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Sitka VS FirstLite
I can imagine the many debates on here between the two, but I am seriously torn between. Whether that be because of camo pattern (Elevated;Specter) bulk, warmth, you name it.
I am in search for November day warmth in the Midwest. Days that may dip into the teens or single digits.
But I am also the guy that like to move around. So the fanatic series or sanctuary may be too much warmth
I mix it up and hunt from the ground (no blind) or in the stand.
Not sure what sitka offers for ground concealment with the elevated pattern?
Possibilities... Sitka Fanatic jacket with Stratus bibs.
Or stratus jacket and bibs with extra layers underneath.
First lite sanctuary Jacket with Solitude bibs.
Or the solitude full set with additional base layers.
Help a guy out please.
I am athletic build. 6'2 220
I would go with Sitka simply because First Lite is funded by Liberals.
That, and sitka is great gear, and have sizes to fit anyone.
"First Lite is funded by Liberals". Do tell....
For the love of God let's not do this! LoL.
Google “ The Chernin Group” “MeatEater” “First Lite” you can decide for your self. But the more you look the less impressed you will be spending your money with either of these companies, that assuming you are not a limp wristed like a few around here.
Sitka has whitetail pieces specially made for every stage of Whitie season from September to January.
Well thats a real hard pitiful shame on first lites part and Steve too. Hands tied to anti gun. Hard to fathom their reasoning behind it?
I’ve been making the same debate and I’m going Sitka
I’d go with Sitka because of the Chernin group thing. Also because of John Barklow. He’s a sick bastard.
I went with sitka. My largest concern was the Elevated camo pattern and being on the ground. No regrets anywhere else but I definitely learned something about first lite. Thanks guys
I think that Sitka has less heat loss which absolutely critical for all day sets plus there is nothing quieter on those super cold mornings where you can hear zipper for quarter of a mile?
If you are on budget then First Lite is not a significant compromise.
I chose the heater body suit because I am cheap and for me it’s more packable.
I fantasize about the fanatic with the bibs but probably will never breakdown and buy unless Charlie bequeaths me his hand me downs. LoL
You boys werent kiddin. No more First Lite for me. Definitely takin that sticker off my truck too. I guess we'll see how this all plays out.
Ive ordered from Day One before, they make good stuff. I have an ASAT pull over fleece shirt that I wear over whatever I got one
Of course we can't forget Sitka Gear and their virtue signaling by opposing oil drilling (a tiny tiny portion) in ANWR. The ultimate irony, considering their gear is made from petroleum.
Would second Day One Camo, dont have alot but what i have is top quality.
Look at the Day One Cowboy Suede. Very soft, very durable. Great garments.
Have a day one set of overalls in cowboy suede, good stuff and wicked warm.
I went with the Huntsworth and my Buddy went Sitka Bibs and fanatic jacket. Having tried on both I’m glad I went with Huntsworth for a fourth of the costs. We will see when the hunt is on.
All First Lite all the time :)
I like first lites merino. Not a fan of the company that owns them, but comfy merino.
I’d go Sitka. The fit and finish is just better all around.
I have garments from both companies, and neither brand has earned my loyalty. My latest failure was a pair of First Lite merino pants. They didn't even last 1 elk season before I wore holes in the seat and one knee. By contrast, I wore a pair of $37 Wrangler ATG pants this year, and they don't show any evidence of wear whatsoever.
I'm usually a "buy once, cry once" kinda of guy when it comes to just about anything. I don't mind spending more for quality. But, I just don't see the value/quality in these 2 brands for the outrageous prices they charge for them.
I am in the midwest and Sitka was my choice. Have been toying with idea of fanatic stuff but really can't justify the cost at this point. My buddy has bibs, and coat and I have worn it. Its unbelievably warm in cold weather, however there is not very many times during the season that I could wear it in my opinion. I have fanatic light series for early season, and have the Stratus pants, vest, jacket coupled with fanatic hoodie(my favorite piece). With windproofing in it I stay plenty warm here in Kansas. Have been out in 25-30 degrees with 20 mph north wind and have stayed comfortable.
Regarding meateater and FL being supported by Anti Hunters. Here is a blog with some information. Take it as you wish, Just thought I'd share additional info that is out there about it.
If it's November and I'm after whitetails here in Ohio, you can bet money I'll be wearing Sitka Elevated II stuff every day. Stratus and appropriate base layers on cool days. Fanatic and layers as needed when it's cold. I don't go bulkier than that...have never needed more. Chemical warmers for hands and feet, plus the right head-wear reduce the amount of clothing (bulk) needed.
I have the Fanatic, and it’s a little on the warm side for most of November hunting in Illinois.
PREDATOR all day, everyday !!
Sitka Fanatic..best money I’ve ever spent on hunting cloths.
Sitka is just better. I don't wear an entire wardrobe of Sitka but the selective pieces I own are all top notch in fit, function and construction. I don't worry about their camo patterns since I wear a leafy jacket when bow hunting or an ASAT shirt over the Sitka tops.
I gave up on First Lite long ago due to bizarre sizing issues while having an average Joe body (5'10" 180#). Also, NEVER pull a loose thread on a First Lite garment.
I have had both. Really dislike Sitka's camo patterns and honestly FL is quieter on stand and ground. BUT I do believe that Sitka is a better designed higher quality item. That being said, I bought out everything I could in FL when they sold out in ASAT.. Glad I did, but the politics of this group also has me thinking I may sell it all and going with something else.
For hunting on the ground in the midwest, I'd hate wearing anything fleece. It seems the burs now are worse than they used to be. You'll be picking burs out of that Fanatic until your fingers are raw. I'd get something a little more bur proof for my ground hunting.
Glad you got what you wanted.
IMO sitting and any kind of movement are different clothing. If you want one set of clothing to cover both sitting in moderately cold temps, but also able to walk you're screwed. Never gonna happen. Only thing you can do is remove good sitting clothing into your pack, do your moving, and then if you have more sitting to do, put on the sitting stuff.
Thanks txhunter. I’ll see if I can help out some.
I recently bought a heavy weight core I’ve been wearing this season. Great piece of gear.
I bought a first lite sanctuary jacket last fall, it surprised me how warm it was and really comfortable and quiet , the material seems a bit fragile so I didn't go with the bibs, will probably get fanatic bibs to complete the set. I could care less about the politics so whatever suits me better is what I buy. Sitka is awesome, I have the stratus bibs and jacket I bought when they first came out, its still like new!
While I'm primarily a Sitka Elevated II guy for deer, the First Lite Cypher pattern really impressed me in Alaska. It's not colorful or appealing to the human eye. Drab but with enough contrast to blend well. I like it far more than the typical box store patterns seen everywhere. I would take the Cypher pattern over anything I've owned the past 20 years for ground concealment.
Kevin, you're right, that's an ugly pattern! BUT I bet it's great for ground hunting after the leaves fall here.
It's cool to be ugly Dana. ;)
Nice! Can't argue with results like that!
The few pieces of Sitka i have owned fit perfect and functioned well. In 2013 i went all in and bought a huge assortment of First Lite gear for a backcountry elk hunt. Once i got all the pieces in and tried them on, i realized the sizing was pure garbage! Everything was too big! I bought medium everything and it was all like an XL size! Didnt really have time to send it back so i just had to suck it up and wear it with a belt. It all said medium on the tags too. The merino was warm but not very tear resistant. After one season it was pretty much trashed. I have not and will never waste my money on anything FL again. Close to 850.00 wasted on improperly sized junk. Now i am a huge fan of Kryptek and Especially Pnuma gear. Both are top shelf quality.