Good News- Covid 19
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Buffalo1 14-Oct-20
Bou'bound 14-Oct-20
12yards 14-Oct-20
Stix 14-Oct-20
Shiloh 15-Oct-20
midwest 15-Oct-20
WV Mountaineer 15-Oct-20
skookumjt 15-Oct-20
Norseman 15-Oct-20
'Ike' (Phone) 15-Oct-20
Bou'bound 15-Oct-20
Drahthaar 15-Oct-20
Bowbender 15-Oct-20
drycreek 15-Oct-20
Woods Walker 15-Oct-20
Chief 419 15-Oct-20
Woods Walker 15-Oct-20
From: Buffalo1
I got an email today and would like to share some contents. It may interest some of you.

"A professor of Pharmacy at U of Toronto sent this clearly worded update to his family.

For this pandemic there’s a greater chance of survival for those getting infected 3 months later like June 2020 than those who got infected 3 months earlier say February 2020. The reason for this is that Doctors and scientists know more about Covid-19 now than 3 months ago and hence are able to treat patients better. I will list 5 important things that we know now that we didn’t know in February 2020 for your understanding.

1. COVID-19 was initially thought to cause deaths due to pneumonia - a lung infection and so Ventilators were thought to be the best way to treat sick patients who couldn’t breathe. Now we are realizing that the virus causes blood clots in the blood vessels of the lungs and other parts of the body and this causes the reduced oxygenation . Now we know that just providing oxygen by ventilators will not help but we have to prevent and dissolve the micro clots in the lungs. This is why we are using drugs like Aspirin and Heparin ( blood thinners that prevents clotting) as protocol in treatment regimens in June 2020.

2. Previously patients used to drop dead on the road or even before reaching a hospital due to reduced oxygen in their blood - OXYGEN SATURATION. This was because of HAPPY HYPOXIA where even though the oxygen saturation was gradually reducing the COVID-19 patients did not have symptoms until it became critically less, like sometimes even 70% Normally we become breathless if oxygen saturation reduces below 90%. This breathlessness is not triggered in Covid patients and so we were getting the sick patients very late to the hospitals in February 2020. Now since knowing about happy hypoxia we are monitoring oxygen saturation of all Covid patients with a simple home use pulse oximeter and getting them to hospital if their oxygen saturation drops to 93% or less. This gives more time for doctors to correct the oxygen deficiency in the blood and a better survival chance in June 2020.

3. We did not have drugs to fight the corona virus in February 2020. We were only treating the complications caused by it... hypoxia. Hence most patients became severely infected. Now we have 2 important medicines FAVIPIRAVIR & REMDESIVIR ... These are ANTIVIRALS that can kill the corona virus. By using these two medicines we can prevent patients from becoming severely infected and therefore cure them BEFORE THEY GO TO HYPOXIA. This knowledge we have in JUNE 2020... not in February 2020.

4. Many Covid-19 patients die not just because of the virus but also due the patient’s own immune system responding in an exaggerated manner called CYTOKINE STORM. This stormy strong immune response not only kills the virus but also kills the patients. In February 2020 we didn’t know how to prevent it from happening. Now in June 2020, we know that easily available medicines called Steroids, that doctors around the world have been using for almost 80 years can be used to prevent the cytokine storm in some patients.

5. Now we also know that people with hypoxia became better just by making them lie down on their belly - known as prone position. Apart from this a few days ago Israeli scientists have discovered that a chemical known as Alpha Defensin produced by the patients White blood cells can cause the micro clots in blood vessels of the lungs and this could possibly be prevented by a drug called Colchicine used over many decades in the treatment of Gout. So now we know for sure that patients have a better chance at surviving the COVID-19 infection in June 2020 than in February 2020, for sure.

Going forward there’s nothing to panic about Covid-19 if we remember that a person who gets infected later has a better chance at survival than one who got infected early.

Let’s continue to follow precautions, wear masks and practice social distancing."

From: Bou'bound
Good can I cross the border now

From: 12yards
Honestly, my father in law survived it. He's 81, has terrible fibrosis in the lungs from rheumatoid arthritis. He needs oxygen to get out of his chair and get to the bathroom and back. We though if he got it, he'd be a goner. He got it, spent 5 days in the hospital, and survived it. I know it is different in everyone, but him surviving made me much less afraid of it. He got some of the treatments mentioned above. Not saying he won't have some longer term effects, but I never believed he'd still be with us.

From: Stix
Thanks for posting. Good information here.

From: Shiloh
Lot of information coming out about people who have had MMR vaccinations being less effected by the virus. Also if you had the mumps there may be some antibodies that help your cause. My father in law who is in his mid 70’s is very healthy and got it and has survived it with no major complications. We thought if my mother in law got it she was done because of her poor health. She has cared for him through his sickness and is fine. She had a terrible case of the mumps when she was a child. Not a doctor, but this is interesting. MMR vaccination is cheap too.

From: midwest
It'll all be over in a few weeks.


From: skookumjt
On or about November 4th.

From: Norseman
Or “they” have control over us now, and will never give up that control that fear can inflict on the public.

What amazes me in all this, is the average person can not get a test without jumping through hoops or paying for it yourself...In which case you may, or may not be reimbursed by your insurance...

However, every sports team seems to have enough test for everyday testing...Things that make you go hmmm!

From: Bou'bound
Ike don’t be amazed by what money will get you.

From: Drahthaar
Thank you for sharing. Forrest

From: Bowbender
"However, every sports team seems to have enough test for everyday testing...Things that make you go hmmm!"

And they are considered non-essential.

From: drycreek
I hadn’t heard that about the mumps. I had them when I was a kid, swelled up like a bullfrog. In retrospect, that might have been a good thing.

From: Woods Walker
And what's even better, is that the COVID death toll is WAAAAY lower than what we've been being fed by the government and the "news". Which means that ALL the COVID numbers are cooked. But don't take my work for it, just watch this short video.

From: Chief 419
It will be interesting to see what the requirements will be next year after the vaccine becomes available. Will a Covid test within 72 hours before arriving at your destination be required? Proof of vaccination? If you arrive in a country and test positive, will you be required to forfeit a kidney or liver? Just because a vaccine becomes available doesn't mean the hassle is going away anytime soon. 2021 can’t be worse than 2020.....maybe.

From: Woods Walker
X2 Pete. Since I was old enough to play outside on my own, I've been in dirt, as well as manure for that matter. I've made my living outdoors for 45 years now, and to this day if I get a cold once every 4 or 5 years that's a lot. And when I do get one it lasts a about a day or so.

I'm not a doctor ( I don't even play one on TV), but I know I'm not the only one like this.

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