As a former operator in both Afghanistan and Iraq, this administration is a national disgrace
110 Helicopters 42K attack vehicles 75K vehicles 208 aircraft 20 attack planes 599K weapons 25K grenade launchers
now claims it was all handed to him, like a jack in the box toy
thankfully for him, he has an orange scapegoat
"A report last month by the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) indicates that the U.S.-backed Afghan military possessed more than 150 aircraft.
This includes four C-130 transport aircraft, 23 Brazilian-made A-29 "Super Tucano" turboprop ground-attack aircraft, 45 UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters, and 50 smaller MD-530 choppers. In addition, Afghan forces were given more than 30 military versions of Cessna single-engine fixed-wing aircraft.
It's not clear how many of those aircraft are still in Afghanistan. Uzbekistan says that hundreds of Afghan troops fled there last weekend with 22 military planes and 24 helicopters."
history repeats itself, super deluxe style
And a mere footnote to his legacy is he took $10 mil from China, his son took $30 mil, and no doubt the Taliban has already sold jets & blackhawks to the Chinese for reverse engineering.
And I was lectured by one of them on how wrong I was about something the other day on this forum...
As far as Biden, is anyone surprised at his continued incompetence? Goes to show that experience doesn’t mean jack squat…. Trump surely wasn’t the best we as a country could put forward but Biden? Crap that’s like an embarrassment of historical proportions but at least he doesn’t say things to offend and irritate people….
He KNEW the media would attack him constantly and he STILL had the back bone to put himself in front the news and take the licks. He was accessible to the country!!! That alone goes a long way.
Now? We have a guy playing hide and seek
Maybe this is what we need to finally get people thinking straight, we can’t operate a country based on emotions. We have to speak the hard truths, answer the tough questions, and do what’s RIGHT not just what’s easy.
As society we have to get away from the me me me attitude, we need to think about future generations and how our decisions today shape the world tomorrow. We have to lose the selfishness!
Right now we killing ourselves because we are terrified of a virus. When statistics say our odds of death are slim. Years way back we had men that stormed the beaches with an almost known certain death! By percentage it was WAYYYY higher risk then this virus, and those tough people did it to make the sacrifices then and get it over with so their future generations wouldn’t have to!!
WHAT HAPPENED TO US???
Really, the changing a country’s leadership with terrorist thugs is not historically significant.
“They are truly heroes who should be honored and supported as such regardless of what political leadership did to put them in harms way, especially in recent days.”
Soldiers need to believe in what they are doing and to say that it will be forgotten is slap on the face of every American that died and all that served.
It is every Americans responsibility that their sacrifice and their service not be forgotten.
Lest we forget...
Instead we pissed a trillion dollars and many good lives down a rat hole. And both the Taliban and ISIS are conducting their business-as-usual tribal warfare. Except with more and better weapons.
Trying to blame this cluster* on -one- President ignores the complicity of the other 3 AND the puke-pot called 'Congress.'
PS the worse years for US casualties were during the Obama presidency.
Do you really think there isn't going to be more covid hysteria in 2022 to allow millions of mail-in ballots?? It's starting already. What makes you think it's gonna be any different 'next time?? Wake up to see results in the morning, and surprise.... there is a new winner.
The b******s have figured out that they can get away with murder.
This Afghanistan thing isn’t over yet, just getting started. And there will be more than American lives at stake. 10’s of 1000’s of Afghan lives too.
Being a female in Afghanistan has got to be Hell on Earth.
DanC, WTF do you really know about foreign policy?
You seem to act like you know everything regardless of the discussion. What exactly is your experience other than trolling on the internet?
You obviously know nothing about military planning procedures and have never sat in war room during those discussions or you would be asking yourself how the hell do you mess this up this badly.
Bottom line, decisions were made and we are realizing the results of those decisions.
“ Trying to blame this cluster* on -one- President ignores the complicity of the other 3 AND the puke-pot called 'Congress.”
If I remember correctly you blamed an awful lot on President Donald J. Trump! Your blame shifting is not merely laughable but appalling.
Such a tragic loss of brave Americans - my thoughts and prayers to the families.
You have failed your country and yourself for not taking the full responsibility of your right to vote with the level of seriousness that it deserves!
The main vulnerability with mail-in ballots is via ballot harvesting... which should be illegal everywhere, but which the democrats want to be expand and make legal nationwide.
There were several high profile arrests in Texas, for example, where health care workers at senior centers gathered hundreds ballots from their patients. In each arrest it was a democrat worker exploiting the system this way.
The problem with mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting (and drop boxes) is that you lose control of the chain of custody. Look up mailmen who have tossed boxes of mail in the trash, or kicked down Trump signs on video camera. People have bias to skew the election, including postal workers. Maybe especially [union] postal workers!
Now to answer your question no one is saying mail in ballots were the sole reason, but it can favor one side of one side is cheating.
I understand how mail-in balloting can be exploited. I just think believing that only one side has a monopoly on that exploitation is a little naive.
Remember though only one side is in favor of anyone and everyone can and should vote without proof of who they are.
Then dead people, non citizens, computers can all cast as many ballots as needed to win.
They thought they cast enough for Hillary and assured her she would win too. But they didn’t know the orange man would get that many votes.
So this time they made sure there were more than enough. Hence the reason A man that only campaigned briefly from the basement succeeded in drawing the most votes in history.
The entire premise of widespread mail-in ballots being necessary because of covid is a lie. It would be naive to think a person can't safely vote once in person, but can somehow go to Walmart every week shopping. Or that any boxes of mail-in ballots would somehow be 99-1 in favor of Biden, no matter what location.... people just don't agree in those ratios on anything, ever.
1. What was our mission there? It seems different Prez's.....different missions as Prez's come and go and time passes.
2. It's clear we never had a solid exit strategy as past Prez's chose to stay there. Prez Trump comes along and made a command decision to get out troops out and negotiated a specific, conditional departure with the Talli's and the Afghan govt. Then, Prez Biden comes along and changes the conditional exit that Prez Trump put in place. I just heard on the news a second ago, there are (and will be) rumblings coming out (leaking?) that Prez Biden was advised not to do what he did and he over-ruled his advisors. He made political decisions and not strategic decisions.
3. I think we will look at history down the road and come to the conclusion we should have redefined the Afghan mission from a "war" to a place where we have strategic bases located to look after our own interests.....regular bases like we already had/have in many other countries like in Europe, Asia, etc. We were in Europe for decades after the war and have been in South Korea for decades after that war, We've been in Greenland (and until recently Iceland) for decades too. So having strategic bases to protect our interests is nothing new.
4. We need to figure out what to do with the U.N. They're about useless IMO.
At that time Trump was, imo, the worse of a bad lot and yeah, I did focus on him. Now that he's mostly a bad memory I have time and energy to criticize the rest of the reptiles.
If Biden had stuck to Trump's plan and pulled out in April instead of August, would the results have been different? Better? If Trump had won would he have stuck to the date he committed to? With better results?
Bottom line...you voted for it...you own it! That is, unless you're starting to think the election was bogus?! This is who you, and the majority of the country SUPPOSEDLY elected to save the world...you might as well own it. I just find it humorous that you libs are suddenly acting as though you're appalled by this. Up until now you simply applauded his bumbling geriatric performance as "presidential".
“ Regardless of what party you’re aligned with this will turn out to be a mostly meaningless 20 year war as far as history is concerned.”
The only real virus this country is suffering from, and needs to eradicate, is the left wing lunacy that you folks support.
" The only real virus this country is suffering from, and needs to eradicate, is the left wing lunacy that you folks support. " I feel exactly the same about the alt-right-wing lunacy spewing so freely. Microchips! lmao! Taken your horse de-wormer yet? Latest says it works best as an enema ;-)
PS you're *still* implying that you *know* how I voted and I'm still calling bulls* on that one, bub.
Damn right...and growing stronger everyday! Now, you better get back to your masks and vaccines...dozens of people are counting on you to save their lives.
And now, biden is a worse reality...
And I love how the 'narrative' has become 'Trump lost because of mean tweets.' Oh honey child, just no.
If you think we don't know how you voted after everything you have said in the past, all the ridiculous oppositions to the vast majority of this forums entirety. Than you my friend are more jingle brain than you sound. LoL
You should probably sit these next few days out bud.
Now we're hearing that the admin gave the taliban the names of the individuals they wanted to evacuate. Hang a target on them Joe, phking moron.
As a veteran, I am about as pissed off as I have ever been. Hands are shaking typing this so the backspace key is getting a workout. Pelosi is still working her bullshit behind the doors deal to kick another 3.5 trillion in debt up our asses. the admin is still beating the Covid 19 BS into our heads in the hopes it deflects from the absolute shit show going on in AFG.
Open borders, letting in millions unvetted. Infected. With this chaos, Isis-K, LMNOP etc. could very easily get in and sew terror. Dear god the stupidity with this bunch, SMH.
A friend of ours young son was flown over there last week and saw some of horrors going on at that airport that is not being reported. My nephew is a blackhawk pilot with the 10th mountain division who is sitting on hot standby right now. He cannot say much as you can imagine. I am worried and pissed.
I fear this president and his staff are in no way competent enough to lead us on this matter or any other matters that are beneficial to the survival of this great nation.
God bless all and pray for a better tomorrow.
Blame shifting was Adam's choice in Eden when trying to hide his guilt. America today has a majority of moral delinquents. The Declaration of Independence, while voicing an independence from other nations, affirms that our rights come from the "laws of nature and nature's God. Thomas Jefferson predicted that slavery, a moral injustice upon mankind, would be the issue that would break the union of states and he was proven right. You may live in America apart from God, but America cannot continue if God is ignored. What you don't know about God is an ignorance that has consequences. The present moral shortcoming of America today is a banned subject on Bowsite and will close any thread mentioning it.
It is easier to make a buck, than to make a difference." - Tom Brokaw
"Society without religion is like a ship without a compass." - Napoleon Bonaparte
100% any system short of showing up in person with a photo ID checked against a voter registration records and leaving behind a manually auditable record is open to fraud.
There seems to be plenty of religion in Afghanistan! We cater to the religious fanatics of the world as they murder the innocent, all while denying our own citizens the right to religious freedoms! Seems as tho it's the lefties that F'ed that up as well. But that's no surprise either.
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Pathetic, this is what the leftists are defending...
Mistake? Incompetence? Really? good grief..... look around you.....
Jocko Willnik, if you don't know who he is, find out. He says it all. Fix it NOW.
The narrative is and has been that Trump lost because of the biggest political manipulation of the electoral process in modern history. The narrative regarding "mean tweets' is in regards to the snowflakes who can't handle hearing the truth about what the left has become. People still defending their choice of Biden over Trump sound an awful lot like the liberal media.
They are midwits. They can only borrow other people’s positions or Google to support an argument. Their requirement for you to support a position with a link doesn’t work right now because there are just too many that do. They cannot actually argue a point from a position of knowledge . There is a shortage of people defending this administration right now so they don’t have any material , hence the quietness. It’s a tough time for a midwit.
Are you referring to the fantasy that the imbecile residing in the White House actually "won" the election without the scales being tipped? How preciously naive of you.
What does this even remotely have to do with bow hunting? Hey remember when Trump campaigned that he would remove ALL U.S. troops from afghanistan? He failed, he either lied or was incompetent in his inability to do what he said.(and don't tell me the generals convinced him not to... he already said he was smarter than the generals)
Hey remember when Trump made a deal and negotiated with the Taliban to remove all troops by May 1st 2021? And then started to remove those troops? Biden was able to extend that deadline.
Trump made the deal. Biden finished the deal. 99% of this situation is due to the afghan arm folding so quickly. If trump had pulled out like he said this would have happened to him all the same. The afghan army was going to fold whether we left in spring or summer or 10 more springs from now.
If we pulled out a year from now this would still have happened, except it would be with the Taliban attacking us not helping us leave. Hindsight is 20/20 AFghans should have started evacuating a year ago when the deal was made and they learned we were leaving. But they didn't. Nobody thought the army would fold so fast. So instead of a trickle of people fleeing over months/years it's now in days. We have a deal to leave by the 31st and the taliban won't attack. We also made a deal to rescue those who helped us. As such it's a cluster and third party groups like ISIS(enemies of the taliban) can attack.
I'm getting really sick of people blindly following what "their side" tells them to follow/hear or see only what they want.
We succeeded in killing bin laden.
The fact is we should have left within a year or so on Obamas watch... we didn't
Trump made a deal with the Taliban, hence why we haven't had anyone killed by them in a year.
He failed to get troops out by the date agreed/his campaign promis.
Biden renegotiated and is now completing the deal.
We failed in making a bunch of religious tribes a democracy. And wasted a bunch of times, money, and lives doing so.
Sorry, you don't get to pin the failings of 20 years of war on an administration that's only been in control for 8 months.
The options were simple. Stick to the deal and leave by the 31st. Or start fighting the taliban again... forever. Leave someone elses war, or stay forever.
( I look forward to the "rebuttals" that will solely be personal attacks and fallacies. And nothing factual to refute the facts I put forth)
Name one, Shawn Magyar. On second thought, don't bother. It's not like I care what an anonymous coward, who has been banned from the Bowsite dozens of times, thinks about me.
Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller was relieved for cause after demanding that senior U.S. leaders hold themselves accountable for actions made during the U.S. military's withdrawal from Afghanistan that led to the deaths of 13 service members.
Scheller, a father of three who has been in the USMC Infantry for 17 years, mentioned senior military leaders including Marine Commandant Gen. David H. Berger, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark A. Milley, whom he said are "supposed to advise."
"I'm not saying we need to be in Afghanistan forever, but I am saying, did any of you throw your rank on the table and say, ‘Hey, it’s a bad idea to evacuate Bagram Airfield, a strategic airbase, before we evacuate everyone’? Did anyone do that? And when you didn’t think to do that, did anyone raise their hand and say, ‘We completely messed this up’?"
The federal gov't has just disqualified themselves to enact any further firearm legislation against the private citizen because of this. Nobody today in good conscience can afford to surrender any leaglly owned firearm they currently own.
Joe Biden rarely had a turn out big enough to fill any arena. Arena here being nothing more then an auditorium. As a fact, when his weakness became obvious, staged rallies where chairs were placed over preset dots to direct the two dozen hand picked viewers became his election strategy. It was blamed on Covid. But, unless the basis of statistical science is incorrect, their strategy had nothing to do with Covid.
Statistically, it would be a one in millions chance the rally turnouts didn’t represent the real world results with a sample size so large. Yet people are constantly saying fraud wasn’t a probability. Yet, in laymen’s terms, from the data those rallies presented, Biden winning the election would be as probable as finding a needle in haystack. And, we are still hearing how that wasn’t a statistical anomaly. I haven’t done the math officially but, the statistical chance of Biden winning the election was almost zero.
Are statistical errors possible? Yes. But, in a true random sample , rarely are more then 100 truly random samples needed to predict an acceptably accurate outcome. So, you guys keep on talking about the likelihood of no fraud in the past presidential election. It’s basically statistically impossible for Biden to have received more votes then Trump based on rally participation. Not to mention equally ignorant of the reality we were all seeing playing out in attendees at each candidates rally’s.
Whitey, Good point! I'm beginning to think he is disliked by some because he talks a straight game with confidence. Some people are sensitive to folks that refuse to beat around the bush and sugar coat shit. I personally have no issues with the man...plus he's a fellow Veteran and I understand his language.
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Thursday was “an excruciating day” for California carpenter Steve Nikoui. He knew his son Kareem, a young U.S. Marine, was stationed at the Kabul airport. But when he heard there had been a bombing there, he had no idea if Kareem was alive or dead.
“I stayed home from work yesterday because there was that attack and I knew he was there,” Nikoui told The Daily Beast early Friday morning. “So all day, I was glued to the TV.”
Just hours after the U.S. military warned of an imminent terror threat, a suicide bombing rocked Hamid Karzai International Airport and the surrounding area. At least 13 U.S. service members were killed, and another 18 were wounded. Scores of Afghans also died in the terror attack.
Military officials have not released the names of the slain troops but said they included 10 Marines, two soldiers, and one Navy medic.
Steve Nikoui said he knew the Marines contacted the families of anyone killed in action “within eight hours.” Right about 7:15 p.m. PT, “these young men walked up,” he said.
They first appeared on Nikoui’s phone, which was linked to his doorbell camera, he explained. He had been watching the news for any word of his son or his comrades, and wanted to make sure he intercepted any bad news before his wife and other son got home and saw a clutch of Marines standing there.
“My wife and I felt very honored that [since] these other boys weren’t around their homes, that we were able to provide some sort of family life for them,” he said. “He really loved that [Marine Corps] family. He was devoted—he was going to make a career out of this, and he wanted to go. No hesitation for him to be called to duty.”
Through tears, Nikoui expressed flashes of anger along with his anguish. He said he wants to “respect the office” of the president, but doesn’t have much love for President Joe Biden at the moment. A Trump supporter, Nikoui was happy that Trump was in office when Kareem joined the Marines. “I really believed this guy didn’t want to send people into harm’s way,” he said.
“They sent my son over there as a paper pusher and then had the Taliban outside providing security,” said Nikoui. “I blame my own military leaders… Biden turned his back on him. That’s it.”
The Marines who came to deliver the news of Kareem’s death were “more choked up than me,” Nikoui said. “I was actually trying to console them. But at the same time, I just wanted them to get out as soon as possible so that no one from my family came back and saw them. I thought it appropriate that I be able to tell them.”
“I haven’t gone to bed all night,” Nikoui continued. “I’m still in shock. I haven’t been able to grasp everything that’s going on.” As of right now, Nikoui’s plan is to go to Dover, Delaware, and pick up his son’s remains.
You have shown a tendency to not like Trump. I suppose because you exhibit many of his traits. I’m not making that up either.
Gheez man, you have a very funny recollection of things when it allows you to get on that soap box.
It's not going to get any better when 1/2 the country doesn't give a shit about voting integrity.
Which proves my point - neither party is grooming _good_ people anymore. JEB??? When a real-estate hustler can hijack an entire party, the rot is well advanced.
Decades of case history in elections indicate rally numbers reflect voter turnout. Try and keep up bubba...
So, now we’re stuck with a brain dead career politician. I can’t think of a better opportunity for the opposing side, assuming they can find a better candidate.
Matt Teter from Colorado.
I’ve got news for you. Trump was encouraged to run for president by the people. He was elected by the people of both parties.
Your poihh NY this mute on this as he was the farthest thing from a career politician as this country has elected in at least a hundred years. Get over your TDS. Your argument is baseless on the matter. Everyone, including you knows it too.
Which party is pushing for MORE mail-in ballots and which party for more in-person with a photo ID??
Seems pretty clear to me which party is more interested in cheating, whose voters would use that opportunity to cheat, while they vote to allow illegal immigrants who cheated the system to become voters.
However, I would welcome a public disclosure of any dead voters found, to see who they actually voted for... any bets??
The media and a BS, fabricated narrative elected Biden, what's pathetic is so many Americans were too GD lazy and apathetic to look beyond the shiny objects being dangled before their noses.
Frankly I'm glad to see the bonus unemployment payments and the eviction moratoriums going away- certainly not in all cases, but the majority of those people had over a year and a half free ride to get a plan together and failed, time for them to grow the hell up and get back to work.
Kudos to the Supreme Court on that even though it will likely drive the leftists into packing the SC in their next temper tantrum that inevitably follows them not getting their way, no better than a group of preschoolers.
LOL, you're not going to get any serious takers on that. I can think of two guys on here that will demand to "see your source on that", but neither one of them will put his money where his mouth is. On the flip side, they are both progressive democrats so they would be more than happy to put someone else's money in on that wager.
"2. What Were ‘Dead Voting’ Patterns in Past Elections?
The total number of votes cast in the names of dead voters in the 2020 election likely won’t be known for some time.
In 2016, the last presidential election year, 7,890 registered voters who were dead were credited with voting across 41 states.
The number declined in 2018 to 6,178, according to a report earlier this year from the Public Interest Legal Foundation, an election integrity watchdog.
The group actually got data from 42 states, but one-—Vermont—had recorded none of its 104 dead registrants as having voted. Three states—Illinois, Maine, and Maryland—withheld the data. In the remaining five states, the report says, “insurmountable gaps in the poor quality of the state’s data impaired the research.”
“Nine states either offer limited data or none at all to the public,” foundation spokesman Logan Churchwell told The Daily Signal.
Churchwell said similar numbers for the 2020 election are difficult to determine at this point.
The report by the Public Interest Legal Foundation found 349,773 apparently dead people listed on voter registration rolls in the 41 states covered by its study during the 2016 and 2018 election cycles.
New York, Texas, Michigan, Florida, and California accounted for 51% of the total names, according to the foundation.
Michigan is one of the states where the results are being litigated in the aftermath of the 2020 election. The names of 34,225 dead people are on the voter registration rolls. Of those, 104 were recorded as voting in 2016, and 97 in 2018.
Rounding out the top 10 with at least 11,000 dead registered voters each are Pennsylvania, South Carolina, North Carolina, Connecticut, Virginia, New Jersey, and Tennessee.
Pennsylvania, among the most contested states in the aftermath of the 2020 election, lists 16,685 registered voters who are dead, according to the foundation’s report. However, that number is now known to be more than 21,000, based on an amended lawsuit filed by the Public Interest Legal Foundation.
In 2018, the report shows 127 dead people on the voter rolls were recorded as voting in Pennsylvania. That’s 50 fewer than the 177 dead Pennsylvanians credited with voting in the 2016 election.
On a per capita basis, North Carolina leads the U.S. in dead registrants recorded as voting in 2016 and 2018, according to the foundation’s report. This year, Trump carried North Carolina, which was considered a battleground.
As for other states where the outcomes are being litigated after Election Day, Wisconsin ranks 16th with 6,805 dead registered voters in previous elections, according to the report. Of those, 163 were credited with voting in the 2018 midterms and 186 in the 2016 presidential election.
Georgia placed 20th in the report, with 4,243 dead registered voters in the previous elections. Of those, 12 were recorded as voting in 2018 and 17 in 2016.
The contested state of Nevada ranks at No. 22 with 3,258 dead registered voters in the previous two federal elections. Of those, four voted in 2018 and seven in 2016.
Arizona ranks 25th with 2,289 dead people on the voter rolls. Of those, 28 were credited with voting in 2018 and 23 in 2016.
The numbers are likely higher for 2020, von Sponvakovsky said.
“I would think it’s at the very least the same proportionally, and realistically, it’s higher because there was such a higher number of mail-in and absentee ballots used this year,” von Spakovsky told The Daily Signal. “It’s so much easier for a member of the family to cast a vote for a deceased relative.”
In a separate 2012 study, the Pew Center on the States found that about 24 million voter registrations were no longer valid or contained significant inaccuracies, while 1.8 million dead individuals were listed on voter rolls nationally.
A 2010 study by Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project asserts that, in a typical state, “1 in 40 counted votes in the 2008 general election cannot be matched to a registrant listed as having voted” and that “1 in 100 listed registrants is likely to be deceased.”
The 2010 study also concludes that “1 in 25 registration records is estimated to be deadwood, because of registrants who have not voted in a very long time, have moved elsewhere and re-registered, or are thought to be deceased.”
These votes can make a difference in an election, although it’s not likely, von Spakovsky said.
“It’s probably only if it’s a marginal victory,” von Spakovsky said. “Could it make a difference if the margin of victory is 10,000? Maybe. Could it make a difference if the margin of victory is 140,000? Probably not.” "
Death certificates at the very least should be sent to to the sec of state offices so these mail in travesties are at least somewhat mitigated.
Agreed, but that would require 50 states to each pass laws to that effect, plus regulations to ensure that the voter registration rolls were updated in a timely manner. (And then the state offices would piss and moan about how they're under budgeted and under staffed.)
We was talking about all the dead people voting in Chicago That was in the early 60s and a prominent Democrat was discussing it openly.
So are we that naive that we think it not only didn't go away, but got more sophisticated
Voting in person with an ID gets in the way of that.
That’s why they get so upset about Georgia and Texas clamping down on the fraud
Shawn Magyar (village idiot) predicts some revelation from cyber ninjas (LMAO) and My Pillow Guy. Wanna bet?
As the the law license it’s all political and won’t stand on appeal.
Not even sure why you’re commenting. You truly hate America. And not much of a Hunter either.
They still haven’t prosecuted the killer of Jimmy Hoffa. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t killed. It just means the killers were good at it.
If dead people were voting in the 60s I’m betting they have gotten better at it since the 60s.
Shawn Magyar, thank you for your service! You make some pretty bow as well.
If it's such a slam dunk, open-and-shut case, why does it upset you so badly that we don't buy it?!
You're scared to death that voter ID may one day be required, yet you stand behind mandatory vaccination passports being required to eat at McDonald's?
Perhaps YOU should STFU? And while you're at it...GFY! Lol! You're too easy to rattle these days!
if you think Fulton Co Georgia (Atlanta) was legit you are retarded.Its on video.
Then to this on Dana's behalf "Agreed, but that would require 50 states to each pass laws to that effect, plus regulations to ensure that the voter registration rolls were updated in a timely manner." - do tell, and which party is it again that is against doing just that ?
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It's hypocrisy from top to bottom. The religious extremists from Afghan are no different than what we have brewing at home. Only difference is they follow a different version of the same story and eat pork.
Religion had a somewhat useful role some 500+ years ago. I mean much of it was simple laws and health codes(see Leviticus 13:45-46) and was a way to explain the unexplainable. But in modern society? Plain and simple religion is a detriment and will be the downfall of modern man/society. There will come a day where religious beliefs will be as common as flat earth believers, almost non-existent. Until then we have to deal with fallout of such beliefs.
My "Pro Tip" questions to him:
Can you explain why Biden is having to "rescue" those tens of thousands you speak of? (BTW....there are numerous civilian groups and NGO's who are doing a lot of rescuing)
Dems and Leftist alike, it’s ok. Set back, breathe, relax, a calmly say that I F#*K-D up with my vote for President of the United States of America!
This would not be so bad but your VP Camela has proven her own ineptitude!
Correct Dana!...commies! What do you call it when social media censors certain opinions?
Oh that's right...you guys are experts when it comes to "misinformation". You know when it's appropriate to stifle the opposition for the greater good. You know?...the way they do it on Facebook, Twitter, etc?!
A commander in chief has to put America first. Dealing with the Taliban was our best choice to put America first, not rely on a bunch of bums who folded over before a threat was even established. The took our money for 20 years and ran.
This was a terrible miscalculation by Biden and his advisors, and all should be removed from office. And no I didn't vote for Trump, I voted for Jo Jorgensen (libertarian)
"Trumps lawyers are about to lose their law license over the big lie but you all still push this crap."
Don Lemon tell you that? Must be awesome to feel vindicated with your vote for biden...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-led_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war Wikipedia- "Shortly after the civil war broke out in 2011, the U.S. initially supplied the rebels of the Free Syrian Army with non-lethal aid (e.g. food rations and pickup trucks), but quickly began providing training, money, and intelligence to selected Syrian rebel commanders. At least two U.S. programs attempted to assist the Syrian rebels, including a 2014 Pentagon program that planned to train and equip 15,000 rebels to fight ISIL, which was canceled in 2015 after spending $500 million and producing only a few dozen fighters. A simultaneous $1 billion covert program called Timber Sycamore conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) aimed at fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was more successful, but was decimated by Russian bombing, and canceled in mid-2017 by the Trump administration."
"Biden paused all oil and gas leasing on federal lands. He then killed the Keystone XL pipeline and the many thousands of jobs it supported, claiming the pipeline did not serve the U.S. national interest. Only a few months later, he supported removing sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, handing a major energy and international policy win to Russian President Vladimir Putin and oil giant Gazprom." -- Smells like Russian Collusion.
- ""While the president's anti-energy policies stifled domestic production and raised prices on consumers, Biden again snubbed American energy producers by going on bended knee to OPEC and pleading for the oil cartel to boost production. It's possible that he is reliving the past, doesn't remember the fracking revolution has already happened and honestly believes America is still beholden to Middle Eastern oil. Regardless of what year the president thinks it might be, OPEC rebuffed his request.""
- Great article, showcasing Biden as an incompetent tool......
Biden team miscalculated and blew it....big time.
As usual, the alphabet soup propaganda media sites, leftist politicians, and the Biden apologists are all pointing to the "fact" that it's Trump's fault, as Trump had made arrangements with the Taliban for a withdrawal date, and Biden was naturally beholden to uphold the previous administrations policy, the sarcasm here is my input.
The current O'biden exit strategy is to blunder forward blindly, ignoring the intelligence community and the military experts who actually understand what's happening on the ground, instead relying on the expertise of his CRT and PC compliant lackeys he quickly advanced to key positions to placate the far left of his base.
The Democrats and the propaganda media would have you believe that out of all the Trump policies Joe inherited, Afghanistan was the one he kept intact. The only people dumb enough to believe that are the people defending him. Don't expect anything more than whining and blaming others for his mistakes moving forward, it's what progressive democrats do, and it's ingrained in their DNA.
A compass doesn't determine your destination, it only points the direction from where you are, to elsewhere.
AND, you have to be smaller than a hypocrite to hide behind one.
Great question Lamb...Let's ask this of all bowsite lefties. How about it KS, BEG, etc. Are we better or worse off? Conservatives aren't allowed to voice their opinions, our military has a knife in their back, and COVID is the silent false rage of the century. This is what y'all voted for right? So...are you satisfied?
I findd that most independents are not that independent in their voting. Actually, let’s say that I was an independent. How would I have voted since I was old enough to vote. That would be from 1976.
Oh no, not jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan George Bush (had a friend in 1989 tell me about Clinton that if it walked like a duck and talked like a duck then it was probably a duck) hmm, perfect political analysis.
Absolutely no to Clinton’s second run.
Gore vs Bush really didn’t think Gore was anything but a talking point!
No to Obama both times, couldn’t figure out how a self proclaimed average student went to Harvard or Columbia! Second time no way after the slam and cram ACA.
Trump vs Hillary was easy to with a non Washington insider and what was exactly Hillary’s experience? You got it, little too none!
Biden vs Trump, 47 years in Washington D.C. and no significant accomplishments.
I really didn’t start paying attention to politics until the infamous “chad count”.
Frankly, I don’t think that the Democrats have had a truly solid candidate since Kennedy!
Solid doesn’t mean that they can get elected but someone worthy of my vote.
So exactly how did we get so many people who are so proud of being Independents. I got it if you are playing options but other than that to me it’s mostly fluff.
I’ll woke up tomorrow and get to work. Did anyone else Woke up today and do any hunting related stuff?
13 US soldiers not gonna wake up anymore because of the guy you voted for, but I hope you had a great day.
Looking more and more likely that Repubs will retake both houses in 2022, even according to lefty pundits. Might be time for some impeachment payback. As we learned, Congress can impeach for pretty much anything.
Since there weren’t any deaths of police officers on January 6th no one is “owning “ anything. Unless you’re referring to your ANTIFA buddies or BLM friends.
What a fool.
Yet some of you minimize the deaths and injuries to police officers on January 6th. You minimize the injured police officers doing their job. Trump, Don Jr., and any of the other idiots that spoke the rally own all of it. But you all will continue to justify it.
You want all Biden voters to own any stupid crap Biden does but you own none of the stupidity of Trump. That’s about par.
Are you not able to grasp that?
They did that anyhow, - 24/7/365 before he was even sworn in and now the lame stream propagandists are throwing a temper tantrum because people are starting to criticize their sock puppet sitting in the Oval Office.
I hope Biden serves his whole 4 year term with people shoving his failing agenda up his exhaust port, he didn't hesitate clinging to Pelosi's skirt while she regurgitated the toxic lies and false allegations against Trump, I have no sympathy for Biden. His past is catching up to him, and he deserves all the hell karma can rain back down on him. If it takes down the toxic Democrat Party, all the better.
Obviously not. The TDS is strong with that one.
You all had a 45 year track record of failed political endeavors to guide you, his own previous boss, prez zero warned you all, his hiding in a basement the entire campaign should have raised a red flag, yeah - you Biden supporters definitely own Biden's stupid stuff. His 45 year track record was on display, didn't even need vetting because it was there for all to see, and you all voted for him despite all that...., That’s about par.
Sad. But WW Is Right. TDS At its worst
Jan 6th was a grade school cafeteria food fight compared to the months of ANTIFA and BLM riots and violence.
For example “ More than 2,000 law enforcement officers were injured in the first weeks of protests over the summer following the in-custody death of George Floyd, according to a report from the Major Cities Chiefs Association.
The Association detailed the unrest and compiled data from protests between May 25 and July 31 in MCCA member cities.
During that period, there were 8,700 protests nationwide; 574 were declared riots with violence and other criminal acts. “
2000 police officers injured by Leftwing nutjobs that have the same Political viewpoints and opinions as you. And that was just in the 1st few weeks and you portray Jan 6th as much worse.
As to cops being killed
“ The sniper who killed five Dallas police officers Thursday night as they guarded protesters at an anti-police brutality march was angry about recent shootings by police and “wanted to kill white people,” according to authorities. He was also an ardent BLM supporter”
The gunman was identified as Micah Xavier Johnson, 25, who was blown up by a police robot while holed up on the second level of a parking garage early Friday morning after negotiations with police broke down.”
No one is buying your BS anymore. The facts are indisputable.
Leftwing activist in 2020 killed and injured more people and police officers than any Pro Trump activists.
“In just 10 days, after George Floyd’s self induced death, your team caused nearly $2 Billion dollars in property damage across the Country. 10 days. Pro Trump activists didn’t do that in 7 years.
What mainstream media outlets have dubbed as "mostly peaceful protests" caused up to $2 billion in property damage in the first two weeks of protests alone, Axios reported Wednesday.
The report found that the damage caused by demonstrations from May 28 to June 8 cost insurance agencies anywhere from $1 to $2 billion—more than any other event of civil unrest in United States history. The total cost of damage throughout the summer "far outstrip[s]" the millions in damages caused by the Los Angeles riots in 1992
Jan 6th is an anomaly. And it’s been greatly exaggerated by your Team for political effect, but the facts prove your team is the real threat to peace, freedom, and Democracy.
Here’s a small list of cops killed or injured by your team. As of June 6th 2020.
Many people were injured, including 138 police officers. Four officers who responded to the riot committed suicide within seven months.
If those injuries and suicides mean nothing to you, okay, keep selecting just the narrow data points that support your own bullsnot narrative.
Trump has not been cleared of that yet; the impeachment may have failed on a purely partisan vote but civil suits will cost him a billion.
And shall we speak of the 600 + people charged with crimes that day? Isolated incident my ass.
Better yet, when was the last time that killed something with a bow?
How long have you lived in Connecticut?
Hopefully, long before the left turned it into a liberal cesspool?
But then, if you are so damn smart why can’t you figure that out?
Just checking to make sure that you are not some internet troll!
That a novel idea. Taking personal responsibility and not playing the victim.
Just look back and say that I created that S#!T!
The problem with scraping the bottom of the barrel is that all you get is slime and sludge. Keep scraping...
Ok. But what does that mean? Will he be held accountable for his decision? See, He can say "I take full responsibility for what happened" but if there is no consequences for his colossal cluster phuc, it's just words. Empty. Words. And please, leave Trump out of it. A true leader doesn't deflect or blame others. He takes responsibility for his actions, owns it and faces the consequences. The man is no fit for office. The picture of his head hanging in shame proves it.
Just can't understand why supposedly educated, some highly, would vote for this man. It was clear he was unfit. Anyone with two firing brain cells knew he had ZERO foreign experience, unless you count bullying the Ukraine and then bribing them. Cuts our oil production and then asks OPEC and the Russians to open the faucet because of rising energy costs. Depends on the Taliban to provide safe passage. As Kathy asked a Bowsiter once, HYLYFM?
138 to the THOUSANDS injured by your team.
“Four officers who responded to the riot committed suicide within seven months.”
Looking for the suicide notes left behind blaming Trump. Maybe they felt bad about the way they treated their fellow Americans.
In any event your pathetic attempt to blame unfortunate suicides to Trump is ridiculous.
If you want to put me on a team then I’ll go with the constitution team.
Village idiot…I’m woked up now.
As for 'my team' I stand four-square with the Capitol police, not the rioting extremists who assaulted our national legislature.
We've been pushing to open up hunting-on-Sunday for as long as I can remember, and it's still DOA in the legislature every year. I won't live long enough to see it.
Used to love my weekends in Vermont, drive up Friday after work, get home Sunday night at 11, and crawl into work at 6 the next morning. Knees would handle them little green mountains in those days ;-)
Who Da Fuq is in charge???
350,000 members of the Afgan Army, walked off of their posts / duty to their country in the advance of 70,000 of the Taliban. Their President fled the country !
They won't defend their own country !!!
This stupid war should have ended over over 16 years ago !
To blame this ridiculous war on anyone person or president is wrong. There is a lot of complicity here.
Remember President Dwight D. Eisenhower's, departing speech and warning,
Beware of the "Industrial Military Complex"
After spending nearly $2 Trillion dollars on this war, maybe just maybe a more rounded view of the current problem there is warranted.
This isn't a Republican or Democrat problem it is an American problem with how we have invested ourselves in senseless wars.
The way it was done..... sorry, it would be too easy to call it incompetence or "political". Again..... NOBODY is that incompetent. This is the most powerful military in the history of the planet. YOU make the terms, YOU make the demands and YOU tell them how it's going to go. And you MAKE that happen or else. You beef up where and if needed, you make your evacuations under security and retrieve your arms and equipment as necessary and destroy the rest, leaving nothing to the terrorists. You control whatever airports you need and the LAST thing that leaves are the guys that eliminate threats hundreds at a time. A military private, hell a 16 year old could have developed a better plan than the total FUBAR that happened.
We actually outsourced security at the airport in this last bombing. Gave them a hit list of who to go after. SMH...
This is no mistake, no accident. Planned and paid for. We have elected a President on someone else's payroll. And it was all KNOWN well before the election. Payments from China (they shared offices together even) Moscow, Ukraine, Soros, etc all documented.... but excused and hidden by a corporate globalist companies, globalist media for the Globalist cause. Enemy states, semi-enemy states and Soros communists/globalists. If you can't see what the left is about you really aren't paying a lick of attention, just following the shinny virtue signaling toys they dangle..... BLM is literally a Marxist entity, it WAS stated so on their website. ANTIFA, that's clear as day who they are as well as who supports them.
America FIRST is what they fear, it's why Trump was hated and feared. He was literally right when he said "it's not me they are after..... I'm just standing in the way...."
It's why ALL of this is happening, from the southern border, to actively disrupting domestic oil/energy, to covid response, to support of special interest activism to pit us against each other, Demonizing the right as "the greatest threat to our country since the Civil War and 9/11". Defund the police. The list is seemingly endless, perpetual outrage and victimhood. If they can't find any they literally manufacture it..... even a new word.... to Smollett....
All want to see a compliant obedient US brought to heel.
I WISH it was just stupidity and incompetence.
It’s not a question of why he withdrew. It’s why he withdrew the way he did. That has only one blame. Period. And there were ulterior motives that caused. Because NO one is as dumb or inept as his actions suggested.
Apparently, a buddy of his was on Fox expressing some of the displeasure that many of these guys are feeling.
I am not a military guy, but if this story is true, I am astounded. How could anyone make a decision like that? There are some higher ranking individuals who should be held accountable for this level of ineptitude.
I spent a good part of Sunday at a slug shoot banging guns and making noise with some good folks who are doing their best to keep the shooting sports alive here. Even got a great laugh of a story out of it. Beats hell out of p&m'ing about 'the liberals.'
He sure as hell ain’t my president. I swear this stumbling, bumbling, mumbling boob grampa can’t even string 3 words together without stopping or stuttering. My god how on god’s green earth could anyone possibly vote for this 100% certified dolt? Regardless of party affiliation. Mind boggling.
Marines Stand Up for Lt. Col. Scheller's Call for 'Accountability'
By Eric Mack | Sunday, 29 August 2021 12:42 PM
The Marine relieved of his command for using a Facebook video to call for accountability from leadership after the deaths of 13 U.S. service members in the suicide bombing is not backing down.
Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller, a 17-year veteran just three years from full pension, is also garnering some support from fellow Marines for his "real courage" for speaking out, the New York Post reported.
"The baby boomer's turn is over," Scheller, 41, told the Post, saying "every generation needs a revolution." "I demand accountability, at all levels. If we don't get it, I'm bringing it."
Marines who served under Scheller stood behind him.
"It takes real courage to do what he did and that was Stu all the way," Juan Chavez, 33, who served under Scheller 2011-2014, told the Post. "He was a magnificent leader, a breath of fresh air, who was always going to do what's right, even if it goes against the grain."
Scheller's father, Stuart Sr., called his son "the real deal, a Marine's Marine."
"People will follow him to the ends of the earth," Stuart Scheller Sr. told the Post. "He has put his life on the line for fellow Marines, so putting his career on the line like this does not surprise us."
Scheller Jr. was praised for his four-minute, 45-second Facebook video calling for accountability from leadership for the 13 dead U.S. service members and at least 169 Afghans civilians, but he was also warned to take it down from people standing behind him.
"Obviously, I didn't take it down," Scheller wrote in a later Facebook post. "I'll offer this . . . we can't ALL be wrong. If you all agree . . . then step up. They only have the power because we allow it. What if we all demanded accountability?"
Scheller called out Marine Corps Commandant Gen. David H. Berger, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, and White House Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley.
"People are upset because their senior leaders let them down, and none of them are raising their hands and accepting accountability or saying, 'We messed this up,'" he said.
His father noted his son idolized his World War II veteran grandfather who landed on the beach at Normandy.
"He's still on the battlefield protecting his men and women," Scheller Sr. told the Post. "It's interesting that no one has answered his call for accountability. Their answer was to fire him I guess. It's a sad day for America."
Scheller Jr., who received Combat V for Valor and a Bronze Star, is a married father of three boys who lives in Jacksonville, N.C.
The Facebook video has had more than 30,000 likes and comments.
"Proud to have served under your command sir, we'll follow you to the pits of hell and back," Zach Olbrys of Worcester, Mass., wrote.
Another predicted a future run for political office.
"I see a seat in Washington in your near future!!" Ryan Holland of Lexington, Kentucky, wrote. "It was always an honor serving with you sir! Semper Fi!"
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This is despicable in its own right and is not something to laugh at!
Ignorance is bliss...
Now Biden does something 10000 times worse and not a peep about Biden needing to be impeached. Not a single word.
Oh they said “he owns it” and we “kinda blame him”. But they have not said he should be impeached.
Again Biden’s action precipitated the death of over a dozen Americans with more to follow. Biden’s actions have left hundreds of Americans stranded surrounded by the enemy. Biden’s actions will result in the enslavement and sexual abuse of untold numbers of young girls and women.
Biden’s actions have given the enemy Billions of dollars of sophisticated weapons that will eventually be used against American citizens.
But not a single call for him to go by the resident Lefties. Not a single Lefty has said “yeah I supported Trump’s impeachment and Biden needs to go too.”
It’s ironic isn’t it?
I have not seen you speak out against the $3.5 trillion dollar infrastructure so why are we so concerned about the cost of twenty years of safety for 330 million Americans!
I need me some rose colored glasses.
I am sure that if that was the case that there would have already been a Presidential statement out by now.
Do I even need to *say* that there will be pork by the barrel in that bill? But it's off topic.
I'm not convinced that occupying a hostile 3rd world shithole like AFG kept Americans safe. We could have *leveled* 'Tora Bora' and said, 'we can come back and do this to any place you use to give sanctuary our attackers, and we will.' Then come home. Instead we played at building a country and an army that wasn't worth a hill of piss. Why? (Hint - military spending makes _a few_ people mighty rich.)
DanaC, you couldn’t figure out that Biden was incompetent nevertheless which military strategy is best! The left is always worried about people getting rich but they are outpacing the conservatives.
Liberals are the party of the rich and elite.
As for 'military strategy' the decision to stay in AFG was made way before Biden was President. (Although he probably supported it.)
This predicament and, your basis for even commenting since it’s happened, has been about the US military being there in the first place. However, You refuse to talk about the real issue. Which was/is the way the withdrawal was implemented and carried out.
You can keep on steering the discussion away from that but, nobody cares. Let’s discuss what the moron in office did. How he did it. And, the cost executing the withdrawal the way he did. Lets not put put blinders on and blame everyone else like you keep insisting on doing.
Like it or not, believe it or not, Biden won the election, and got us out of AFG. Could it have been done 'better'? Probably , but NO candidate showed us EXACTLY how he or she would do just that. So comparing Biden's performance to some mythical ideal is just smoke-blowing.
(And yes, losing those soldiers sucks. Same as it has sucked since the Shrub days. I'm just thankful we're out of there.)
It's tough to find Generals, that fully support the milky-licking semi-Socialistic agenda, that the Biden Administration is pushing...Sleepy Joe magically managed to find some.
This is the outcome of their approach to the situation. So...would it have been different with Trump? I'm going with "Yes"!
So you agree with the way it was done? I have no doubt that even YOU would have done a better job.
This would be a good segway for you to tell us the other things that China joe has done to improve things. You won't admit voting for him, but you sure do tout his ill-executed actions.
YES!!!!!! My God you cant possibly be serious with that question!
Deep State Dept philosophers and Masters Degrees says the Taliban are really good hearted people that mean well.... just have to talk nice and give em a chance to be part of the global community.... be their friend..... trust them... it'll be fine, no worries. Everybody in the end just wants to be liked.... Guessing Trump voters still on the terrorist lists along with folks that don't like masks but not a clue how many real terrorists from the open southern borders much less from the latest cluster air lifts. No matter, they are all the same as the folks that just blew up our soldiers. That is verbatim.
All of which is right down the same pipes with "defund the police", etc. Same flippin' people. With the same Great Ideas. With the same Globalist Plan.
Incompetent? No, not hardly. Insane? Perhaps. Evil megalomaniacs? Quite likely.
This is just in the first 8 or 9 months.... "it doesn't matter who is elected or which party is in charge" Good grief, some folks you can't even slap the stupid out of when stupid is in style and you must flash the signalling of your virtues.....
2022 elections cannot get here soon enough....
Blue to the core
Not sure what it would have looked like, but can't imagine it could have been worse...
And he's talking as though his evacuation was the largest and most successful ever!!! But the rest of the mess is Trumps fault!
Maybe that's the part that Dana is proud of...after all, every turd is eligible for a polish job, regardless of its lack of ability to shine naturally.
We will never know how it would have finished out because Prez Biden chose to go his own route when he came into office. We know how Prez Biden's plan is working/worked.....he owns it!
It would be great if a few of the past Prez's would drop the politics, dig into their pockets and spend some of that book money they got and get our remaining folks and friends out.
(And you gotta come back east next year just to shoot a *real* 3-D course, bro'.)
This shows the ignorance some of the right have. Believe it or not there are many democrats that are hunters. Don't paint everyone with the same brush used to paint the fringe.
Another reason is that there are many conservatives that could never support the previous President because of who he is, not because they oppose conservative agenda items.
Bingo. Also independents and libertarians.
The US allied itself with Russia to get rid of the Nazis during WWII. Doesn't make the US a 'commie' country, does it?
^.....this. I was a Cruz guy....still am actually. However at the end of the day our choices were Hillary or Trump. My golden goose was the SCOTUS picks. I, like millions of others, did not want Hillary anywhere close to the White House. The country was lucky. So with that in mind.....some political satire and humor. This is still Hil-arious today.
a lot of dems hunt, as evidenced here and all other hunting websites
I'd say their numbers are in the thousands, maybe many thousands
just too bad that the other hundred million plus are staunchly on the other side, so much so that they would gladly end your ability to exercise your right to pursue happiness in the field
"who he is".....besides the scapegoat for the current disgrace, he did an outstanding job of following through on campaign promises
Wrong again Phil - those are called Rhinos not Conservatives. Trump received more votes than any Republican in history....his were legit.
perhaps it is....just like the door to door executions taking place as we rearrange the deck chairs
i guess we will wait & see then, this is just the beginning
I'll certainly run everything through politifuct & snopes before posting stuff from now on, after all, only they can discern and approve truth
This thread should get to 2,000….there’s plenty of ammo to shoot.
You were a vocal supporter of both Trump impeachment’s that were nothing but Partisan politics. Do you support Biden being impeached after this fiasco in Afghanistan?
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye. Luke 6:41&42
What have YOU DONE in the last year to improve or save your country?
If they want to go through the impeachment process on Biden over this then I’m for it. Lay out exactly how this happened. Who said and did what. Why did it happen this way. Hold him accountable and make him and his cabinet answer the questions publicly. Too much misinformation and knee jerk reaction out there. Just like itshots post. I want to know and then I’ll decide if I’m for impeachment but I’m all for Congress using their oversight powers. That’s our constitutional process and I’m 100% in on the constitution. It has to be our guiding light through this complete s#%tshow that has become our partisan political government.
“What have YOU DONE in the last year to improve or save your country?“
I met a guy today for the first time and he had a Trump hat on. Man, I really do not like Trump. I welcomed him into my home and talked with him for two hours and did him a personal favor. Super nice guy who obviously loved his family. Maybe that will help show that we are people first and Americans second so we all have something in common.
I don't trust Congressional leaders to always get things right. Those swamp creatures have been around too long. That's why I'm a proponent of Congressional term limits....but I digress.
Well I agree with you 100% with you on that.
WRT Trump's Jan 6th deal.....he told those people to march peacefully....some didn't listen. The FBI investigation recently concluded there was no insurrection. That word gets tossed around a lot in the media and by politicians to stir emotions.
I think a few things hurt the Dems in that whole process. Rep Adam Schift who was leading the impeachment "trial", among other things, got caught lying. Pelosi's rush to do a second impeachment after the election was over then became more of a question of why? Well.....she is afraid Trump will run again and she was using the impeachments as a vehicle to prevent Trump from running in 2024. I believe the NY AG investigating Trump's businesses is attempting the same thing. We'll see how that plays out.
That is what blows my mind
It should be obvious to everyone on this thread that voting is simply not enough.
It's not realistic to think that people have one principle and are single issue voters. Many of us former republicans didn't vote against our principles because of what we saw in Trump. We voted in line with the majority of our principles and understand the consequences.
Rather, the question is, what do we have in common today with the founding fathers who created the government? Many understand that we have been blessed by what they created, but fail to understand the differences between their creation and the monster we have today, and who is to blame for the departure from the origins.
It is a mistake to believe that. You've been misinformed.
I absolutely support the Constitution. And it's clear that most administrations, particularly the previous one, will try everything possible to work around it in many cases. And they should be held accountable.
That is a great point and should be the first question out of our mouths when folks begin to craft legislation and vote.
And I wonder how this administration is going to handle and treat them if they get caught and survive.
But you vote Democrat??? Obviously the 2A is NOT part of the Constitution you support.
What's funny is neither of the parties actually have the right to strip any rights away. We're stupid enough to think they do...
Do some legislation knowing it goes beyond the Constitution and then let the SCOTUS reduce the legislation back to the top of the ceiling of what the Constitution allows.
I do support the Second Amendment. Despite all the fearmongering, my Second Amendment rights haven't been infringed. I still own lots of guns and have a License to Carry that is recognized in numerous states.
“Despite all the fearmongering, my Second Amendment rights haven't been infringed.”
The only reason is because the people on the Right are fighting for the 2nd amendment. Here’s the facts.
“ A lone Democratic House candidate and no Democratic Senate candidates received A grades from the NRA this year, while 92 percent flunked. It’s a dramatic departure from 2010, when more than a quarter of Democrats received A’s. Meanwhile, the share of Republicans with A’s this year is virtually unchanged from past elections, at 94 percent. And the share receiving F’s has fallen to nearly 1 percent, after a slight uptick in 2018. Once a coveted designation that could make or break a campaign, the NRA’s grading system is now mostly a reflection of the country’s ideological divide.”
So the point is you still have gun rights because the Right has stopped the Left. Not because the Left supports the 2nd Amendment. Your argument is disingenuous.
On that we agree. I'd also point out that at least one founder spoke in favor of ' a government of Laws and not of men.' And yet we spend a lot of time arguing about the foibles of various men and women in government, on both sides, who we have failed to properly constrain. I think we agree that term limits would help prevent any one person garnering too much power.
" when folks begin to craft legislation"
So how and when is that ever going to happen? Who are the "folks"?
"Phil, I agree..if they violate the constitution..thats not good at all. We even have amendments that violate the constitution..supported by both parties. I dont see how I could support the constitution and support abortion, gun control , immoral taxe systems, mandated mask, mandated vaccines, redistribution of wealth, Patriot Act, ..not to mention regulations that restrict the economy "
Can you show me where the Constitution says anything about abortion? And the Constitution says this about taxes "Article I, Section 8, Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States". I understand immoral may be open to interpretation but the Constitution doesn't differentiate.
The Constitution gives states the power to protect public health -that's where the mask mandates have come from. The same with regulations that restrict the economy. The Constitution gives those powers to the states.
Nope, it was you. Because you said that all conservatives would support government run health care because it keeps the cost down(not really), and that because Reagan was in power at an earlier time, he didn't see that advantage. You were re-defining what conservatives stand for. Fact is, Reagan clearly understood what government health care amounted to, as people control, and openly opposed it in his day.
Leftists are always busy burning books or altering their original meaning, basically lying.
Also, I'm not redefining conservatism. That's taken place over the past several years to the point that Reagan today would not be considered a conservative because he hels some moderate views.
As far as what Reagan would or would not support, you are wrong but I can understand why you think the way you do because of how information is presented today. He had multiple views but, ultimately he did not openly oppose it.
Where people get the idea Reagan opposed the government being in healthcare comes from his words before running for President. Before he was President he opposed compulsory healthcare and opposed Medicare for that reason. But he favored government subsidies for healthcare, at least when he wasn't criticizing it as "...curtailing Americas' freedom".
But, after becoming President, he changed his views, became more pragmatic, and passed the largest Medicare expansion in decades and was willing to raise taxes to do it. Those taxes were later removed by George H. W. Bush.
Of course I'm aware of the leftist agenda. That doesn't mean I support it. And I never voted for a Marxist. It's short-sighted to label anyone that voted for a democrat as marxist.
It doesn't have to, nor should it. It was and is meant to be understood. The Constitution is a document to outline the forming of laws and defining limits of government. People in 1790 were a hell of lot more in touch with reality than we are today....
As far as drawing lines, the Constitution didn’t define life at birth. While I can’t ask them, it was obvious the a large majority of the founding fathers were largely followers of God. Who did define life. Who did define morality. So, it’s cool to patsy around acting as if assumptions only apply to what you find relevant. But, it just ain’t so.
Suddenly Sarah Palins death panels arent so ridiculous. Ask a German about health care.
If you didn't have a Declaration of Independence, you wouldn't have had a Constitution. The two are intertwined with principles of governance and are complimentary documents to be understood together. Both were forged in Independence Hall and there were six people there who signed both. Ben Franklin being one of those men was also an editor of both documents.
Justin and HDE, Phil has tried to sidetrack Constitution argument by saying murder was not mentioned in the Constitution. But it is, as a police matter to be managed by the states, not a federal government which was created to bond the states. Policing is better handled at a state level, unless of course you want the Federal Police Force that Obama wanted. Hmmmmm, could that be why defunding local police is so popular with the Democrats, a back door to federal police who are absolutely as just and right as the federal government is today?
A couple of years ago the left tried to define the freedom of speech as meaning only approved press outlets and not an individual right.
I think what chaffs them most is that the founders understood and outlined the American people as sovereign with rights from the laws of nature and nature's God. Therefore, government has always tried to stand in God's place and define right from wrong for you, instead of being limited to protect your rights from God as pointedly written in the Constitution. Remember this, anytime they want to trample your rights, it is for your own good(not).
"It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." - Patrick Henry
It’s the foundation of what those assumptions are based on, that largely defines if it’s accurate or not. And, there is more then enough evidence to suggest that’s likely right concerning the founders.
FWIW, I never remembered Reagan suggesting government healthcare was a cheaper option. The first time I heard that was your claims.
The arrogance of man is amazing.
Your other comments about who decides who decides about transplants or death panels are also so wrong and was and is fearmongering. That stuff all goes on today. And it happens in a controlled way. And the death panel stuff was just a ridiculous attempt to scare people. Medicare providers are tasked with providing end-of-life guidance. There was a plan to have that a more prominent task for providers and the senate removed that from the bill. It never was death panels, it was Palin's writers trying to scare scare people.
This is where the SCOTUS in Roe v. Wade were grossly in error and negligent in their interpretation of the Constitution. The authors that penned our Constitution did not feel the need to define when life began because only Godless men need that defined for them...
Kill all the babies! Take all our guns/ammo! Promote sexual deviancy! Tax the rich (all producers)! Increase entitlements! Open the border! Cancel history!
What a pathetic and weak bunch.
I'm not riding a fence and I"m not preaching. I have my beliefs and you have yours. And both are entitled to share our views.
I don't care if you call yourself a lil pony or Karl Marx hisself...... screw your life up as much as you like, just so the insanity doesn't touch me, I. Don't. Care.
But that's not what's happening. There is only ONE group actively trying to take my freedoms and my rights, even my property. Getting tired of the "both sides do it" BS and the "I still have my rights" BS as you see attack after attack on those rights from THIS administration.... which some clearly voted for. You should ignore that. Look the other way, move along, nothing to see here....
And if you can't clearly see and admit these people YOU voted for have FUBARed everything they have touched in just a matter of months (if not intentionally sabotaged such as open borders, identity politics, race relations, Afghanistan, etc. etc.) then you too are part of the problem.
Maybe Foxworthy should do a "You might be a Marxist/Globalist" bit. First line would be "if you voted for Biden and think you made a good decision....." or "if you think they AREN'T coming after your rights...." or "if you think it's the Right that are the fascist dictators...." or "white rage and Trump voters are the worst threat to the country since 9/11 and the Civil War..." or " we should defund the police...."
Could do this all day..... as stated above.... no ammo shortage there..... right now there is one group of people that are pumping out stupid and anti-American every minute. And I'm seeing some embrace it.
Maybe the hard core leftists AREN'T the majority of Dems. It is certainly those who are attacking ME and my rights, and I take such attacks personally. But if the soft squishy don't want to get involved beta middle don't stand up to them and tell them to sit down and STF up.... then yeah, they really are all in the same pool and will be treated as such. That's a decision THEY have to make. But for many they just won't.... or can't. And honestly I don't know which is worse.... apathy or fear.
LOL! You're right there are no statues, memorials, traditions, etc. that have been taken down, destroyed or done away with. It's all made up. And you're right, again, in that you dems are not in favor of allowing illegal aliens into this country. Sheesh.
And who said anything about religion? At what windmill are you tilting now?
Weak, pathetic, delusional baby killers.
I'd expect no less from his old ass...He and Pelosi can't croak fast enough!!! But, I do love the lil ol' guy....Lol
This fear of a consequence does not come from man, because as the Atheist believes that once you die, you die. There is no afterlife, their is no cognitive recollection of mortal memory. You simply break down to the basic elements you're made up of. According to this belief, it would be more prudent to live life to the fullest in regard to the carnal state of man, nearly equal to that of any animal, by taking advantage of those around you to experience as much "joy" as you can. The Atheist doesn't because of an innate fear of the consequence not issued by man. If man's laws execute you for misdeeds, so what. It doesn't matter because your cognitive processes cease anyway. Wanting to do good comes from a higher authority other than man.
This is why the SCOTUS jurists in Roe v. Wade got it wrong big time.
What nonsense. If an atheist doesn't believe in the afterlife, the only thing they have is this life. And in this life, the only external bounds they have come from the laws of man. Secondarily, one does not have to believe in god or an afterlife to see value in many judeo-christian principles. You are just projecting.
What a stunning load of horse apples they're feeding you kids these days. But I don't blame you, they tried that deep indoctrination on me 60 years ago. I walked away and never looked back.
He's not talking about a relative value like you are, but the absolute value of good, hence, God. I guess you missed that detail.
'Ike' (Phone)'s Link
You're talking about Humanism, the religion without God, as did Horace Mann, a foundation character in modern American education. Basically, man is the measure of all things. - Protagoras
I'll wait patiently while you gather a meaningful rebuttal. You are going to have to it by explaining away the existence of a supreme Being though...
You sure do jump to conclusions a lot. I didn't have input on Obamacare but our office did. They took a plan we created - The Prescription for Pennsylvania- and reviewed it to see if there were pieces worth including in their plan. And, while there were positives to Obamacare there were also shortcomings. So while I do consider some parts of Obamacare a success I do not believe the entire package was at all. But more people did get insurance, people with pre-existing conditions could not be denied coverage, and health insurance was more affordable for some.
On the other hand health care costs rose for others as insurers exited the market, stopped getting reimbursed for cost-sharing reductions and concerns about the long-term viability (based on Republican's never-ending threats to dismantle the program) caused concern and fears. The mandate was wrong and some people lost hours (and income) or jobs due to the 50 employee rule.
Aside from all that, everything you said in your original post is absolutely misinformation.
Take the Boy Scout Code - A Scout is trustworthy, loyal... I'm eleven out of the 12 ;-)
" If I handled peoples money the way they've handled SS I would be in prison. " Yeah, that's documented because Bernie Madoff got caught doing it.
Are you joking? Can you say 'Texas'?
Do you know any other words than simple, weak and pathetic? Those are such a lame attempt to discredit people. And your equations are so biased that they are laughable.
Phil - what about the baby murdering issue is religious? I see it from a purely scientific perspective. Life begins at conception. It is literally a new life with its own DNA. And please, pray tell ;), where God has a place in our Government that is affecting policies that keep you from your lib-focused rights?
I know plenty of words. You libs are the ones who won't acknowledge them or work feverishly to redefine them. I've only used accurate and descriptive words to draw attention to the fact that it is only the weak and pathetic who would utilize government policy to advocate for the killing of the innocent. Only the weak would use the legal system to steal from the producers to give to the non-producers. And the fact that you actually believe in what you're doing makes you pathetic - look up the definition, it's accurate.
And my equations aren't biased as much as they are discerning. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it probably isn't a horse. My description about your voiced beliefs being socialistic (and therefore anti-American) are accurate.
Really? The religious extremists in Texas passed an anti-abortion law that I can only describe as FASCIST. Paying people to INFORM on anyone who even drives a friend to an abortion clinic? Ten thousand dollar REWARDS TO INFORMANTS ? You are worse than the goddam Taliban. You people are a disgrace to Jesus.
But you already knew all that, you're just being a facetious clown.
Yep. I'm sure Jesus applauds when those that practice indiscriminate, non-marital sex get pregnant and murder the babies they've created. You may want to read up on who He is.
And in purely scientific terms, could you explain how life doesn't begin at conception? We'll wait...and remember don't use your feelings....only science.
Oh, and regarding the legal issue...are we to assume that you think it is wrong for someone to turn in a criminal?
You said atheists do not have a fear of consequences that come from man because they do not believe in an after life. Given that, the only consequences they have to fear are those of man. Your position makes no sense.
But to your point, you can have 2 people who make the same moral decisions but for different reasons. Many atheists follow most of the 10 commandments simply because they see it as the right thing to do. Some do it out of a fear of god and possible repercussions in an afterlife that may or may not exist. Based on my life experience, I'd much rather put my faith in someone who subscribes to doing the right thing for intrinsic reasons than out of fear. It seems to make for a more durable resolve.
Really?...your side wants to pay people, NOT to shoot other people. Why don't we ALL get paid for not shooting people? It all boils down to paying people, not to KILL other people.
By the way...you just took the lords name in vain. I'm assuming you don't consider YOURself as a disgrace to Jesus?
You need to make up your mind...are we nazis, or are we taliban? There is a difference, you're side has accused us of both. Please clarify...hypocrit!!!
Feed me, pay my rent, payoff my student loan and take care of my sorry a$$ when I do not accept individual responsibility. The left talks about basic human rights but say nothing about individual responsibility!
How can you have one without the other. This is the basic rule of parenting. As Johnny shows more responsibility Johnny gains more autonomy.
We Americans are so dumb!
P.S. if you are still defending Biden it has be your ego because your brain knows better. So much for the altruistic left...
"By the way...you just took the lords name in vain. I'm assuming you don't consider YOURself as a disgrace to Jesus?"
Don't you know that to hide behind a hypocrite means you are smaller than they are.
" Based on my life experience, I'd much rather put my faith in someone who subscribes to doing the right thing for intrinsic reasons than out of fear. It seems to make for a more durable resolve." Fear is intrinsic. Your bias is that people without God are superior? Really? Like we haven't heard that before.
This is just the beginning fellas. Now we will send billions in aid, and import unvetted "refugees" of which a reasonable percentage will be mentally deranged terrorists ready to kill innocents. Get ready for the next 9/11, it is coming to our soil aided by China Joe.
Prayers for comfort to those families who lost loved ones, and for those who will be lost under this inept administration.
Florida restaurant owner posts sign telling Biden supporters to 'take business elsewhere'
The sign has received mixed reactions
By Andrew Mark Miller | Fox News
A Florida restaurant owner raised eyebrows after posting a sign outside the front door telling Biden supporters to dine elsewhere, citing his recent handling of the American military withdrawal from Afghanistan.
"If you voted for and continue to support and stand behind the worthless, inept and corrupt administration currently inhabiting the White House that is complicit in the death of our servicemen and women in Afghanistan, please take your business elsewhere," a sign posted outside the Debary Diner in Debary, Florida said, according to Fox 35 Orlando.
"It was the only thing I felt like I could do," said the restaurant’s owner, Angie Ugarte.
Ugarte, who has run the diner for five years, added that she was "angry" after learning about the 13 service members killed by a suicide bombing last week.
She added that many of her regular customers are veterans and has dedicated an entire wall in her restaurant to honoring veterans and their families.
"If you really, really still stand behind what’s allowed this to happen and the way it happened — which was unnecessary — then I really don’t want to be associated with you in any way and I certainly don’t want your business," she explained to FOX 35 News.
Customer reactions have been mixed, with some thinking that Ugarte can serve whomever she pleases and others saying they don’t support the move.
"I’ve had people come to the door and look at it and turn around and walk away. And I’ve had people come into the kitchen while I’m cooking and say, ‘Hey, I love your sign,’" Ugarte said.
Resident Louis Vasquez told Fox 35 News, "I wouldn’t go there. I don’t appreciate it," while another resident, Serenity Smith said, Ugarte "has the right to not let anybody in the restaurant that supports a certain view."
When asked how long the sign will stay up, Ugarte gave no specific timeline and pointed out that there are Americans still currently stranded in Afghanistan.
THIS atheist just wants the same rights as a person of any other system of thought/beliefs is accorded.
Where were you when Bush Sr. said in public that atheists don't have rights? *silence* I knew right then that a lot of people who spoke for freedom of religion were only concerned with their own church and to hell with the rest of us. Well okay. As long as the fanatics haven't cancelled my freedom of speech I'll believe what I believe and say what I think.
Don't expect me to stand by idly while you *legislate* your religious beliefs into laws. Some of us still believe in 'separation of church and state.'
I know…I know…kick them out of your camps. Undeniably dumb.
Danac is explainable now.
Explainable as in 'explain away'? Good luck with that ;-)
It used to be Dems and Republicans had the same goal for America, just different ways to get there. Not true today, the Libs want a far different America. Some of you apparently do too, all because of Donald's demeanor. Really, you violate your own principles because of one person's behavior?
Or Reagan. Or Goldwater. Or Ford. Or Ike. Or Teddy...
This actually made me LOL. Against what "rights" of yours is war being waged? Collectively, we as Citizens have rights. Do you have special rights that are in some danger? You intimated above to be pro baby-murder...is that it? Are you thinking of getting pregnant so you can kill an innocent?
I'll fight alongside you if you have rights being trampled upon. I'll just need to know that we are on the same page from a factual standpoint. I'm sure you must have just missed it, but I asked you earlier if you would be so kind as to, "...in purely scientific terms, explain how life doesn't begin at conception?" using only science and not feelings.
C'mon Dana, I'm attempting to find common ground and walk shoulder-to-shoulder with you. For your RIGHTS!
This morning my long term assistant (31 years)very pro-life was shocked at the aspect of turning in your neighbors for $.
But I have a question.......Why not bring back the Community Forum?
That's because Pat has made some allowances after the Community Forum went away. Which is his prerogative as owner. Those allowances do not extend to the Leatherwall.
It's ex Deputy Assistant SecDef under Bush Pardo-Maurer.
Could be true or false or definitely could be more complicated than that. If true, it should be surprising but unfortunately it won't be surpising.
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Didn’t the spokes person for the pentagon John Kirby just days ago tell all us Americans they they disabled everything before they left?
I have never seen so many lies told by politicians and public officials. The “information” they keep telling us are proven false almost in real time over, and over, and over.
"I’ve commented but I’m going to take this a step father concerning accountability… the life’s lost of our military hero’s is NOT only upon the president but every American who voted him in office… you who voted for Biden and supported him, I hope you understand your part in accountability as well… your endorsement of Biden for president made what happened these last few weeks a reality…this never would have happened under our former President,…like him or not, it never would have happened. "
Just to keep things based in reality - Trump negotiated the end of our involvement in Afghanistan in February, 2020. He agreed to immediately reduce the number of service members. He released 5,000 Taliban prisoners. And he agreed to have all US service members, civilian and military contractors out of the country within 14 months of the agreement date (which should have been May 2021).
63 military members died in Afghanistan while Trump was President. Following your logic, everyone that voted for Trump shares responsibility for that.
Service members died in Afghanistan under four administrations. Their deaths are all tragic and many could have been prevented if any of the previous administrations had ended our operations in that country. There's plenty of blame to go around for both parties.
I want hearings. I want to know how this went down and who made what decision and why? And who decided to leave Americans, allies, and military equipment behind?
biden made the move, he nailed it
the atrocities to come are also not biden's fault, he's only been in office for a few months
good stuff, thanks
So are you saying we should have kept troops there?
6 lies Joe Biden told about Afghanistan
By Post Editorial Board September 1, 2021 7:44pm Updated
How can any American believe anything President Biden says after he’s lied so blatantly about an Afghanistan evacuation he claims was an “extraordinary success”?
LIE: “Americans understand we’re going to try and get it done before Aug. 31,” President Biden told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos Aug. 19. “And if there are American citizens left, we’re going to stay until we get them all out.” He reiterated the promise the next day at the White House: “But let me be clear, any American who wants to come home, we will get you home.”
TRUTH: Even Biden himself admits Americans remain stranded in Afghanistan as he withdrew the last US forces before getting them home. “Ninety percent of Americans in Afghanistan who wanted to leave were able to leave,” he said Tuesday. US Central Command head Gen. Frank McKenzie confirmed the day before that some Americans trying to escape couldn’t get to the Kabul airport — and the last five jets left without a single American on board.
LIE: “We’re making the same commitment,” Biden said Aug. 20, to Afghans who assisted America in the war effort, “those Afghans who have worked alongside us, served alongside of us, gone into combat with us and provided invaluable assistance to us,” he said. “They’re equally important, almost.”
TRUTH: On Wednesday, a senior State Department official confessed to NBC News that “the majority of Afghans who helped” the United States “didn’t make it out of Kabul.” The official didn’t have the number of special immigrant visa applicants who remain in Afghanistan but said “it’s the majority of them.”
LIE: “The United States stands by its commitment that we’ve made to these people, and it includes other vulnerable Afghans, such as women leaders and journalists,” Biden said Aug. 20.
TRUTH: Team Biden didn’t even ensure American-employed journalists made it to safety. Five hundred US Agency for Global Media journalists, working for outlets such as Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, and their family members were left to the mercy of the Taliban, who have already begun bullying Afghan reporters. Sources told USA Today that “miscommunication” and “the Taliban not clearing them for exit” were to blame. Just 50 US-sponsored journalists made it out — thanks to other governments, not our own.
LIE: Asked by a reporter July 8, “Do you see any parallels between this withdrawal and what happened in Vietnam,” Biden was indignant. “None whatsoever. Zero.”
TRUTH: Not even a month after Biden spoke those words, pictures came from Kabul of a US helicopter flying over the American embassy. Nearly 200 Americans fled the Baron Hotel on Chinooks when they couldn’t reach the Kabul airport, just 650 feet away, any other way.
LIE: Biden vowed to continue providing the Afghan army with air support. “I’ll insist we continue to keep the commitments we made of providing close air support, making sure that their air force functions and is operable,” he said Aug. 10. He’d made the promise to Afghan President Ashraf Ghani in a July 23 phone call that was leaked Wednesday. “We will continue to provide close air support,” Biden said. “And all the way through the end of August, and who knows what after that.”
TRUTH: The Wall Street Journal reported Aug. 14, “In the wake of President Biden’s withdrawal decision, the US pulled its air support, intelligence and contractors servicing Afghanistan’s planes and helicopters. That meant the Afghan military simply couldn’t operate anymore.” That puts paid to Biden’s repeated claim that the Afghan army simply folded because it didn’t want to fight.
LIE: “Your own intelligence community has assessed that the Afghan government will likely collapse,” a reporter told the president July 8, to which a defensive Biden responded, “That is not true.” He added that “the likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely.”
TRUTH: In fact, Biden knew the Taliban were overtaking the Afghan government — and asked Ghani to lie about it. The perception “is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban,” Biden said. “And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture.” Ghani gave him the facts: “We are facing a full-scale invasion, composed of Taliban, full Pakistani planning and logistical support, and at least 10-15,000 international terrorists, predominantly Pakistanis thrown into this.” Biden ignored them.
Learn to sort it out boys
Mr Biden will not do anything for the peoples in the south who were decimated in the south by Ida. So people when they age become like a sweet child others become nasty and spiteful. Mr Biden has the latter. He and kind must be voted out and the catholics of the southern regions will not support him or his party.
In other words, asking for a “political favor” by Trump, which led to his impeachment, has to apply to Biden. If you are truly a decent man and human. If not, you are what plaques the earth.
I want to hear impeachment coming from the mouths of those that have stated Trump’s was justified.
This coming from a guy who has never said anything negative EVER about Trump. Base on your own words, I guess that makes you a plague.
China Joe's failures in 8 months are growing so fast, its impossible to list them all.
KS, you're funny. You'll break your back to uphold the empty suit of China joe, yet you obsess over the presence of "Shawn Magyar", who in my opinion, hasn't said anything worse than you have here. Yet you, and YOU alone, incessantly rally for his removal. I think you're more upset that he adds something to conversation, than you are about his name/handle.
Y'all still have 3 more years of being beat down for supporting the biggest presidential failure to date. You're rapidly running out of defense tactics!! It'll be interesting to see how long you last.
I don't understand why it's so hard for many on the right to accept that there was no mail-in voter fraud. That lie has been disproven many times over. Countless Republican state officials and numerous audits have proven this.
And as long as there continues to be gerrymandering by state Republicans we will never truly have citizens represented in congress.
I am for doing away with secret ballots and having one's vote be fully visible to him or her self, as well as every one else. If nothing else, this would allow for people to ensure that their vote was properly registered. Additionally, it would bring the voting rolls fully into the light, so they might be properly expunged of illegal votes.
Barring this, we will just have to continually deal with the speculation of voter fraud.
Last election was a mess due to these alleged "improvements". The election was corrupted and many questions remain. I'm not holding my breath for truthful answers but it sure is telling that the dems are pushing so hard for these tactics to be the norm.
I am required to prove my identity and pay for a background check each time I purchase a gun which in good times may be multiple times a year or even a month.
Imagine telling people they need ID, a multiple page questionnaire, and they have to pay for a background check before voting.
"Just because some Republican officials declared no fraud dont effect my opinion anyway..lot them didnt want Trump in to begin with. No way did slithering Joe win that election legally. Cant prove it I know but I would bet a million on it if I had it"
How in the [email protected]#l do you square those two statements?
Then I assume there's a reasonable explanation as to why this felon was caught with over 300 recall ballots, guns and drugs? ...Or is this another one of your "red herrings"?...or perhaps it's just more of that pesky "misinformation" that you joe voters are so keen at spotting?
To TGBow's point, I care a lot about facts. They are the basis for sound decision making. And as far as mail-in fraud or voter fraud, the facts are crystal clear - there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election. Were there ones and twos here and there absolutely. That's been proven. But there was nothing anywhere near the scale to change the outcome of the election. Even Bill Barr said that.
What's interesting to me is that according to some, or many, of you all Democrats lie, many Republicans lie, the media lies, the generals lie, past administration officials from both parties lie....yet the one beacon of truth is Trump. A man who conned countless people out of their money, lied virtually every time he spoke in public, had 13 failed businesses and six bankruptcies and has changed his political affiliation at least four times - from Republican to Reform to Democrat and back to Republican.
Dang, and the media didnt bury him..how could that be. Phil, I may not agree with Trump on everything but compared to what we got there is a big difference. But, you have the right to support who you want..I just find it hard to believe with you being a hunter you would vote for your own demise
LMAO that is exactly what you did and did it twice. Unbelievable.
"Go ahead and support those that want to usher in Marxism..its your choice but dont complian when their antihunting buddies effect our hunting privileges"
Ok now I'm a Marxist lol. Go ahead with the gaslighting. Besides, I'm not even sure you really know what Marxism is. But I'll bet you think we have a purely "capitalistic" economy today. Lastly, show me anywhere at any time where Biden voted to ban hunting.
They Dems here hijacked and flipped a solid republican district by remapping a crazy shape to merge in hard core democrats from "Silver Spring" along the DC line.
If paying taxes is your bar, governments with socialism economies collect taxes and a lot of it. I pay taxes too and I didn’t get a Trump check.
As far as Biden owning those deaths in Afghanistan, he owns them as well as the COVID deaths that have ensued since he was elected. The media, lib progressives and other water carriers set the narrative blaming Trump for every COVID death under his watch. Despite the fact that many liberal progressives and leftists were on the evening news nightly saying Trump was over reacting when he initially implemented travel restrictions. All those naysayers don't want you to remember any of that though, rewriting the narrative as they go.
You know the media is biased when the leftists are silent about the narrative being splashed across our nightly "news". If Trump or any other "Republican" were in office and had handled that Afghanistan draw down so ham handedly, it would be the leading 20 minutes of "news" on every one of the network "news" nightly programs from now till the next election. Imagine the reaction if the media was so blatantly biased the other direction.
So I guess you don't believe in trickle down.
“Socialism is based on the idea of public ownership of the means of production, but individuals may still own property.“
I stand by my previous post and you don’t know what your talking about. Good luck with that.
........ In other words, don't blame us for our 8 months of total incompetence.
On another note, how's Biden doing on squashing COVID in it's tracks the day you guys elected him? That's what he promised. Statistically, the progressive electorate is a huge chunk of the number still unvaccinated. I'm surprised that the progressive media isn't hammering him with his daily COVID death count on that, ala Trump.
Has the progressive left figured out the "root cause" of the non-crisis on our southern border yet? I'm sure it had nothing to do with the campaign promises noodles was spouting from his basement campaign headquarters/hideout prior to the election.
Russian collusion, talk to noodles about his supporting the russian pipeline but not our own. Then there is that classic slap down OPEC laid on him when he went crawling to them asking them to ramp up oil production.
You water carriers for Biden/Harris crack me up, keep trying to defend that vote, the amusement factor is priceless. Biden is defeated, it's in his body language when he leaves his pressers without answering any tough questions. What a disgrace, turning his back, shoulders slumped, slinking away ..... It's sad in a pathetic way that the left is propping up an old man who is not in full possession of his faculties. What's even sadder is who the left is propping up to fill the void when even they can't deny the obvious.
The manifesto was created by two wretched souls. Communism and Socialism is most indeed routed in Marxism. Where the idea is based!
“Much like communism, socialism is a system of politics and economics with roots in Marxist ideals. In socialism, a central government owns all means of wealth, but individuals can still own property. Additionally, unlike the violent uprisings that can arise with communism, socialism typically occurs more organically through reforms and changes with an elected government. While a true socialist society doesn’t exist, a few close runner ups are Norway and Denmark. However, these governments still have capitalist sectors.“
The Flatworlder has tried to give false Prophet here.
Maybe, but if the machine is connected to a computer, like Dominion Voting Systems, all the counts across many states make up for slow Democrat vote counters, in unison. Even Elizabeth Warren complained about that.
Maybe, but if the machine is connected to a computer, like Dominion Voting Systems, all the counts across many states make up for slow Democrat vote counters, in unison. Even Elizabeth Warren complained about that.
The federal government shouldn't be collecting taxes from individuals, but from the states, IMHO. After all, the states created the federal government in 1787.
Most people think the states that are doing vote Audits are looking overturn vote totals.
Not what is happening. They are showing the data and how votes were corrupted so state legislatures can get state law changed by early 2022 deadlines for next federal and state elections.
Shawn Magyar/Zap- you obviously have some serious mental health issues.
The water carriers here would have you forget that fact.
People talking about Trump's scruples can, to borrow a phrase from KSspinmeister, STFU.
It’s your statement not mine. I just wanted to know if that had ever really happened. Evidently it was more hyperbole.
The One Flatworlder reminds me on the wretched Fredrich Engels the Revolutionary Marxist German. Who worked in capitalism and funded the broke hapless Karl Marx. Two radical Woke individuals whose radicalist tenancies followed to extreme killed easily 100 million humans need we forget.
Only a Closet Super Socialist would even ponder delinking Socialism from Marxism. Simply not possible.
Trump wanted that do more than reform it.
It’s hard to take you seriously when you claim facts don’t matter to the left. Evidently they don’t matter to you either.
The endangered species here are Biden voters based on jobs and polling numbers today
"I am heading home... Have we been helping get Americans out of Afghanistan, yes. Is the mission continuing, yes. Am I missing, no," he wrote in a post on Instagram on Wednesday. "Am I extremely disappointed in how we (United States) left Americans behind… that would be an understatement."
At the same time he will start his Drone Wars. Not going shut down the MIC .
Correct.... technically. That would require them to actually purchase the property. They don't HAVE to. The other half of this split hair is they can and DO tell you not to use said land as you needed because of said kangaroo rat, just like they owned it.
Win-win for government. They still get control (the real purpose) and aren't out any money but for those jobs and industries which profit off that control. And the property owner still gets tagged with taxes, maintenance and the lower property values that go along with being tagged with an environmental "regulation". Great little arrangement.
But back on the OP tracks...... Biden is a lying, grifting POS and for sale whore. Always has been and always will be. Dems voted for him knowing he's been bought and paid for, even lied FOR him when they knew it was a lie. But thought he was their ticket to control, power, rolling back freedoms and rights. Good luck with that. One can bail off that bandwagon at any time though..... that is, if they really want to. All it takes is a bit of honestly and a pinch of contrition.... back to that responsibility thing...... if you voted for him you aren't exactly blameless. Unless you were blindfolded there were no surprises. Honestly "I messed it up" is a LOT more than you are EVER going to get from House Plant and his merry band......
The OP was about "incompetent leadership". Already stated I think the Dems direction and plans are baseline evil..... it is the common citizen who own this country, there are no "levels" of citizens rank. They own the government, government operates at their pleasure. But the government thinks it is they who own the citizens. And that pesky Bill of Rights and Constitution that grants from God and not government, the CITIZENS personal sovereign power.... gets in the way of that. Evil people who ALWAYS justify their evil as "it's for your own good..." That's the current "leadership".
WRT the "incompetent" part, that's pretty much our Ace in the Hole. The vast majority of them clearly have never held a real job where you are held responsible for your actions and judged solely by your results, not your "intentions". They are cocktail party classroom academics and elitists with little to no common sense or practical knowledge of how to pull off their coup. Having lived in their elitist bubbles their whole life surrounded only by other elitists, they are pretty much clueless as to the real world around them, they see themselves as above that. And honestly could care less about those "other" people, commoners and "deplorables".... just as long as THEY look good to other elitists. And don't have to be responsible when they are wrong. Often quite literally.... dead wrong.
No clearer example than the Afghanistan Surrender. A much clearer, bloody and more dramatic example than "defund the police...." "mostly peaceful protests" or Open Borders, etc. What we need is less "woke" leaders and generals..... we need core people to "Wake TFU!" No more apathy. No more fear.
Action people. Or they will be proven right that people will give up rights and freedom in order to be herded like sheep and "taken care of". And Government OF the people BY the people will be no more.
One has to look very close when electing so called action guys. There are now more and more good ones, Crenshaw, Zinke, Green, Earnst, etc.
Lot of chicken hawks out there. Do a tour and they think they are John Kerry ready to screw up for 40yrs in Gvt. Not a leader a war activist.
Dems had prolly the best middle road person in Tulsi Gabbards. Dems did not want her type Leadership and they preferred Jobama and got him. She is the one that exposed Harris for the empty pant suit she is. Proven true by the fact that Newsom wants her no where near him i on the recall election stump in CA.
We can hopefully get thru to Joe Manchin and stop the madness. Maybe he has a sense that the republic is Teter ing on the edge.
If a GOPer takes CA which i find extraordinary, its a whole new game in DC. Mr Biden will likely be hampered in many way to get much done. Thats 3 yrs where it could get worse in world, much worse. I really hope it does not and Mr Joe comes back to where he sat on the fence for fifty years, right in middle. Hiding in plain sight?
""The State Department's delays are recklessly endangering American lives, three different individuals involved in the private evacuation effort told Fox News.
Rick Clay, who runs the private rescue group PlanB, told Fox News that the State Department is the only thing preventing the flights he's organizing from leaving Afghanistan.
Two other American individuals separately involved in evacuation efforts, whom Fox News is not naming to avoid jeopardizing ongoing rescue efforts, similarly said that the State Department is the sole entity preventing their charter flights from leaving Afghanistan.
"This is zero place to be negotiating with American lives. Those are our people standing on the tarmac and all it takes is a f****ing phone call," one of those individuals, who has been integral to private evacuation efforts from Afghanistan, told Fox News.
"If one life is lost as a result of this, the blood is on the White House's hands. The blood is on their hands," that individual said, adding: "It is not the Taliban that is holding this up – as much as it sickens me to say that – it is the United States government."
That individual suggested that the State Department's obstruction is motivated in part by embarrassment that private individuals are rescuing Americans that the U.S. government left behind.
Those seeking clearance to land in Qatar were informed by military channels that they must first go through the State Department to gain approval, an email reviewed by Fox News shows.
Clay has a manifest of 4,500 names of U.S. citizens, green card holders, SIVs and refugees trying to get state-side. So far, they've given the State Department 800 names for a first round of flights. Fox News has reviewed that manifest, which confirms Clay's account. ""
Looks like they had it right. And House Plant and his Merry Woke Band once again showcasing their incompetence.