Mt. Goat Mounting
General Topic
Contributors to this thread:
Dennis Razza's Link
Follow as I give the basic details of how I did this goat. Feel free to ask questions if I leave out any details. When working alone I tend not to take as many pics as I should. Hope you enjoy!
Bowsite Sponsor
After Tanning I go over the entire goat and clean any areas that had excess blood or dirt like BH or bullet holes. It is very important to get these areas clean before mounting.
I let the hide drain for about an hr.
After the hide is drained I blow dry it. I use a cattle dryer that has two speeds and temperatures.
After I have the goat dried I will test fit the hide. This will let me know if I need to do any alterations to the form. Now I can go forward with my hide prep. Most goats come in cut up the belly and down the legs. I sew them up then recut down the back before mounting.
Here's a pic of him during sewing. I put the black dots on the hide for reference marks. These will keep me from getting one side longer than the other.
I turn the hide over and cut him done the back. I draw a few lines across were I will cut for key points while sewing.
Now that I have him dorsal cut I will finish the hide prep. I will turn and thin eyes & lips plus pull ear cartilage. It is also very important to clean the hoofs out to the very tips.
After the hide prep is all done I move on to form prep. I start by making a stand for the form. This will later be my frame for the rock habitat.
I'll rough up the form and make my tucking slots.
I need to cut out the leg areas to make room for tucking the skin. I marked the area with marker.
Sometimes when making my leg slots I have to cut through the support rod for the leg. If this happens I run a few rods through the leg for added support.
Now that the form is sanded and the leg slots are done I can do detail work on the head. I will do this on the work bench before putting it on the form. I will sculpt in a septum and do the nose detail. I use a cast off a goat for reference.
I can attach the head now. I will also put a support rod for added strength.
After the head is on I set the horns and level the eyes.
Awesome.... just awesome....
When possible i resculpt the foot so the rod comes out the center of one hoof. They put the rods between the hoofs. Resculpting lets me hide the rod completely.
I'll do my final details to the face before mounting.
I'll turn it upside down and slide the hide on. I will then bolt it back on the frame.
I'll slid down the hide do the eyes and glue him up.
I will spent the next few hrs adjusting and grooming.
Just in case my computer shuts down after I send this...There is another pic on the way!
I will let him dry for a few weeks then remodel and paint him. I will continue with the habitat when the base comes in. Thanks for following! Dennis
What a process from start to finish.
Great work.
Good luck, Robb
Dennis, I'm fascinated by the process, and your efforts and time to bring us along is appreciated. Really nice work.
Thanks Dennis. You did not even start the base and you have a lot of time in. Next time someone asks how much and why show them the pictures.
wow learned a lot there so cool
This is great. There's an amazing amount of work that goes into this. Thanks for posting!
So much to it. Please continue this thru completion.
Dennis is a Bowsite Sponsor partly because of the P&Y Club. I met him in 2007 while we were both at the same P&Y Club "Measurers Training Class" and we became friends. I started to see the amazing work he was doing and talked to him about being a sponsor. All of us have fairly easy access to local taxi guys but some may be looking for that extra special attention to detail for that once in a lifetime animal. If you want high quality work with a full time, business oriented, class act guy give him a call. He can handle any project no matter where you live in the US! C
Wow Charlie, that was a nice endorsement. Its almost as if you appreciate Dennis being a sponsor, LOL. I guess it helps that he does fabulous work! hahaha!
Anyway, so Dennis IF I ever do get a Goat I need to cut it down the back and not the belly? Also, any other tips you would offer about skinning would be appreciated... Mike
Mike asked my question. Wouldn't it have been better for the hunter to skin down from the back to begin with?
Very nice work!
I would think it would be much harder for the taxi to fix a bad dorsal cut instead of a bad belly cut.
You are correct Mike. I am glad Dennis is a sponsor.
Every year we see threads from hunters getting back sub-par mounts from a taxi not used to mounting different species, taxis going out of business because they were good taxis but lousy business men and even some hunters that leave their animals behind on a hunt for the outfitters taxi to do and don't see their animal for a couple years. Hard to find a really good taxi for sure!
Thanks Dennis. That is awesome. Mike
Very cool.... and interesting. Thanks for sharing. Ed F
VERY informative Dennis!! Most people have no idea what is entailed in the mounting of an animal. Thanks for taking the time & effort to give us the details! Also, have you ever posted anything on here (other than just the obvious things such as caping ASAP, keeping it cold, etc) about some field care tips, suggestions,etc. that we can do in the field when skinning, that would help make your job easier as well as possibly providing a better quality product to work with? Any info is greatly appreciated!....Thanks again...t-roy
I love this thread, it is making it hard to wait since I have a mountain goat at the taxi right now! Very cool to see what is likely happening to it at this very moment.
Very nice, thanks for all the detail and pictures. I look forward to seeing the base and all the final touches.
Thanks, --Jim
Informative and interesting. Very nice work!
Thanks everyone! Florida Mike- Personaly I would dorsal it unless you're in a time crunch. It will take more time to dorsal... especially on the side of a mountain! If there is any issue with time or not sure how to, don't think twice and belly it. If you belly cut try to leave points where the legs meet the belly. Stay away from rounding your incision. This will make it hard to line up.
t-roy- Field care is very important! I actually put together a few videos on skinning, caping, packing, shipping, ect... Just never had the time to sit down and edit them yet. I'll put them on when done.
Thanks,Dennis
This is very cool! Thanks Dennis!
True artist. Thanks for showing how much prep work goes into mounting something like this, its something ive never really thought about.
That's good stuff! Thanks for the walk through. This is exactly why I will pay more for my mounts, you guys deserve it! Great work!
Thanks Dennis, BTW I would think if you did a good job putting a video together about how to skin certain big game animals for better taxidermy results it would be marketable? I'd pay $10. or $15. bucks for a CD.... just a thought. Mike
Dennis, nice job thanks for sharing.
DJ
Pretty impressive. Great Pics
Thanks for sharing this with us Dennis.
Your mounts always look fantastic. The only mount I have that I wish I had done differently was my Mt Goat, your lifesize coming downhill pose is awesome. OF course cost always plays into those decisions at the time....
I was going to say when mounting a goat make sure you're wearing tall boots for the back legs ....but that looks amazing and I learned a ton. Thanks for posting this!
x2 Florida mike on the video
I want one....now thats art.
Thanks guys! Yes, I need to get on the videos... Just need to make the time for editing. I think field care and capping/skinning would be a good start.
I hope to finish the base this weekend and get the pics up. Thanks again, Dennis
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
Lee
Cool, I think I see my pheasant in the background :)
I finally finished the base today! I start with a 4x8 sheet that is a cast of rocks. I cut or break this into pieces and form this around my frame.
I screw the pieces together.
Doing my rocks this way give great depth and detail.
A few shots of the finished rocks before I seam them.
This makes me happy that Dennis is doing my mule deer from last season, and makes me really want a mtn. Goat sooner!
I place and shim pieces of rock to get contact with the ground. When I mounted the goat I redirected the rods to one side of the hoof (not the center). This way I can hide any sign of the rods.
GREAT WORK !!! and guys ask why so much money for a good mount !!!
After I have the rock together I use a foam glue to seal and glue the seams.
After the glue sealer is dry I need to seam the rocks. I do this with a mix I make. I sculpt and blend in all seams.
Bill, I just started your mulie! I have a few shows the next 2 weeks then will get it finished. I have the base and the deer set up ready to mount. It's going to look great!
Now I wrap the feet and get ready to seam and form around his feet.
I shave any high spots and make any adjustments to the rock and get the goat level. The wrap on his feet will help keep him clean from the seam compound.
I use rock pieces to shim under the hoofs.
I put seam compound were the feet go and put the goat back on. I now can shape the ground to get good contact to his feet.
Good stuff, lot of work no doubt. Very interesting.
After the rocks are done I airbrush all the seams and blend in before I paint the rock.
Getting ready to put it on the finished base.
I make hidden panels in the back to access the leg bolts and tighten the goat down.
Great stuff, Dennis. Coincidentally, my taxi is putting my mt. lion together right now along with building the rock base for it. I have been helping (kind of!) More like giving my opinions on different aspects of the mount. It has opened my eyes as to how much labor is involved in such a project.
I hope to be able post some pics of it in a few weeks. By the way, your rock base looks awesome so far. Can't wait to see the finished product, as well as the rest of the steps in getting to that point!
Keep up the great work...t-roy
Before I do the finishing touches I put the goat back on. I like to stand back and look for balance and composition with the goat on.
Now I start to add fine details to the rock.
I add my moss in the cracks.
And finally a little snow.
Done!Thanks for following.
As soon as I have time my next thread will be on this cat...
Wow! That is REALLY NICE! Quite the gift you have... thanks for sharing!
Definitely enjoyed the read - very nice work!
Unbelievable! The devil's in the details and you nailed them... I thought it looked good with just the Goat and the rock but those small things just up it to another level.
Very nice work Dennis. I hope to see you at the eastern sheep show.
A good Taxidermist is truly an artist. Nice work! If this is production work, image how good his competitive stuff is.(Assuming you compete)
Thanks for the build-along. True talent.
Thanks for the thread, perfect with my morning coffee. Nice mount!!!!!! Jack
If you don't mind me asking, how much does a mount like this cost? It's amazing work!
Dennis Razza's Link
Thanks for all the kind words... I'm glad everyone enjoys the mount threads!!! I will send PMs to all guys with pricing questions. There are a lot of variables in life size taxidermy that go into pricing wood type, form alterations for a custom piece, open mouth work ect... If you have any specific project you're looking to have done or have any pricing questions feel free to call the studio or send me a PM and I will answer any questions you have.
archery95 and kicker - Pm sent.
t-roy, It's exciting waiting to get a mount back. I can't wait to see the pics of your cat. I always look at the mount back from traxi threads!
Thanks, Dennis
Sold! Wow a true artist!!
Holy smokes, that's an awesome mount! You are a talented man for sure!
That mount is amazing Dennis. I am looking forward to the Muley (thanks for the update) .
WOW Dennis...That is a work of art. Amazing detail
Very well done
As you all can see a taxidermist must be not only an artist, but a mechanical engineer. Through in a little chemical engineering and naturalist and someone with imagination, you to could do this......:) GREAT work my man!
Dennis, this mount is totally awesome! Just goes to show how artistic a taxi has to be! Very nice work! I was just wondering how hard it must be to do the base mount. How do you keep the snow and ice from melting off the mount? I would love to have a mount like the one you demonstrated but im afraid that the snow and ice would melt and ruin my carpet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Lol. It also helps to turn the air on high. Good idea to keep a bucket under the ice just in case!
Just got back from the Pa taxidermy championships this week and took the goat I did in this thread. thought I'd share a pic.
im not really much a fan of taxidermy, but man that is amazing... you do great work and you make it look so easy and thats what top notch professionals do...
outstanding work...
Awesome. As a point of reference, how much time was involved in the total mount? Maybe you can break it down in steps? I really appreciate your tips to hunters about skinning and field care. Thanks.
Thanks guys! Mike- I'll need to sit and break down the hrs. I'm glad the field care tips help out. I'm working on putting a video together of some basic field care tips. It's always good to know how to handle your trophy in the field and get it to your taxi safely. Whether this be skinning, caping, turning & salting, or packing & shipping. I think this will come in handy to our out of state clients who ship trophy's to the studio.
Dennis that goat is incredible. Great job.
Amazing talent on a Fantastic species!!! Towords the end I am thinking award winning work....then there it is ChaChing. Beautiful
Dennis do you do this detail on every piece of work or just competition pieces?
Thanks again for the kind words.
RDH- Yes, I do this for all my work. I did not mount this for a competition. This was a customer piece that I had in the show room at the time of the competition. I called and asked if I could take it, and he said yes.
Awesome Dennis.
I met Dennis this year at the ECWSF banquet, real nice guy and is now a member of the United Bowhunters of Pa.
Evidently he does awesome work and he supports the bowhunting orgs.
Bill V.
Wow, one of the neatest mounts I have seen!!!
Dennis- Awesome work, really loved the detail that you added to the mount. The thing I'm most excited about is that you are only a state away from me! (Also the state I grew up in) If and when I get a sheep or goat, I will be giving you a call. Keep up the good work.
DJ
The first few goats of the season will be hitting the receiving department shortly. Thought this would be a good thread to bring back around. Best of luck to all!
First time to view this thread. Very impressive Dennis!!
Beautiful mount!! If I am successful this winter I guess I'm taking a trip to Pa to have Dennis mount my mountain lion =)
That is ridiculous. You are a true ARTIST my friend. If I am lucky enough to get a mountable animal, you will surely get my business.
Wow! I love posts like this. Its amazing how you can bring them back to life. Really impressive!
You do such amazing work. I love following your threads. The attention to detail is just awesome. Your mounts really are works of art. Jay
I noticed the belly sewn, then cut up the back.
Do you recommend that hunters cut up the back when cape-ing for a full body mount?
Wwilderness, I do recommend cutting down the back unless it's a short haired animal.