NRA Joins Stop The Wolf
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Contributors to this thread:
yooper89 31-Mar-20
Owl 31-Mar-20
JL 31-Mar-20
HH 31-Mar-20
Bowbender 31-Mar-20
Ucsdryder 31-Mar-20
jingalls 31-Mar-20
Dale06 31-Mar-20
WV Mountaineer 31-Mar-20
Woods Walker 31-Mar-20
ryanrc 31-Mar-20
Trophyhill 31-Mar-20
WV Mountaineer 01-Apr-20
Woods Walker 01-Apr-20
HH 01-Apr-20
Woods Walker 01-Apr-20
KSflatlander 01-Apr-20
drycreek 01-Apr-20
HH 01-Apr-20
bowbender77 01-Apr-20
KSflatlander 01-Apr-20
HH 01-Apr-20
JL 01-Apr-20
Spiral Horn 01-Apr-20
KSflatlander 01-Apr-20
WV Mountaineer 01-Apr-20
HH 01-Apr-20
KSflatlander 01-Apr-20
RK 01-Apr-20
HH 01-Apr-20
KSflatlander 01-Apr-20
Ucsdryder 01-Apr-20
WV Mountaineer 01-Apr-20
HH 01-Apr-20
From: yooper89
31-Mar-20
That should be a pretty big deal for the STW and Colorado. Would imagine there's some big money being sent their way.

From: Owl
31-Mar-20
I'd rather the NRA stick to 2nd amendment issues.

From: JL
31-Mar-20
I'd rather they do 2A and get the price of NR licenses down in the western states. I guess I can dream....

From: HH
31-Mar-20
No, not really!

When the Wood Boogers kill off enough game species by promoting predators over large grazers there is no need for you, "joe tent peg", to have need for a gun any gun.

It is very much in the NRA’s interest to be involved in Stop the Apex Predators!

They, as I know, how much the one worlders, climate changers, wolfers are in with the mega techies, Soros’, MSers, Google Armys to change society one soccer mom at a time.

Thus, moving the public a click away from the gun at any and every turn they can.

NRA knows about incrementalisms.

This National Emergency currently has hurt Libs and one worlders in the fight against the 2A in ways they never imagined.

Will move Antis back 25 years in their fight against 2A.

Cheers

Stay clean Fellas

K~

From: Bowbender
31-Mar-20
"Will move antis back 25 years in their fight against 2A."

Great. 25 years ago we were enjoying the second year of the Clinton Assault weapon ban. Just sayin.....

From: Ucsdryder
31-Mar-20
Good! Why wouldn’t you want all the backing we can get?!

From: jingalls
31-Mar-20
Great job NRA!!!

From: Dale06
31-Mar-20
I’m a Patron NRA member. I’m glad they are tossing some money and support for this.

31-Mar-20
Me too. Where is Stix?

From: Woods Walker
31-Mar-20
As he's stated before WV, he, "doesn't know and doesn't care".

From: ryanrc
31-Mar-20
Gonna have to join the nra now.

From: Trophyhill
31-Mar-20
Good for all hunters when someone like the NRA joins the fight. How anyone could think otherwise is beyond me.....

01-Apr-20
Where could the STW coalition plan to spend the money the BHA is donating?

01-Apr-20
HH,

There will always be a need to own firearms, even if hunting is killed off, at least IMO.

From: Woods Walker
01-Apr-20
The 2A has NOTHING to do with hunting. Never has. Read it. It's about FREEDOM. Always has been and the most important tool we have to keep it.

From: HH
01-Apr-20
Not in the Mind of the Super Socialist.

Here's an example, Maybe I should have said in other post "move anti back 50yrs".

This China Wuhan mess starts and gets rolling here. Folks get a little anxiety and their chit wipe supply is Wiped Out ;) So, what do they do next, buy a 100lb bag of rice, or beans? nope.

My firends owns the big Gun shop that sits right out front of Gate 5 at Fort Campbell. I talk to him and he tells me whats going on in store. How Biz "greg" (not his name) he says its bat chit nuts. I ask why? He says I got lines of folks who have never seen a gun much less shot coming in! The all say "I want a gun" , I ask what kind of gun and for what purpose? The say " i dont care, I need a gun and bullets" ! He says "well you want a long gun or a pistol"? They say " I dont care just a gun and ammo". He says he's got "grandma's, grandpa's, welfare mothers, snap card holders, drag queens, lap dancers, soccer moms, ice skaters grandma's, all wanting a gun in rough times.

So, for all the Bernii supporters and Brady Bill VA residents. Think about that for a minute?.? If you in any other nation in world without 2A you are just meat in leather slippers when the chit hits the fan.

We all know the right to protect your life and your families lies with no GVT, that right is inheirent,given to us by our creator.

Do I think taking away gun rights is a goal of the Wolfers, yer damn right I do. Look who funds them worldwide.

K'

01-Apr-20
I knew what you meant. But like you are pointing out, that approach to eliminating firearms doesn't work, especially when dung hits the fan.

Defending one's stash of TP is right up there with hunting, lol.

From: Woods Walker
01-Apr-20
"Not in the Mind of the Super Socialist."

Which is EXACTLY why we have/need it and why the founders specified it.

From: KSflatlander
01-Apr-20
HH/WW- Is the current $2 trillion stimulus not “super socialism?” Are you against it?

From: drycreek
01-Apr-20
I agree that gun control advocates have been dealt a wounding blow, but hunting guns are not nearly all of the gun market IMO. No facts, just observations to back this up. Look at the advertising in gun mags, it’s overwhelming tactical firearms, self defense and fun guns. Hunting rifles have taken a back seat to “carry guns”, long range rifles for target shooting, and high dollar ARs.

I’m glad the NRA has taken a position, that’s part of the trio of rights that they should be protecting, ie. hunting, shooting, and self defense.

From: HH
01-Apr-20
Not sure what it matters what I think of stimulus $. Our entire GVT thinks its needed??

Me? No, not really as a fundmental of capitolism. Not sure what GVT has to to with picking winners and looser's but...... In a situation like this I think there are some industry that must stay working and alive.

Airlines, shipping, some equity markets, etc etc. These are must have in our nation.

I will be honest here. I saw this coming since Jan, when I saw the bug jump to Japan. Reading the white papers that the China Virus Docs wrote who disappeared laid it all out.

So, Have you heard form Slow Bow Joe Biden or Bernii since Pandemic actually became real for Dems? Are they still alive? Do they support 2A. I been life NRA member for 40yrs and I still donate. I don't donate just for my right. I donate for those soccer Moms who wanted a gun last week at gate 5. For that SS elderly man living in section 8 housing so he can take that toothpick out his eyelid and get some good sleep.

Stop the Wolf and NRA are certainly linked in the big scheme of gun rights for the republic and its citizens.

K

From: bowbender77
01-Apr-20
Spot on HH, couldn't agree more.

From: KSflatlander
01-Apr-20
HH- So socialism is sometimes good and necessary in the U.S.? It's not pure evil and communism?

From: HH
01-Apr-20
Saving equity and certain industry is essential to sustain whats left of our GDP.

There are individual Companies that have direct umpact on GDP.

There is a huge difference in guving grants and loans to industry to keep liquidity and equity markets functioning and a nation using large industry to fund socialist GVTs.

Case in pount German Auto Manufacturing. Has huge impact on GDP yes, but the GVT taxes them and the salaries at munimum 60% to fund Cradle to grave policy. Without It Germany is sunk.

What will Germany do to help the crippled Plants? Give them $. Hell no, GVT has none. All they can do is recind taxes forward. Will it be enough to save a little 80 million person nation? Prolly not. In the end the Socialist will take away services to folks who are not paying in any more. The most vonerable, the old, hadicapped.

Yeah , socialism really works great. If you have lived in a socialist country you have no idea WTH yer speaking too.

Look at what Sweden is doubg for its people right now! Not a damn thing. They are of the opinion its “ Allahs Will@ if you live or die. Social Utopia.

K

From: JL
01-Apr-20

JL's Link
A good plug for the 2nd Amendment. This happened yesterday in Deltona, FL.....not to far from where I'm at. The perp blamed it on smoking some bad dope. Watch the video.

Deputies: Florida mother shoots burglar who entered home because 'dinosaurs were chasing him' Published 1 day ago Florida FOX 35 Orlando

DELTONA, Fla. - A Florida man was shot by a mother of three after deputies say he broke into her Deltona home early Tuesday morning because he thought that dinosaurs were chasing him.

The Volusia County Sheriff's Office said this happened at a home on the 2600 block of Libby Court.

According to deputies, 32-year-old Joseph L. Roberts tried to break into the home around 5:45 a.m. by shattering a front window.

"The woman inside, a 42-year-old mother with several teenagers in the house, called 911, saying 'I don't want to shoot him, but I'm going to have to! Get out of my window! Get out of my window!'"

Sheriff Mike Chitwood said during a press conference that the mother gave White several verbal warnings to leave. When he didn't, she opened fire. Deputies say Florida mother shoots burglar during home invasion

The Volusia County Sheriff said that he was shot in the arm.

When deputies arrived, they say they found Roberts in the house -- and he had quite an interesting story.

"He told us that the dinosaurs were chasing him and he thought he got some bad weed."

White was airlifted to Central Florida Regional Hospital in Sanford with non life-threatening injuries after being shot in the forearm.

"He's lucky she was a bad shot."

Chitwood said they are seeking an enhanced penalty for committing a burglary during a national emergency.

"I guess the only explanation is watch where you're buying your weed at during this time."

From: Spiral Horn
01-Apr-20
In the years since buying the Great American Outdoor Show the NRA has been dipping its toe into hunting related issues. Probably a good thing for our sport but they’ll need to be careful in choosing what to support and what not to.

On wolf issues:

Been reading quite a bit about the Yellowstone Wolf Project, but it is very tough to get any objective review as almost every article author’s life-work is somehow tied to the public success of the project - career, grants, status in their scientific community, etc.

As a hunter, and someone who used to love seeing those huge Yellowstone Park Bulls roaming free, I really don’t see the benefit. OK, the National Park Service noted that the massive reduction in Elk has resulted in more Willows, which generates more habitat for songbirds and beavers. But at what cost? - 1993 = almost 20,000 Elk in Yellowstone Summering Zone - 2013 = less than 4,000 Elk Bet the Elk haven’t enjoyed it much. Not to mention the reduction in Elk and Moose recruitment both in the park and throughout Wyoming, Southwestern Montana, and into Idaho. Difficult to draw tags have been forever reduced as wolves don’t just stay within the park. So much for the studies that launched the effort.

The end result is many of our western herds and a whole generation (and maybe multiple generations) of hunters, and all the economic opportunity that provides have been devastated. In addition to widespread intimate emersion into the outdoor (uncontrolled). Be careful about supporting any organization that thinks this is a good thing as the real, long-term goal of many of these environmental groups is to severely limit (on their terms) or even eliminate all human intrusion into the our precious wild lands.

So, whether it’s the NRA, SCI, or the Congressional Sportsman’s Caucus, I’m all for any organization willing to stand up and fight against the wolves and for my right to hunt in the American Wilderness.

From: KSflatlander
01-Apr-20
HH- I’ll take that as a “yes” sometimes it’s needed and “no” it’s not evil or communism. Especially when it’s needed. Which is all evident by the social programs we have now.

01-Apr-20
Stix, tell us where the BHA is going to spend funds post election fighting ballot box wolf issues in CO.

From: HH
01-Apr-20
Big difference. I will educate you, between social programs and socialistic Gvt’s.

You can take however you wish.

If you have not lived in Socialist nation you have no way to compare. I have, several times. Its a shell game and it works until other people $ run run thin or you add millions of none paying residents to the rolls.

Do you have an issue with Medicare, medicaid, welfare, earned income credit?

You have to draw the line somewhere. So, medicaid alone over last 20yrs costs are close to what we will use for grants and loans to critical industry. Does this concern me, no.

If you wanna be a super woke socialist try Sweden. If you get CV dont expect much but a free trip to the incinerator because they will not spend the man hours, med supplies or ICU bed to save your life. They did excatly the same in 1918-19. Oh, you wont be defending your life in Sweden with house gun either. When that Sub Saharan refugee stick that 8” butterfly knife to your family members throat in a strong robbery your at his mercy.

K

From: KSflatlander
01-Apr-20
HH- whether I have live in a socialist country or not is a weak defense. Have you ever been a woman? If no, then you have no knowledge to comment on women’s issues. See how dumb your argument is?

The U.S. has many socialists programs. We have for almost 100 years. Yet I’ve seen you pound your chest for a long time calling Obama a socialist for the auto bailout. Now that Trump does it except its +10Xs bigger you say it’s ok.

By the way, I’m not advocating for socialist. Just pointing out your glaring hypocrisy.

The NRA wants to jump in on wolves in CO. More power to them. I’m not a member and never will be. Why? Just follow the money.

From: RK
01-Apr-20
So KS you are a member of BHA but you dont follow the money

Classic

From: HH
01-Apr-20
Then i would say you dont support 2A.

Obama motors was to big. It needed to get smaller. He pucked a winner. DJT had to use DPA on Gvt Motors to help Americans now.

just bought 1000 shares of Ford at 4.40$. Did not waste my $ on Gvt Motors becuase they were not going to support the war on the Wuhan! I can as a private cutizen see a winner and pick one. Was easy.

Why? cuz they, on own accord decided to build ventlators.

Good ol Capitalism at work.

I would submit if your not supporting the NRA your prolly not doing enough to save hunting rights for Americans goung forward.

I do love Libs who think OP $ is subject to the Gvt getting theirs first then, letting the wage earner keep a living wage.

NRA now should expand to these Endangered Species legal actions. Weather is a burrowing owl or a Grizzly.

The Wuhan virus has no doubt pushed the Brady Bill socialist hippies back decades.

Stay vigilwnt bowmen. Next three weeks are goung to rough in the Republic. Decon your stuff., your food and stay clean.

K’

From: KSflatlander
01-Apr-20

KSflatlander's Link
Sure I support the 2A and hunting rights. I do it every year by passing it on to kids who have never hunted. Every constitutional right has limits and boundaries. Even the 2A. We just likely disagree on those limits.

“Obama motors was to big.” $85 billion for the auto bailout. But you don’t think $28 billion for farmers and $2 trillion (so far) for COVID is too big. Now that my friends is hypocrisy.

I did follow BHA money and I have no issues with their decisions. Not so much for the NRA money in Russia and cozying up with a spy. Let alone Wayne LaPierre‘s spending. Like you always say “follow the money.” See link.

From: Ucsdryder
01-Apr-20
Lol it’s easy to follow the money with BHA. Just look at their stances.

01-Apr-20
Thanks Stix.

From: HH
01-Apr-20
If that was the case why would Dems hold up $ for folks trying to make ends meet over big Liberal pork and green new squeal project goals.

Also, if we are looking to come together why Adam Schiff want to investigate Potus in middle of the War in the Wuhan?

Libs gotta get use to seeing a Trump in Exec Brach for two more terms. With a super majority on SCOTUS.

They already know this. So, why throw monkee chit fit over DJT doing Yoemens Work on the China Plague?

Maybe he will give NRA free taxpayer funds as Covid relief too?

K

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