It’s time to join together with loved ones and celebrate America’s newest holiday: January 6th! To make the most of your holiday, please consider these ten patriotic ways of remembering the day democracy almost, but didn’t quite, die.
1) Share your celebration plans with all your friends on Parler: Yes, Parler was shut down by the deep state, but it’s back and still the easiest way to coordinate with federal agents.
2) Gather the whole family around the TV to watch the big Macy's Jan 6th Day Parade: This year the balloons are shaped like all your favorite insurrectionists! Yes, even Wacky Podium Guy!
3) Perform a historical reenactment of the violent, bloody battle by wandering slowly through your city hall, taking photos: The violent surge on our nation’s Capitol can easily be recreated by ages 3 and up. For added flair, open all gates and move barriers to the side in remembrance of the police officers who did exactly that.
4) Make sure to put out Tang and cookies for Trumpy Claus: He won't leave a signed check on the podium you stole unless you do.
5) Hide fraudulent ballots around the house for the kids to find: A great home activity for your young ones. It’s never too early to sow doubt in the democratic system.
6) Dress up as a buffalo: Dress to impress! The buffalo is the noblest of creatures to be hunted. So majestic.
7) Gather the family around the fire to relisten to Trump's speech ordering you to loot, kill, and destroy: Okay, so he explicitly said to be peaceful, but we know what he really meant.
8) Conduct readings of Pelosi’s written refusal of Trump’s request to have 10,000 National Guard on standby: There may be no record of this refusal, but imagining what it did say makes for a great party game. Your kids will love eating ice cream and pretending to be the House Speaker.
9) Surround your house with concertina wire and 25,000 national guardsmen for 9 months: If you want to be patriotic you’re going to have to leave those decorations up for the long haul. The razor wire will complement the Christmas lights you forgot to take down anyway.
10) Just go about your life like 99.9999999% of Trump supporters did last year: It's what Trump would have wanted.
Remember, have a safe and fun January 6th, patriots! Stop the steal! USA! USA!
Disagree. This is better than another Covid thread! That OP is a clown:-)
Yes, I was kidding about that thread. I would have bet it wouldn’t have hit but a couple dozen posts.
Too much generalizing goes on I.e. I am a teacher, so I am out of touch. In reality I am still connected to the corporate world. And when I retire in a couple years, I will share some good stories of fighting the good fight, and not having to do it alone. Lots, maybe even a significant majority, of college teachers are liberal as FOX likes to point out, but there are enough of us Libertarians it would surprise guys like you. And I would argue that number is growing as more recognize the monumental failures of government. Thanks.
You should probably get outside your circle of friends before making ridiculous statements like that.
And it is possible for many folks to be concerned about more than one thing at a time. But that one thing was an attack on our Capitol and lawmakers. How anyone could give that a free pass and still consider themselves patriotic is beyond me.
Hopefully big penalties rack up for all involved, from people radicalized to action - whose lives have been destroyed - to those at the top who created the situation.
How do you feel about the riots of Summer 2020?
Payoffs, will follow based on the success of the strategy!
All, insurrectionist and their followers will be hunted down and imprisoned and their supporters will be sent to indoctrination camps for reprogramming.
Those that cannot be reprogrammed will be shot (I mean euthanized). This is all part of the first step in our climate change policy to reduce the carbon footprint.
BUT! Somehow it’s ok for people to rob and assault citizens in liberal cities. Riot, burn buildings, kill citizens and police.
But how dare you put a tiny amount of that same heat on the kings and queens in Congress. They have now somehow become more important than the public.
I think that the founding fathers would say when you have a grievance with the way things are going you go to the politicians,
you don’t burn cities and kill citizens.
So, as far as I’m concerned the corruption in DC is where it needed to be rooted out and I saw nothing from the videos on January 6th that doesn’t happen in everyone of our liberal cities every day for the last two years.
But those are mere commoners, how dare you scare the elites and Greasy politicians . Republicans and Democrats
I actually have mixed feelings about Jan 6th. Both good & bad. Irregardless of my opinion it undoubtedly will go down in history as a poop stain in the whitey titeys of the republican party.....just not a completely crapped pair of undies as some would like to believe.
Who would that be - all the goobers Trump beat out in 2016? Ted Cruz? Little Marco? Might as well run the Q-Anon Shaman! LMAO!!!
Keeping quiet or pretending like they didn't vote for the party that hates hunting and the 2A.
SIP - you don’t have a clue.
My indecision about the Patriot movement is that the original Patriots fought to free themselves from a dictatorship and the modern times Patriots seem to want to go back to a dictatorship.
A civil war (REALLY) whose gonna be your leader !!! King Trump ...
Waxen it down
In a little white box
That I can sell uptown"
The revolution was in opposition to England’s efforts to place more demands on our early settlers and to help pay for the French and Indian war.
I Remember in the six grade being taught about taxation without representation.
The current administration’s policy is directed towards what they would call the marginalized while subjugating the taxpayers to pay for those groups support to the Dems being elected.
This is no time the waffle back-and-forth!
Hmm, sounds like taxation without representation…
The "dreadful tragedy" of January 6th, has been used solely to continue to divide this Nation. Nothing but a tool of the Left, to advance their Political agenda. What you hear Today from Democrats, is nothing but fodder to attempt to take over the Election process in our Country, so they can remain in power for eternity. That is what I would call a "planned insurrection" !
Trump's own son - your precious Don Jr. - and the talking heads at Fox all pressed Trump to speak out against the Capitol riots. He kept silent, hoping that the election would be voided, (f* democracy when it don't swing your way!) - and people were *killed.*
How is the FBI investigation into the person who planted pipe bombs outside the RNC and DNC offices?
Has the FBI cracked that case yet?
Steve H. - there is not one lib, or as trublu wrote, "“I’m not a liberal” liberals", who is reasonable. Liberalism is a mental disorder and that is on full display when these guys post.
Doesn’t fit the narrative
Exactly the case from Jan 2017- Jan 2021. But remember 'fool' is historically a political appointment.
The dem mob burnt and looted for a whole summer. People where murdered, businesses destroyed, police stations and a Federal courthouse torched. None of those arrested prosecuted.
Statues torn down, historical monuments vandalized, our history corrupted, freedom of speech, thought and opinion cancelled.
The real insurrection started in 2016 and it continues today.
If they'd worn BLM hats and waved BLM flags that day, they would be hailed as civil rights heroes, and January 6 would be declared a national holiday. There would be celebrations and parades all across the country in Dem cities, with a concert telethon tonight in L.A. featuring all the usual lefty entertainment suspects, to raise money for legal defense of the rioters still on trial.
Riots = Bad.
Riots that basically are done to stop the legal functions of government are really bad and have different names - insurrection.
Now, if you riot and loot you should dang well be caught and prosecuted, fully. For what ever "cause" you are associated with.
So, my assumption 1.) is that while most here think it was a "good" riot for "good" reasons... You also 2.) believe those there were just about 700 (arrests so far if I recall correctly) bad apples, because they looted and stole from "us" and did fun stuff like poop on the floor and rub it on the walls, destroy property etc.
So at least we have that, a common bond that every one involved in the riot should be charged fully and punished.
We all agree!
4nolz - if you are asking if I’m OK with the riots I am certainly not. But this topic wasn’t about those riots. How convenient to try to change the topic to deflect. SIP - you don’t have a clue.
Not a “deflection” ................It’s called POINTING OUT HYPOCRACY Phil!
And SIP ain’t the one that “doesn’t have a clue!” (You better look in the mirror! ;-)
More like, 'All you care to acknowledge...'
Will again: "Oh, and civilians and police died." One unarmed civilian was murdered by a government agent who has not been charged. See link for more info that you will not acknowledge.
Will yet again: "We all agree!"
No. We don't.
I heard it was only one person killed. Can you elaborate? I also heard that Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed two black people? Did you hear about that Danac?
Always with the comparisons. "X was worse!" Sorry, does not excuse the attempted subversion of the election by traitors.
As for "they'd have brought their firearms..." our very own military sage, who claimed to have been there, stated on this forum that they had guns ready and waiting nearby.
Come to think of it, haven't heard from him lately, guess he remembered that the internet forgets *nothing* and he's still hunkered down in his bunker.
As for the Capitol demonstration that got out of hand after the President urged them to be peaceful, "People do what they do".
By all means let's seek to understand the fear of power-abusing government pols but not the fear of the Citizenry who is being abused. This is why one step down the slippery leftist slope is two steps too many. Stockholm Syndrome is strong with libtards.
And SIP ain’t the one that “doesn’t have a clue!” (You better look in the mirror! ;-)”
There’s no need to yell. And if you read my response to 4nolz you’ll see there was no hypocrisy.
As far as SIP - too many people are too quick to stereotype folks they disagree with. SIP tried that with me - that prompted my response. He doesn’t have a clue about me. He knows how I responded to one item and tried to use that in an attempt to discredit me. It’s a shame people make those incorrect assumptions about others.
S I P
House, senate and presidency are all democrat, if any republican(especially trump)had anything to do with January 6th they’d already b in jail. Hang on to that dream tho
Did he grab you guys by your lady parts?
One is his deep seated, vehement hatred of Trump (and by extension his supporters) that is based much more in personal than political reasons.
Second, he wants anybody (morally) left of him to be fighting each other. He wants to stir animosity between those he considers social conservatives. And he is now watching with glee as it plays out. Notice he hasn't been back.
And watching from the outside in, how anybody can dismiss the deadly, costly "mostly peaceful" riots egged on and directly encouraged by high profile democrats and media as nothing compared to Jan6 is hopelessly lost to any rational thought.
And I'm pretty sure DanaC is actually Joy Reid.
Billions of dollars in damage, many injuries and deaths don't seem to matter since they weren't wearing MAGA hats.
Risky move by the left. Normal people didn't like violence or people breaking stuff at the capital or the violence and massive damage of the protests the year before and they see the scale of both compared to the political response to both.
I posted for one reason. Too many try to marginalize a day that was the most disgraceful in my lifetime. I could care less about the congress investigations or what Trump said or did not say. Adult Americans, that knew better, broke into our most sacred buildings and desecrated it; disobeyed, demeaned, fought, and injured police; threatened the lives of public officials; attempted to stop our constitutional process; and, overthrow a duly elected government. Trump flags out numbered American flags and cops being beaten with an American flag with a blue strip (I can't get those images out of my head). Then some tried to blame their actions on others or even their own government. I wanted to say that I will never forget what I seen with my own eyes, what I hear with my own ears, and what I felt with my own heart that day watching the raw video as it happened. I can only sum it up as disgraceful and we should not forget what happened that day.
No, January 6th does not compare to 9/11 or Pearl Harbor (nor did I make any such comparison). It is not the same. Those were attacks on our country from the outside not by fellow Americans. 9/11 was not disgraceful but a sad and scary day for my country. Pearl Harbor was the same for my Grandfather based on all his stories about serving in the army and being at the Battle of the Bulge.
I see few have the balls here to call January 6 what it was like Will, Phil, Missouribreaks, and a few others have done. Most of you do not because of you're blind loyalty to one man...one man...over our Constitution.
It is a sad day of remembrance for the Capitol police officers who had to endure the disgraceful behavior by our country's anti-Patriots. We should not forget them.
Oh and Hackbow...I have said many times on this site that I am proudly a liberal and never hid from that. But nobody gets to define me or decide how I feel or how I vote...I do. You're just dumb enough to think that two words (liberal or conservative) define 300 million people in the U.S. Every single human being is more dynamic than that. As you are so predictable...I'll bet you will come back with one derogatory word for me in a response.
I owe no loyalty to a party, ideology, or any person or President. My loyalty is to the country and to the U.S. Constitution.
Quite unlike the lying pieces of crap who claimed an officer was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher, for weeks after they KNEW it was a lie. Some obviously STILL believe it, mostly because they will Swallow-well anything and everything their leftist handlers tell them to. Reality and any common sense has been replaced by TDS. Must REALLY be painful to realize and see the actual results of what you voted for...... I'd have to ask forgiveness from whatever higher power you don't observe.....
I can smell the democrat hypocrisy from here, leading an "investigation" that literally refuses to investigate and removes anyone who even tries.....Smells like..... somebody Shiffed their pants......
You are simply trying to whip up your feelings to indulge your own hatred. Like a teenage girl starting rumors on facebook about another girl that called her fat. You're so transparent you don't even have a shadow. Get some peace, man.
I can plainly see where loyalties lie.
Totally agree, Breaks! However, our media refers to this non-liberal riot as "the insurrection" and woke causes as "peaceful protests". Look up the definition of the word insurrection- we've had plenty of them in the recent past... The media just gave the one that happened a year ago that nasty and ominous name so people could label it as such and be appropriately (according to them) aghast at such heinous actions that the didn't like.
Congrats Brimmer- you've gotten what you hoped for in this thread, and it's not really what you put in your last post. The day was a disgrace, IMO, but to say it's the worst in your lifetime really says something about your life and lifetime.
Hard to understand how someone that is a senior isn't repulsed by the left move in this country. When we are gone there will be no one to fight. Our kids are doomed. My solid example is Biden. He should be nauseated by some of the things his party is doing based on the America he grew up in, but he just lets them go.
The last bastion of freedom will be gone soon.
That place is far from sacred. It’s a den of thieves. Our country and its ideals are not derived from, or housed in a building.
It’s just a building that some of this countries most despicable humans work at. Our employees by the way.
I’m sure there was a period when it was a pure and just place. But it hasn’t been that for decades.
Really? By intimidating Congress into not certifying the election. Fortunately VP Pence for once in his mediocre term stood up for country over Trump. And for that became an object of hate by the cultists. (He still won't be President come 2025.)
LOL....with that kind of overly dramatic response, I'm sure you could use these in your household.
Oh and BTW, "Never Forget" has been associated with 9/11, so your use of it was an attempt to make a comparison. You're as bad at lying as you are biology.
Correct. Starting with the attempts to remove a duly elected president (see: phony Russian collusion investigation, phony dossier paid for by a political opponent, phony impeachment attempts, corrupt FBI "investigators" fabricating "evidence" in an attempt to produce a bloodless coup). When that didn't work, Democrat elected officials incited their supporters, who knew better, enabling them while they broke into federal buildings and police stations (police precinct HQs used to be "sacred buildings") and destroying government records and literally occupying those police stations after chasing the police away, burning portions of cities and black-owned businesses, desecrating historical monuments, disobeying, fighting and injuring police, threatening public officials, killing and injuring innocents, imposing anarchy and terrorizing the citizenry while Democrat officials stood by and watched and worse, bailed them out of jail while Democrat DAs refused to prosecute most of the Democrat rioters, and excused it all in the name of some sort of warped sense of justice?
There. See how I did that?
Really, I mean, really?? That's what it takes to overthrow the American government?!?! How the hell has the Chinese government missed this, Or Putin!!??
Simple as getting a buss load of Chinese nationals posed as tourist onto the Capitol grounds then into the building?? Then just grab the microphone and announce that it's over, you're now under Chinese rule!! Really??? Congress will just shrug, sigh and comply??
You can't believe this because nobody that can read and type can't be that stupid!!
House, senate and presidency are all democrat, if any republican(especially trump)had anything to do with January 6th they’d already b in jail. Hang on to that dream tho
If the votes were not counted on January 6th as stated in the constitution it takes an act of congress to set a new date. What would happen if congress did not set a new date? Or set the date in January 2022. Who is president in 2021? This is constitutional territory we have not been in before. The result could be a constitutional crisis.
Anecdotal evidence isn’t fact. Isn’t that what you say? No scientific evidence to back it up. Don’t you call that misinformation or a red herring? And let’s get real about the body count at the capitol. 1 person killed, but she was a trump supporter. As far as lefties go, I’m sure they secretly cheer about it in much the same way they cheer when unvaccinated people die from Covid!
KS has been awake for weeks dictating his opening post. To make an ass of himself on January 6 has been his only focus for months now! You’ve succeeded! Take your fake outrage and put it towards something useful for a change.
We shall see. Supposedly a paid ballot harvester in Georgia has come forward and they have cell phone tracking to indicate many dumps between midnight and 5am across multiple ballot drop box locations.
I've seen plenty of this violent and non-violent over the past 6 years not just on 1/6. Traitors should be hung as well as those who aide/assist or turn a blind eye to and that list contains some very prominent people...including the VP
Like I said, make peace with yourself first and it'll be easier to be peaceful with others.
But an insurrection? Coup attempt? GTFO
Ambush- What the hell are you talking about? Nice try. Good grief. You got some phycological insight on me now form digital characters on a screen. If you do have that talent then maybe try out Hackbow and JohnMC with their passive aggressive sticking things in other men sexual stuff. What does your phycological insight say about that?
All these aggressive personal posts to me and you think I need to find peace ROTFLAO. Seriously, thanks for making me literally laugh out loud. That was a pretty cleaver tactic.
Jaq- I agree with you that the summer 2020 riots were wrong and despicable. I support prosecuting any and all that participated. I hope the come to visit Fort Leavenworth too. I also see the hypocrisy with some democrats on their outrage.
Just let the impartial Truth come out and if Biden actual run the election without fraud so be it and if not then make it right, the only solution in preserving the Republic.
There are some bright signs...more independents are moving to the Repubs and Hispanic voters are as well. With Hispanics this was probably always inevitable as most are socially conservative and a good many are Catholic or Christian.
A good bet is more will turn to the right as the economy continues to falter and folks realize socialism is not all it's cracked up to be. Not wanting the economy to weaken, but the signs are sure pointing that way IMO.
I might just get a bunch of BC beer drinking knuckle draggers together, take over America and assign all the premium governor's big game tags to myself. Sounds pretty easy to do. What do I need, two buses and a hundred guys? A few Halloween costumes.
KSdeviant - pretty sure no one cares in what sexual stuff you or those you trained-up stick things. You very proudly announced to the Bowsite world your ability to ignore biological fact in favor of feelings brought about by mental illness. Then you constantly preach Fauci "science" and why we should all take 37 indoctrination inoculations plus boosters. You only follow the science when it suits your political agenda. You only show outrage when it suits your political agenda. You claim you are sorta pro-life but not enough to care that babies are murdered for convenience and those you vote for enjoy killing babies because it suits their political agenda. You are openly vile, hostile to all that is good and lack credibility in every aspect.
I think that the only traitors were the ones who voted for Democrats in 2020! Especially, the minions who directly supported their effort to overthrow a duly elected president in 2016!
Talk about accountability…
Turns out the removal of the Community Forum was an ingenious move to bring the toxicity directly to the front page of Bowsite resulting in thousands of more hits a day and increasing the Bowsite value to advertisers. When broad head debates don't supply enough views Politics and Covid sure will.
Well known libtroll starts BS thread, hundreds respond.
...with that said here's another "click" LOL.
Bwaahahahaha! As if you knee benders don't have enough problems with Lil Trudy you gonna come down here? LOL!!!
It is true that I knew I would get flamed but I felt it important to remember the disgraceful things that happened on January 6th. Flaming me does not change what happened.
Your post made me do this, LOL...
The Rittenhouse verdict was absolutely the right one, he should have never been charged IMO, but I say that with no legal training.
I am puzzled why the people who believe Ashley B was murdered think that. She failed to follow repeatedly lawful orders, and in the officer's mind he perceived her as a threat to his and others' safety. He eliminated the threat. If this were a black male in a BLM protest breaking thru the last line of defense in protecting innocent civilians would not most think lethal force would be warranted, armed or not? Should the officer have waited until AB broke thru, and others followed when they observed no repercussions for breaking thru? What would we say if that did occur, and some innocent civilians/congressmen and women were assaulted? We would be critical of the "coward" for failure to perform their sworn duty I bet.
I am asking sincerely. I go back to police shootings of minorities and all the defenders saying the officer felt threatened for themself or others. And I agree with that logic to use lethal force. What is different in this case? Many on the left will say it is only because she was a Trump supporter that folks on the right are calling it murder.
I would like to see our LEOs here weigh in on this with regards to their training. Was he justified? Why/why not? Is fear for one's safety/life or fear for those around you without the person openly displaying a weapon cause for lethal force?
No, I don’t think so either.
So the question you have to answer to yourself is: “what DID I want from this thread and did I get it? Start your path to inner peace.
Ambush- If anyone looking for something spiritual or inner peace from an internet discussion forum then they are definitely off their rocker. I get my inner peace from my God, my wife and kids, extended family, friends, and in a deer stand or on a mountain trail. It definitely isn't from here. If Bowsite has anything to do with your inner peace they maybe some self reflection is in order for you. So weird...its like Good Will Hunting or something.
For people with soooo much info at their fingertips on every subject imaginable.... how is it they are so..... misinformed..... when facts and truth are clearly and openly available.
Not one person has been charged with "insurrection", treason or anything other than trespass, property damage, etc. as much as they feel they can just arrest people and imprison them without a trial, much less a FAIR trial. Official reports state they can find NO organized group staging what happened. Well, except for that FBI guy who was inciting people to go and "you have to ENTER the capitol.... go inside!" interesting there are vids and pictures of him all over the place..... was never arrested, never questioned and nobody knows who he was. So sketchy even the CROWD was chanting "FBI! FBI! FBI!"
Trump offered National Guard protection a day or two before. That is a fact, on public record. He needed either Pelosi or the DC mayor to approve it, which they refused to do, even after several warnings. Begs the question, why? But in TDS insanity..... He is the one who masterminded it all..... SMH.
Can hardly wait to take congress back in the landslide they know is coming. These evil lying POS need to be kicked to the curb, if not in the teeth.....
I will "always remember" that.
I believe strongly in personal responsibility but the media is culpable as well for encouraging poor behavior.
A liberal posting on a Bowsite since around 1998...you are so right. I was just insecure all along. That is why I'm here. Good grief. You are way over thinking this but it was a clever tactic.
And for the last time, I started this thread to Always Remember what happened on January 6th. You don't like the answer then quit asking the question.
Please note this is the first political thread I ever started on the big game forums. So much for your over analyzation BS.
Exactly, it is exercising 1st amendment rights when it only affects “us” - minimized to any degree possible. But when it is directed at “them”, it is an insurrection or a coup attempt. Never mind what those words actually mean.
Pelosi and her committee are mere political theater.
But but WAIT:
Is The FBI Ever Going To Get Around To Finding The Jan. 6 Pipe Bomber, Or Nah?
One year after the Jan. 6 chaos, we still want answers about who placed pipe bombs in front of the RNC and DNC. The FBI and Democrats don’t care.
People probably do care about this but I bet they care about rampant inflation way more and only the left thinks they can fabricate something to tie Trump to this. It's a giant waste of time.
Do we have any law enforcement peeps that could clarify the rule of using lethal force.
I have been trained on the use of lethal force and rules of engagement multiple times in the army and in most cases from what I know I could not justify lethal force in this situation!
kS, In Good Will Hunting didn’t Matt Damon’s and Robin Williams’s characters fix each other or did miss the point in the movie?
Old Bow, I don’t know the answer to that because I don’t know what the officer was thinking. I thought the standard was if they feared for life or safety they were justified to use any force they felt necessary. But we have a voice trained in this saying “no”. I accept that. Pepper spray probably would not have been wise to use inside, I don’t know if he had a stun gun, I guess second guessing an officer seems like not supporting them like they were not supported during all of the BLM riots. I wonder what his fellow officers think? Reported yesterday how many have resigned or retired and I thought it might have something to do with them thinking like many officers nationwide that we just don’t have their backs anymore? Tough position to be in when they never know if they will make it out alive at the end of their shift.
Fraud? Stolen? Shenanigans? Funny stuff? Ballot harvesting? We will never know. But that was the day a large proportion of Americans lost trust in the integrity of the electoral process. Then on Jan 6, the anger and frustration boiled over. But it was ok, because as Nancy said, "People will do what they do".
That people on the Left are equating this with Pearl Harbor and 9/11 shows how pathetic and morally bankrupt the Left truly is.
But fear not, 2022 midterms are coming! Since Biden will likely veto every piece of legislation produced by the new Republican House and Senate, I hope they have enough spine to spend their time investigating every suspect scumbag Democrat, from Biden and his crooked son, to Heels Up, to Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Omar, everyone in the Clinton campaign connected to the fake dossier, and on and on. Wouldn't that be a hoot! And none of it will be reported on ABCNBCCNNMSNBCNPRCBSCNBC.
Instead, every show will open with climate change, followed by the daily COVID update, the "gun violence" update, and will close with the latest unproven gossip on Trump.
No heightened sense of security with a rally happening? They had a fence up outide, why weren’t people shot for entering the building the way they did? Remember 9/11? There were armed guards in front of every fed building for quite some time, due to a heightened state of security. And why so many Cap Police suicides? Not to be disrespectful, but what did they experience or witness that caused them to take their own lives? What type of police force are they? I wonder if there were actually snipers in the area…if so, why? And who is Ray Epps and why isn’t he in custody?
I guess I am not totally ignorant, I wondered from day one why they just didn't pepper spray the entire group trying to push thru the door. And a bullet going anywhere makes a lot of sense as to why he should not have fired his weapon.
Still, the failure at the top to have made proper preparations when their intelligence said it could get bad, as a police officer in a situation like that they had to be shaking inside. I don't put all of the blame on him, not by a long shot! I feel bad for the family, I also feel terrible for the cop. He has to live with it. A number of his fellow officers have committed suicide, scores of retirements and resignations, they are still down 2-300 officers. This has not been widely reported, but WSJ has done a good job with it.
1. Capital guards letting protesters into the capital
2. Nobody on the protesters side killing anyone
3. A dem senator telling a discussion panel that the most dangerous weapon at the protest was the confederate flag. ( that is a special kind of stupid)
4. The Congress going back to work the same day in spite of the fact that this was as serious as Pearl Harbor and 911
HFW, not trying to bust your balls!
I was really wanting some LEO to step up add a little clarity on this issue of using deadly force.
If the 1/6 riots were an act of "terrorism" - using force to achieve political ends - then so were the BLM riots.
The difference is that the latter were successful - and their success was a bloody disaster for Americans, especially black Americans.
The grotesque spectacle Democrats and their media are putting on today is not a condemnation of "terrorism," or "insurrection," or "attacking elections." They aren't planning to say a single damn word about the very recent times THEY did all of those things.
This is all about crass political opportunism, and reinforcing the claim that left-wingers have a monopoly on "righteous" political violence. When lefties use violence on YOU, it's "mostly peaceful" and you should stop whining and walk it off - even when they kill people.
I've never had any patience for rioters or political terrorists of any stripe, from Occupy Wall Street through BLM, Antifa, or the 1/6 crowd. NOBODY should think they can achieve political goals through violence and destruction - but that's not the America we live in, is it?
That sure as hell isn't the message sent by an obsessive hyper-politicized focus on one act of political violence that personally discomfited the ruling elite, while other terrorism is minimized, excused, indulged, and rewarded.
People outside the Ruling Class bubble are sick of this crap. Did any of the geniuses who planned the big Insurrectionmas holiday bash stop to think, "I wonder what someone who lost their home and business - or a family member - to BLM riots will think when they watch this?"
No, of course not - because those people don't matter AT ALL to the elite and ruling Party, except maybe as votes to be "harvested" after they finish dismantling our election system. The message today is that only THIS ONE violent outburst matters. Only this one is contemptible.
And only this one is supposed to reflect negatively on people who weren't at the Capitol on 1/6. Only this one was "caused" by political rhetoric. Only this one "justifies" speech controls and punitive political action against people who committed no crime.
The people running today's media and political circus events are much more aggressively, and effectively, using an act of violence to achieve political ends than the boobs who perpetrated that violence a year ago. The rioters didn't have a rational endgame. The opportunists do.
By all means, throw the book at EVERYONE who thinks they can impose their ideology by breaking the law - but we need to worry a lot more about the people writing the laws, and what they really think about political violence. They most certainly do not reject it entirely.
Flashback: In May 2020, mobs of far-left rioters tried to storm the White House. They were repelled by police, who were assaulted and hit with projectiles.
Flashback: In May 2020, mobs of fat-left rioters tried to storm the White House. They were repelled by police, who were assaulted and hit with projectiles. Democrats and leftists condemned law enforcement at the time for stopping the rioters. #CapitolRiot
— Andy Ngô ?????? (@MrAndyNgo) January 7, 2022
Flashback May 2020: At night, the far-left rioters surrounded the White House and tried tearing apart the protective barrier so they could storm the building. Secret Service and law enforcement were injured by the violent extremists. #CapitolRiot pic.twitter.com/pvxs5pPJzM
— Andy Ngô ?????? (@MrAndyNgo) January 7, 2022
Flashback May 2020: The far-left rioters tore apart the barrier outside the White House piece by piece in an attempt to storm the building and burn it down. Many in the mob called for the president to be lynched. #CapitolRiot pic.twitter.com/krfqIRglNY
— Andy Ngô ?????? (@MrAndyNgo) January 7, 2022
Flashback May 2020: A secret service officer suffered a head injury after being assaulted by BLM & far-left rioters trying to storm the White House. Dozens of other Secret Service agents were injured as well. #CapitolRiot pic.twitter.com/0RTto07AAg
— Andy Ngô ?????? (@MrAndyNgo) January 7, 2022
Flashback May 2020: In addition to tearing apart the barriers outside the White House & assaulting Secret Service & law enforcement, the far-left rioters carried out an arson attack. They wanted to storm the building in an uprising against the President. pic.twitter.com/CNGjOsj0U0
— Andy Ngô ?????? (@MrAndyNgo) January 7, 2022
As I see it & as a proud AMERICAN from a military background the actions of Jan 6th were a complete embarrassment to this country. Now how the aftermath has been handled is most definitely up to discussion !!! But if in any way whatsoever you agree with what happened on that day I'd have to seriously question your __________ pick a word.
If you watch the video she was not the closest person too the officer. There were multiple people leaning against the doors. She was on the far side of the hallway and not up against the glass. When the pistol is pointed at the crowd from around the corner the guys in front appear to back down and warn others that he is pointing a gun. And he then shoots. In the video it appears he fired randomly into the crowd. Because she was no where near the largest threat.
So he either is a terrible shot and missed the man he was trying to shoot or was randomly shooting into a crowd. Both are poor choices. And why he should have been charged and gone to court to hash it out. So the others got charged with criminal trespassing and she got shot dead. Not equal justice. I’m sure he was scared and it was stupid for her to be there but being shot in the face is little more than she deserved.
What I don't agree with is how these politicians sat back on their asses and purposely did nothing during the prior riots and destruction of property in these cities. Sitting back on their asses was purposeful and calculated to undermine the current administration in place. They didn't back our commander and chief, they wanted to see him fail every step of the way. They did nothing to back the president purposely to satisfy their own agenda (which was to bring the president down). That is not a united front or anything that is good for this country. That to me is much worse than what happened on Jan 6. Sorry if you don't agree with that because it was the capitol. Again, I don't condone Jan 6, but I also don't condone the gross lack of support for the leadership while cities were being burned down.
We are playing right into their hands and dancing like puppets to their tune.
Even the “Elitist” in DC don’t know we are all being played.
.... 4knoltz I somewhat agree. However many have downplayed the act itself to nothing more than being led into the capital building by the police.
You may notice the top tier of Capitol Cops and Generals grandstanding in partisan hearings (promoting wokeness and lambasting whiteness) haven't been killing themselves!!
The protests she was referring to included looting, vandalism, mass destruction of property, assault and murder. Also ransacked and burnt were police station and court houses that UPHOLD THE LAW AND CONSTITUTION. Also included assaults and injury to thousand of LEO's. It also included RIOTS at the CAPITOL that had all those same elements.
KS, (or DanaC) what was the date of the 2020 Insurrection at the capital?
Or have you forgot?
I still wonder if the January 6th incident would have happened at all if Trump's suggestion to deploy 10,000 National Guard troops would have been taken seriously by Pelosi. She is as much at fault as anyone, and should be investigated by that corrupt committee.
Trump to a few hundred supporters: ". . . go protest, but do it peacefully."
Shouldn't be too hard to see who should be on trial.
4h · What we witnessed yesterday was the last gasps of a corrupt and discredited left-wing political and media establishment that has, for decades, driven our country into the ground—shipping away our jobs, surrendering our strength, sacrificing our sovereignty, attacking our history and values, and trying to turn America into a country that our people can barely recognize.
These radical leftists in Washington care NOTHING for American Democracy. All they care about is control over you, and wealth and riches for themselves.
But they are failing. No one believes them anymore. And the day is quicky coming when they will be overwhelmingly voted out of power.
Joe Biden’s voice is now the voice of desperation and despair.
His handlers gave him that speech to read yesterday because they know the unprecedented failures of his presidency and the left-wing extremism of the Pelosi-Schumer Congress have destroyed the Democrat Party.
Part of their panic is motivated by the realization that, just like the Russia Collusion Hoax, they cannot sustain the preposterous fabrications about January 6 much longer. The truth is coming out.
But for them, the worst part of it all is the knowledge that the American People are seeing right through their phony media event—which despicably compared a Pelosi-led security failure at the Capitol to the darkest days in American history and the deaths of 3,000 Americans.
The people see right through that sham. They see a cynical politician who ran for office promising unity who is now doing the most divisive thing possible—slandering his political opponents as domestic terrorists, just like insecure dictators do in communist countries.
The American People also see that January 6 has become the Democrats’ excuse and pretext for the most chilling assault on the civil liberties of American citizens in generations. It is being used to justify outrageous attacks on free speech, widespread censorship, de-platforming, calls for increased domestic surveillance, appalling abuse of political prisoners, labeling opponents of COVID lockdowns and mandates as national security threats, and even ordering the FBI to target parents who object to the radical indoctrination of their children in school. And this week, January 6 is also the Democrats’ excuse for trying to pass a radical Federal takeover of state election law. They are trying to BAN voter ID and other basic measures that can ensure the sacred integrity of the vote.
The reason the Democrats are doing all of this is not because they believe they will win a fair and honest election. It’s because they know they will overwhelmingly LOSE one.
Remember, I am not the one trying to undermine American Democracy—I am the one trying to SAVE American Democracy.
Annony Mouse's Link
Flashback: Nancy Pelosi Praised the Storming of Wisconsin State Capitol in 2011As the media fawned over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) commemorating the January 6 Capitol Hill riot on Thursday, few remembered when she praised protesters who stormed the Wisconsin State Capitol in 2011.
Over a decade ago, in the February of 2011, unionists stormed the Wisconsin State Capitol to prevent a vote on collective bargaining reform – the Act 10 protests. As Fox News noted, “thousands of demonstrators managed to enter the building by violently breaking down doors and shattering windows.” (continued at link)
What we are seeing is the Democrat Communist Party and its media cohorts continuing to use their double standards where the BLM/ANTIFA riots were deemed "peaceful" protests, but a much lesser protest with far far less destruction is an insurrection.
Anyone who cannot see the difference has problems.
Annony Mouse's Link
Worth taking a look at the link...real investigative journalism.
But can't believe that people may have conspired to gain or keep control of the richest country in world through covert operations.
I don't know the truth about Jan 6, but I know enough to know I don't know the truth.
A battle that by the grace of God, and by the goodness and greatness of this nation, we will win.
I am teaching my students in American History the steps Lincoln was willing to take in unifying our country after "The Civil War". Let Jeff Davis, Lee, etc. fade away leave, then the government let them build monuments to their leaders who lost the war.
Lets bring the country together. So how do I teach my students to bring our divided country together after January 6th when our President states we are in a battle for our souls? In a battle indicates war, war! I will tell you in North Central Wi these kids do not know what all the issues are but they believe we are at war. Way to unify our country Mr. President.
Another trick question.
(BUT INFLATION WILL, YOU MORON! Sure, that's all Biden, despite happening all over the world given the same root causes (see pandemic, that's real, and a big impact world wide). Could this admin do more on that front, yes, I suspect soo... Is it all their fault? Not close.)
I note that just because somewhere about 100 posts ago there was a funny meme.
Overall I stand by remembering Jan 6 for the horrible, evil day that it was: When near a thousand Americans are arrested because a former president and his political cronies/machinery radicalized them to think it was smart to charge into the capitol building chanting "Hang Mike Pence" (after building a gallows - just for art and symbolism I'm told...), defecating on the floor, stealing stuff, and killing a cop, beating many cops - even stun gunning a LEO to have a heart attack while beating him etc.
Dont go all BLM riots on me. Thousands were arrested and charged as a result of those - as they should have been. Want to protest peacefully for a cause, GREAT. Tear apart a city, no, you get the clink. That's how it works.
Stand on the lawn and yell "Trump 24" and I'd say I disagree tremendously with you. Stand on a corner in my town with a "Say no to vaccines" poster and Ill drive by a second time with a sign that says: "Read a Book" (maybe, maybe I've done that)... But have at it, stand out there.
Try to stop the US gvmt from doing a normal, legal, and correct function, because you have been radicalized to believe a person like Sid Powell is a genius... Into the clink with you.
Just like 3.9% is a good unemployment number under both Trump and Biden... Rioters get the clink. I'm an equal opportunity sender of rioters to the clink.
Claiming that Biden has done anything to improve the employment numbers is also laughable. People returning to work after the government trough finally ran dry and counting that as job creation must be some of that new math they are teaching these days.
there has to be way to charge trump and all his supporters with murder every time one dies, forever
the immaculate insurrection
“Screwball” the perfect handle!
I can admit that a dis-organized group of criminals tried to disrupt the certification of a duly elected president. I will even admit their criminal activity was fueled by an unsubstantiated accusation of a stolen election by an extreme narcissist.
But I am honestly at a loss how you cannot see the exact similarities with what occurred with the now proven Russia hoax. In fact, this was an attempt to bring down a duly elected President, and it was likely more organized by the Dems than the rioters at the Capitol were organized by anyone.
The only difference I see is the Capitol rioting was out in the open, while the Hoax was “underground”. Both were attempts to reverse the election process.
For me, those unwilling to see both of these as attempts to undermine the people’s will are simply motivated by ideology, not facts.
HFW and Matt,
By definition there are several differences.
“Insurrection- a violent uprising against an authority or government.
coup d'état - A sudden and decisive stroke of state policy; spec. a sudden and great change in the government carried out violently or illegally by the ruling power.” Oxford dictionary
By these definitions there are big differences.
The biggest difference by definition is a coup is by the ruling party.
The other big difference is that the insurrectionist are being hunted down by the same ruling party that attempted the coup and no one is or has been trying trying to hold any of the latter group accountable!
This is what I personally think is causing the great divide and until the Dems and their voters acknowledge this I do not think that there will be unity.
"Florida Published 55 mins ago Florida man with Antifa gear allegedly targets January 6 rally, police find explosives at home His helmet allegedly contained the "iron front" logo, which has been used by Antifa groups"
for the dense among us, all 6 of you , bowsite is still the best there is, THC was created as an alternate to the CF that was shut down by your people
i will always come here, mainly for the insight provided and the entertainment
The more alarming difference is the fact the "Hoax" was perpetrated by high ranking elected officials and the FBI!! The Jan 6 was by a very small group of citizens with no power. One of those is waaaaay worse than the other!
Some believe Jan 6th was perpetrated by the highest ranking official. I was taking that into consideration as I parsed my words.
People will disagree with what happened for sure. I did watch it. At the very least I believe Trump should have been much quicker at going on National TV and in a direct, forceful manner to tell people to quit breaking the law. I also think the record reflects his administration wanted to beef up LE before January 6th, which at least to me reflects his mindset was not trying to incite what we saw. My gut tells me he wanted another “rally” type of event to feed his ego and make it about him still.
I’ve heard several Bowsite members suggest the courts would settle it. I also watched states fall away until after the election. However, what no one saw was/is the addressing of obvious fraud in several locations. Brushed under the rug as insignificant or, not even heard before their courts.
But, let’s blame Trump for peoples emotions of having their republic stomped on.
I think that's about as truthful as we can get.
Exactly how do you ( fight like hell ) peacefully
College teacher: “John why did you cheat on your test?” John: “Because Tom did.” College teacher: “Oh well, that make total sense and makes it perfectly ok. Outstanding logic.”
If anyone noticed I posted about January 6th only. Said it was disgraceful and that anyone involved should go to jail. That’s it. I will always remember that day. I said nothing about Trump or Biden, Russian collusion, Benghazi, Clinton, etc.
“Russian collusion” investigation was the same as the riots on January 6th. Really? One was a constitutional process and one was a mob that was fed by lies about the election. One was violent and one was not. If there were lies in the Russian collusion investigation that were illegal then all involved need to go to Fort Leavenworth. If the FISA warrant application was knowingly based on false information then prosecute all involved. I don’t care what their last name is, who they donate to, or what party they donate to.
To make sure and cover my basis with this whataboutism for the last time:
If Hillary Clinton deleting emails after a warrant then prosecute her.
If Joe Biden illegally took money from China then impeach him.
Joe Biden left American citizens in Afghanistan…impeach him.
If Hunter Biden did something illegal then prosecute him.
If it was illegal for Don Jr. to meet with Russians to get dirt then prosecute him.
Ashley Babbit was shot in the Capital on January 6th by capital police. The DOJ investigated it and decided not to charge. Constitutional process.
George Floyd died while in police custody. The police officer was charged and convicted by his peers. Constitutional process.
An independent investigation was conducted on Russian collusion and the constitutional process was run. None of which involved violence. Trump was impeached but not convicted. That’s how the constitution works.
Trump asked a the Ukrainian President to help him find some conspiracy theory computer servers as a favor. He was impeached but not convicted. Constitutional process.
Benghazi was investigated 8 times. If someone did something illegal that got those soldiers killed then send them to Leavenworth. Nobody was charged or convicted. Our constitutional process (congressional oversight) evidently ran its course. If government officials lied about it then impeach them.
Trump held a rally on January 6th and told the crowd they need to fight for their country. Big freaking deal. I here politicians say that all the time. He lied to the crowd that the election was stolen. What politician doesn’t ever lie? If he did something illegal January 6th then prosecute him. Those involved in the riot were responsible free-thinking adults. Trump made me do it is not enough IMO. The deserve harsh sentences.
And around and around this country will go in a death spiral with all the whataboutism and false equivalency. I’m not going to help push the merry-go-round. Until we hold people accountable for their actions (especially illegal actions) regardless of party and prestige this will not stop.
I’m done with the whataboutism and false equivalency BS and won’t respond to it. If you don’t think January 6th was disgraceful or those involved should go to jail then I feel sorry for you. If you don’t want to remember it then it will happen again. Carry on.
You mean like when boys act like girls and girls act like boys? You mean like that false equivalency?
Never remember. Always forget.
No, sorry. You called us all pussies for not believing what you do. That requires us to explain our position.
And let’s be honest. You didn’t start a thread on any of the others, just this topic for your first and only political thread. Return fire is guaranteed, just like the schmuck who started the COVID thread;-)
You bring up a point I think that is a source of angst for many of us, that being the rioters at the Capitol are being treated more harshly than the violent felons in multiple cities during the summer of 2020. Some of the Capitol characters are still in jail.
This is where I think Ryan's logic makes sense, two wrongs don't make a right.
All of the criminals should be treated on equal footing, in an ideal world. Maybe the criminals at the Capitol are being treated harsher because of politics, but maybe it is simply because their prosecution falls within federal jurisdiction where the city felons can only be prosecuted by state or local agencies, many of these being run by democrats who have a reputation for being soft on crime. And we see that is coming back to bite them. Feds are more likely I am willing to bet to display a zero tolerance attitude.
We should prosecute all of them as harsh as possible to create a disincentive for similar future behavior. And it is curious how the press wants to call it an insurrection, but no one has been charged with that, I believe? Mostly all misdemeanors, right?
as the real insurrectionists, seditionists and terrorists and traitors plan for the next attack
I don’t think most agree with that. If she had listened to a lawful command she would still be alive, which is the same thing many said about the man who died in a choke hold selling cigarettes in NY.
Let’s be consistent and drop the emotionalism.
what i had done did say was "some here would agree" with he/him/his/it
also agree on the lawful commands, some here think they are merely suggestions when it comes to the unlawful hordes
still getting in touch with my emotions...been living a lot of astonishment and amazement lately, trying to get to denial (like some here, & there) so this crap fest doesn't even matter
You riot irregardless if your from the low rent district protesting what you believe is a racial injustice or your middle to upper middle class protesting what you believe is a political injustice. You are responsible for your actions.
The facts are the blm rioters and the Jan 6th whatever word ya choose for them. They all belong in the same box. They did what they did. Kinda sad when ya view it from that perspective isn't it.
Don't allow your political preferences to corrupt your basic common sense.
First off in my above post where did I say how anyone else thought, felt or said ??? You took it upon yourself to ASSume that..Brother..
Mostly I find it disappointing that a small percentage of trumpers decided to jump in the same box as the blm rioters.
What you should be concerned with is how our government handled the two different situations.
During the blm riots government did basically nothing & put the responsibility & subsequent blame on the individual states governors & mayor's
Jan 6th the dems are are throwing gas on the fire while the Republicans are nothing but crickets. Scared to say a word because they need the the support of the millions upon millions of Trump loyalists - supporters.
Congress has failed miserably to act appropriately During both of these events.
My glasses don't have red or blue lenses. They have clear lenses.
Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.
What your seeing with House 6th in investigation in all about the democrat narrative after Nov 1st 2022. They are going to tie their voting reform bill to Jan 6th. Very obvious. It will not pass this congress and they want to nationalize elections to allow non citizen voting and ballot harvesting and most of all in unsolicited mail in ballots.
So, when this fails they will say the GOP wants more 6th Jan policy for elections. Not letting people vote freely. The truth could not be further than this. We have already heard the Speaker use this language.
While you all argue your left right line on the Jan 6th riot. The democrats are just getting ready for Nov 2nd answer to a shellacking by voters. Everything will be Jan6th, Jan6th, Jan6th.
That will be the line. Most will agree why they got thumped is going to be very bad Democrat policy start to finish.
They are operating as this Congress is the last one under Joe Biden with Dem majority. As they should!
Now, 2022 they have to develop their narrative for GOP run legislative branch 2023-2024.
I described above what one will be. Now, the ship is hit but with only two good sized holes, the pumps are working fine, they can still fight. Dems lose any more support in Senate its a done deal for them 2022.
After the the passing of the great society legislation LBJ stated and I will paraphrase “that the Democratic Party will have the black vote for the next 200 years!
Also, in 1965 the unwed pregnancy rate was 25%. Today it hovers around 72%!
You always here that the quickest way to poverty is the single head of household family. This devalued the African American male and is a primary contributor to the term “babies daddy “!
It’s sad how we got to where we are today.
All Get SS, Medicaid or medicare for up to six kids. Theres always six! No Fathers. All have two cars Escalade and Buick or Toyota. All get max child tax credit and make 200,000 a year selling booty or drugs. Living the dream thanks to the Great Society. Only GOP thinks they are slaves to the system. They, getting paid.
Between Dmac/Shawn Magyar’s racist stereotypes and Hackbow’s “manpons” memes I’m confident the Trumpers seems like a welcoming bunch to women and minorities. LMAO. Oh and don’t forget Shawn Magyar “heels up Harris” slander. I’m sure women see that and don’t see any double standard at all vs Trump. All this is on Bowsite is a great welcome to women and minorities to bow hunting.
Simply can’t make this stuff up. SMH. The lack of self awareness is astounding.
SS, welfare , medicare fraud is a 200 billion dollar a year venture.
In the last breath of the addict he will say that the drug wont hurt him. Breath deep KS, the Independents have left your liberal rejects.
Where will you go? What will you do when the Big Man returns with The Truth Media Empire?
Trump will make more $ buy guys like you, just like Fox does. Want help yourself can you.
Untie the Skeleton from your closet and let him out.
Lack of self awareness is astounding, indeed.
Geneticist and science has known for a long time that gender is not simple binary. Hackbow is probably a flat earthier too lol.
I’ve never seen someone who likes to show how ignorant they are when it come to science as much as ole Hackbow.
“Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this... and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!“ Harry Dunne
Pretty sure you were busy in Closet unchaining the rest of the family of skeletons!
Unlike your family, mine do not have to live in closets. We love and accept them for who they are. Not for who we want them to be.
Hackbow LMAO! Never even heard of genotype or phenotype. Genetics 101. Stay in school kids or you will end up like Hackbow.
In the opening to your article the word “rare” is used.
All of us have empathy for someone who faces a challenge that denies them a chance at normalcy. What I, and assume others are tired of, is rare conditions are being allowed to turn the world upside down to the point we spend ridiculous amounts of time and resources on issues like pronouns whereas that energy spent there could be spent on more important material such as math, critical thinking skills etc.
Based on polls, reading political teas leaves if you will, large swaths of our nation have had enough of the nonsense. We want people to be treated with respect and to try and include all, but we have taken noble goals well past the point of diminishing returns.
Congrats on the nice buck. Glad you shared it so others know what I do, you are an accomplished bow hunter.
The entire country is weary of seeing mentally disturbed dudes like this being encouraged by radicals to switch teams and outperform actual women. This ain't biology. It's a mental disorder.
Oh, did you ask the deer you killed in the picture above if it was a buck or a doe? The rack, muscle development, testes and rutting behavior mean nothing (according to you). I hope you had pan-sex tag.
You didn’t mention pronouns, but the nonsense we refer to, called ‘wokeism’ includes all of it.
I am not taking shots at your family. You are a good and decent person. Our extended family has some of the same experiences you do.
But yes, I agree with Darren that the gender changes are most likely a mental condition. The suicide rate is abnormally high, and I do not think it is healthy that elementary kids are being introduced to these discussions. You may have more science than most of us, but you will probably admit you are no expert. And the “science” isn’t even settled yet.
I think most Americans are willing to let adults discuss and search these issues, but adolescence is difficult enough without trying to make kids focus on “rare” conditions. I try to be open minded, but some of what is being constantly served up is lunacy IMHO, and that’s all it is, my opinion.
Again, was that deer above a buck or doe or something else? If you didn't know for certain, why did you shoot it? Maybe you knew it identified as a rabbit and you had a small game tag. Please explain your scientific decision to kill this animal.
And for the last time, the context of bringing my son up was years ago on a CF thread on topic that was demeaning and bully mentality. Thereafter, it’s others like you that bring it up when it has nothing to do with the topic. Trying to hit low. That says so much more about you then me.
Shawn Magyar- what did you disguise yourself and illegally break into the Capitol building? Has the FBI interviewed you yet? Are they going to charge you? That’s one big skeleton in the family closet. I’ll bet they are so proud.
The fool you all are suffering here would have you believe 6th Jan was the end. I maintain it was only the beginning. That my fellow freedom loving Americans is what scares the bejesus out of the other side. That, and the fact they know father time is going speed right along to Nov 1st 2022.
The KS flatbanger, Have always said “ you are what ya eat”. I will stand again one day soon in DC. Probably during the next assignment of Speaker or an Inauguration. Cuz every good man needs someone pulling security at the six o clock.
Shawn- if you have to hide your actions (skeletons in your closet) then you probably weren’t righteous. Come on, tells everything you did last January 6th. Aren’t you proud of what you did? Why are you hiding it now?
History will not judge you kindly for your actions on January 6, 2020.
This is piss poor regardless of who you are! If you cannot win the war of words with wit then take your azz whipping and move on! If you feel that you are in the right then regroup and put a better defense together.
This is akin to using a gun during bow season! It is not only unscrupulous but undermines the overall Bowsite community!
KS and I see little in common but I agree with his comment wholeheartedly and I would have zero problems with him popping you in the mouth if he ever came in contact with you!
Frankly, I would pay admission to get to watch!
Family should be sacred and should be viewed as such!
By now I assume you are used to being wrong on many issues, I. e. Trump will be the next Speaker, Ryan doesn’t hunt…
Rocky, agree with you about leaving family out. FWIW, Ryan has class . He recently said the same in my defense about leaving family out.
Good guy, just terrible political judgment;-)
Do you feel any of your fellow Bowsiters/bow hunters are a danger to you?
You are unable to tolerate the fact there are people in this country who will fight for their beliefs in the same way the leftist thugs on your side do. The mostly peaceful protest of Jan 6 is exactly the type of behavior that your side has said is appropriate. And you nearly claimed you have PTSD from the sights and sounds of that particular mostly peaceful protest, but not the leftist thug riots.
The left has been re-writing rules of engagement for several decades. When your morally and intellectually bankrupt ideas are called into question, you throw temper tantrums. Then you cry foul when those that disagree use tactics and language on a level you can comprehend.
You also didn't need to drag your family's personal business into a discussion about bullying. You did it to fly a flag, gin up sympathy, and act as if your anecdotal data point was empirical evidence.
Judge for yourself.
Mentally disturbed is harsh. Mental illness? Yes. Which means they cannot help it.
We all need a little more compassion, but I agree that we should not try and normalize the behavior.
Brah...lol why would anyone use that. What a tool.
1. Unsettled, broken up, or altered in structure or function.
2. Being or resulting from being emotionally or mentally troubled.
3. Showing symptoms of mental illness, severe psychosis, or neurosis.
Frank, I truly didn't mean anything other than mental illness. As far as compassion goes, I have more friends and acquaintances who are out of the closet homosexuals than KS would ever believe. I have worked alongside many over the years. Not one time did I ever treat a single one of them differently than any other human being. If their sexuality ever became a point of discussion (very few occasions) I have always stayed silent unless asked specifically about my views. I always answered honestly. Only one guy I've known personally showed any outward dislike for me or my views.
I don't think any other human being is any better or worse than me. In God's eyes we are all sinners and fall short of His Glory. We all have the same path to redemption and salvation. What I won't accept is someone constantly using cherry-picked, agenda driven "science" in an attempt to force beliefs and policy down our throats. Regardless of all the bright colors, flags and parades. The people who claim being homosexual are no more evil than I. The real evil is in the actions of those who use normalizing mental illness for political gain. KS has painted those who disagree with him and his agenda as mean, evil, bullies, troglodytes, uneducated, unChristian, blah, blah, blah. Even you have pointed out the inconsistency in how he applies his particular brand of "logic" to socio-political goings-on.
I have never asked about your views on the subject by yet you have some homophobic meme or comment to make in response to any of my posts regardless of the subject. Granted I brought up my family in context as you can see in the thread above back in 2018. But is strange that you never do post the memes except when engaging me. You just keep doing it even 3-4 years later.
I can't believe you pulled the "I have a gay friend" as a defense. LMAO.
If you are true to your word then you will stop directly and indirectly (i.e. cowardly) bringing it up on non-related threads and posts. LBGTQ was not mentioned on this thread until YOU brought it up. If you want to debate the science of human sexuality and genetics then post up a new thread. Otherwise drop it and quit bringing it up directly or cowardly indirectly with stupid memes and comments because you think you found a soft spot to hit when you got nothing else.
And you can use the "I have a gay son" argument to validate your opinion, but no one can use the "I have a gay friend" point to bolster a held position? Interesting you don't think the two are analogous.
Again, I never asked you about your views on the subject. Evidently you are not a man of your word. Just let it go. If you want to discuss sexuality and science then post a thread. I can and have validated my position with science. I'll discuss it with you.
Do you have anything to add about the OP. Stick to the subject.
Who is the greatest trad bow builder and shooter alive today?
The only thing you like better than spewing hate is bragging about yourself.
Thanks for playing along!
‘Bowlib’ noun (def). A non-Trump supporter and someone who doesn’t believe the 2020 election was stolen.
Yep, that’s me.
“ This is piss poor regardless of who you are! If you cannot win the war of words with wit then take your azz whipping and move on! If you feel that you are in the right then regroup and put a better defense together.”
“Family should be sacred and should be viewed as such!”
Hack, I think that I will stick these!
You have several salient points but that I could agree with but dilute and distract others with the use of hyperbole!
This shotgun approach may be better suited for bird hunting rather than legitimate debate.
You undermine your own position using this methodology!
Simple world you live in…anyone thinks differently than you is labeled a liberal.
I guess they will go through the constitutional process and get their day in court. If they are guilty then they deserve the maximum.
According to the DOJ and the FBI.....
They have admitted they know who he is. They know WHAT he is.
They just can't TELL YOU who or what he is. Got it? Now move along like good lil useful idiots.... nothing to see here.....
Trump didn’t start a riot with words but Ray Epps did? They are grasping at straws and deflecting.
I always wondered, if the election was stolen and the rioters were righteous on January 6th then why try to blame it on BLM, then Antifa, then the FBI and Ray Epps? If they were so right and justified then why not say it loud and proud even if your going to jail? Why deflect and blame others. Why sacrifice one of their own?
Why indeed…because it’s all a BS lie and you fell for it. Grown man gullible.
A lot of that to go around on both sides
This went on for months, not one afternoon. Biden, Harris and dems supported these efforts and those responsible were never punished.
No Congressional hearing, no outrage from MSM, no concern about restitution.
I believe Americans see this glaring hypocrisy and will vote accordingly come November
The fact is you have a deep seated, seething hatred of Donald Trump the man. Everything flows from that in your political world view. Until you exorcise that demon, you will never be free to see clearly or objectively and so shouldn't be taken seriously.
I didn't deflect. I just flipped it back on you. But your point is still true. Until everyone stops using a bilateral thought processes and lumping everyone on the other side as evil the demons will not be exorcised and we all will not be free.
I'm capable of calling everyone involved in the summer 2020 riots and the January 6th riots idiots and they should be punished. If you can't also do that then maybe you need to see an exorcist.
I seriously don't understand the whataboutism with the riots last summer. We all should be outraged at both. As Missouribreaks eloquently said, "All violent rioters are a disgrace, and should be punished."
Too bad our leadership doesn’t feel the same way as the citizenry.
In other news, Trump Inc. is in hot water in NYC.
DanaC, that would be a great CNN talking point!
No wonder that their viewership falls between dwindling to dismal.