Monopoly - Who owns the world?
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Contributors to this thread:
Matt-6 08-Jan-22
M.Pauls 08-Jan-22
Bou'bound 08-Jan-22
2Wild Bill 08-Jan-22
2Wild Bill 08-Jan-22
M.Pauls 08-Jan-22
Matt-6 08-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 08-Jan-22
2Wild Bill 08-Jan-22
M.Pauls 08-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 08-Jan-22
Matt-6 08-Jan-22
bigeasygator 08-Jan-22
txhunter58 08-Jan-22
orionsbrother 08-Jan-22
drycreek 08-Jan-22
70lbDraw 08-Jan-22
Matt-6 08-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 08-Jan-22
Matt-6 08-Jan-22
Matt-6 08-Jan-22
2Wild Bill 08-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 08-Jan-22
Matt-6 08-Jan-22
Matt-6 08-Jan-22
drycreek 08-Jan-22
HDE 09-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 09-Jan-22
APauls 10-Jan-22
APauls 10-Jan-22
2Wild Bill 10-Jan-22
tradi-doerr 10-Jan-22
scentman 10-Jan-22
APauls 12-Jan-22
LINK 12-Jan-22
txhunter58 12-Jan-22
Bou'bound 14-Jan-22
2Wild Bill 16-Jan-22
APauls 17-Jan-22
2Wild Bill 17-Jan-22
Mike Ukrainetz 17-Jan-22
Mike Ukrainetz 17-Jan-22
Mike Ukrainetz 17-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 18-Jan-22
bigeasygator 18-Jan-22
M.Pauls 18-Jan-22
WYOelker 18-Jan-22
azelkhntr 18-Jan-22
scentman 18-Jan-22
TEmbry 18-Jan-22
DanaC 19-Jan-22
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-22
bigeasygator 19-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 19-Jan-22
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Jan-22
bigeasygator 19-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 19-Jan-22
azelkhntr 19-Jan-22
From: Matt-6
08-Jan-22

Matt-6's Link
Get your tin foil hats out folks! :-)

From: M.Pauls
08-Jan-22
This is a great video, I watched it a few weeks ago. Its well done it a way that he’s showing you where the info is coming from. Pretty hard to dispute the info. Some of his stuff is left up to opinion, but most of it is just eye opening. I’d encourage anyone from “either side of the political spectrum” to watch it. It gives an idea to just how much power a very small portion of the population has

I disagree with the end message that basically all people are good (besides the elite) and the elites are the evil, and if we can eliminate their power, we have heaven on earth. It’s just anti biblical. But figuring out who actually owns what, is very eye opening.

From: Bou'bound
08-Jan-22
Not one bowhunter in the group I bet.

From: 2Wild Bill
08-Jan-22
"It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." - Patrick Henry

From: 2Wild Bill
08-Jan-22
Matt,

This is an old old message, that is, capitalism breeds greed and corruption and government is needed to step in on behalf of the downtrodden. The answer is a socalist government which will reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator, in areas of life such as financial means, human rights, education and property rights. Just as the commentator in the video steers the information, a singular master planner is at the top of that socialist governmental pyramid.

If you read the Declaration of Independence, you will quickly see that the American founders put the "laws of nature and natures God" at the top of the pyramid and all people "entitled" to be independent in their persons and all of equal station under God. Freedom, which is valued by Americans, comes from God alone and the government was established to protect the rights given to us by God. Self righteous people for as long as time have striven to supplant God and the results are always failure and suffering for people.

From: M.Pauls
08-Jan-22
2WildBill, I didn’t see the message as that. I think it’s just good to see who owns what. I started opening my eyes to that quite a few years ago, and it’s just changed who I support with my money 9 times out of ten. That’s all. Capitalism is a beautiful thing, until it’s not. And socialism is NOT the answer. It’s just that in a world full of very imperfect people, there’s no magic answer. I think at this point, capitalism with the knowledge of who actually owns things in such a “high tech” world is not a bad option. This video helps that. I love the idea of people being able to make a name for themselves, create their own life, their own business, be their own boss, and essentially be able to just “create a life” as they see fit. If we blindly give money to the people who just offer us the cheapest price or the most convenience, what we once saw as just “capitalism,” won’t really exist anymore. The problem with giants in the industry when they get this big, is the insane amount of volume and competitive advantage they have, makes it very hard for anyone to “live the American dream” and compete. NO, government intervention is NOT a the answer.

The scary part is when you realize how few people have the potential to own a huge part of the market share, and they are also the ones funding political campaigns, big media, things like “awareness” projects, etc, it’ll creep towards something that looks a lot more like socialism than capitalism. Of course, this is just my opinion

From: Matt-6
08-Jan-22
Nicely said M.Pauls!

From: Grey Ghost
08-Jan-22
I'm not sure how the video's author concludes that the Gates, Soros, and Clinton foundations are the "most important foundations in the world, that connect all the industries in the world to each other". The Gates foundation is second in total endowments to the Novo Nordisk Foundation in Denmark. The Soros foundation ranks 8th in the world. And the Clinton foundation doesn't even make the top 100.

If you rank non-profits by the revenues they generate each year, Gates is 3rd, Soros is 50th, and, again, Clintons don't make the top 100.

I stopped watching the video at that point because it was clear he's cherry picking his information to suit his narrative.

Matt

From: 2Wild Bill
08-Jan-22
M.Pauls,

The "we"and "us", spoken of at the end of the video, is extending to the viewer a path to Utopia/Eden. Seduction is a measured process.

Who but our Creator has the correct perspective on the world today and the ultimate future of mankind?

More often than not I find that conspiracy theorys discount the hand of God in the world affairs.

From: M.Pauls
08-Jan-22
Bill, I think we see things quite similarly, with maybe some minor differences, which is ok. I guess my take is the establishing of the “one world authority” that revelation speaks of is likely forming in front of our very eyes. How long it all actually takes to refine is anyone’s guess, but it sure seems like it’s happening faster than I originally imagined. While people along the way can be lost from Jesus, and often only partially correct, I do still believe that these people can offer insight into understanding our world, when at this time it’s especially hard to interpret, with a clear organized effort to suppress truth, which were all trying, (and likely failing in areas) to figure out.

It’s comforting to know that as these things play out, they only happen at the mercy of His hand, just like Jesus’ death, all in order to fulfill his perfect plan.

From: Grey Ghost
08-Jan-22

Grey Ghost's Link
OK, I went back and watched the rest of the video. That's an hour of my life that I'll never get back. The link above is a critique of the video that sums up what I was thinking while watching it.

I'm actually surprised a Bowsite member would post a video that supports Marxist concepts. I'm with 2WildBill on this one.

Matt

From: Matt-6
08-Jan-22
GG thinks epstein killed himself, and cnn delivers facts

From: bigeasygator
08-Jan-22
Where’s txhunter to use the “good thread” tool to boot this down the list. This is pure garbage.

From: txhunter58
08-Jan-22
I just have to ask. Is this really what you come on bowsite to discuss? Just because someone brings up an idea that you disagree with, doesn’t mean you have to respond and keep it going. It’s easy to get sucked in , I have been in the past, but I refuse to going forward.

08-Jan-22
Uuuuuummmmm.... Stock certificates are pretty much a thing of the past. If you have a 401k or an IRA or any kind of investment account, your investments show up included in the Vanguard, T Rowe Price, Blackrock etc numbers. It’s a little misleading to present the aggregate of millions of small, medium and large investors as a monolithic block because these investment management companies hold the “electronic shares” in their name.

You can still request paper stock certificates in your name, but it may cost you hundreds of dollars in fees to have them issued and I believe that you might then have to physically return them to the company to sell them.

From: drycreek
08-Jan-22
I have one question. What are you gonna do about it ? I also have the answer. Not a damn thing ! Forget about the crap that you have no control over and live your life. Rember the serenity prayer ? The key phrase is “the wisdom to know the difference “. Go kill something !

From: 70lbDraw
08-Jan-22
“Where’s txhunter to use the “good thread” tool to boot this down the list. This is pure garbage.”…

…Says the union steward of the Bowsite garbage men!!!

From: Matt-6
08-Jan-22
"What are you gonna do about it ?"

1. Homestead - grown your own food and buy local as much as possible 2. Stop believing main stream narratives 3. Get out of debt 4. Build local communities 5. Resist tyrannical lockdowns and mandated medical procedures 6. Speak the truth - call out and shame bad actors 7. Realize corporations are trying to manipulate you so you detect it a mile away

Im sure i could keep going, but there's a few

From: Grey Ghost
08-Jan-22
Yeah, screw those evil free market capitalists. LOL!!

Matt

From: Matt-6
08-Jan-22
Go watch your CNN little fella

From: Matt-6
08-Jan-22
According to Gay Ghost, resisting tyrannical lockdowns is Marxist LOL

From: 2Wild Bill
08-Jan-22
Drycreek,

Since you asked, I'll tell you what I'm doing.

You have to understand that until 1215, the whole world was indeed on a fast track to a one world government. All governments were tyranical and it wasn't till the Magna Carta that a crack formed in the relationship between the head of state and subjects. In 1776 that little crack became a huge rupture in the relationship between one nation of people and their government. The founders of America planted an idea that turned the pyramid of governmental power upside down. WE THE PEOPLE, were stating before the whole world that NOBODY stood between them and God. No king, ruler or church had the authority to governmental rule over them. They won the battle but the contract of unity they had was flawed, so in 1787, they determined that their delegates would forge a new contract which would create another level of government to oversee the union and represent their values of faith, justice and the desire for peacefulness in society. That contract is the American Constitution.

The delegates argued and debated for months at Independence Hall in Philadelphia. You see, they were wary of each other because they all represented the interests of their own state. There was no one nation. So at the end of their convention they were ready to sign off on the document, when George Mason of Virginia stood and asked the entire assembly if they were so naive to believe that a federal government that abused the balance of power would be gracious enough to return it freely of it's own volition? There was no immediate answer as it all sunk in to their disbelief that what they created had no means for a restoration of the balance of power in that case of a tyranical federal government. They were dumbstruck.

Finally, Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts suggested that wording be added to Article V which would allow the people to move their state legislatures to call for a convention of states. The convention would be held when two thirds of the states passed a resolution within their own legislatures to do so. Following the resolution issues agreed upon by the states, the convention would propose amendments to the Constitution, which would be then submitted to all the states for a ratification. When three quarters of the states approved an amendment it then would be added to the Constitution and be the law of the land. There was no debate from any delegates and the vote to add the wording was unanimous.

Today there is a Convention of States Project underway. The issues for the resolution are term limits for federal employees and not just elected offices, fiscal restraints to curb federal spending and measures to eliminate federal overreach of power. Presently fifteen states have already passed the resolution and last year the resolution was active in twenty-six states. Thirty four states are needed to call the convention and thirty eight to ratify any amendments proposed. There are at least three million people who have signed the petition and signers can be found in all fifty states.

The founders did consider the situation America is in today as a possibility, and provided a Constitutional means to make a difference.

I am a volunteer. You CAN stand up for your country and join the work of the founders to return/restore America to original Constitution operation, or you can stand down and just leave the future to chance.

https://conventionofstates.com/

From: Grey Ghost
08-Jan-22
WildBill gets it. My hat is off, Sir.

Matt

From: Matt-6
08-Jan-22
"Yeah, screw those evil free market capitalists. LOL!! Matt"

Is there something I said that makes you think I'm not in favor of free market capitalism?

I think you totally missed the point of the video, and I'm kind of embarrassed for you now.

From: Matt-6
08-Jan-22
The video is pro-freedom, anti-vaccine mandate, anti-lockdown, pro-private property rights, anti-vaccine passport, etc. The people pushing Marxism are literally on the opposite side of all of those issues. Walmart in Amazon open the whole time, Mama Pop Shop closed, if you don't see it at this point if you're just willfully blind

From: drycreek
08-Jan-22
Well, 2Wild Bill take comfort in your belief and I’ll take comfort in mine.

From: HDE
09-Jan-22
A handful of people only have as much power as you allow them to have. Their thug enforcers only have as much authority as you allow them to have. If they truly had power, they wouldn't need thug enforcers to enact their will. They could do it with the snap of their fingers or a menacing stare.

A lot of people don't even really know what capitalism is. Buying and selling businesses isn't capitalism. That happens even in a socialist atmosphere.

Who owns the world? Nobody.

09-Jan-22
God owns it!

From: Grey Ghost
09-Jan-22
cap·i·tal·ism noun: capitalism "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state."

The narrator starts the video by claiming hundreds of millions of people have become impoverished, but he offers no proof. Then he shows a few clips relating to the Covid pandemic, before stating we will all be impoverished soon. But he never explains why or how. Nor does he acknowledge that the world's economy continues to grow, and that poverty levels are far lower now than they were 30 years ago.

He goes on to claim that a small number of "elite" investors somehow control the world's economy and governments, but, again, he never explains how. He fails to mention that most of those people became wealthy by investing in successful companies that rely on free market consumers to make a profit. He claims these investors goal is to impoverish and control the very people that made them wealthy. If they impoverish consumers, the companies they own would become worthless. Don't you see the contradiction in that whole premise?

He ends his silly little video by promising utopia, if we just share his video with everybody. Of course, the people who will benefit from that are the narrator himself, and the YouTube advertisers. So, the narrator is trying to capitalize on free markets, with a decisively anti-free market video. Irony at its finest.

Matt

From: APauls
10-Jan-22
Well YouTube axed the guy already so video is goners.

From: APauls
10-Jan-22
You can watch it on Grey Ghost's link that explains it away. But like anything. Everyone should evaluate both sides of the argument with an open mind. If you find yourself getting frustrated with one side and dismissing it quickly as yourself if you really have an open mind. If you have the time to watch the video, read the critique or counterargument with an open mind as well.

From: 2Wild Bill
10-Jan-22
"if you really have an open mind" An open mind is like an open window, without screens the bugs get in.

From: tradi-doerr
10-Jan-22
X2 2wild bill's reference to the Constitution.

"if you really have an open mind" "An open mind is like an open window, without screens the bugs get in." That's a great statement! Same as "So open minded the brains fell out"

From: scentman
10-Jan-22
Of all late night shows when have you seen a Black host from that network? Fallon, he talks a big game... Kimmel, he even mocks his Hispanic cohost, that is sick racism... Cohort, he had Michelle Obama for his Black contribution.

From: APauls
12-Jan-22
LOL. Why can't you listen to a counterargument regardless of your position? What have you got to lose?

From: LINK
12-Jan-22
Can that same video be found on Rumble? If find it myself but have no idea what it was.

From: txhunter58
12-Jan-22
Bump

From: Bou'bound
14-Jan-22
Ttt

From: 2Wild Bill
16-Jan-22
APauls,

"Why can't you listen to a counterargument regardless of your position?"

Usually people do, until the discount sensor trips, then it becomes pointless to continue listening to a flawed premise. That's what it means to have a screen up on an open mind. The movement of air continues but the bugs are stopped outside, so as not to infiltrate, contaminate or otherwise defile the inside.

From: APauls
17-Jan-22
Sorry that logic doesn't compute. Having a screen implies you're letting the air through. Not even listening to the argument is like shutting the window or door completely. I simply said that in terms of this video if a person spends the over an hour watching/listening to it, it would make sense to allocate yourself 15 minutes to read the counterargument. Not to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist. That's very different than having a filter.

From: 2Wild Bill
17-Jan-22
"Not to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist."

It's on the outside of the screen where it belongs.

17-Jan-22
The fact that YouTube feels the need to delete it makes me want to believe it even more! Why are they afraid of it…

17-Jan-22

Mike Ukrainetz's Link
Have to go to rumble

17-Jan-22
Great video! Well worth the watch to see how the world is run by an elite group of people and how Covid is now their opportunity for a massive transfer of wealth and control of the masses.

18-Jan-22
the video is built on a false premise right out of the gate. he claims many of the worlds largest companies are owned by just a few institutional investors, as if those are individual people. institutional investors are comprised of millions upon millions of individual investors. average people like you and me and the dude next door. take vanguard for an example. the shares in those companies are owned by individuals that invest in vanguard funds. vanguard itself has tens of million individual accounts. that means that just the portion of pepsico for example that is held by vanguard is owned by tens of millions of individual people. same with black rock...same with wellington capital...

From: Grey Ghost
18-Jan-22
From my link earlier.....

The full title is: Monopoly -- Who Owns the World? I cannot begin to tell you how silly this video is. But I am going to try.

"The video is anti-free market to the core. It is the same old sales pitch of the Progressive movement ever since 1900: "Those rich bastards are stealing us blind in the stock market." How "we" lost wealth because of a tiny number of rich people's profits in the stock market was never made clear. It is not made clear in this video, either. Fortunately, the video offers no solution. The Progressives did . . . and still do: more federal regulation.

The video was produced by Tim Gielen. I went to Amazon to see if he has written a book. He has not. I went online to see if he has a website. He does not. He needs one to provide links and footnotes to studies that would prove the outrageous claims that he makes in the video. There is no such website. "Footnotes? I don't need no stinking footnotes!"

For all I know, Tim Gielen is an alias for somebody named Joe Blow . . . except for his accent.

He is on Facebook. He is on Twitter. But he has no website. In short, he is 100% dependent on the people he says are out to conquer the world. How dumb is that strategy? Really, truly dumb.

Before demonstrating the utter incoherence of this documentary, I will quote Murray Rothbard. This is from Man, Economy, and State (1962). Here is what he wrote about monopoly.

Before investigating the theory of monopoly price, we must begin by defining monopoly. Despite the fact that monopoly problems occupy an enormous quantity of economic writings, little or no clarity of definition exists. There is, in fact, enormous vagueness and confusion on the subject. Very few economists have formulated a coherent, meaningful definition of monopoly (p. 661). The narrator at no point defines monopoly. You might imagine that he would, since the video is called Monopoly. This is a tip-off that the video was produced by someone with little understanding of free market economic theory. Yet the video is all about the economy.

THE VIDEO'S CRUCIAL ERROR

The video assumes that ownership of corporate shares indicates control over the economy, meaning control over consumers.

He argues that a handful of investment funds own a large percentage of American shares. This is easy to prove. What is not easy to prove is that ownership of shares conveys control over consumers.

The narrator misunderstands the economic function of the stock market. The stock market lets profit-seeking investors buy and sell shares of ownership of companies.

What is the goal of owners? To make money.

What is the business strategy of making money? Making an economic profit: bringing in more revenue than costs.

Making money requires that businesses serve customers. The shareowners are not trying to control the buyers. They are trying to figure out which companies customers will favor.

The investors' goal is not power. It is money.

This video argues that a handful of large investment funds are seeking power. It does not prove this. It simply tells us that these funds own profitable companies.

Over and over, the narrator uses the word "power." He never uses the word "profit." This is a tip-off. His analysis is not based on economic theory. It is based on some unstated theory of international political power.

SCAREMONGERING WITH STATISTICAL POPPYCOCK

He begins the video with the startling statement that hundreds of millions of people around the world have become impoverished. Then he provides a few brief videos clips related to the coronavirus. He does not explain the connection. He says that we are all going to be impoverished soon. He does not tell us why.

In fact, the world economy has grown in 2021. There was no economic catastrophe due to the lockdowns. Yet in the second half of the video, the narrator ties his theory of the imposition of a New World Order to an economic collapse created by the pandemic.

This video's thesis makes no sense.

The economic fact is this: there has been a more rapid escape from poverty over the last 30 years than at any time in the history of mankind. The United Nations estimated in 1990 that 36% of the world lived in abject poverty. In 2015, the UN estimated that this had fallen to 10%. We can see this illustrated in the marvelous TED talk videos produced by Hans Rosling. Watch his 2007 TED talk. It will amaze you.

The Monopoly video argues without any proof whatsoever that an elite of superrich individuals are attempting to impoverish the masses. If you are familiar with the history of Marxism, you will recognize this argument. It is a variation of Marx's theory of surplus value. It was wrong in 1867, and it is wrong today. Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk refuted it in 1896. You can read it here.

To help immunize yourself against this preposterous argument, consider the following. If the masses become impoverished, the share prices of the companies that sell goods and services to the vast majority of now-impoverished people will fall like a stone. The basis of the wealth of the elite is that they own shares of companies that sell goods and services to billions of people. If these elitists are trying to impoverish the masses, then they are following a self-destructive policy.

The narrator never mentions this. That is because he does not believe in the free market. He does not believe that consumers are in charge. He does not offer a theory of the free market. He just offers accusations that this elitist conspiracy is seeking power

At the very beginning of the video, the narrator misinforms the viewers about a looming economic apocalypse. Why? In order to produce fear. Fear makes viewers more willing to accept the video's unsupported accusation that an elite is attempting to impoverish us all.

Sadly, there is a large market for this kind of harem-scarem nonsense. There always has been. But this guy is trying to sell Marx's analysis to conservatives and libertarians. Incredibly, some are swallowing this thesis. I hate to tell you where I saw positive reports on this preposterous video. It is on a libertarian site that I do not want to embarrass.

To understand the video's many fallacies, I begin with money.

DEFINING MONEY

Ownership of money is widely dispersed. Ludwig von Mises, following Carl Menger, defined money as the most marketable commodity. This definition was the basis of Mises' masterpiece, The Theory of Money and Credit (1912).

Money is what businesses seek.

Businesses want what consumers own: money. They must serve consumers to get rich.

This is the heart of free market economic theory. This goes back to Adam Smith. Deny this analysis, and you thereby deny free market economic theory. The narrator denies it.

He argues that an elite owns most of the world's wealth. This is nothing new. Vilfredo Pareto wrote about this in 1897. He concluded that about 20% of the people in every European nation he studied owned about 80% of the wealth in that country. This is the famous Pareto distribution of 20/80.

The distribution is known as a power law. It goes all the way up. This means that about 20% of the 20%, or 4% of the population, will own about 64% of the wealth (80% of 80%). It also means that 0.8% of the population (20% of 4%) will own about 51% (80% of 64%) of the wealth. Any time that we find a deviation from this distribution, we should look for reasons to explain it. It is not easy to do this, since nobody knows why the initial Pareto distribution exists. It is the great mystery of modern economic theory. There is no agreed-upon explanation.

I recommend this approach. Whenever you find a deviation from the Pareto distribution, look for some kind of government intervention that protects certain owners of capital from the competitive effects of the free market. This is not what the narrator in the video does.

First, however, make sure that the person who asserts the existence of this deviation has detailed statistical evidence supporting his statement. He may just be blowing smoke.

The narrator never offers an economic explanation for this abnormal concentration of wealth. He also does not offer any footnotes to detailed studies that prove that this distribution exists. He just says that it does. He quotes Oxfam, a Leftist organization in Great Britain.

If he blamed specific government policies or central-bank policies for this abnormal distribution of wealth, I would be willing to pay more attention to the details of his argument. But he does not. This means that he blames the free market. It was a free market that let these people accumulate lots of corporate shares. What is the matter with that? There is nothing wrong with it morally. It is not a failure of the market that successful investors accumulate ownership of companies. So, what does he want us to do with his information? Share it, he says. But then what? He never says. He has no program of reform.

Then why produce the video?

"Look, Ma, I'm on YouTube!" So are a lot of crackpots.

I recommend that you follow this rule. "If a video calls attention to a problem, but does not offer a theory of why the problem exists, ignore the video." Here are other rules. "If the video offers a plausible explanation for the problem, what does it offer as a solution? Is the solution consistent with solving the problem? Will the solution make things worse? Who is going to impose the solution? What are his incentives for imposing the solution? Does the solution involve badges and guns? If so, do not join the movement."

SUMMARY

First, this video is anti-free market. It is really warmed-over Marxism.

Second, the video tries to connect the pandemic with a looming economic collapse. But there has been no collapse. The world economy continues to grow.

Third, the video says that there is an elite seeking power. It offers no examples of how the elite attains power by owning stock market mutual funds. It shows that a handful of funds own a high percentage of the shares. Problem: the funds invest in terms of gaining a profit, and the basis of gaining a profit in a free market society is a service to consumers.

Fourth, the video tells us that this elite group of superrich people plans to impose world taxation policies that are going to impoverish those few of us who are not wiped out by the economic collapse created by the pandemic. It does not say why politicians in every nation will legislate such taxes, or why voters will consent. It also does not ask this question: "If the superrich own most of the world, how much money can the rest of the world pay into the governments' tills?" Not much.

Fifth, and most tellingly, the video ends with a series of utopian promises to people who pass along this video. Anytime you see a video that promises world transformation by spreading a video that exposes the elite, you know you are dealing with somebody who believes in salvation by knowledge. Here is his list of promises to those who will share the video: a world with "no poverty, no pollution, diseases, or wars" (59:49). "If we all share this video, we can wake up humanity. Together we can stop corruption, and make a better world" (1:02:46). But he does not tell us exactly how we can do this. We cannot do it by sitting around a campfire and singing "Kum Ba Yah."

Sixth, he offers this hope. This world "is all on the horizon." Why should I believe this? Because Rumi said so. "The wound is the place where the light enters you." (1:00:26) And who is Rumi? He was a 13th-century Persian Sufi mystic. Somehow, I am not persuaded.

The video ends with a website: www.StopWorldControl.com. This site's home page features this video. But the site is limited strictly to discussions of the pandemic and government controls related to the pandemic. There is no mention of transforming humanity, saving the world, or anything else of a utopian nature.

CONCLUSION

This low-budget video is a good example of scaremongering, lousy statistics, anti-free market analysis, confusion of wealth and power, and utopian visions of world transformation (the NWO bad guys vs. mystics). It all hinges, in the name of anti-conspiracy, on one more conspiracy theory. It features the usual suspects: George Soros, Klaus Schwab, and Bill Gates.

The basic sales pitch is this: the free market is impotent. Consumers are impotent. An elite invested their money, which has made them rich, and somehow, in ways not explained, they have been able to leverage their wealth through investing in the free market into a total international system of universal despotism in which the elite will become the owners of the wealth of the whole world.

But if the statistics are accurate, they already own the world. That's the subtitle of the video: Who Owns the World? Why are they wasting time and money to get what they already have? Duh.

What will be the agency of enforcement of this universal despotism? The ultimate impotent bureaucracy: the United Nations.

The tiny American conservative movement bought into this theory back in the mid-1950's. They actually believed that the United Nations had meaningful power. It never did. The UN is a place where senior-level bureaucrats in Third World countries can live in New York City high on the hog, and be able to avoid paying parking tickets because they have diplomatic immunity. They love it. Their wives love it. It drives the NYPD nuts.

This video is one more example of H. L. Mencken's observation: Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American public."

Matt

From: bigeasygator
18-Jan-22
1,000,000% correct, Matt.

From: M.Pauls
18-Jan-22
The video isn't perfect, and I also don't agree with "everything" in the video. I don't need to, in order to pull whatever information I find valuable, out of the video for myself personally. But to suggest that he's a "youtube wanna be" because all he does his detail what he sees as a problem without offering any solution, but then also claim that he's full on marxist and sees the only solution as government intervention, is just a little contradictory. There's also a lot of "he believes" statements in that article, which are essentially making the exact type of statements that he's calling "garbage." There are some good points in the article, and just like the video, I don't need to throw it all out just because there's some things I don't agree with, but overall, I didn't find the counter argument all the great. I guess agree to disagree on many of the points.

I would say I am about as freedom loving as they get, used to refer to myself as right leaning, but think that libertarian likely better sums myself up at this point. Especially with encroaching government intervention, and how (in my opinion) horribly they seem to mess anything up that they get involved in. Rather than calling for more intervention, I had a different take away from the video. For those that don't like to be under massive amounts of control or government rule, there may be a larger invisible elephant in the room than the government. Perhaps an animal that has substantial control over the government themselves, that we (or I) "fear" in the first place, through things like campaign funding etc. The beauty of the free market is that at this point we can still choose to not feed that animal, but it is at a point where it will take strategic thinking in order to do so as the animal has already gotten so big. That's a little more "pro freedom" then marxist, but funny how different people can see things so differently

From: WYOelker
18-Jan-22
I tried and it showed the video was no longer available???

From: azelkhntr
18-Jan-22

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They tell us exactly what they plan to do and people still won't believe them.

From: scentman
18-Jan-22
The eighties were chock full of movies out of Hollywood that portrayed scenarios of a corrupt government and society... to our dismay there are no Kurt Russell's, or Stalones to save the country.

From: TEmbry
18-Jan-22
Do investment conglomerate boards have too much market share/control? Sure we can debate that.

Do these same conglomerates represent the wealth of a very elite group? Not necessarily. Literally millions of investors are lumped into these ownership stats. Hell even I am included in these stats and I can assure you I’m not part of a world domination plot, nor am I wealthy.

This is simply someone who doesn’t fully understand how investing and the stock market works, or it’s someone who is intentionally putting a misleading spin on something to imply a point that isn’t necessarily true. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it’s the former and not the latter.

From: DanaC
19-Jan-22

DanaC's Link
Complete text of Klaus Schwab's book

19-Jan-22
Great post azelkhntr! And Schwab wouldn’t be trying to do this through giant corporations who have manipulated the free market system would he? Along with help from the world’s elites taking advantage of Covid to crush the common man? Guess not…

From: bigeasygator
19-Jan-22
They tell us exactly what they plan to do and people still won't believe them.

That is not an excerpt from the book and this thread is still garbage.

From: Grey Ghost
19-Jan-22
Yep, we can always count on azelkhntr to post utter nonsense and lies.

Matt

19-Jan-22
So Grey Ghost, that isn’t an excerpt from his book?

From: bigeasygator
19-Jan-22
No, it's not.

And agree with GG, this whole concept shows a fundamental lack of knowledge on what institutional investors are, where they get their money, and what their motivations are. It's anti-capitalistic garbage.

19-Jan-22

Ricky The Cabel Guy's Link
"So Grey Ghost, that isn’t an excerpt from his book?"

no

From: Grey Ghost
19-Jan-22
"So Grey Ghost, that isn’t an excerpt from his book?"

You shouldn't have to ask me. It took all of about 30 seconds to determine the quote isn't from Klaus Schwab's book.

Matt

From: azelkhntr
19-Jan-22

azelkhntr's Link
Klaus Schwab is an elitist of the top rank. He was the child of avowed NAZI's whose companies supplied the regime with materials and equipment for the war effort and most notably the quest to build the bomb. Tho the quote isn't his, he most assuredly shares the same views. He's the guy I imagine would be the antecedent to the appearance of the Beast. His birthplace was the home of the Eugenicists movement in Germany and he would have been well schooled in such. As GC often said; "Its a big club and you ain't in it."

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