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From: sharpstick
16-Apr-10
Go get em Jake...shoot straight and make sure your shoe laces are tied...

Sharpstick

From: Bake
16-Apr-10
Get 'em Jake!

From: Chip T.
16-Apr-10
Ah that very familiar, "hello Bowsite". Brings back memories of Walter Cronkite reporting. Next hunt we have to haave a dentist go along with him paid by Pat just to keep an eye on Jake. Shoot straight, be safe and have a great hunt!

Chip

16-Apr-10
Stick him good Jake! Thanks for sharing another exciting hunt with us. Have a great hunt!

From: OregonArcher
16-Apr-10
Looking forward to the reports. This is a hunt I want to do soon.

From: fuzzy
16-Apr-10
I hope the final stalk is less "bracing" than his polar bear encounter...... ;-")

16-Apr-10
whales, bears, goats and deer! all in one day! fantastic!

From: Bou'bound
16-Apr-10
this is so cool and when you listen to it you see the northern lights on the screen. great touch!

From: bohuntr
16-Apr-10
Very cool, thanks for doing this again Jake and Pat!!!

From: AZStickman
16-Apr-10
Good Luck Jake!!..... Your live hunts are one of my favorite Bowsite features..... Terry

From: ORARCHER
16-Apr-10
GOOD LUCK !!!!!!! Keep that golden horse shoe in your back pocket and kill a biggun !!

From: Katahdin
16-Apr-10
Not a Dentist but an Orthodontist. With plenty of tools and wire.

From: Hawkeye
16-Apr-10
Go get em Jake.Looking forward to following along on your quest!

From: Clutch
16-Apr-10
Jake-- Remember (DOUBLE LUNG)--Best of Luck

From: Gator
16-Apr-10
We'll likely be hearing about "Freezeout Knob" one of Tom's favorte look outs. Jake, I wish you the same luck as I had back in '89. Tom know how to get it done. He's a serious but cool dude when under pressure.

16-Apr-10
Best of luck, Jake. Have fun.

From: Bowboy
16-Apr-10
Good luck and find a big one!

From: W8N4RUT
16-Apr-10
you can do it Jake!! This is gonna be GREAT!

16-Apr-10
Good luck and go shoot a big boar!!!!

From: Genesis
16-Apr-10
Shoot the Brownie with Nuts.....

From: Bigdan
16-Apr-10
Jake who!

From: HuntinHabit
16-Apr-10
Go get em Jake!! Can't wait to see what happens...

From: Bigpizzaman
16-Apr-10
Can tell how he's worn out, first day in camp is always like that, he'll be fine tommorrow! 9 footer too small? My man is going LARGE! Best of luck buddy!

From: jimbow
17-Apr-10
Thanks for getting that Mathews bow out of my face and good luck mate.

From: Elkninja
17-Apr-10
Hope Jake connects. we are expecting more stormy weather up here, I hope they get a break there in Kodiak.

Good Luck Tomorrow!

From: elknuts2
17-Apr-10
Wow, that is one of the neatest places a guy can hunt. I had the good fortune with hunt Deadman Bay in 1985, and that's one of the best hunts I've ever had. Tom Kirstein wasn't running those brown bear hunts then, but I've hunted with Tom before and he's a great guide, so I think Jake's on a dream hunt, great area and a great guide.

From: Bou'bound
17-Apr-10
no post yesterday he must be skinning

17-Apr-10
Good luck Jake! Thanks for taking the time to keep us posted. Look forward to the pics!

From: Owl
17-Apr-10
Better luck with the bears than with the orthodontia. ;) I always enjoy the semi-live audio.

17-Apr-10
OK, I'm watching and reading....shoot a MONSTER!

From: Jaeger63
17-Apr-10
Already spotted a nine footer and determined to be too small. Wow!!! I guess when your hunting in the land of the giants you have to keep perspective! I'm tuning in everyday Jake and living vicariously thru you bro!

From: Zbone
17-Apr-10
Didn’t realize bears were out of their dens this early in Alaska.

Best of luck to ya Jake.

From: Bigdan
17-Apr-10
Jake who!

From: Deacon Dave
17-Apr-10
Jake Ensign

From: city hunter
18-Apr-10
great area great guide should be a great hunt, How many bowkills has Tom taken , Is this a 10 or 15 day hunt ,,

From: Scott Dulin
18-Apr-10
city hunter, It is a 15 day hunt, but you are at camp for a total of 18 days. Tom told me how many bowkills he has taken, it was quite a few. He said alot of guys start with a bow and after a few of days switch to a gun when they see a big one right out of bow range.

From: midwest
18-Apr-10
Better to be stuck in a cabin rather than a dinky tent through the bad weather! Good luck, Jake! Thanks for taking us along.

From: Bigdan
18-Apr-10
I don't think this jake guy will pick up a gun.

From: Booner
18-Apr-10
I just listened to the reports. All i can say is the man is living a dream ! Booner

From: cassman
18-Apr-10
Do you know that this is Jake's 4th hunt for Brown bears? I wish he had taken the horseshoe. Best of luck Jake, this is your year.

From: CDogger
18-Apr-10
Guys, a 9 footer is considered a small boar in Tom's camp. Jake will likely see several 10' plus bears during the course of this hunt. In fact, he may see some that push an honest 10'6". The genetics are there for large bodies and big melon's. It is a very real possibility that Jake could shoot a top 10 P&Y head. I know first hand that Tom wants to get his guys on huge bears.

From: Bigpizzaman
19-Apr-10
More power to Jake, as those of you know who have done a Brown Bear hunt,the days are extremly long. You have 14+ hours of daylight and you try to hit both mornings and evenings when bears are moving the most. Not to mention travel time to and from hunting areas. Keeping aware and focused at all times, after many days of this, can be difficult. But knowing Jake he will get it done! Looking forward to pics.

From: badlander
19-Apr-10
I am glad I am not a brown bear up around Deadman's Bay for about the next 2 weeks!

Good Luck Jake!!

From: OFFHNTN
19-Apr-10
GOOD LUCK JAKE! Can't wait to hear the details! I stayed in the govt cabin on deadmans bay at the end of November last year on a blacktail hunt and we saw 3 bears. One was a giant.........I hope you get him!

OFFHNTN

From: BuckSlayer
19-Apr-10
Good luck Jake!

From: Bigdan
19-Apr-10
Jake sounds more like a weather man than a Bowhunter.

From: Bx3
19-Apr-10
Best of luck Jake! Man, that would be a great hunt to be a part of!

From: city hunter
20-Apr-10
weather can be a bowhunters friend or enemy , I hope u have a good book or two ,, soon the weather front will move out and the bears will show up , its just a chess game , best of luck ..

From: Gator
20-Apr-10
You bet weather can be hugh factor. While I was there, Tom said he couldn't remember so many straight days of clear skies. The eight days we hunted,only one afternoon did we have some light rain.

Jake will get his brownie this time.

20-Apr-10
Wish I could be there "in-camp" dentist.

From: Owl
21-Apr-10
"Jake will get his brownie this time."

-I thought Jake already had a brown bear?? Int. Grizz perhaps...

From: BB
21-Apr-10
Keep at it Jake and get a big one.

I hope you are having a great bowhunt. Take some good photos. BB

From: Genesis
21-Apr-10
"Wish I could be there "in-camp" dentist."

Ha! I can hear it now...".Jake,your gonna be fine but I'll check you after my morning hunt.....Jake,your gonna be fine,I'll check you after my evening hunt....seriously."

Day 2

"Jake,you need to take these antibiotics before I do anything,will check on you after tomorrow's hunt."

Day 3

"Jake,studies are telling us to not intervene too quickly and give the antibiotics plenty of time.I'm a really smart dentist and the cutting edge decision is to give it a few more days

Day 6

"Jake,I've got some time at lunch in between hunts but I know you shoot your bow then so it wil be better at dinner tonight."

"Jake,you probablly shouldn't have drunk that glass of milk..let's give the drugs another day.No milk,okay?

Day 7 "Jake,I hit one a little back we will give it tonight and get on it first thing in the morning.We should find it first light and I can get on that bad mouth your suffering with."

Day 8

Hide is really fleshy looks like I'll be on him all day.....

Day 9

"Jake,It's so sweet to get to fly home early with 2 great bears between us.The bush plane is a little bumpy but open your mouth and say aaahhhhhh."

It's nice having professional connections! :)

21-Apr-10
Steve, That's exactly how I would handle it! Hilarious!! Hope their teeth aren't distracting them on their hunt for big brownies. I remember reading where Fred Bear popped a crown off during an arctic hunt. He had put his glove up to his mouth and it froze to a crown of his. When he put his hand down, the crown come off frozen to the glove. Hope the fact that there is no report means good things.

From: bigpizzaman
21-Apr-10
Hope he's busy fleshing a hide!!!

From: Tom inPA
21-Apr-10
Now where did I put that golden object?

From: elknuts2
21-Apr-10
He's enjoying long days, but the weather at this time of year can be pretty nasty there. When I hunted up there, we only had 2 or 3 days of nice weather and the rest of the time it rained or snowed, and that was also a mid-April hunt. Also, there is usually still quite a bit of snow. Those big brownie trails in the snow make for some easy spotting, and you usually find a trail in the snow before you see the bear that made it.

Those cabins at the head of Deadman Bay are pretty nice, roomy enough, warm and comfortable. That's a great camp, and there is a ton of sealife to enjoy on that hunt, sea otters, whales, etc. Lots of bird life too, like King Eiders, Old Squaws and Harlequins, stuff most of us never get to see. The only thing that gave me the heebie-jeebies was riding in the open ocean in a zodiac with no life jackets. We took a couple rides out past the end of the bay, and it was eerie to see reefs come up out of the swells outside of where we were driving the zodiac. Lynn Castle said that as cold as the water was, we'd all die of hypothermia if we went in, so no need to hasten it by floating. That creeped me out, big time.

Kodiak in the spring time is a special place. Deadman Bay is gorgeous country.

From: Elkstuffer
21-Apr-10
Good luck Jake! Be safe.

From: CDogger
21-Apr-10
"The only thing that gave me the heebie-jeebies was riding in the open ocean in a zodiac with no life jackets." What were you worried about?? You had a "float coat", didn't ya???:O)))) Just kiddin....I had the same feeling!

From: Gator
22-Apr-10
Hope he didn't drop his cellphone in one of the many streams you cross while hunting this area.

22-Apr-10
Kinda slow in Deadman Bay area. At least no tooth pain reported.

From: bigpizzaman
22-Apr-10
Hope today is the day! Maybe rename it "DeadBear Bay"!

From: Elkninja
22-Apr-10
help from the weather it is suppose to get sunny Fri and Sat so Friday may be Jake's day for a big one! lets hope they come out! Good Luck Jake!

From: Clutch
22-Apr-10
My prediction is Jake will score on the last day of his hunt on DeadBear Bay

From: AZStickman
23-Apr-10
Jake spotted a bear and let the rifle hunter take it. Must not have been in a stalkable position for him. He's got some class...... Terry

From: Bigpizzaman
23-Apr-10
Yep, seems like us Bowhunters is always backin up them rifle hunters! ;) Or at least getting them tagged out so we can do our thing.

From: CDogger
23-Apr-10
Congrats to John. A 9'9" bear is an awful nice bear. If anyone has ever read the "Last of the Great Brown Bear Men" you may recognize the name Horse Marine Lake. The lake is just to The east of Pinnell and Taulefson's original bear camp at Olga Bay. Lots of history their. Many huge bears killed in that area over the years. Let's hope a 10' plus boar claims that carcus and Jake gets a shot at him. Looking forward to how this plays out. The better news is that now Jake has both guides spotting for him....this could get really good!

From: Gator
23-Apr-10
That is a great book for anyone wanting to learn about the early days of brown bear hunting on Kodiak. Forgot which but either Pinnell or Taulefson had guide license number one.

23-Apr-10
cool!

23-Apr-10

Mark Hockenberry's embedded Photo
Mark Hockenberry's embedded Photo
I tent camped on the beach of Horse Marine Lake in November of 1992 hunting blacktails. What a blast. Thats Deadmann Bay in the background. Been a while since I've seen you Jake, good luck. Mark

From: bigpizzaman
24-Apr-10
Eagle's on the carcass; it's surprising how fast they can pick it clean! Keep after them buddy, all you need is one chance!

From: Forest bows
24-Apr-10
Your a better man than me jake. I shot the first bear I could!

From: Ibow
24-Apr-10
And you got one whale of a bear Forest!

From: Forest bows
25-Apr-10
thank you God

From: cassman
25-Apr-10
I agree with you Forest bows. I shot the first brown bear that I could, but Jake is very particular. He passed up some Brownies on previous hunts. He has a full mount of a huge grizzly and he wants his brown bear to be bigger than his griz. Did you know that the Brown bear and the grizzly are classified as the same bear by Alaska Fish and Game?

From: Hawkeye
25-Apr-10
I have heard that cassman as well. I "think" the brown bear is "ursus arctos" and the grizz is "ursus arctos horribilus?" Kodiak being "ursus arctos mittendorf"? This interested me when I was up there but as a local told me..."They are both pretty dam* big son."

Ha ha

Congrats again Forest..you are the man!

From: city hunter
25-Apr-10
eyad di u hunt the bears also

From: Hawkeye
25-Apr-10
Louis- I did not, but there was a bb hunter in camp when I got back to cordova from goat hunt. Salmon fished and saw lots of tracks. Had option to add on but decided to get back home early.

25-Apr-10
I hope he 'tagged out' on a MOSTER!......

From: Bowboy
26-Apr-10
Maybe the bears are trying to outsmart Jake and ate his satellite while they were out hunting. I would suspect he'll get his opportunity this week some time.

From: city hunter
26-Apr-10
maybe he ran out of dimes ...

26-Apr-10
Probably went to Anchorage to see a Dentist!

27-Apr-10
Could be worried about the spirit of the bear.

From: Tom inPA
27-Apr-10
Now where did I leave that horseshoe?????????

From: Bou'bound
27-Apr-10
THIS JUST IN.................

still no update

From: Chip T.
27-Apr-10
No shot yet but the dental problems are still going strong. Pat- You might want to visit your dentist prior to your deer hunt with Jake this fall:)

From: Clutch
27-Apr-10
Jake WILL make it happen

27-Apr-10
I just heard from another guide / bow hunter who was hunting at the same time as Jake, but on Afognak. He had a pretty slow hunt and his client did not kill a bear. He actually ran into the guy who killed the bear with Jake on Deadman Bay. He is saying the bears are still up pretty high on the mountain and they have not started to move down in numbers yet. I believe Jake still has plenty of time.

From: Mathews Man
27-Apr-10
Jake needs some 1000mg Ibuprofen for those teeth! I had an abscess in an old root canal and I wanted to be like Tom Hanks in Castaway, but then took Ibuprofen and it was much improved until a trip to the Endodontist.

Hope you Connect soon Jake.

From: Bou'bound
29-Apr-10
the message from today was a bit scrambled. sounded like he may have been trying to leave the message while running uphill away from a 10 footer, but it was tough to tell.

From: Waterfowler
29-Apr-10
Its getting down to the wire now. I'm betting on saturday afternoon around 4:30 9'6" boar.

From: Bigpizzaman
29-Apr-10
Love them sat phones!:(

From: Bx3
29-Apr-10
I'll take the under on Saturday and the over on 9'6"... have a feeling.

From: hntnfool
29-Apr-10
I thought he was speaking Russian ;)

From: city hunter
29-Apr-10
can he stay for more days or does this tag run out

From: muskeg
29-Apr-10
You can only be in the field for up to 14 days via State of Alaska rules for the Kodiak Brown Bear hunt.

From: Ibow
29-Apr-10
We're pulling for you Jake!

From: hntnfool
30-Apr-10
Go get-em Jake! Now thats funny Pat, It didn't make sense until I listened to the Jakes report.

Lee

From: Bigpizzaman
30-Apr-10
Ba Bump Ba Ba Bumpa Bumpa! Yep PeeWee alright!

Not to worry buddy, just did the Big Bear Prayer for you, works almost but not quite everytime!

From: Bou'bound
30-Apr-10
this will make for a better story anyway.......late and large.

From: canyonhntr
30-Apr-10
Go get him Jake

From: Florida Mike
30-Apr-10
I know I don't ever want to tangle with an animal that can "self Gratification" with 4" claws!!!

Talk about being tough! I bet a broadhead would bounce off of that beast!

So I guess the next thread will be "would you shoot a Bear during his self gratification or would you wait till he finishes".hehehe, Mike

From: BB
30-Apr-10
Good Luck Jake!

From: Owl
30-Apr-10
Rubbed? I thought that sort of thing grew hair. Oh wait, Jake did say he had furry forelegs. Never mind.

From: Owl
30-Apr-10
Darn shame to venture upon a 10 footer so badly rubbed.

From: Chip T.
30-Apr-10
It's late in the game, bottom of the ninth and 1 out and Jake still has a good attitude going. That's what I like about this kid. Go getum buddy!!!

From: TXHunter
30-Apr-10
We're pulling for you Jake!

From: Bigdan
30-Apr-10
I think the Bear was pulling something too.Its time to get" er" done

From: AZStickman
30-Apr-10
That bears black bear cousin has been teaching him the ways of hunters.... That's how he became a master baiter..... Terry

From: Genesis
30-Apr-10
If you can't have Maw you have to settle for Paw....

From: Chip T.
30-Apr-10
You 3 guys are really delving into your world of humor:)

From: Gator
30-Apr-10
After it's over I'm betting Jake will be glad he didn't take the rubbed one. Shulls are nice but nothing to comapre to a full mounted brown bear.

From: CPAhunter
30-Apr-10
I guess it wasn't just the hide that was rubbed on that bear.

From: Bou'bound
30-Apr-10

Bou'bound's embedded Photo
Bou'bound's embedded Photo
well if he would have opted to shoot it and wanted to mount it doing what it was doing before he killed it at least we have form for the taxidermist to replicate. may save jake a couple of bucks.

30-Apr-10
You guys are too funny!!

From: city hunter
30-Apr-10
a 10ft bald bear is still a 10ft bear ,, tomoro shoot mr baldie ..

From: TXHunter
30-Apr-10
I'm with Louis-I'da had to shoot that joker even if he looked like Kojak!

From: Clutch
30-Apr-10
Remember my prediction---last day MONSTER--- go gettem buddy

From: bowhunter1
30-Apr-10
Come on Jake,i will be on Kodiak in Aug. so i was hoping their would be one less Brown Bear to deal with.BH1

From: Clutch
01-May-10
Kojak the Kodiak---Just send it

From: city hunter
01-May-10
boy was i wrong i thought the area the guide there would have been plenty of chances at browns for jake .

From: Bowboy
01-May-10
I bet he calls in tonight and he has his bear!

From: Zbone
01-May-10
Haven't heard what Jake had to say due to audio and my internet access, but am a little perplexed with muskeg's statement -"You can only be in the field for up to 14 days via State of Alaska rules for the Kodiak Brown Bear hunt.

Could understand if a season is only so many days long - say as 14, but if I saved for a that once in a lifetime type hunt, would not want to be pressured with a time limit. That doesn’t make sense, unless for safety reasons, but if not, sounds like a hairball regulation. Haven’t ever been to Alaska, but from what I gather, days afield can be determined by the weather, which could further be detrimental to a time limited hunt...JMO

Best of luck to you out there Jake.

From: Bou'bound
01-May-10
From the website wtih speical hunt regulations for Kodiak..........

Are there any other special requirements?

Big game hunting regulations are published each year by the Alaska Department of Fish & Game and are available for free from ADF&G offices, license vendors, and at http://www.hunt.alaska.gov. Here are a few of the restrictions on Kodiak bear hunters:

Obtain permits in person at the ADF&G office in Kodiak prior to entering the field.

Hunt times are restricted to one 15-consecutive day hunting period which is declared when a permit is picked up (registration hunts excluded).

All hunters must check-in and checkout at the Kodiak ADF&G office during normal working hours.

You may NOT hunt or help someone else take brown bear until 3:00 a.m. the day following the day you have flown (excluding regularly scheduled commercial flights).

You may NOT hunt brown bear with the aid or use of a dog.

You may NOT use bait while hunting brown bears.

You may NOT use artificial light, night vision devices, laser sights or radio communication while bear hunting.

You may NOT shoot on, from, or across the driveable surface of any constructed road.

Once a bear is hit by a bullet or arrow, the hunter may not pursue another bear in Game Management Unit 8 for the remainder of the regulatory year.

Hides and skulls of harvested bears must be salvaged, the meat does not.

All brown bears killed in Game Management Unit 8 must be sealed by ADF&G staff in Kodiak before leaving the Island.

From: canyonhntr
02-May-10
Anyone heard if Jake got his bear yet?

Rob, Rocky Mountain Beetle Works

From: Forest bows
02-May-10
when would be his last day?

From: city hunter
02-May-10
its been a few days since we heard from Jake , Shouldnt we be concerned . That sat phone should be working in that area , hope all is ok ..

From: medicinemann
02-May-10
Jake here. The computer at the Kodiak Comfort Inn seems to operate at a very slow speed....but I'll type a full report of the hunt later tonight.

First, Forest....congrats on your bear!!

Second, the weather is still pretty cold in Deadman Bay. Today was the warmest day since I arrived....it briefly hit 40 degrees early in the afternoon. It was still in the 20's this morning.

Third, I am starving. I'm going to go eat.....and then I will type a "journal" of the entire hunt. I am glad that I didn't lose a star for the self-gratification remark!!

More to follow.....

From: Bowboy
02-May-10
Patiently awaiting the story of your brown bear hunt. I'm sure you also have some pictures to go along with your story.

From: Waterfowler
02-May-10
bear no bear? I bet I logged on 20 times today just to check.

From: Jaeger63
02-May-10
This is the closest I've ever followed one of these live hunts on bowsite! I did not miss logging in one day and some days multiple times a day. Patiently awaiting your story Jake!

From: medicinemann
03-May-10
This is going to be a rather lengthy post. Forget photos....at least until I get home.

I believe that the last phone call that was sent was on the evening of the 13th day of my hunt. Before I post that last couple days of the hunt, I'll address a couple other issues.

My tag/permit to hunt brown bears was dated to run from 4/17 to 5/1, therefore the nine footer that I saw on 4/15 or 4/16 could have been shot by the gun hunter (his tag was validated on 4/15), but not by me.

On the 8th day of the hunt, apparently John (gun hunter) approached Tom and asked if we could all hunt together....the hunts were booked as 1X1 hunts. I was not included in this discussion, but we had actually been glassing together for 5 days....in fact, I only hunted alone with Tom for one day out of the first 8 days in camp. The other two days we were weathered in.

On the 8th day, maybe a couple bears had been located when I looked over my shoulder and spotted a large bear making his way down the back side of Horse Marine. I got John's attention, and then got Tom's attention. John spoke with Tom, then ran to get his gun and Tom went to look for Jeff who was on the back side of the knob, also glassing.

When Tom returned, I asked him if this bear might present us with an archery opportunity, but Tom seemed pretty focused on getting us to a closer vantage point, as we were 430 yards from the bear. As soon as we got to the closer ridge, John was already set-up to shoot....the bear was 243 yards away. I didn't repeat my question about an archery stalk.....

Both John and I agreed that whoever tagged out first would be more than willing to film the other hunter as the hunt continued, but no one deferred a first shot opportunity to the other hunter....an important point to consider when one is an archer, and one is a gun hunter.

Tom estimated the bear to be about 9'6" to 10 foot....and at the beginning of the hunt, Tom told me that John was looking for a bear over 10 foot, and that fur quality wasn't that important. My goal was a nicely furred animal that was 9'6" or bigger. Since this bear wasn't quite as big as what John was apparently looking for, I assumed that he had changed his mind.....

Perhaps I should have repeated my question about an archery opportunity....as the bear continued to drop in elevation and was at 235 yards when John fired his first shot. Once that shot was fired, the bear turned and started to head up hill. Three shots later, it was a done deal....but at least there would be a carcass to hunt over....if bear could find it before the eagles finished it off. Since Tom suggested that we clear a couple shooting lanes in case a bear found the carcass, we stacked the limbs on top of the bear. This actually seemed to keep the eagles off of the kill. Seven days later, the brush pile was stil undisturbed, save for a fox and few magpies.

Now, regarding the 13th day of the hunt. It seems that some people were surprised that I chose to pass on what might very well have been a 10 foot bear because it was badly rubbed. I can only say that since the brown bear is one of very few animals that are usually killed by hunters and not necessarily used for their meat, I didn't want to take an animals life if it wasn't going to be a trophy to ME. I should also mention that I intended to try some bear meat....I removed some tenderloin from John's bear, but Jeff threw it away a few days later.

Ask "Tom inPa" about his brown bear.....this 10 footer was significantly more rubbed than Tom's and he has mentioned a couple times in that past that he wished that he had known just HOW rubbed it really was. I can only say that when I looked at this boar heading towards me, my thoughts were "If only you had hair!!" The decision to shoot never entered my mind. I think that Tom would have liked me to take the bear because he really wants his hunters to be successful.... What I found most ironic is that I would have loved to have had an opportunity at the first bear (which was taken with a gun)....and the second bear (larger, but with poor fur) was closer to what the gun hunter had originally mentioned that he was looking for. It is funny the way that things work out sometimes....

Day 14 found us checking Freeze-out knob. It was on this day that I actually mentioned some of my concerns and observations about being being "grouped" with a gun hunter, when the hunts were to be 1X1 hunts. Tom immediately realized the merit of my concerns and he seemed even more determined to help me find my bear. That was the day that we saw 6 bears....but none that were within stalkable distance, except for one that was badly rubbed and in an area that would have been difficult to stalk because of the variable nature of the wind.

Day 15 - Tom started the day by telling me that he had helped MANY hunrters fill their tag on the 15th and final day of their hunt. When someone with Tom Kirstein's reputation makes a comment like that, you can't help but feel the next adrenaline rush starting to build.

We returned to Freeze-out knob, but we brought Steve (a third guide that arrived in camp yesterday)and Alysia with us. After glassing for a while, Alysia had located one bear across the valley, I had located the badly rubbed bear from yesterday, and then Tom found a bear. A BIG bear. Tom talked to Steve about acting as a "flagman". I asked Alysia if she was sure that she wanted to burn a day of her hunt watching some archer chase a bear that was a mile or two away (because her guide would flagging for us). She was all for it. Since her husband is just completing a taxidermist course, their goal is for her to take ANY bear. She won't have any problem filling that tag with her gun.

Game on. Tom grabs his gun and his pack, I have my pack and my bow in hand and we are good to go. Tom looks again at the boar and says that we should be able to be there in 2 1/2 hours......60 minutes later, we are 451 yards from that boar. When Tom locates the bear and breaks out the scope, all he can say "What a PIG of a bear!" and he repeats this for several minutes. I asked him how big this bear is and he said 10'6" and over 1,000 pounds - and that is just after waking waking from hibernating (bears are known to lose a third of their body mass during the big sleep)!!

A snow squall is looming on the horizon and as we approach this boar, he is dropping down from his vantage point on the flank of a mountain. There is one more ridge between us and him, and this ridge was a canyon at the base of it. If the bear makes it to the canyon, I'd be shooting down on him and he would never know that I am there. It is a scenario that I have replayed through my head a thousand times.....my dream shot at a dream animal.

As the bear drops lower on the mountain flank, the first of two snow squalls hits....and we make our move, getting to the last ridge that separates us from the "big guy". I check the rangefinder and he is 206 yards away, and slowly feeding downhill towards the ravine about 40 yards in front of my boots....Tom has nicknamed this ravine "Grand Canyon".

As we get closer to the mountain, the wind eddies are becoming much worse and the wind direction is becoming far more variable. When the bear reached 191 yards, he lifted his head and the inevitable finally happened...he got a snootful of our scent. He wheeled into the alders and we never saw him again....but for a few minutes, it sure was exciting to finally have a legitimate stalking opportunity at such a magnificent beast.

The cold weather seems to have really affected the number of bears being seen. It was typically about 26 degrees when we woke up in the morning...and the high reaches somewhere in the 30's. Tom expected to see 15-30 bears on some given days....I think that on our best day (day #14), Tom and I saw 6 bears, and Jeff and Alysia (the bew gun hunter) saw 2 more bears, for a total of 8 bears seen. Tom also expected the terrain to "green-up" while we were there, and it seemed like it was just starting to occur on the last day or two of the hunt.

Camp Newton, a fellow archer from Arkansas arrived in camp today. It will be Camp's third hunt with Tom. Camp is a little more selective than me....he is hunting for one of those monster boars that I got to stalk on my final day.

I'll post some photos when I get home in a day or two....but unlike Forest Keith, I don't have any hero photos. I read your thread today, Forest....that is a great bear!!

...and no, I still do not regret NOT taking the golden horseshoe....LOL.

From: Bou'bound
03-May-10
living the dream jake. thanks for sharing

From: bullelk
03-May-10
Jake, Thanks for taking the time to give us a report. Many bowhunters from around the nation have been anxiously waiting for this report. Something tells me those bears haven't seen the last of you! Have a safe trip home.

Mike

From: Bigpizzaman
03-May-10
Congrats on a great effort! When you do get your Brown Bear it will be that much more "special"! Talk to you soon!

From: Stekewood
03-May-10
Thanks for the update Jake. Enjoyed following along as always!

From: Scoot
03-May-10
Jake,

Thanks very much for taking the time to share with us. A wonderful tale from an amazing area. I can only dream of such a hunt-- consider yourself lucky to be on this adventure.

From: Clutch
03-May-10
Jake--been there done that in BC--not the greatest feeling returning without your trophy after so many days of hard hunting and fighting the elements--when you connect on your brown bear on the future hunt, the gratification of that success will be worth that much more--You did an awesome job on this hunt my friend--Congrats

From: hntnfool
03-May-10
Thanks for taking us along Jake, sorry it did not go as planned, but remember the fun is still there, it will just happen on a different day and be even sweeter.

Lee

From: Bowboy
03-May-10
Jake,

Appreciate you taking the time and sharing you're daily journal. It's an adventure only few ever get to experience. You gave it 110% but it wasn't to be which is fact of hunting. When you get your opportunity at a brownie it'll be a monster, and it'll be that much more sweeter success. Your day is coming Jake! Have a safe trip home.

From: Jaeger63
03-May-10
An outstanding narrative of your hunt Jake! It sounds like it was a very memorable experience that you'll often reflect back on.Jake I predict you'll hunt the great Brown Bear again someday and finally get the shot opportunity you deserve! Thanks for sharing your adventure with us.

From: Florida Mike
03-May-10
Well that just SUCKS! I've been following this story for 2 weeks now and I never thought it would be as interesting as it was but it was great

Except for not having a "hero photo" to oogle at and that whole "inaudable audio" was pissin me off! And not calling in everyday too!

But it was a great story and I'm sure an awesome adventure to reflect on while sitting in a rocking chair when you finally get too old to climb mountains and chase eagles. Thanks again Jake and Pat for giving us valuable entertainment to buffer the agony of waiting for our season to begin. Mike

From: Hawkeye
03-May-10
Great story Jake and your respect for the animal is impressive. It will happen!!!

From: Genesis
03-May-10
Interesting in regards to the bear carcass.....

My buddy who guides in 16 said that the Browns in his area don't hit a carcass until it is almost rotten.He didn't know why but it was a fact.

Jake thanks for the pains of calling in each night to catch us up.Kudos!

From: Trophy8
03-May-10
Hats off to you Jake for the hunter you are!

From: Forest bows
03-May-10
I'll say this one more time, i am half the man Jake is. I would be pissed. 2 stalks in 15 days. May be i'm young and dumb but that dose not sound very good to me.

From: CPAhunter
03-May-10
Thanks for sharing Jake.

From: Booner
03-May-10
Jake, I enjoyed every minute of your hunt. Thank you for sharing. Booner

From: Pitcher
03-May-10
I agree two stalks in 15 days is tough hunting. Not sure how happy I would be with the overlapping gun hunters but Jake seems to be ok with it and that is what matters. Congradulations.

From: bowhunter1
03-May-10
Jake, Sounds like you had a good time with a little up and downs during your hunt.what was the weather like on Kodiak this winter because i will be deer hunting the first week of August.Tom

From: Chip T.
03-May-10
Thanks for taking us for the ride these past 2 weeks. Although things didn't go quite right for you I can still see that your have a great attitude. Since you and Pat have become good friends I feel that you can really get into that bears antics and elaborate more fully about his behavior without losing any stars:) Thanks again!

Chip

From: Owl
03-May-10
Well, you are not done hunting brown bears. ;)

Quite an adventure. I wish you had better opps. or more hair on that auto erotic bear. Thanks for taking us along, Jake.

From: bigpizzaman
03-May-10
Forest, I would not speak for Jake, but I think he is VERY disappointed, pissed is not the word, but that is hunting and esp. Brown Bear hunting in the spring. It is so weather dependant, I'm sure if everyone knew how the 2 weeks were to play out they would have done different. But he still was hunting anbd the rest of us were at work wishing we were there!! Oh yeah Chip, TMI, don't need to know any more about the "PeeWee: Bear!

From: Deacon Dave
03-May-10
Jake, Thanks for sharing your adventure with us. We will be anxious to follow with you on your next.

From: AZStickman
03-May-10
Jake thanks for taking us along. You are definitely a class act.... Terry

From: Mtnbikeit
03-May-10
Great story and thanks for sharing.

Can you elaborate on why the gun hunter or Tom did not consider an archery stalk on the bear that was killed by the gun hunter?? If YOU spotted the bear, shouldn't you get first dibs if it was stalkable with a bow?

03-May-10
Jake, thanks again for letting us tag along. I know that you must be disappointed, but I also know this will make you even more determined. Have a safe trip home. Success will taste even sweeter when it does come...and it will come! Rob

From: Ron Niziolek
03-May-10
Safe travels Jake and thanks for taking us along.

From: ORARCHER
03-May-10
Jake,

Sounds like you had a great time and that alone makes the trip a success !! I really enjoyed your daily updates Thank you !! Best of luck in the season that has only just begun.

From: ryanrc
03-May-10
Thanks Jake!

My guess is that it was cheaper to take one boat with 4 guys than 2 boats with 2 apiece. Although, technically each guy had a guide thus one on one. I would also think that they gave the rifle hunter the opportunity because his tag started sooner than Jakes. I imagine they figured they would have plenty of more opportunities for Jake after the rifle guy tagged out. I do agree however that it would make more sense for Jake, who spotted the bear to attempt to stalk it first, afterall, if the stalk was blown, the rifle hunter could have still probably shot it. Hindsight is always 20/20 though and Jake seems like the type that likes last minute miracles so I wonder if he would regret shooting a bear so early in his hunt if he had the option to do so.

I know one thing for sure, it was fun to "tag" along.

From: Tom inPA
03-May-10
NO shame man. You made the right call. Just an excuse to go after them again. Besides you haven't gone five times like somebody I know has for goats. Safe travels home. Give me a call when you get back.

From: TXHunter
03-May-10
Thanks for taking us along Jake!

The "who gets the shot" issue is always a tough one.IMO outfitter should discuss with clients and establish the ground rules beforehand.Sure helps avoid confusion and/or hard feelings later.

From: HuntinHabit
03-May-10
Sounds like a great time Jake. This just gives you a reason to go do it again!! Thanks as always for sharing the trip with us!

From: Shiras
03-May-10
Jake, Sorry that it did not happen this time. I look forward to talking to you in the near future. Matt

03-May-10
Jake,

Thanks for bringing us along for the ride.

From: medicinemann
03-May-10
I think that virtually everyone that posted to this thread since my post of yesterday has recognized many of the same aspects that I have.....When the weather isn't cooperating and there is only one boat, there is only so much that can be done....and safety is a factor, too. An 18 foot boat in the middle of Deadman Bay with 3-4 foot waves and 28 degree water (salt water freezes at a lower temp) is a pucker factor that ranks up there with a 10 foot bear at close range.

The hunt was a great experience. The outcome just came up short....that is why we call it hunting, and not killing. If the weather had been just a little more cooperative, I would have had more stalks....no doubt about it. The people that are in camp right now are going to have some wonderful hunting opportunities. Tom Kirstein is a really good guy, lots of hunting savvy, and he keeps his composure at crunch time. His area has enormous bears with superlative genes....regardless of how they get introduced into the "pool".LOL. That rubbed bear even looked around after he "finished" to see if anyone was watching!! It's a miracle that he didn't hear me laughing....from 300 yards away!!

Steve (Genesis)....you are right, the bears prefer rotten meat. I was hoping that the long winter sleep might get their appetite going, so even fresh meat would be acceptable. Besides, if they waited for the meat to age, the eagles would strip that carcass clean in 2-3 days.

From: bigguy
03-May-10
Jake; thanks for keeping us posted. I waited with anticipation each day, hoping that that would be the day you told us about the kill. I know you will get ur done, just a matter of time, and look forward to being able to congratulate you when it happens.

From: bohuntr
03-May-10
Hey Jake, Sorry to hear that the hunt did not go as smooth as it might have. Although I don't know you personally, based on what I know of you I believe you are one tenacious son of a gun. Anyone who can take the Grand Slam of sheep in under a year with a bow is eventually going to close the deal on a big brownie! I know for sure I wouldn't want you hunting me. :^) Good luck next time out Jake! The harder it is to accomplish the more satisfaction you will ultimately get from it. Frankly, I think that is why we all here are bowhunters. Dan

From: T Mac
03-May-10
Jake thanks for sharing and as always it was great to follow along. How fitting as I flipped my calendar, which you sent me, in my office to May it is a brown bear at river's edge. There is one out there for you should you have the opportunity to go again! Thanks for all you add to this site! Tom

From: JM
03-May-10
Jake,

I think you had a very successful hunt. Listening and reading your story reminds me of the saying that Tom Hoffman uses, it is something like this”bring your patient, friendly, flexible attitude”. That is never more important than when you are on a hunt when weather and the animals just don’t seem to want to cooperate. I bet you had a great time and can’t wait to go back again.

John

From: bill v
03-May-10
Thanks for sharing Jake. Bill v

From: TD
03-May-10
Thanks for taking us along Jake. It was an adventure as always! I could only imagine the real adventure of being there.

Looks like the weather screwed everybody up this year. Put everyone in camp behind the curve. Tough thing bowhunting with gun hunters too. A hard hunt in the best of conditions.

Tough luck for sure. You'll get em next time. (Bet the horseshoe makes an appearance =D )And hope you take us along on that one too.

Thanks again.

From: Bou'bound
03-May-10
Jake a couple questions

1) how many trips have you been on for brownie?

2) What % chance do you think you had at taking the one the rifle guy killed at 243 yards if you had tried for him?

3) What % chance do you think you would have had if you tried to stalk baldy in that other valley instead of letting him go. I know you did not want him, but how good a kill opportunity do you think that would have been if pursued?

From: Gator
03-May-10
We were a pulling for you Jake. Bow hunting along with a gun hunter and not setting the rules can make for a regrettable situation. 191 yards from such a trophy is a awesome experience in itself.

Congratulations on giving it all you had.

03-May-10
The way I see it Jake... We get to go along on another Brown Bear hunt with you via Bowsite. Great!! Disappointed you didn't have an opportunity. If you don't have the golden shoe positioned for the next hunt, at least have your significant other sprinkle some gold dust on your butt before you go. LOL. Thanks for taking us hunting with you.

From: Zbone
03-May-10
Jake – You are a class act and a he!! of a man, much better than I – would have had a hard time not biting my lip while sharing my dream hunt with firearm hunters.

From: cassman
03-May-10
Tough hunt Jake. Would you book again with this outfitter? Would you go earlier or later in the Spring, or maybe in the fall?

From: pahunter
03-May-10
Jake,

Thank you for sharing and showing us all what a class act hunters can be. You are great for the sport.

From: city hunter
03-May-10
Jake was this your first go at the brown , Toms area is it open to locals that draw , did u see or hear any other hunters in the area ,

I thought u would be the only hunter in camp , I always say bowhunting is the easiest hardest thing..

I myself would have been happy with a 10 ft brown baldie ,, i would send him to the hair club for bears , plus a little spray paint goes long way ,, plus the giant skull is what we all want ... just in time for the ny turkeys good luck ...louis

From: Acoupstick
03-May-10
Great job, Jake! I'm sure being picky will pay off for you in the long run. Thanks again for sharing your amazing hunts with us.

From: medicinemann
03-May-10
About a year ago, I spoke with Jim Gabrick....an avid archer from Minnesota (or maybe Wisconsin). Jim had JUST taken a large brown bear with Kodiak Outdoor Adventures (KOA). KOA is owned and operated by Paul Chervenak, and one of Paul's guides is Cole Kramer. Cole actually guided Jim on his hunt, and Jim had nothing but great things to say about him.

I sent Paul a small retainer/deposit on a 2012 Fall bowhunt with the understanding that one slot in 2011 may be coming available if one hunter needed to change his schedule. Apparently, that fell through....so I am currently still scheduled for 2012, but I have gotten my name on his "cancellation" list....should something become available sooner. My 2010 opportunity with Tom Kirstein was a last minute cancellation that I fell into at the last minute....completely unanticipated and unexpected.

So here I am standing at the Kodiak airport talking with the TSA officer (Chris Wallstrum) who is an avid hunter. He mentions that one outfitter recently won an island wide contest as outfitter of the year on the island (and there are quite a few outfitters) ..... and it was Paul Chervenak.

Five minutes later, I am seated, waiting for my plane to leave for Anchorage and I see a coat with Kodiak Outdoor Adventures on it. I walk over to the guy and ask if he knows Paul Chervenak...and he says that it is his boss, and that Paul is out in the parking lot. He takes me out to the parking lot and I got to meet Paul and chew the fat for a few minutes while they were waiting for the next bear hunter to arrive.

I mentioned that I had just concluded a 15 day hunt with Tom Kirstein at Deadman Bay. Paul had nothing but great things to say about Tom, and he even mentioned that the cold weather had really affected the Spring bear harvest this year. Since the bears have to be tagged at the checking station before hunters leave the island, the outfitters can get a quick, up to date "snapshot" of how the hunting season is progressing. Apparently, Deadman Bay wasn't the only area affected.

A couple minutes later I get a return phone call on my Blackberry from Cole Kramer. First, I meet the outfitter ....then five minutes later I am talking with my future bear guide. Funny how things can work like that sometimes.

So here I sit in the Anchorage airport until my flight leaves tomorrow at 0800 hours. I think that I will take all of my gear over and plunk it down in front of the brown bear mount in the next part of the airport.......a 29 15/16 monstrosity of fur and claws.....maybe if I stare at him long enough, some of his karma will rub off on me for the next attempt!

Bou,

The hunt that I just finished was my fourth attempt for a brown bear with a bow.

I think that my chances for a shot opportunity at that brown bear (on day 8) were one in three. We had position, a cross wind, and I think that we could have gotten around the knoll without being seen. The wind was also blowing enough that it would have covered our approach....but eddy wind currents are so fickle in the mountains, that I am just guessing. However, the brief snow squalls would have also helped cut-down on that bear's ability to pick us out. Personally, I think that most hunters REALLY underestimate the vision of a brown bear....any bear, for that matter.

Tom felt very confident that he could have gotten me within bow range of the badly rubbed bear. If brown bears only knew....they'd probably shave before leaving the den every year!!I would have put my chances at two out of three, maybe three out of four. Especially, once he got "involved".... LOL!!

City hunter, Tom Kirstein actually has 5 Spring hunters this year....2 archers and 3 gun hunters. One of them was a resident that drew a tag and opted to go on a guided hunt versus DIY. I also saw at least 4 of the other 5 resident hunters that drew tags. It wasn't that uncommon to see a zodiac raft as we approached areas where we might have landed the boat to glass.

Bill (Cassman), I would still prefer a Fall hunt over a Spring hunt. I have always heard that the big boars always come out of their dens first....but I must confess that isn't supported by what limited experience I have...If I HAD to hunt in the Spring....I'd want to be there right now. You'll see more bears.....but more of them will be rubbed, too. However, it only takes one good opportunity at one good bear.

From: BB
03-May-10
Jake sorry to hear you didn't get your bear. I have nothing against rifle hunting, but I would have thought that they would have given you the chance with you bow and have the rifle guy in wait in case it didn't work out.

If a camera hasn't taught me anything, it has taught me that patience is golden and I am always surprised to see the number of good opportunities that unfold when I choose not shoot with my bow, but instead with my camera. My gut tells me that rifle guy would have had many good chances if they had waited and given you a fair chance and I think you more than likely would have had a good chance yourself.

When I was a young bowhunter, it was hard for me to pass stuff up but as you age it gets easier and even enjoyable to know you could have finished the job, but instead chose to let it walk. I too am in your camp about the rubbed bear. It’s hard to me to shoot a rubbed bear no matter the size. If it can’t be a trophy, like someone else said, “why shoot it” just to fill your tag.

Thanks for taking us along and I look forward to your next hunt.

If you need a summer break, fly out and we will run up to Wyoming and take some antelope photos at very close range.

I wish you well in the rest of your hunts this year. Take care and have many more great bowhunts. BB

From: Ibow
03-May-10
Thanks for taking us along on your hunt Jake and I wish you the very best. I am sorry it didn't work out this time but I am confident it will down the road - you work very hard at it and your effort will pay off eventually.

From: Forest bows
03-May-10
Jake i can get you in with my guy cheap,otc, any time. that bear at the air port is a stud.

From: jdbbro
03-May-10
Jake, Thanks for sharing your adventure. Its a fun way to follow your hunt. When all the stars align and your bears down, it will be that much sweeter.

03-May-10
Jake....Had a blast following your Adventures. wish I had the patience/judgement you do! it's inspiring!

From: midwest
04-May-10
Sorry it didn't work out, Jake. I think you should have gotten first crack at the first bear like BB said.

At least you were "amongst them", which is more than most guys will ever get to do. Better luck next time and thanks for sharing the stories!

From: njbuck
04-May-10
Jake, im sorry to hear that you didnt get to put your tag on that trophy brownie that we were all hoping you would, but im sure that you gained another amazing hunting memory that most of us can only dream about. When you finally do punch your tag on the brownie, im sure it will be one of the most rewarding days in your hunting career. The fact that you passed on a monster boar due to the rubbed coat speaks volumes of your charater. Best of luck on all your future hunts, especially the next brownie attempt.

From: Ron Niziolek
04-May-10
Hey Jake. Since I'm one of the two bowhunters going with Paul (Kodiak Outdoor Adventures) this fall, I'll let you know how my hunt goes. There may be an outside possibility my buddy won't/can't go due to shoulder troubles. Maybe that would open up a slot this fall. I'll stay in touch. Ron

From: Bigdan
04-May-10
Jake sorry to here about your Brown Bear hunt. I thought you would just run one down and stick it. Some animals just seam to be harder to get for some guys . Just look at Pat He mite never get and elk with a bow. We tryed to get him to put in with elknut& myself in wyoming this year. But he must not need any one to help him. (He's did so good on his own) I think I would do a fall hunt next time. I have been waiting till this thread got to 200 to post.Bigdan

From: MarkU
04-May-10
Sometimes cancellation hunts have unintended consequences. Since they are usually discounted hunts, the hunters who originally booked the hunt at full price, and made the trip, will have the first right of refusal. As well as other considerations. The outfitter just can't say "Sorry, John, it's a nice bear, but you'll have to wait until the replacement hunter gets a chance."

Something to think about when booking expensive hunts.

From: city hunter
04-May-10
jake just move to alaska it would be easier ,

From: city hunter
04-May-10
so the residents that draw this tag can hunt the same areas as you were hunting ,

From: Genesis
04-May-10
"Since they are usually discounted hunts, the hunters who originally booked the hunt at full price, and made the trip, will have the first right of refusal. As well as other considerations. The outfitter just can't say "Sorry, John, it's a nice bear, but you'll have to wait until the replacement hunter gets a chance"

That's not how it works with a quality outfitter at all...

From: Gator
05-May-10
"Since they are usually discounted hunts, the hunters who originally booked the hunt at full price, and made the trip, will have the first right of refusal. As well as other considerations. The outfitter just can't say "Sorry, John, it's a nice bear, but you'll have to wait until the replacement hunter gets a chance"

That's not how it works with a quality outfitter at all...

Best to set the ground rules before the hunt begins. Making up the rules as you go can lead to hard feeling at best, disaster at worst.

From: BOWUNTR
06-May-10
I live vicariously through Jake... Thanks Jake. Ed F

From: SDHNTR
06-May-10
I'm with Ed too. Thanks Jake for letting us take part in your adventures. Sorry it wasn't a filled tag!

From: MarkU
06-May-10
My thanks to Jake, for his fortitude.

Genesis, I may be wrong, but for a 1x1 hunt, it seems Jake wasn't by himself very much. At least until the gunner tagged out.

From: medicinemann
25-May-10
Now that the 2010 Spring Brown bear season is over, I wanted to bring everyone up to speed on the season....both in general, and at Tom Kirstein's camp.

Yesterday, I learned that for the past 5-6 years, Kodiak has been tagging about 150 bears in the Spring hunting season. This year, 116 bears were tagged. Many reports are coming in that the bears are still hibernating or only now coming out of their dens. That is the general synopsis.

Now for the specifics of Tom Kirstein's camp at Deadman Bay.

I have spoken with John Caughman (the gun hunter that killed on day #8) a few times since the hunt ended. I learned that John was under the impression that he would have a 1X1 hunt and that Tom Kirstein would be his guide. However, Tom guides ALL bowhunters. When the other hunter had to cancel his hunt (for medical reasons), and I booked that slot as an archer, things may have gone a little astray.

On the eighth day of the hunt, John approached Tom and reminded Tom that he had been promised that Tom would be his guide...that may have lead to Tom's decision to continue to have all 4 of us hunting together.....but I wish that both John and I had been included in that conversation and the subsequent decisions that arose from it. Enough about that.

John Caughman killed a great 9'9" boar with a great hide. We already know how my hunt turned out. Let's focus on the three hunters that I left in camp......

Alysia White killed a 9 foot boar on about the 10th or 11th day of her hunt. I saw Alysia's practice target, and she can shoot. She was hunting with a 30-.06 and she had to do some pretty serious long range shooting to fill her tag....she later told me in an e-mail that she wishes that she used a 180 grain bullet instead of the 220 grain bullets that she used.

Considering how big these bears are, that remark surprised me. However, maybe it was because of the longer than average shots.....I don't believe that any of her shots were under 300 yards, and she hit the bear at least 6 times.

Regardless, she filled her tag, and the bear had a great hide. Kudos again!

An 11 year old from Alabama was hunting with his father, and apparently the hunt was just a little too much for him, as they decided to terminate the hunt at the end of the 3rd day. Sure seems like a shame. While walking back to camp (on day three), the guide spotted a bear out on the tidal flat. The young boy got his .300 set-up and while the guide (Steve) was setting up his scope, apparently about the time that the bear was identified as being small, BOOM!!

The bear was a 4 foot boar cub....apparently it was legal, but it was a concern for a while.

I saved the best for the last .........Camp Newton was the other archer at Deadman Bay. He flew in on the very plane that I left in. This would be Camp's third hunt with Tom Kirstein.....he has had opportunities at 9 1/2 footers in the past, but Camp is holding out for a "BEAST". On about the 8th day of his hunt, he got his wish.....they spotted the 10'4" - 10'6" boar that Tom believed was the bear that I got to stalk on the 15th day of my hunt.

While watching it, another significantly BIGGER bear chased it up the mountain!! Tom Kirstein told Camp that this was a world record bear and that it might possess a 30" skull!! While the bear was originally spotted about 3 miles away, with existing wind conditions, there really wasn't much that the hunters could do unless the bear closed the distance significantly. So they kept eating their lunch and glassing that bear. Tom keep mentioning that this is a monster bear......

The next thing that you know, the bear is about 1 1/2 miles away and it appears to be on a course that just might give Camp an opportunity. Tom and Camp pack their gear and the bear is now less than a mile away. Camp said that Tom kept repeating how big this bear is.....

They were glassing from a point to the north of an area that we called "Yellow Ridge" because of the yellowish grass that is flattened by the winter snow. As the bear continues his trek closer and closer, Tom and Camp drop down into the valley. Eventually, the bear gets into an area where Tom is able to identify much of the terrain. Tom knows that the bear is going to have to exit the stream bed by using one of two bear trails. Have I mentioned that this is a big bear?.......

About the time that the boar is even with (or slightly past) the first of the two bear trails, Tom and Camp get to the second and probable exit point. This area is heavily wooded with many cottonwood trees, and these trees can easily have a 24" to 30" diameter. They see the boar and he is walked directly towards them....now get this.....Camp can see BOTH SIDES OF THE BEAR ON THE BACK SIDE OF A LARGE COTTONWOOD TREE!!!! You have to understand what a massive animal it would take to be able to do this.....

Camp is a dedicated archer, and this bear is now well within his maximum first arrow range. The bear has stopped on the back side of this large cottonwood tree. The tree is 41 yards away. Whether the bear goes left or right, Camp may very well have a great shot opportunity......as the bear lifts his leg to continue forward and go one way or the other, Camp felt the slightest of breezes on the back of his neck.....and just like that, the bear of a lifetime was gone.

They couldn't even hunt the rest of the day. They were so pumped up about the possibility of getting that boar, that when it did not work out, they headed back to the cabin. Camp told me that he had a couple opportunities at bears that I would have definitely gone after, but once he saw that big guy, they just weren't what he was looking for....and people, some of these opportunities were at bears that were over 10 feet!!

....and now you have the rest of the story....second hand as it may be......

Jake

From: hunterdad
25-May-10
Great update ,Jake

Thanks

From: njbuck
25-May-10
Wow, there sure are some serious monsters running around that island. You will get yours on your next trip Jake.

From: city hunter
25-May-10
jake it would be cheaper just to move to alaska and become a res ,,

25-May-10
Jake, thanks for the uypdate and for bringing us along. Most of us will never have an opportunity to hunt giant brownies, or many of the other species you ahve bagged, so we get our thrills vicariously through your hunts.

Have to give you credit for your great attitude about having one shot out from under you by John. Many bowhunters would have been soured by that episode, especially considering you came home with only great memories, but that's not how you are.

So now, my friend, you and I have killed exactly the same number of Alaskan Brown bears! But next trip you will be one-up, for sure.

:~)

From: loprofile
26-May-10
Let me start by saying that I follow and thoroughly enjoy all of Jake's exploits and have nothing but admiration and respect for him and his accomplishments. That being said, I wish that he would not have mentioned an eleven year old boy by name and pointed out his apparent shortcomings and judgement issues.

From: medicinemann
26-May-10
Loprofile,

My intent was not to focus on anyone's shortcomings or to pass judgement....but rather to share with others that may consider taking a youngster with them, that it isn't for everyone. However, that could have been done without mention of the boy's name....which has since been edited from the thread.

If anything, the issue of judgement would be with the guide, NOT an eleven year old boy. IMO, no one should be shooting a four foot brown bear.....no one.

From: loprofile
26-May-10
Thanks, I understand and agree with your points.

From: city hunter
26-May-10
Jake im lost i was under the impression that you would be the only hunter in camp ,It seems there a lot of pressure on kodiak ,While on my bear hunt last year the group before me shot and killed a grizz that was not even 4ft and to boot the poor bear was made a pin cushion on the beach , My opinion is that the hunter and guide should be hit with a fine. I was shocked to hear an 11 year old hunting for browns on kodiak .

From: medicinemann
26-May-10
Lou,

I knew that I would not be only hunter in camp prior to the hunt. I did NOT know that the other hunter had also been promised a one on one hunt with Tom Kirstein. I also did not know that there would be several resident hunters in the immediate area. I don't think that there is a lot of pressure on all of Kodiak, per se. I think that there is hunting pressure on Deadman Bay, because of its reputation for genes for huge bears.

I must admit that I am not knowledgeable about what the minimum size would be for a brown bear, either. After all, who goes to a place known for huge brown bears worrying about what the smallest bear is that you can legally tag?

As far as the age of the hunter.....they had an 11 year old in camp the previous Fall that shot a 9"6" boar at 40 yards.....with a bow!! Kids of the same age can come in all sizes, shapes, levels of maturity, and whatnot. One was an exceptional hunter for his age.....the other probably still has some maturing to do......but I am not passing judgement.... just sharing the facts as they were shared with me. Remember, I wasn't even there when the small bear was tagged.... the info that I have passed on is second hand, and should be treated as such.

I simply wanted to archive some of these facts and observations. That way, if and when future bowhunters book a hunt with Tom, they can read this info and ask appropriate questions prior to/and during the decision making process.....hopefully before making any deposit until they are comfortable with all terms.

From: muskeg
27-May-10
In Alaska it is illeagle to shoot a Black bear cub or Brown Bear cub or a Sow with cubs.

A Black Bear is considered Cub at 1 year of age and a Brown Bear at 2 years of age.

Since bear crawl out of the womb in Jan (or so) but don't emerge from the den until Apr / May / June it is up for interpretation by the judge if there is a citation issued once the age is determined by the tooth.

ADF&G can and do take available tags away from Guides for violations and possibly for taking a Sow.

The Brown Bear harvest must stay at or below 4% (boar) or 1 1/2 % (sow) by official directive of the given population of an area.

On Kodiak there are non-resident tags drawn and resident tags drawn for every hunt. The timing of each hunt is structured so your chance of having company in the field is always there, unless the residents that drew have tagged before you or couldn't make the hunt.

From: Toby
27-May-10
Thanks for the update Jack

From: Gaur
31-May-10
Thanks for sharing your stories Jake. I read the book about the kodiak guides and it would be something to see one of those bears up close.

Any pictures of the big boar you were stalking on the last day?

From: medicinemann
31-May-10
It looks like you have checked the other thread, and if you have, then you saw a couple photos of the "big guy" on day 15.....

From: Turk
01-Jun-10
Jake, Thanks for sharing your hunting adventure. It is always interesting and exciting to be able to share in your hunts. Sorry it did not turn out as you had planned, but look at the bright side. You get to hunt them again!

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