DANGER, bow attached decoy?
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Contributors to this thread:
Paul@thefort 01-Mar-21
Glunt@work 01-Mar-21
Bou'bound 01-Mar-21
DanaC 01-Mar-21
DanaC 01-Mar-21
Rocky D 01-Mar-21
Smtn10PT 01-Mar-21
Bowboy 01-Mar-21
Scoot 01-Mar-21
Rgiesey 01-Mar-21
ki-ke 01-Mar-21
greg simon 01-Mar-21
Michael 01-Mar-21
elkmtngear 01-Mar-21
Screwball 01-Mar-21
jdee 01-Mar-21
kscowboy 01-Mar-21
Inshart 01-Mar-21
Buffalo1 01-Mar-21
Timbrhuntr 01-Mar-21
Bake 01-Mar-21
stringgunner 01-Mar-21
lewis 01-Mar-21
samman 01-Mar-21
Cornpone 01-Mar-21
Brotsky 01-Mar-21
smarba 01-Mar-21
Jaquomo 01-Mar-21
Jasper 01-Mar-21
Stix 01-Mar-21
badbull 01-Mar-21
Bob H in NH 01-Mar-21
Stix 01-Mar-21
Aspen Ghost 01-Mar-21
Ermine 01-Mar-21
Rgiesey 01-Mar-21
Scar Finga 01-Mar-21
IKE220 01-Mar-21
Brian M. 01-Mar-21
Two Feathers 01-Mar-21
sitO 01-Mar-21
GF 01-Mar-21
Paul@thefort 01-Mar-21
Matt Palmquist 01-Mar-21
Oryx35 01-Mar-21
Tonybear61 01-Mar-21
bowhunter24 02-Mar-21
DanaC 02-Mar-21
Timbrhuntr 02-Mar-21
GF 02-Mar-21
Paul@thefort 02-Mar-21
GF 02-Mar-21
Scooby-doo 03-Mar-21
Tradnut 05-Mar-21
MichaelArnette 05-Mar-21
Paul@thefort 06-Mar-21
DanaC 06-Mar-21
DanaC 06-Mar-21
From: Paul@thefort
01-Mar-21
Of those that have used a bow/or gun attached decoy (turkey, deer, elk, pronghorn,etc,) have you had any close/negative encounters of being mistaken for the real animal/bird by another bow or gun hunter, hunting that same species?? Just, a NO or a YES

The reason I am asking this question is, this subject of attaching a decoy to a bow/gun is an issue being presented to the Colorado CPW Commission by a Commission member. The issue paper shows that there has been no negative encounters but believes the Safety of the hunter might be a issue and wants to prevent any future accidents.

The alternative are,

1. Ban the use of decoys attached to bow /gun

2. ban statewide

3. ban only on public land

3. hunter must wear Hunter Orange hat.

4 Status Quo. NO regulation

From: Glunt@work
01-Mar-21
I'm ok with some laws that protect others from something stupid I might do. Not a fan of laws that protect me from my own stupidity. Not that a bow mounted decoy is stupid but the general idea of protecting me from myself doesn't sit well. The ability to risk our own safety, money, reputation, time, etc., is essential to accomplishing things.

From: Bou'bound
01-Mar-21
does getting blown into the next county on a windy day constitute a risk situation?

From: DanaC
01-Mar-21
Hey, I like the idea, let the stupids sort themselves out, Darwinian style. Some go to jail for manslaughter, some go to the grave. Win-win situation.

From: DanaC
01-Mar-21
Joking aside, you could probably work that on 1000 private acres, it would scare me to death hereabouts.

From: Rocky D
01-Mar-21
Only in America...

From: Smtn10PT
01-Mar-21
no

From: Bowboy
01-Mar-21
No

From: Scoot
01-Mar-21
No. People can get hurt hunting in a wide variety of ways- maybe it'd just be safer to ban hunting all together! Seriously, states shouldn't legislate stuff like this. People take risks thousands of times every day through the millions of micro-decisions they make. Do we want the state/feds legislating each of those as well? Nope.

From: Rgiesey
01-Mar-21
No regulation.

From: ki-ke
01-Mar-21
no

From: greg simon
01-Mar-21
No

From: Michael
01-Mar-21
No,

From: elkmtngear
01-Mar-21
NO

From: Screwball
01-Mar-21
No

From: jdee
01-Mar-21
Are the Colorado Commissioners all California transplants ? Sure sounds like something California liberals would come up with.

From: kscowboy
01-Mar-21
No. If a compromise has to be reached, the orange tape like the ones on the Ultimate Predator decoy would be acceptable. What good is the hat when you are hiding behind a decoy?

From: Inshart
01-Mar-21
NO.

Then lets ban tree stands - look at how many injuries from that.

As what has been posted MANY times - more likely to get killed driving a vehicle!

Government - "lets put another law on the books."

From: Buffalo1
01-Mar-21
Medical marijuana at its best !!

From: Timbrhuntr
01-Mar-21
no

From: Bake
01-Mar-21
No

From: stringgunner
01-Mar-21
No

From: lewis
01-Mar-21
I know 3 hunters that have been shot by another hunter during turkey season one lost an eye I certainly would not do it on public land to each his I just hate to see the government getting involved Good luck Lewis

From: samman
01-Mar-21
No People get shot just wearing camo. People get shot wearing hunter orange too.

From: Cornpone
01-Mar-21
No

From: Brotsky
01-Mar-21
Nope, used them on public and private with no issues.

From: smarba
01-Mar-21
No

From: Jaquomo
01-Mar-21
Paul, do you have the proposed paper? I can't find it on the Commission website. Great example of ignorance-driven policy.

So it will be fine to hold a decoy out in front, or hide behind one, or to wear my deer and elk hats (and others with Be The Decoy suits) so long as Velcro isn't involved? They want to outlaw Velcro?

No issues with me with any danger from any decoying, worn, bow attached, or any other way. I know one guy who had his Montana elk decoy stalked by the same guy and his wife two days in a row, but they didn't shoot.

From: Jasper
01-Mar-21
NO!

From: Stix
01-Mar-21
Paul, Do you have a link to the issue paper for this?

From: badbull
01-Mar-21
No, but a coyote did mistake me for a pronghorn once while using a decoy l made from an antelope cape (not attached to bow though).

From: Bob H in NH
01-Mar-21
I'd try it stalking pronghorn, with a bow, but never a gun

From: Stix
01-Mar-21
From what I read, it looks like CPW is on favor of prohibiting these decoys on public land.

From: Aspen Ghost
01-Mar-21
No.

From: Ermine
01-Mar-21
No regulation

From: Rgiesey
01-Mar-21
Seatbelts is my choice just can be expensivel

From: Scar Finga
01-Mar-21
NO!!..

This is Stupid, a Stupid Post and Stupid idea!! Be responsible for yourself!!! Be safe, be cautious, but you can't outlaw stupid!

From: IKE220
01-Mar-21
No

From: Brian M.
01-Mar-21
No, but only tried it once or twice on private property.

From: Two Feathers
01-Mar-21
No.

From: sitO
01-Mar-21
No...as long as the decoy isn't made of corn

From: GF
01-Mar-21
If i were to use one, I would be OK with it if it were safety orange on my side.

No way in rifle season, though....

From: Paul@thefort
01-Mar-21
GF, the only firearm decoy I know of is the turkey full strut tail that attaches to the barrel.

01-Mar-21
No

Lewis, were they using a bow mounted decoy?

From: Oryx35
01-Mar-21
No

From: Tonybear61
01-Mar-21
No, but talked to a guy at a public shoot once that got drilled by a charging antelope he didn't see . Stated if the decoy wasn't hard plastic would have gotten more than the few stitches he ended up with,

From: bowhunter24
02-Mar-21
No

From: DanaC
02-Mar-21
"...you can't outlaw stupid!"

It's been tried, but the truly stupid always feel they're above the law.

From: Timbrhuntr
02-Mar-21
So your stupid because you use a bow mounted decoy ? Thanks for your stupid opinion !! In Montana they won't let you use a crossbow in Turkey gun season but I follow that stupid law ! A shotgun is ok but a crossbow is unsafe too funny !! Montana officials couldn't even explain why just that it is . Seriously !! I know this is a crossbow statement but I ran into this beacuse I wanted to kill one with my compound, shotgun and crossbow stupid me.

From: GF
02-Mar-21
@Paul - I would want “my” side of the deke to be safety orange no matter WHAT the season.

I am not sure I would say that that’s what the law should be, but if I were going to use one, that would be my preference.

I lived in Wyoming back when you were allowed to drink while you were driving as long as you weren’t drunk.... and I have just enough libertarian tendencies to think that that makes pretty good sense.... but sadly, those libertarian sensibilities often run up against a lack of common sense....

From: Paul@thefort
02-Mar-21
GF, I understand. Any hunter has the OPTON to wear hunter orange IF they feel it is necessary while using such a decoy. One can surely spray paint the back side of the decoy, with Hunter Orange paint, if they feel the need. Just like bow hunters during the Colorado elk season, have the "option" to wear Hunter Orange during the overlap of ML rifle season. The other option is just do not use one. Having a Colorado regulation that prevents their use services no purpose, except as a "feel good" purpose for the author.

I want to thank you all for participating in this poll. my best, Paul

From: GF
02-Mar-21
“ Having a Colorado regulation that prevents their use services no purpose, except as a ‘feel good’ purpose for the author.”

Unless they think that banning decoys will decrease the harvest total… In which case it’s something of a Wolf in Elk’s clothing.....

From: Scooby-doo
03-Mar-21
No, use at your own risk!! Shawn

From: Tradnut
05-Mar-21
No

05-Mar-21
I’d say make people wear blaze orange. Especially with the muzzie season. There was a kid killed a few years back during the muzzie season if I recall

From: Paul@thefort
06-Mar-21
The young bow hunter from Colorado was hunting elk with his dad. An out of state ML rifle hunter, shot and killed the kid. The Minnesota ML hunters stated he " did a sound shot" at what he thought was an animal, under low light situation. No decoy involved. If one is a bow hunter during the ML season, one has the option to were hunter orange if one feels the need. I do sometimes apply a hunter orange pack cover to my back pack during the ML season. Sometimes a hunter orange hat.

From: DanaC
06-Mar-21
Paul, I *hate* that 'sound shot' BS. MaNy years ago me and a buddy took a young kid out on his first deer hunt, during gun season. He';d been listening to his a*** buddies and mentioned that 'sound shot' thing like it was a good idea. I straightened him out in a hurry. "You have a license to hunt antlered deer, not 'sounds.' What if that 'sound' is me taking a dump behind the bush? You might kill me, or worse yet, wound me. I shoot back."

The kid turned out ok ;-)

From: DanaC
06-Mar-21
Rules here are orange during gun seasons. During bow season, it's also bird season, so if you're on state property where they stock pheasants, an orange hat is mandatory. I hunt across the street from a stocked area, so I keep an orange hat in the truck. Needed it last year when I helped a buddy track a deer that crossed the street.

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