Who In 2024?
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JL 26-Nov-21
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JTreeman 26-Nov-21
JL 26-Nov-21
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Woods Walker 26-Nov-21
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JL 26-Nov-21
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From: JL
26-Nov-21
Just read an article about prospective 2024 Prez candidates for the Repub side. Earlier I seen one for the Dem side.

Repub side:

Trump

Mike Pence

Chris Christie

Mike Pompeo

Nikki Haley

Ron DeSantis

Kristi Noem

Chris Sununu

Tom Cotton

Ted Cruz

On the Dem side:

Prez Biden

VP Harris

Mayor Pete

For the Repubs.....I could live with Desantis, Pence, Cruz, Cotton, Pompeo and Trump.

Christie...no

Sununu.....probably not

Noem....might be viewed as not enough experience

Haley...definitely not. She sold out to the left-wing extremists and cancel culture crowd and supported statue removals when she was Gov.

For the Dems.....the only one I would ever be concerned about for 2024 if he were to run would be Manchin....but he has not shown any interest. Tulsi Gabbard has been tip-toeing around Fox News lately which has me thinking she might be quietly trying to appeal to a broader audience in the middle. Other than that....the Dems do not have a quality bench and IMO will come into 2024 as damaged goods thanks to the extreme Leftists, Socialist and Marxist elements within the Dem party that have taken over. Middle America won't tolerate that and the moderate types that voted for Biden and Harris now realize they made a mistake and have buyers remorse. Plus Prez Biden and VP Harris will be the poster children for what's wrong with the country right now.....and IMO that poster is well deserved.

From: Sivart
26-Nov-21
I fear we won't have a country left by 2024.

From: JL
26-Nov-21
Manchin would get alot of moderate votes in addition to the Dem votes. That's why I'd be concerned if he ran.

If the Repubs do what they normally do.....viciously flame and frag each other during the primaries...do the work for the media and Dems....that will hurt come the general election when they need to be united.

From: Matt
26-Nov-21
Not sure I really like anyone on the Republican list and am quietly hoping that Trump is too mired in legal issues to be a candidate. My fear is he wouldn't get the Republican nomination, his ego wouldn't allow for him to step aside, he would run as an independent, split the conservative vote, and hand the Dems 4 more years.

From: Zbone
26-Nov-21
I really like that Republican House Minority leader Kevin McCarthy... I understand he's from California but I like his message of right wing conservatives and everything he's said so far that I've seen/heard... Hey, Reagan was from Cali...8^)

From: JL
26-Nov-21
Matt....good point about what Trump might do.

From: BC
26-Nov-21
Wouldn’t vote for a dem…ever.

From: JTreeman
26-Nov-21
I miss discussions about Tom Miranda, Fred Eichler, Chuck Adams, Randy Ulmer, etc…

—Jim

From: JL
26-Nov-21
Dan.....you also bring up an interesting Trump point. If the 2022 candidates he supports do well....that might bode well for him. If I was one of the other potential Repub candidates wanting to position myself for 2024....I'd also pick out and support some 2022 candidates. If your pick wins....that would bode well for the picker. If your pick whiffs on the 2022 election day....well....that would not be a good look.

From: JL
26-Nov-21
"I miss discussions about Tom Miranda, Fred Eichler, Chuck Adams, Randy Ulmer, etc…

—Jim"

I don't know the politics of those guys, but they could always run for Prez or Congress or state gov. Then we could talk about them too. Just saying.....

From: spike78
26-Nov-21
I’d like to see a Desantis and Nome card!

From: Drnaln
26-Nov-21
The best thing Trump could do for the country is just step aside & endorse Desantis for president! Nome would be a pretty pick for VP!

From: Woods Walker
26-Nov-21
"....and hand the Dems 4 more years."

That's what you Never Trumper's are for. We all thank you every time we pay more for gas and see bare shelves in the stores. You ARE good at what you do. THANKS.......not....

From: JTreeman
26-Nov-21
Or maybe you could take your political speculation, whining, and bitching to a political website and let bowsite be bowsite again. Just sayin…

—Jim

From: Woods Walker
26-Nov-21
Or maybe you could exercise your freedom of personal choice and NOT click on threads that get your panties in a wad.

From: Matt
26-Nov-21
"That's what you Never Trumper's are for."

So people who voted for Trump twice are now Never Trumpers? Just stupid.

From: 70lbdraw
26-Nov-21
Or maybe you could take your political speculation, whining, and bitching to a political website and let bowsite be bowsite again. Just sayin… —Jim

Some of us care about the future of this country. If you don't... that's your right. You also have the right to go elsewhere to piss-n-moan about something you can easily ignore!...just sayin...

From: Stix
26-Nov-21
Hopefully Trump will stay out and only give an endorsement. He has too many enemies both on the left and right, as well as being too divisive, controversial, etc and can't win. Would love to see him appointed speaker of the house if R's win house. You don't have to be house member to be speaker.. If he runs as a 3rd party candidate. Dems win for sure.

From: Bou'bound
26-Nov-21
How did randy ulmer make out on the mule deer this season

From: AccMan
26-Nov-21
I would rather see Don Jr run than Don Sr. Jr is very articulate and would eat the Dem's lunch during debates.

From: BC173
26-Nov-21
DeSantis and Noem right now. With Biden in there now, lets just hope we can weather the storm between now and then.

From: drycreek
26-Nov-21
I’m not a never Trumper, voted for him both times. Keep in mind though that he lost the last election. Say it was rigged if you want to but nobody proved it in court. I don’t think Trump can win in 2024 but if he’s nominated I’ll damn sure vote for him. I didn’t like Trump the man when I voted for him the first time or the second time, still don’t like him. However, I put the country ahead of my personal likes and dislikes, and I like what he did and what he wanted to do for this country.

From: JL
26-Nov-21
DJT Jr would be an interesting choice. I'd like to know more about all of his positions first. Ya....we know he hunts. The things I would research are things such as what is his executive business experience, any skeletons in his closet (think Hunter Biden), what are his positions on abortion, marriage, religion, etc.

From: Bowhunter09
26-Nov-21
I agree with stix

From: AccMan
26-Nov-21
I would rather see Don Jr run than Don Sr. Jr is very articulate and would eat the Dem's lunch during debates.

From: KSflatlander
26-Nov-21
“Or maybe you could take your political speculation, whining, and bitching to a political website and let bowsite be bowsite again. Just sayin…“

I say let them keep bitching. It’s great entertainment in the treestand. I have to make sure my harness is good and hooked up or I’ll fall out of the tree laughing at things like this:

“The man got more votes than any Repub in history.”

But not more than an out of touch old woman (2016) or an old man with dementia (2020). That’s what the MAJORITY of Americans think of Trump. LMAO. Also, as if there isn’t more voters than anytime in American history. Completely and totally oblivious.

I didn’t realize watching snowflakes melt could be so entertaining.

From: Stix
26-Nov-21
Danny boy, I liked everything he did as president with exception that there was no stability in his administration. Constantly firing/hiring people in the foreign policy areas. Not good for stability of country.

His "rally's" reminded me of the old footage hitler rallys in the 30's and 40's

As former military, he lost my vote when he called in SOCOM operators to act against civilians so he could do a photo-op with a Bible at a church. Blatantly unconstitutional. He should try reading it instead of taking photo's holding it.

That being said, he picked the best supreme court justices.

Bottom line, in 2020, I voted Libertarian and would do the same if he ran again in 2024.

From: Coyote 65
26-Nov-21
Trump Yes

Mike Pence Dead Politician Walking

Chris Christie Fat Politician Walking

Mike Pompeo Possible Vice

Nikki Haley Nope, Dem Wannabe.

Ron DeSantis Possible Vice

Kristi Noem Too young

Chris Sununu Who?

Tom Cotton Better job would be getting the alphabet agencies under control

Ted Cruz Serious Vice

On the Dem side:

Prez Biden YUP best idea yet.

VP Harris He he he

Mayor Pete Only problem with him would be if his children or spouse has a head ache, he would have to take parental leave time.

26-Nov-21
Being from Joe Manchins state (WV) I can honestly tell you we don't want that hypocrite in that office! All this posturing about the budget is just that posturing for reelection in 2022. We he left WV for DC he did commercials touting his support for the 2nd amendment, first thing he did was side with Obummer on gun control. He is a lefty don't let that guy fool you. I'm going to start pursuing him not getting reelected come January.

From: woodguy65
26-Nov-21
If Trump runs he wins hands down, if he doesn’t Desantis/Noem.

Manchin would be a great pick for Dems but not enough old Dems left to elect him in primaries.

From: LBshooter
27-Nov-21
Christie, not a chance. Pence no and I hope he doesn't run. He's a nice guy but has no chance. I think a desantis/Pompey ticket would be outstanding. Two guys who don't take bs from the press. Either one of them with Nome as VP.

From: JL
27-Nov-21

JL's Link
"As former military, he lost my vote when he called in SOCOM operators to act against civilians so he could do a photo-op with a Bible at a church. Blatantly unconstitutional. He should try reading it instead of taking photo's holding it."

From an ABC News article.....

"Federal probe: Protest not broken up due to Trump photo op

An internal investigation has determined that the decision to clear racial justice protesters from an area in front of the White House last summer wasn't influenced by then-President Donald Trump’s plans for a photo opportunity at that spot

By ASHRAF KHALIL Associated Press

June 9, 2021, 1:57 PM

WASHINGTON -- An internal investigation has determined that the decision to forcibly clear racial justice protesters from an area in front of the White House last summer was not influenced by then-President Donald Trump's plan to stage a photo opportunity at that spot.

The report released Wednesday by the Interior Department's inspector general concludes that the protesters were cleared by U.S. Park Police last June 1 so that a contractor could get started installing new fencing.

The demonstrators were protesting the death of George Floyd, who died after a then-Minneapolis police officer knelt on his neck and pinned him to the ground for about 9 1/2 minutes. A half-hour after the Washington protesters were forced from the area with pepper pellets and flash-bangs, Trump walked across Lafayette Park amid the lingering scent of pepper spray and delivered a short speech while holding a Bible in front of St. John's Church.

Park Police officials had already planned to clear the area and “had begun implementing the operational plan several hours before they knew of a potential Presidential visit to the park,” Inspector General Mark Lee Greenblatt said in a statement accompanying the report. “We determined that the evidence did not support a finding that the USPP cleared the park on June 1, 2020, so that then President Trump could enter the park.”

The report determined that the decision to clear the protestors was justified, but that law enforcement agencies on the scene failed to effectively communicate with each other and failed to communicate warnings to the protestors about the impending crackdown. ....."

27-Nov-21
don desantis - kristy noem

ron desantis - tim scott

From: maytom
27-Nov-21
Trump all the way!!! Look at the southern border, never was an issue when Trump was in office. Biden halted finishing the "WALL"......look at the gas prices etc. 3 more years of this current moron and our country will be sad shape

From: DanaC
27-Nov-21
JL, imo 'internal investigation' equals 'whitewash'.

From: JL
27-Nov-21
Dana....if the order was given to clear out the rioters to put up fencing well before the police even knew Prez Trump was coming down, where is the whitewash?

From: timex
27-Nov-21
Don't think Trump stands a chance of riding the train back to DC. Don't think Biden stands a chance of a 2nd term. Ted Cruz strikes me as a no bs kinda guy & possible rep nominee. I haven't a clue on the dem side

From: HDE
27-Nov-21
DeSantis and Noem. Both have a wealth of experience and have both shown they will not back down to liberal media and branch of the democrat party.

Throw Candace Owens in there somewhere and you will have a rock solid campaign team.

From: JL
27-Nov-21
Candace Owens is a rock star....not too sure about her executive experience though. I don't think any of the top end prospects would back down from the incoming media barrage and attacks. That was Dubya's problem....he never called out the media bias and fake info.

From: DanaC
27-Nov-21
JL, the point is we only have an *internal* investigation saying so.

From: LBshooter
27-Nov-21
I would love to see Candace Owens as the next press sec. Lol the press would be scared to ask a question lol.

From: Candor
27-Nov-21
The dems are going to put Harris on supreme court, bring in Michelle Obama as VP and have her run in '24. Not my original idea, but one that scares the hell out of me.

From: PECO
27-Nov-21
I didn't read all of this, so pardon me if this was brought up. I believe AOC will be old enough to run in 2024. Just putting it out there.

From: JL
27-Nov-21
If any SCOTUS stuff is going to happen....it better be next year before the Senate switches over.

From: HDE
27-Nov-21
"Candace Owens is a rock star....not too sure about her executive experience though."

biden and harris have zero executive experience. The difference between them and Owens is that Owens isn't an idiot.

harris won't be appointed to the SCOTUS. Even the liberal senate left knows better than that...

From: Stix
27-Nov-21
We live in really screwed up times.

Maranatha!

From: Will
27-Nov-21
If that's my list, it will just be a pinch nostrils and check box election for me.

From: HDE
28-Nov-21
"I didn’t realize watching snowflakes melt could be so entertaining."

Yeah, we watched it for 4 years and it's just as entertaining to watch those same snowflakes today try and justify a poor choice in candidates last year...

From: 12yards
29-Nov-21
Any Republican besides Trump please for me.

From: Woods Walker
29-Nov-21
Who is John Galt?

From: Bob H in NH
29-Nov-21
I think Michelle Obama is about a serious option as when they wanted Oprah. Not happening.

If anyone steps in as VP it will be Hillary. And that ONLY if Harris goes away somewhere.

In 2024, AOC is old enough, but at best, VP, she wouldn't survive a debate, let alone a primary.

On the R side, I'd rather not have Trump, voted twice, and will again, but that guys has some scary tendencies and with a chip on his shoulder (bigger than normal), it would scare me.

I like Owens and press sec, but not as P/VP, no experience.

I'd like to see Cruz, but would he go through that again? I think he's also one Trump would endorse.

From: 70lbdraw
29-Nov-21
"that guys has some scary tendencies and with a chip on his shoulder (bigger than normal), it would scare me."

And what's going on in the current admin doesn't scare you?!? Lol!

From: TGbow
29-Nov-21
I would vote for a prolife Libertarian. As long as its not a Leftist or Neocon

From: JL
29-Nov-21
One thing about the current Admin tearing the country down, it would make sense whatever Repub comes in afterward can only take things upward in a positive direction.

Any Dem will have to run with an anti-Biden/Harris platform if they even want to have a prayer of winning.

The news was saying this afternoon the Harris team is miffed (mad?) at Mayor Pete for stealing all the media play as a Prez candidate.

Also.....if DJT Sr does not run and a Repub wins, I can see DJT Jr fitting into a cabinet position somewhere....or at least getting an offer.

From: Shaft2Long
30-Nov-21
Since we’re all just speculating I’d like Tom Cotton or DeSantis as President. Mark Robinson, NC Lt. Gov as VP.

I also really like Jim Jordan but he does a great job in the Senate.

Somebody earlier mentioned Gabbard, she’s really playing the centrist role, she’s a veteran and sounds intelligent, lucid. I actually think she would pull all the Republicans that don’t want Trump plus whatever so called moderates there are as well as the people who regret voting for the current idiot in chief but won’t admit it. Might come down to her VP choice but I think she would beat Trump.

I guess I must clarify, I wouldn’t vote for her but I think she can pull it off.

From: Woods Walker
30-Nov-21
Who? ANYONE who's not spent their entire adult working life as a politician and never held a real job where they actually had to produce something. All they're good at is getting re-elected and they have NO idea on how our system works.

Trump spoiled me!

From: DanaC
30-Nov-21

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30-Nov-21
Desantis+Tim Scott

From: KSflatlander
30-Nov-21
Poor Shawn. Did you get woked again? You have to be close to running out of handles.

From: TGbow
30-Nov-21
Well, we survived LBJ, Nixon, Carter, The Bushes, Obama, hopefully we will survive Biden. Democrats n Republicans..and we still end up with big government..maybe more people will wake up and get tired of the political machine on Capital Hill

From: DanaC
01-Dec-21
""Democrats n Republicans..and we still end up with big government..""

The distinction between the two parties used to be the emphasis on government size/spending/jurisdiction. Nowadays both parties want to protect their own wealth while spending more on their pet causes.

Neither side cares about reducing spending, or minimizing government intrusion into private lives.

The only time the GOP even pretends to be _fiscally_ conservative is when Democrats propose to spend more $$. Then they clamor for a bigger slice of the pie. The Democrats claim to have different priorities but don't want to talk about killing programs that put money in their districts - and you can believe _that_ gravy gets spread far and wide. The biggest, stupidest boondoggle is still 'jobs in my district'.

From: BULELK1
01-Dec-21
I saw a bumper sticker while down hunting elk in Arizona that read

Pence/Chaney 2024.....

I could vote with that on a Rep-side

Good luck, Robb

From: TGbow
01-Dec-21
DanaC, that is a true statement

From: Rocky D
01-Dec-21
It’s easy to see by the comments why we get what we what we deserve.

Obviously, in a country the size of America you are going to have a big government.

The question is are you going to have a government that supports the haves while addressing the have nots needs not wants or are you going to a bigger government that focuses on the have nots wants and desires to live at the expense of the haves.

You could look at it another way. Either you want more government intrusion or you want less government intrusion.

If we do not learn to simplify the complexities of politics the we are going be like blades of grass blowing with the wind in every direction.

For me it’s pretty simple what issues that I want the government’s focus to be on.

Defense

Economy

1st Amendment

2nd Amendment

Liberty

Religious freedom

Sorry, no snowflake issues please!

When I use these parameters it’s an easy decision on the platform that I will support. Until the left gets back to reality it’s not even a matter of who is on the ticket!

As you can see with Biden and Harris the left is already thinking the same way!

01-Dec-21
I would get a phone book from a heartland state in a rural area. And throw darts at it for names. Or, Pretty much anyone who isn’t a professional, greasy politician already.

From: TGbow
01-Dec-21
The best thing the gov could ever do for us is to get out of the way. Yes, we have to have taxes, laws, ect but not to the extreme we have today.

Lot of people have bought the lie that big government makes things better but the opposite is true. Both parties are guilty

From: Woods Walker
01-Dec-21
Yes....because when it comes down to it, career POLITICIANS are the LEAST capable people of running ANYTHING!

When will we wake up??? It'd better be soon.....DAMN soon!

From: Rocky D
01-Dec-21
“ Both parties are guilty”

TG, that’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t statement. The ambiguity makes it like it doesn’t matter which group that gets your vote!

Now we know that is not case at all! Elections have consequences so comments like I think, I feel, and we can do better are all indecisive actions. It’s like going up to a girl at dance and asking her if she would like to dance instead of just saying let’s dance!

If we don’t know exactly what we want then we are going to get this shotgun approach on Election Day!

From: DanaC
01-Dec-21
Rocky, wadr, the Bill of Rights isn't a buffet - you support *all* rights or you lose them all.

From: DanaC
01-Dec-21
"career POLITICIANS are the LEAST capable people of running ANYTHING! "

Lots of things don't *need* to be 'run' - at last not by politicians at any level. Remember Thoreau? "That government is best which governs least" ?

From: Rocky D
01-Dec-21
DanaC, the left doesn’t support all of them! There is a reason that there is a number 1and 2! Those are my priorities, you can pick yours and vote likewise.

As far as I am concerned you are part of the problem based on your previous comments on other threads! In times of chaos we need defined thought processes to ensure that logic and a rational mental state has been used versus of an emotional irrational thought process!

I like to use OODA, observe, orient, decide, and act! It’s also referred as the Boyd’s cycle or loop.

I don’t want to hear bullish!te like that which spews out of AOC’s and Bernie’s pie holes!

From: Rocky D
01-Dec-21

From: Rocky D
01-Dec-21
Nash, right now there looking for whoever can win the popularity contest and all they have are turds.

There is no logical migration of a politician based on merit that leads to the presidency! Especially, when you throw names like Schiff, Nadler, and now Harris.

OMG, OMG, we then throw names like AOC and Candace Owens? Are we saying that we have to conform to the left’s expectation!

Why is the RIGHT always looking for the left’s acceptance?

The conservatives seem to take on a defeatist attitude while the left is going rogue and acting as revolutionaries!

From: Hackbow
01-Dec-21
I'm in the DeSantis/Scott camp early. I think they are both as clean as possible and ultimately, when style reigns over substance with most sheeple voters, that makes them electable.

Would love to see a Trump second term or Cruz as president. Both are swamp disrupters, don't worry about too many peoples' feelings and are truly policy driven. Neither is a warm cuddly political animal that the masses have grown to expect as their benevolent overseer, so the delicate sensibilities of moderates and pussified Goldwater/Bushies won't allow them to support such coarseness.

Unfortunately, we will likely only have options to slow the decline rather than tear down and rebuild. The rejection of Trump has proven that the majority prefer the lack of obligation due to weakness rather than the responsibilities self determination.

From: Woods Walker
01-Dec-21
"Nash, right now there looking for whoever can win the popularity contest and all they have are turds."

You got it! They should change the name of the DC "Swamp", to the "Septic Tank"!

From: bigswivle
01-Dec-21
Haley/Crenshaw

From: SBH
01-Dec-21
JOCKO!!

From: DanaC
02-Dec-21

DanaC's embedded Photo
DanaC's embedded Photo
This is funny I don't care how you vote ;-)

From: Shaft2Long
02-Dec-21
Pence/Cheney?

As in Luz Cheney? The one who’s been siding with Dems all over the so called “insurrection? That Cheney with Pence? You must really like Biden. That’s a no win situation for the Reds.

From: Will
02-Dec-21
I just wanna see what happens...

Ill take my unaffiliated self to the poll's in 24 and vote for Liz Cheyney or Adam Kinzinger. I disagree with many policy positions they have, heck, Cheyney voted for (with, is perhaps a better description) more of Trumps stuff than any other rep.

But, they are willing to acknowledge reality and despite that turning them into party outcasts, they stick to reality. That's a rare human in modern politics regardless of party. So, despite my not agreeing with many of their positions, as rational, reasonable human beings... solid choice.

From: JL
02-Dec-21
^......."But, they are willing to acknowledge reality and despite that turning them into party outcasts, they stick to reality."

Define their reality?

On the flip side.....if you like party outcasts....you should also like Manchin and Senema too??

From: keepemsharp
02-Dec-21
We have had forty six presidents, only ONE has chosen to stay in town after leaving office, Why.

From: KSflatlander
02-Dec-21
Will X2

From: DanaC
02-Dec-21
"We have had forty six presidents, only ONE has chosen to stay in town after leaving office, Why. "

Would that be John Quincy Adams? ;-)

From: TGbow
02-Dec-21
Yep, big government, and the slaughter of innocent babies is definitely REAL LIFE in the USA

From: Will
03-Dec-21
Reality. Things that can be verifiably proven. For example, election fraud has been repeatedly PROVEN in court to be massive BS, but a certain former president who fairly lost an election cant handle losing, thus continues to peddle and have his cronies peddle BS on said subject. His/their story telling is not reality - Cheyney and Kinzinger both recognize that and thus people who swore and oath to the former president who fairly lost an election, and not an oath to the United States of America seem to have lost that fact, thus are punishing people who speak about reality. They may very well be voted out given the climate - Kinzinger is stepping out I believe. But given they are capable of operating in reality, and can sustain that despite massive pressure from the crowd... Yep, if I have to vote R, I'd do it for them. They appear to be, despite my differences with them on several policy fronts, decent human beings. I like decent humans, so I'd go for them... If they ran.

I'm not trying to be a dink here, though I'm sure it comes off that way.

From: Rocky D
03-Dec-21
We need leaders and they don’t always come as you like them!

This is just like Mac Jones at quarterback. If experts opinions actually meant that much he would have been Taken in the top 5.

Dwayne Haskins should not have even been drafted and if if it was up to Urban Meyer joe Burroughs would have not ever started a game as a Buckeye!

Picking presidents is probably a lot more difficult than quarterbacks but nice would be my overriding prerequisite!

From: JL
04-Dec-21

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Not a Prez thing here....but I just aw LTC Allan West has filed to run for Gov of Texas. I like that guy.....he is well verse on may subjects and a very good speaker. Too bad he is not running for Gov of Michigan!

From: timex
04-Dec-21

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From: timex
04-Dec-21
Ted Cruz strikes me as a no bs get it done kinda guy.

From: JL
05-Dec-21
Wow! I didn't know Ted hunted. I can work with him.....

From: DanaC
05-Dec-21
Pity you didn't nominate and support Cruz back in 2016. Not a favorite of mine but better than what we had to choose from.

From: timex
05-Dec-21
I could be wrong but even as screwed up as this country currently is myself personally think those whom believe Trump has a chance are delusional......

From: Rocky D
05-Dec-21
The people that don’t want to give Trump a chance are the delusional people.

All he did was excel under adverse scrutiny based solely on democratic character assassination based on absolute falsehoods!

Any Democrat should be ashamed of their party for misleading the American people!

Any republican who allowed this to shape your perception of Trump should go read the Republican platform to ensure they know why they are voting Republican.

If you base your vote for president on on popularity then I feel sorry for you for having a brain and not using it!

From: JL
05-Dec-21
Dana....speaking for myself....I did vote for Cruz in 2016. But at the end of the day, we were left with three choices.....Trump, Hillary or don't vote. The last two weren't options. Prez Trump turned out to do much of what he said he would do and fixed the country from the Obama/Biden years. IMO...Prez Trump getting kicked off twitter and FB was probably a good thing for him. Plus....my golden egg was who I wanted to pick the next SCOTUS Justices....Trump or Hil? Like last time, this time around I'll wait to see who else is running before jumping on any bandwagons.....but I can live with Trump again. Can you imagine a pantsuit Prez Hillary or Prez Kamala cackling while doing press interviews??

05-Dec-21
From that list DeSantis or Cruz. But i think we are going to see others emerge. Absolutely no way to Christie or Pence. I dont think Trump will run. If Candace runs she would get my vote. If Trump runs i could see a Trump Owens ticket....

From: JL
05-Dec-21
David....what didn't you like about VP Pence? X2 on Christie.

05-Dec-21
John, i think Pence is part of the swamp. I feel like he did not do enough to sniff out the voter fraud and did what the swamp told him to do and certify the election without looking at the smoking guns. When the reasonable person sees what happened in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Arizona to name a few, its obvious what happened here. I saw votes pulled out after hours, observers shut out and a host of other improprieties where people should have gone to jail but the corruption was swept under the rug. And then there are those who will condone it or say it had no affect on the outcome. Pathetic human beings.....

From: JL
05-Dec-21
David....I too like many was bummed about the election overall. WRT VP Pence.....I tried to take out the emotion and look at the required logic. As I understand it, the Office of the VP is required by the Constitution to count all the electoral votes and certify the election. He was certifying his and Trump's loss....a very tough pill to swallow. As I see it, although not the outcome many Americans wanted at the time, and now a clear majority wanted, he did his Constitutional job as the VP by certifying the election. Like in the military, if you're required to do a job...you do it. In that context....I don't have any problems with him. If/when Biden and Harris loose in 2024...I expect her to certify her and Biden's loss too.

Pence was very loyal to Prez Trump and by all appearances....did a real good job as the Gov of Indiana and as VP. He made Kamala look like a cackling idiot she is in the VP debates. Will he even run...who knows. He has some books coming out in the future so we'll see what he has to say.

From: DanaC
05-Dec-21
Pence was ultimately loyal to the Constitution, and not to Trump, and was and is still being pilloried for it. Its the only thing of note aI ever saw from him, and while commendable hardly qualifies him for the Oval Office.

Trump doesn't give a shit about loyalty to anyone but himself and that is why he is utterly unqualified for the Oval Office.

As long as the GOP remains a subsidiary of Trump Inc. *they* are not qualified for the Oval Office. (And please spare us the chorus of 'but, but, but Biden!!!" He's a hack, we get it. But imo the lesser of evils and that's what both parties are 'offering' us these days. "Well, he's better than the other guy!" If only the Libertarian Party would put up a *good* candidate...)

From: DanaC
05-Dec-21
trublu, both choices sucked. But Trump was and remains a self-centered child. I make no apologies for preferring a hack to a whack.

From: timex
05-Dec-21
I voted for Trump and will admit both votes were not necessarily for Trump but against the other opponents. I learned to admire his ideology but the endless revolving door of cabnit appointees & nonsense was ridiculous. Probably the one thing that impressed upon me more than any other statement made by anyone was the Whitehouse press reporters saying that when trumps social media accounts were shut down it was the first good night's sleep they'd had since his inauguration. Everyone wants to blame the press & the dems & discredit all the (mean) tweets. But the fact is he brought it upon himself. I truly believe he really liked all the attention. Let me put it in a country boy's perspective. If the media was the hornets nest & tweets were rocks the man REALLY REALLY REALLY liked getting stung !!! In my lifetime I've only thrown a rock at a hornets nest one time !!! The man has great ideology but the reality TV show host bs that came along with it was just too much for folks to stomach any longer. I don't think he stands a chance at reelection.

From: JL
05-Dec-21
Well....lets try a different angle. Hypothetically speaking.....Biden, Harris, Trump, Pence......who is the lessor of evils in those choices in 2024?

From: TGbow
05-Dec-21
I voted for Trump after voting independent since 2004.

One thing is for sure these leftist and Neocon politicians are bent on total control.

I wish people would quit referring to these leftist as "Liberals"...they are not Liberals they are Leftist/Marxist. Classical Liberals are more like Libertarians. Our state legislators voted 2 yrs ago whether to raise the gas tax in our state...5 Republicans and 1 Democrat voted against it. So much for our so called conservatives in our state capital. I wish more Libertarians would gey elected!

05-Dec-21
I have the least policy differences with Trump. Biden and Harris are of course out. Trump has plenty of personality faults but the reality is it will take a Trump or a Trump-like candidate to win. I wish a nice, polite, articulate person would get the nod but thats not where we are.

Pence is better on the character, demeanor, "act presidential" factor but if its not fuel for getting the right policy through, its wasted. I don't see him fighting hard enough to undo the damage.

05-Dec-21

From: JL
05-Dec-21
Glunt...that is a fair assessment....

From: Grasshopper
05-Dec-21
Rand Paul. Fauci can finally go to prison.

05-Dec-21
Lol 10 4 on Rand Paul. When it comes to grillong Fauci, im not sure who i like better. Paul or that senator from Ohio?

From: Jaquomo
05-Dec-21
I'm right there with timex. I liked most of Trump's policies but he is so caustic and so stuck on the 2020 election that he will never get enough independent vote to win, no matter who the Dem candidate is.

From: DanaC
06-Dec-21

" Hypothetically speaking.....Biden, Harris, Trump, Pence......who is the lessor of evils in those choices in 2024? "

Pence or Biden. Harris a distant third.

From: Rocky D
06-Dec-21
“ I liked most of Trump's policies but he is so caustic and so stuck on the 2020 election that he will never get enough independent vote to win, no matter who the Dem candidate is.”

Independents may be the most confused group in the country and sadly control the outcome.

From: TGbow
06-Dec-21
I would vote for Rand Paul

From: DanaC
06-Dec-21
" Independents may be the most confused group in the country and sadly control the outcome. "

I feel the same way about partisans. People who can't see past the 'D' or the 'R' do too much damage on either side. I prefer issues over 'party loyalty' and neither major party does much more than pay lip service to issues. Then they tax and spend more, and make dam' sure to get their cut.

From: Rocky D
06-Dec-21
DanaC, I would gladly be partisan if the Dems offered solutions that aligned with a Republic and didn’t focus on IDENTITY politics!

“ Then they tax and spend more, and make dam' sure to get their cut”

Exactly who is they? This statement is ambiguous and mostly conjecture that actually adds nothing to the conversation!

All politicians seem to be do very well financially. Especially, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, Feinstein, Gore, and the Clintons.

Most of these had little going in but lots coming out. Even though several paybacks came after exiting office. One example is the $ 25M that China donated to Bill Clinton in speaking fees.

So give me some good reasons that should shift me to be more bipartisan and vote Democrat!

Oh by the way, I am not to scared or to driven to be as an all knowing intellectual to tell you that until the Dems change their platform that I will continue to have Rs in front of who Gets my vote!

From: timex
06-Dec-21
Tgbow....I would to he seams very well spoken & level headed

From: Rocky D
06-Dec-21
Rand Paul has some serious ideological issues when it comes to national security.

He may carry Kentucky and New Hampshire on his own and maybe four five states that will vote for anything that has an R in front of it but beyond that I doubt it!

P.S. DanaC, of the Democrats and Republicans which group do you think has the largest group of partisan voters.

I will wager that the Dems dominate the partisan count even though the elitist want to be viewed as free thinkers. All those little Silicon Valley nerds are on a robo vote algorithm.

From: DanaC
06-Dec-21
Rocky, the *only* dem I vote -for- is my state senator. (She's pro hunter.) Unfortunately the gop in Mass is a phantom, they have nobody who can beat Neal or Warren or even that idiot Markey. But the gop needs to pull its head out of Trump's ass before I'll support their potus candidate.

From: JL
06-Dec-21

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"I prefer issues over 'party loyalty' and neither major party does much more than pay lip service to issues. Then they tax and spend more, and make dam' sure to get their cut."

Dana......aside from some of his dopey tweeties.....have you seen the list of things Prez Trump and his Admin did for the country in four years? This was with a left-wing, hostile, dishonest media to boot. When you do a search, you will find some media outlets who do their own "fact-check" on the Trump accomplishment list. I looked at them first and then looked at the Trump list. What I found was these media "fact-checkers" cherry picked things and claimed something failed when in reality it worked as time was given for the policy to work. USA Today and Business Insider did this. We know some of their "fact checks" were wrong because we have the luxury of looking back at history. This is why there needs to be honest fact-checkers of the dishonest media fact-checkers.

From: Rocky D
06-Dec-21
“ But the gop needs to pull its head out of Trump's ass before I'll support their potus candidate.”

DanaC, I would take any ass over a democratic ass.

How are we operating now?

From: TGbow
06-Dec-21
Most Libertarians are not anti war..they just believe we shouldn't be policing the whole world. If you do fight a war...fight it to win...if there is just cause of an immediate threat. JFK understood why we shouldn't get involved in southeast Asia and he was not anti war.

From: Rocky D
06-Dec-21
TG, you can’t wait until they come here….

From: DanaC
06-Dec-21
Actually, we *should* 'wait until they come here', then all the militia can have a field day.

From: DanaC
06-Dec-21
Meanwhile, Pence is visiting NH this week

From: Drnaln
07-Dec-21
Stacey Abrams.....Pretty unbelievable her name would ever come up for consideration to be President of the United States! Says how crazy things are right now!

From: Rocky D
07-Dec-21
Do not discount Michelle O, qualifications don’t matter with the Dems and they check character at the door.

09-Dec-21
Keep your eye on down ticket races. More than a few pretty left folks suddenly showing up as Republican candidates.

From: JL
09-Dec-21
I can't see Moochele or Abrams ever winning. Of course I never thought Biden would win either. The words Democrat, Liberal, Socialist, Progressive and Media are words that stoke negative vibes these days. I'd guess some pollster somewhere has tested those words with likely voters or focus groups.

From: spike78
09-Dec-21
Wtf is wrong with Harris and all that laughing? Seriously wtf.

From: JL
09-Dec-21
Is she teeing up to run in 2024??

From: JL
09-Dec-21
It takes the cake when she starts sobbing reading her 2016 Prez acceptance speech. If she is trying to play the sympathy card for a 2024 run.....it ain't working. She looked phony doing it. She claimed she isn't running for anything, but she said the same thing in 2014/2015.

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