New Electric Endurance Truck
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Bowboy 05-Mar-21
DanaC 05-Mar-21
Overland 05-Mar-21
LINK 05-Mar-21
Grunt-N-Gobble 05-Mar-21
Woods Walker 05-Mar-21
Bowboy 05-Mar-21
12yards 05-Mar-21
Grey Ghost 05-Mar-21
trublucolo 05-Mar-21
Kodiak 05-Mar-21
IdyllwildArcher 05-Mar-21
GF 06-Mar-21
BULELK1 06-Mar-21
BULELK1 06-Mar-21
WapitiBob 06-Mar-21
JB 06-Mar-21
Will 06-Mar-21
LBshooter 06-Mar-21
Grey Ghost 06-Mar-21
bentstick54 06-Mar-21
Buskill 06-Mar-21
Ursus Hunter 06-Mar-21
Glunt@work 06-Mar-21
Grey Ghost 06-Mar-21
Olink 06-Mar-21
DanaC 06-Mar-21
Lawdy 06-Mar-21
Buskill 06-Mar-21
Lawdy 06-Mar-21
Woods Walker 06-Mar-21
grizz 06-Mar-21
DanaC 07-Mar-21
Jack Whitmrie jr 07-Mar-21
Bowfreak 07-Mar-21
WV Mountaineer 07-Mar-21
djb 07-Mar-21
DonVathome 08-Mar-21
12yards 08-Mar-21
Bake 08-Mar-21
Mint 08-Mar-21
From: Bowboy
05-Mar-21

Bowboy's Link
New Endurance Beta truck. You all better jump on this it only has a range of 250 miles. This won't work in WY unless you have a generator running in the bed. I guess all the Nonresidents will add on a couple days when heading out west.

From: DanaC
05-Mar-21
You mean a solar panel won't keep it going forever? Bummer...

From: Overland
05-Mar-21
Yes, but have you heard about the Double Nickel ranch for sale? It must be really important, since it's taking up 25% of my screen and the close button on it is very small and muted in color.

From: LINK
05-Mar-21
Not from New York are you? ;)

05-Mar-21
Oh look...... a truck for beta males. And appropriately named.

From: Woods Walker
05-Mar-21
So would these be considered "external combustion"? ;-)

From: Bowboy
05-Mar-21
I heard Ford is coming out next year with an electric F150.

From: 12yards
05-Mar-21
All I need to know is the towing range. How far can I get with my boat attached and still get home. And how about range in the cold.

From: Grey Ghost
05-Mar-21
600 HP. 7500 pound towing capacity. True 4-wheel drive. Handles like a sports car.

Sounds fun,

Matt

From: trublucolo
05-Mar-21
Yeah, a few times around the block, what a hoot. You can buy one to look cute in, then you can use your real truck for hunting any further than downtown.

From: Kodiak
05-Mar-21
Totally impractical and idiotic.

Take that out in the cold and it's range would probably be 125 miles. What kind of idiot would actually buy that?

Beta males that never leave the city, ever.

05-Mar-21
If you live close to work and have solar panels on your home, it makes some sense, but much more so for a car, not a truck, which you think of more as something that goes on dirt where charging stations are few and far between or towing.

My buddy loves his electric car. He has no electric bill, no propane/natural gas bill, and no gasoline bill. Took him 8 years to get into the black and now it's free money.

As the technology progresses, my guess is that the ranges will increase. 250 miles really only works for urbanites.

From: GF
06-Mar-21
I’ve got 500kw on the roof and a big outlet in the garage; previous owner had a Tizzle.... We just take the monthly discount.

Electric motors make a “truckload” of sense on a truck, because Instant Peak Torque. I would be BIGLY interested in a good hybrid truck or an electric commutermobile.... If I were a plumber, electrician or similar, working around town, an Electruck would be Da Bomb.

But I’ve driven an awful lot of 1,000 mile days - Denver or Laramie to Minneapolis was exactly 13:40 (including a car wash in Des Moines) until they raised the speed limit; last time I made that run, it was 12:00 flat.... and you just can’t do that in an electric..... Not until they have a 1,000 mile range (12:00 includes gas & pee breaks in North Platte, Lincoln & Des Moines).

But you know.... You guys crack me up. You claim to be fanatical about a sport/lifestyle that is utterly dependent on a clean, healthy environment, yet you act like anything that’s “environmentally friendly” will make your Manhood drop off into the dirt. As if running a diesel works better than Viagra and BUYS you “Alpha Male” status.

Helpful hint: you can’t buy it.

From: BULELK1
06-Mar-21
I like the looks of the Tesla Truck better though

Good luck, Robb

From: BULELK1
06-Mar-21

BULELK1's Link

From: WapitiBob
06-Mar-21
Probably makes sense for construction or building trades.

From: JB
06-Mar-21
Not sure why a post about a truck that doesn't make sense because of the short range would bring out the jackass in someone.

From: Will
06-Mar-21
Seems like a good first shot. As the technology improves, build on it. Or do more with hybrids for a while - instant torque but also self charging and what not. Regardless it still seems like a good first step.

And GF made me spit coffee out my nose, so you owe me a laptop man! :) ha ha ha!

From: LBshooter
06-Mar-21
It's a grocery getter, housewives will love it. I think maybe a bill should be passed to have Charging station at each trail head so that you can get home. Twenty years out, maybe, but now, I'll pass.

From: Grey Ghost
06-Mar-21
That Tesla truck looks like it was designed by a third grader. Impressive specs, though. 0 to 60 mph in 2.9 seconds? In a pickup? Wow!

I predict when the range and charging times improve, and these vehicles continue to outperform their fossil fuel competitors in almost every way, they will gain acceptance from the Neanderthal hunting crowd. Of course, you'll have to pry my gas guzzling old Jeep CJ out of my cold dead hands.

Matt

06-Mar-21
Has anyone ever heard what the life span of a battery might be before it won’t hold a charge anymore, and how much it would cost to replace when the time comes? Or is this not an issue with these batteries? I wonder how long a factory warranty will cover a battery, and if it catches on fire will warranty cover all damage to vehicle? Bummer to bumper? What about independent insurance companies? What coverage will they offer?

From: Buskill
06-Mar-21
I can thing of about 100 reasons to own a truck that have nothing to do with hunting and nothing to do with driving over 50 miles and certainly nothing to do with being “beta”. These comments are kinda silly.

From: Ursus Hunter
06-Mar-21

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You guys missed the Extended Range Option

From: Glunt@work
06-Mar-21
Out west it seems impractical but a lot of folks live in places where the bulk of what they do is within an hour of home. Range will improve. Electric vehicle still have environmental impact and you can bet that if/when we make the change there will be plenty of greenies throwing a fit and it will result in higher cost, lower efficiency and capability.

From: Grey Ghost
06-Mar-21

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I know it's a bit of a dichotomy, but you can charge an EV with a small inverter generator, like this Honda. Granted it takes a long time, and you'd only get about 15 miles of range for each gallon of gasoline burned in the generator, but it would suffice in an emergency situation.

Or, imagine a hunting camp where you routinely run a generator for your camper trailer lights and heater in the evenings. You could plug in your truck each evening and remain adequately charged to keep you running. You'd be burning the fuel in the generator either way, so you'd actually be conserving fuel in the long run compared to a gasser truck.

Matt

From: Olink
06-Mar-21
Electric vehicles are a boondoggle as big as putting ethanol in gasoline. Until an EV pickup has a 300 mile range in the cold and can charge in 10 minutes it will be nothing more than a paperweight in most of the US. Why there isn't a bigger focus on fuel cell technology for vehicles totally baffles me.

From: DanaC
06-Mar-21
The problem I see is with an already-stressed grid trying to feed millions of vehicles. Imagine the 'rolling brown-outs' of today multiplied across the US. I have electric heat and over the past 7 years my electric bill has more than doubled. And that's *with* a solar farm right up the street. I'm keeping my old Tacoma.

From: Lawdy
06-Mar-21
Look at overseas with a whole family piled on top of a moped. That is where we are headed. Those $50,000+ vehicles will be for the wealthy, plus, our grid is so vulnerable. An EMF can destroy virtually every vehicle out there except those not computerized. Mopeds, carbureted bikes, older vehicles will survive. We own 2 Yamaha TW 200’s, carbureted, 75 mpg, along with an old Allis tractor. Living mostly off grid, we don’t realize the power is out unless we drive down the road and see the neighbors lights are out.

From: Buskill
06-Mar-21
I can thing of about 100 reasons to own a truck that have nothing to do with hunting and nothing to do with driving over 50 miles and certainly nothing to do with being “beta”. These comments are kinda silly.

From: Lawdy
06-Mar-21
If this rush to electric vehicles is by total government mandate, then everyone will have to relocate to urban areas. Rural America will become the home of the wealthy. I hope that economics will prevail as car companies fail because people will not buy their vehicles. Those companies will lean on politicians to back off. Until owning an electric truck is as affordable as a gas or diesel truck, and has the range, Americans will not buy. If we continue our rush into a dependent, one party country, just like Russia, China, etc, then all bets are off. Agenda 21 will be our new normal. I expect the stimulus checks to repeat over and over as we become owned. I sure hope I am wrong, but looking at America now, I am fearful.

From: Woods Walker
06-Mar-21
I agree. The covid "crisis" showed them how gullible and sheep-like much of America now is, and they will exploit it to the fullest. The more power they have, the less freedom we have.

From: grizz
06-Mar-21
I have to drive over 50 miles to go to the grocery store, so to me, that comment seems kinda silly.

Lawdy I fear you are right.

From: DanaC
07-Mar-21
Seems like a lot of folks have forgotten the gasoline crisis from the 70's. Unless you have horses and a pasture you're at the mercy of the fossil fuel industry. The electric truck isn't going to change that one iota. If we converted every car and truck in the world to electric, how much more generating capacity would we need? I don't care if you're talking nuclear plants, coal, oil, biomass or gas-fired, kilowatts is kilowatts. You're gonna dig holes, and run pipelines and now add more transmission lines. TANSTAAFL!

07-Mar-21
No thanks, all I have to say.

From: Bowfreak
07-Mar-21
If there is any other option I'll never own one. Never.

07-Mar-21
Yeah, I can’t wait to see environmentalists heads explode when fossil fuel produced energy triples to meet demand for plugging in our vehicles.

From: djb
07-Mar-21
Time to start aggressively mining cooper and preciouses metals to fuel the green revolution.

From: DonVathome
08-Mar-21
Keep in mind range is probably at 70 degrees driving 40mph AND fully charging to fully discharged. It is best for the battery to never hit the first or last 15% - 20%. Batteries have come a LONG way - if they could double what they have now it would be awesome. I have had a Tesla model 3 for almost 3 years and the cybertruck on order.

Solar charging is worthless. I doubt a generator can do much at all - but maybe over a couple days running 24/7.

Currently they are not good for remote hunts or extended hunts. That said they are pretty amazing. Lot maintenance, LOTS of power and electricity is significantly cheaper then gas. I have yet to spend over $7.50 at a supercharger.

From: 12yards
08-Mar-21

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"Time to start aggressively mining cooper and preciouses metals to fuel the green revolution."

djb is correct. These precious metals are all being mined in other countries, some that aren't particularly fond of us. And did I mention it takes mining 500,000 pounds of material to get one 1,000 pound EV battery? How much environmental havoc does that wreak. Then what do we do with it once it is worn out?

From: Bake
08-Mar-21
Yeah what happens when we run out of Lithium? Do they know what a Lithium mine looks like?

I don't have any special bias against electric. Although I've adopted the South Park phrase, and refer to Prius vehicles as "Pious". Which I think is more appropriate

I looked and researched quite a bit into the Lexus Hybrid at one time for my wife. She drives 22 miles to work. But it's all highway, and the main reason I didn't get it. It only ran on electric under 40 mph. And we don't live in a city with city driving, so I didn't think it made sense.

I'm all for saving money. And if it is ever cost effective, it's something I'd be interested in

From: Mint
08-Mar-21
The electric rates on Long Island and NYC are insane. When you go to buy an appliance and it has that energy saver card showing how much you will save are rates are not even on the card they are so high. Electric vehicles and solar will have their time but how about the rest of the taxpayers not subsidizing the few until that happens.

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