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Meanwhile, the people who insist on living in freaked-out mode won't be happy no matter how much ammo they have on hand.

I haven't bought a round of ammo in 2 years. My naivete of the ammo glut assumed that something as ubiquitous as shotgun shells would have not been impacted as greatly.

You don't know what you are talking about. This is my kids' gun and we shoot federal high brass #6s. We were going to buy actual turkey loads to give them a try but we don't need them to hunt.

Also....I have all of the turkey ammo I need in 100 gr mechanicals.

People call others greedy for buying up ammo. I think that is stupid. No o e is buying cases of it. And, a little bit of plinking takes a decent amount of ammo.

So, You fellas just keep on living life with your head in the sand. Acting as if the threats to the 2nd amendment aren’t going to affect your ability to just ease on down and buy a box of 50 rounds to last you another 31 years. Common sense folk have been getting ready for this for decades. The writings been on the wall.

P O W E R !

Of course your political beliefs require you stand against the idea there is indeed a concerted effort to control guns by means other then coming and taking them. I don’t share your sentiments. Nor have I. And, I shoot a lot compared to most. So, I did what I needed to in order to ensure I wasn’t complaining about ammo shortages.

This has been going on since the 90’s. It shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone it’s gotten here. That’s how it works. Things escalate when theirs pressure to make them.

Blame the bubbas, the hoarders, whoever makes you happy. But, don’t look in the mirror whatever you do.

Come again? You have no idea what my political beliefs are.

"the idea there is indeed a concerted effort to control guns by means other then coming and taking them."

I've been watching that for decades, same as most. And yet I still have all the guns and ammo I want. Remember how Bill Clinton was going to take our guns? All he did was stampede AR shooters into hoarding magazines and 223 ammo. And they're STILL being stampeded. The funniest thing is, the hoarders think everyone else is 'sheep'.

If the S really does HTF, most of these closet commandos will never get their second magazine into their gun before a swat team or a smart missile takes their asses out. No? Ask the badasses at Waco.

What you and others like you, can’t grasp with that pea of yours is, every step that’s been taken by any legislature that infringes on the 2nd amendment, was twisted by politicians as an attempt to keep you and I from owning firearms. Every single time it’s a grasp at straws. And, they’ve grabbed a few along the way. Instead of stopping, they intensify the push. The idea everything is going to continue down the ok trail is absurd. Almost as dumb as thinking ammo should be stockpiled on store shelves for our leisure purchase. Especially in the light of the political climate the last 20 years.

I don’t buy the assumption of sheep. That’s your political punchline. Not the truth of it. I see people I consider great friends posting on this thread that are far from sheep. So, don’t try that with me. I know better.

Get your hackles up by my declaration. Gloat about having plenty of ammo. Keep insinuating this is going to fix itself with time. Do whatever makes you happy. But, none of that changes reality. Ammo is harder to find today then it was last year. People been saying that since the 90’s. And, it’s been true.

" every step that’s been taken by any legislature that infringes on the 2nd amendment, was twisted by politicians as an attempt to keep you and I from owning firearms."

And that's why we HAVE the 2nd Amendment, and a court system where we can appeal these attempts to infringe upon our rights. (A court which has affirmed and re-affirmed our rights.)

I'm taking up reloading and have been buying reloading stuff the last 3 months or so. I have been watching what is going on out there. The virus shutdown hurt many ammo company's production. I believe it is slowly catching up though.

The local BPS where I was at in Florida was slowly getting ammo in. However.....the problem I experienced there is ammo scalpers. You had to get there early, before they opened and get in line. There was a clique of 3-4 the same scalpers who were there everytime the delivery truck delivered. They would tell you where your place in line was....they tried to do that to me twice. At 0900....they would go up to the gun counter and use their BPS card to buy 8 boxes of pistol ammo each....however much BPS got in that morning. They would then go re-sell it for an inflated price. They were doing this anytime the truck delivered. If you do the math....that is a lot of ammo they were cleaning out. Often times they bought all the pistol ammo before anyone else in line could get any. BPS knows what they're doing yet would not (or could not??) stop these 3-4 scalpers. The local police and intel folks know they're scalping and word on the street is they're being watched and have vids/pics of them. I'm sure they have or will get their credit card purchase records from BPS as evidence. Hopefully they get popped for commercial reselling without a license and tax evasion. The last time I was there to get reloading stuff last week....I almost had a throw down with 2 of them. These scalpers are stealing the ammo buying opportunity from others who need some ammo for legit personal use. Unscrupulous ammo scalpers are not highly thought of in these times. Go to longrangehunting.com and see what others think about ammo scalpers.

And, fundamentally there should be no fight for a US citizen concerning their rights. The courts don’t decide right and wrong. Only law as they define it. Which is ok until it’s not applied with the same prejudice.

I’ll never understand a person hanging on supreme court rulings as a goal post. As if they posses something so noble. For goodness sakes, murder is illegal in every state. But, aborting human beings isn’t. Yep. That sounds like rational decision making. And, exactly the type of people I want deciding how the Bill of rights applies to us individually.

My father is a retired LEO, I borrowed his 12 ga. this winter for a hunt, he insisted on giving me all the ammo and reloading equipment associated with it. (the back end of my wifes 4runner was squatting on the way home). Anyways: I have never bird hunted or reloaded or whatnot and therefore am a little ignorant. I only bow hunt, I pull out a rifle if I get hungry and haven't filled a tag yet.

question: I have several boxed of #4 00 buckshot. I see in the thread people discussing #5 #6 etc. I am sure #4 was an LEO thing, Will it work for Turkey? what would be the disadvantages, advantages?

thanks for educating the shotgun ignorant.

oz

Many states set an upper limit of #2 shot (which is NOT #2 BUCKshot.)

(#4 is .25" diameter, 00 is .33" diameter.)

I will go check state regs, don't plan on hunting with the shotgun, but -------never know I guess.

oz

You could have bought 18 packs of charmin ultra soft last April easier than shotgun ammo right now ha ha ha!

Literally they had like 1 box of 12 gauge, 3.5" steel (I think) and 1 box of 28gauge. The shelves were basically empty.

Dana, what an interesting post above. I hate the stinking, rotten guts of Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, and too many other Dem legislators to list. But that doesn't make me a republican or a conservative. Just an American who values freedom, personal responsibility, and limited government intrusion into our lives.