you watched a horn-porn episode where the cameraman tells the celebrity all-star that a big buck is coming? A lot of the time time the cameraman is actually the more effective hunter. It’s almost impossible to sit in the same blind or tree with a guy and not participate in his hunt.

From: 4nolz@work
17-Mar-20
I always felt the camera guys in Iowa should have to draw tags.They help the hunter and "participate" I was told by a warden if you didn't have a legal tag you couldn't even help bloodtrail or drag out.

(Off topic)

From: 4nolz@work
17-Mar-20
Supernaut my apologies if I misinterpreted your comments.

From: JohnMC
17-Mar-20
I have broke the law many times if it is illegal to help bloodtrail and/or drag/pack out a animal shot by another hunter. I doubt a warden said that if he did he needs to go back for additional training.

From: Supernaut
17-Mar-20
nolz, No worries and no apologies necessary. The written word is easy to construe, especially on a forum platform and perhaps what I wrote came off wrong as well. It's all good my friend.

From: 4nolz@work
17-Mar-20
John he said to my face.I think there is alot of officer interpretation.Probably would get dismissed by a judge.Maybe he was just trying to intimidate us who knows.He was a jerk honestly.

From: JohnMC
17-Mar-20
What state was that?

From: 1boonr
17-Mar-20
4nolz- he might have told you that you needed blaze orange to participate in a hunt during gun season but there is no way it is illegal to help drag a deer out if you don’t have a tag

From: Bowfreak
17-Mar-20
"I mean, Greg Ritz plead guilty to multiple Lacey Act violations over ten years ago and his career has blown up since then, and poor Chris Brackett shoots one too many deer on video, and poof, he never even existed... "

I don't disagree at all with your premise Busta, but I can offer up an opinion as to why this is the case. People generally genuinely dislike Brackett and the consensus on Ritz is that he is a nice guy. Perception goes a long way in our society. I don't have an opinion of Ritz other than the evidence sure looks damning to me.

From: Busta'Ribs
17-Mar-20
Precisely why I picked Brackett as my example. Man, what an unlikable character. Ritz, on the other hand, has this Clark Kent like persona.

From: 4nolz@work
17-Mar-20
1boonr I know what he told me I was there,he was full of sht and carries a badge.

From: Patdel
17-Mar-20
Wardens lie all the time. They do it to bluff people into admitting to stuff. Cops do the same. They must teach them that in the academy.

Now when it comes to legal documents and testimony, one would hope the vast majority are honest. But I'm sure there are a few bad apples out there.

I'm giving Ritz the benefit of the doubt for now.

17-Mar-20
Just because someone seems like a nice guy, doesn't mean you can trust them. Intelligent psychopaths just learn how to imitate good behavior.

The BTK killer had a family and was a respected man in his local Luthern Church. For decades.

For all we know, any one of us could be a cannibal or wear pink thongs.

From: Bowfreak
17-Mar-20
You don't wear pink thongs Ike?

From: Glunt@work
17-Mar-20
Most of us know more than a few sociopaths. They aren't axe murderers, they have a weak conscience, little empathy, and easily rationalize lying or advancing at the expense of others. Quite often they are smart and charming. Not uncommon for them to be successful or famous. Not diagnosing Mr Ritz, never met him and no experience with anyone who knows him personally. I worked in the outdoor industry including hunting shows for very long time and like every industry, there are some classic sociopaths who have been at the top of the game at one point or another. Some ride the edge and have a long, productive career. Others leave a wake of disaster that repeats its self a few times with a new show, new product, new company, etc. until they move on to some other industry.

From: BTM
18-Mar-20
The other day I saw that his show was scheduled for the following day. I checked the next day; it wasn't on.

From: scentman
18-Mar-20
after reading this thread and with all that is going on in the world, all I can contribute is GET A LIFE!

From: Boreal
18-Mar-20
He's still a member of "Team Mathews".

From: ROUGHCOUNTRY
18-Mar-20
From what I read, the most incriminating part was the warden examining the untouched deer after 3 days which was photographed and gutted for the TV show and Ritz's following statement. "It was eaten by coyotes so we didn't take it." The warden called him without revealing he'd already seen the deer and before Ritz "lawyered up".

18-Mar-20
"You don't wear pink thongs Ike?"

I'm more of a Flo Yellow thong guy, myself.

From: SteveD
19-Mar-20
Glunt your right on about the sociopath analogy. Unfortunately I' ve seen or experienced that in health care field also. Like the song says"smiling faces they pretend to be your friend"...

I apologize for getting off the subject some.

From: joehunter
19-Mar-20
All I have to say is - why not eat the deer. Lots of places to drop off a carcass so it can be utilized. Still lots of hungry people out there.

From: LBshooter
19-Mar-20
The only way guys like this learn is to hammer them hard, no hunting for three years. Another way is to go to his sponsors and tell them that if they support outlaws you will not buy their products, the fact that he was so blanently lying to the warden about leaving the deer if true says it all. Time to drop the hammer and hopefully the judge will. Maybe some local hunters show up outside the court house and and protest the bum, might be effective.

From: bowbender77
19-Mar-20
If he is found guilty then three years would not be much for a second time offender and should be at the least 5 years with big fines and maybe some time in the box. imo

From: MQQSE
19-Mar-20
It’s really sad for obvious reasons. Beyond that though, in this day and age, anyone who does this and bases their profession on it must be the stupidest most arrogant idiot in the world. Assume someone is watching all the time and you will make the right choice. Ethics.

It’s amazing how stupid people are. More so, it’s sad that they would do things like this IF they thought they would get away with it.

From: HH
20-Mar-20
Judge should put a Disclaimer on all his old shows and his new ones. Taped by him saying " Before watching understand I am a convicted US Game and Hunting violator".

After , being convicted of course.

K

From: bowbender77
02-May-20
His court date was April 29. Any word on the outcome ?

From: GF
02-May-20
Maybe the guys who turned on this character had called him out repeatedly and decided that it wouldn’t stop until they documented that an actual crime had been committed? If they had called him out before and his answer was “do it or you’re fired”, then who’s the coward?

‘Cuz I gotta tell ya...

If I was working with someone who expected me to go along with something illegal as a condition of my employment, I would not settle for handing the authorities just enough evidence to get a conviction on a charge of “attempted”....

One thing that comes through loud & clear on this thread is that there are still plenty of fan-boys in this world who are more than happy to align themselves with those who cheat.... as long as those cheaters are winning.

What disgusts me about the Celebrity hunters is that - even though the best thing I can say about any of them is I have basically zero interest in them or their exploits - there are plenty of attitudes and practices which they help to promote which not only fall between Annoying and Infuriating on my personal tolerance scale, they nonetheless reflect poorly on ME and every other honest Hunter.

It’s about as fair & reasonable as allowing the actions of drug dealers to reflect poorly on that nice, young lady who was Aint Bea’s pharmacist down in Mayberry, but most non-hunters are too honestly Ignorant of the differences.., and the Antis are just all too happy to exploit that.

It’s kind of like that old saying about how “the enemy of my enemy is my friend“. That’s wrong. The enemy of your enemy can be convenient at times, but only until the SOB turns on you. Your friends are your friends even when their doing the right thing is not that convenient for you.

So anyway… If this guy really did what he’s accused of here, and it’s not the first time? I hope he won’t be able to get a job behind a fishing counter at Dick’s when this is all finished.

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Just came back to make a quick edit… This kind of stuff makes me so mad that I have to recognize that I took that one a little too far. But I really do hope that this guy’s career in anything related to the outdoor industry is at 100% completely Done.

From: drycreek
02-May-20
GF, I liked it better the first time.......

And what disgusts me about the celebrity hunters, (most of them anyway), is.......everything.

From: GF
02-May-20
Nope. Leave the kids out of it.

That was too much.

From: RK
02-May-20
"Any brushes with greatness"

Here is your example.

Pathetic but it will continue as it always does

03-May-20
https://thehuntingnews.com/gregg-ritz-releases-statement-on-pending-charges/

03-May-20
The statement is a full blown joke. If you read the transcripts by the officers you’ll see that. This man should never be allowed to hunt again due not only to this but primarily his body of work.

From: BC173
03-May-20
It’s his reputation and he has earned it. Another black eye for hunters to deal with. It just amazes me that companies keep sponsoring this criminal.

From: Glunker
03-May-20
He touts himself as an olympic level shooter. Any idea what he has done in that regard

From: JL
03-May-20

JL's Link
He is still updating his FB. It might be wise to step back for a sec and find out how his trial ended up. To me...the charges seem pretty solid. However things change when it gets into court.

From: Highlife
03-May-20
Your not an Olympic level shooter unless you did it. Doesn't mean anything if you think you are.

From: t-roy
03-May-20
I read a couple of comments on the link that JL posted.

He evidently shot an ibex somewhere. One guy posted “Sweet ibex! This one left to rot too?”.......OUCH!!

From: JL
03-May-20
^...ya, there are a few of drive-by commenters flaming him. There are also alot of supporters posting there too. I'm thinking it's wise to wait till he has his day in court and then go from there. It appears the April 29th deal was just a hearing. If he plead not guilty, then I suppose a trial date was set at he hearing??

From: Spiral Horn
03-May-20
Very sad and being that he’s so well and broadly known some may use it to cast shadows on our sport at large. From a pure law enforcement perspective it’s a very strong case against him - illegal bait and wonton waste physically verified; picture posted by subject matched to both animal and site; testimony of both cameraman and person hired to plant bait; video of subject killing the animal at the baited site; and, the subject lying to LE and then immediately recanting/confessing when confronted with evidence.

Cases don’t usually get much stronger than that.

While I completely disapprove of Greg’s actions and judgement here, he and others in the hunting-show Industry are under tremendous pressure to produce results that captivate audiences and bombard viewers with images of the sponsor’s products in action. That kind of advertising sells a lot of gear, and there’s fierce competition for shows to get and keep sponsors. But this kind of BS just isn’t good for our sport and shouldn’t be supported or tolerated.

03-May-20
My guess is a settlement and court won’t mean a thing..

From: spike78
03-May-20
Spiral Horn it captivates me more when they show a quick kill and video of the recovery when the animal is down even when it is dark out. I’d rather see the deer in the dark then a rotted deer in the light. These tv hunters are sad period!

From: JL
03-May-20
Spiral....I was thinking the same thing...the evidence appears to be very, very strong. However...in another famous case everyone thought was a slam-dunk....there was a bloody glove and blood in the Bronco and OJ got off. That's what gives me a little pause about e-convicting on a hunting forum. Ya don't know...until ya know.

From: Spiral Horn
03-May-20
JL - while you are technically correct, based on the volume of incriminating facts and evidence presented to the court, including Greg’s admission/confession to the first charge, his legal team has their work cut out for them. Unlike the other case you referred to - here there are multiple eye-witnesses, video of the event, contemporaneous pictures of the subject at the crime scene which he later posted on social media, a plethora of physical evidence, not to mention any evidence not yet public (electronic evidence, etc), as well as the subject’s admissions as to the first charge.

It looks pretty bad for Greg.

However, it is possible that the entire story and the plethora of supporting evidence is a fantastically elaborate fabrication coordinated between the witnesses and CO. That’s why folks have their day in court. Personally, I have nothing against Greg. But the strong case presented against him as well as his previous convictions for multiple wildlife offenses stop me from just taking his word that he didn’t do it.

Lastly, I’m just sick and tired of being challenged to accept or explain behavior like this to the non-Hunting public or fledgling hunters.

From: Spiral Horn
03-May-20
System double-posted

From: GF
03-May-20
“ Lastly, I’m just sick and tired of being challenged to accept or explain behavior like this to the non-Hunting public or fledgling hunters.”

JMO... DON’T

Don’t accept it; don’t explain it away. It’s poaching, straight up. That’s not what we do. Not what we stand for. Just call it what it is and make it clear that it’s not acceptable.

From: Spiral Horn
03-May-20
GF - completely agree with you, my statement means that I do not accept and am not willing to explain it away.

From: Bowfreak
03-May-20
That sounds great GF but you will have no option when many of the people we come in contact struggle seeing a difference between a hunter and a poacher.

From: GF
03-May-20
Dude - you’ve gotta give people a little more credit than that... Anyone who can tell the difference between a bank withdrawal and a hold-up oughtta be able to grasp it.

From: Highlife
03-May-20
A struggle seriously? Not to someone who has morals let alone ethics !!

From: LBshooter
06-May-20
I can't wait for the huntng award show to come back lol what a joke, not sure they still do it. If they still produce it maybe they should have a category for best poacher or most wasted game. You hit these idiots in their pocket books, stop buying the products.

From: jjs
06-May-20
Money for nothing and the chicks are free, all I want to do is watch my Master Outdoors TV. Haven't seen it and do not care, the only show I want to watch is my own for better or worst, the latter is usual.

18-Jan-21
Was anyone following Greg's cases online in Missouri? Last I looked it appeared they got the testimony of the 2 witnesses withdrawn then there was to be a pre-trial hearing I believe Jan 21st and then a jury trial Jan 24th or 28th. Now when I click on the links I saved they come up blank.

https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/header.do?inputVO.caseNumber=460150&inputVO.courtId=CT13&inputVO.isTicket=false

The case numbers are 460149 and 460150.

From: bowbender77
18-Jan-21
Money changes everything.

18-Jan-21
In all my experiences in the corporate world I found that you have to hit folks like this in the wallet. A 50,000 or even $100,000 fine is affordable to them. I'm not sure where he made his money but find out what type of hunting products he represents and don't buy them. That is of course if he has committed these crimes

From: JL
18-Jan-21

JL's Link
He plead not guilty. Nothing shows up doing a search on the Missouri Courts website.

Charges dropped??

From: JL
18-Jan-21

JL's embedded Photo
JL's embedded Photo

From: WapitiBob
18-Jan-21
Without the two witnesses there is no case. I found the same missing case numbers last month and assumed it was dropped.

From: JL
18-Jan-21

JL's Link
If you're into horns...go thru the 229 pics on this ad. Don't know if he still owns it. There are some nice plots.

From: LBshooter
19-Jan-21
Does ritz have past convictions with game laws? Innocent until proven guilty is for the court of law, public opinion is different. With past violations it seems public opinion doesn't need to jump to conclusions. Somehow I feel a no contest plea in Greg ritz future.

19-Jan-21
There’s a letter from him personally stating that many got involved into gossip, and Mis lead others? A judge can deal with this right? Some Americans today are suckers to believe anything; we love as well to point the finger at someone else and belittle them before we know anything...forgetting that there are 3 fingers pointing right back at you! ....which the media has done with our beloved country, brain washing many as well persuading and influencing people to think/believe anything, time always has a way of sifting wheat from chaff ( truth from error); and here’s where character gets even worst, all those that slander and gossip, based of a suggestion and not facts... if he is cleared won’t have the decency to apologize about what they said...so what do they do? Do again to the next so called celebrity and the cycle never stops and sets a real good cowardly example for the next generation of hunters... ( and you say money goes a long ways, maybe/it does, but you say that off fact or opinion, there is a BIG difference) (I would not recommend at all this type of behavior of the accused if true) And no I don’t know this guy at all...but I know what I’ve read in these post and it almost seems many hopes it comes true even if false? Good morning America! God bless!

From: gohunt
20-Jan-21
I quit watching his show after he was hunting the Deseret and used horses to pack out his elk. I have been drawn and hunted there 3 times. They use UTVs and trucks to get anywhere needed. Last year my guide was telling me about one of the hunting shows that film there every year. They brought in horses, loaded the elk and filmed for about 100yds. Then they put the elk in the back of the UTV and drove down the mountain. He wasn't allowed to say who the hunter or show was.

From: bigswivle
20-Jan-21
He is unwatchable

From: Bake
20-Jan-21
So in Missouri, with Case.net, if a jury trial is set the courts take the case off of Case.net, so that potential jurors will not attempt, and will not be able to look the case up on Case.net.

So just because the cases are no longer on Case.net, does not mean it has been dropped. It could have been dropped, but it could also have been set for jury trial.

From: KY EyeBow
20-Jan-21
A leopard doesn't change it's spots......................................................

From: Slate
20-Jan-21
Who is Greg Ritz ?

20-Jan-21
Bake -good info to know. As I stated the other day the last time I looked up his case there was a pre-trail and a jury trial dates the end of January so your comment makes sense. I will check my links later this month.

From: JL
20-Jan-21
Someone posted on another site the defense asked to push the date back and it was granted. I think the post said June 2020. That should be public info if it's already been adjudicated.

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