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Montana Preference Points?
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Contributors to this thread:
pav 20-Jan-22
pav 20-Jan-22
Scrappy 20-Jan-22
pav 21-Jan-22
JL 21-Jan-22
Smtn10PT 21-Jan-22
shakey 21-Jan-22
DonVathome 21-Jan-22
DanaC 21-Jan-22
pav 21-Jan-22
JL 21-Jan-22
pav 21-Jan-22
Timbrhuntr 21-Jan-22
Scoot 21-Jan-22
JL 21-Jan-22
Shuteye 21-Jan-22
Inshart 21-Jan-22
Timbrhuntr 21-Jan-22
From: pav
20-Jan-22

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Good day.

It has been my understanding Montana offers preference points for combination licenses and bonus points for limited entry permits. Preference points intended to make sure combination licenses are awarded to highest point holders. Bonus points provide better odds to draw a limit entry permit. The snapshot below is straight out of the regulations...and seems to support the definition of preference points.

From: pav
20-Jan-22

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Found this non-resident combination license draw odds report on the Montana F&G website. Appears alot of tags were awarded to those with zero preference points, while many single point holders struck out. What am I missing here?

From: Scrappy
20-Jan-22
A % of NR tags go to zero PP holders.

From: pav
21-Jan-22
Thanks Scrappy. I assumed there must be a random draw allocation, but didn't see it listed on the Montana website (likely just not looking in the right place). After reading your post, I did find a random draw allocation of 25% per combination license type mentioned on gohunt. Makes more sense now...although nearly 32% of the elk combination tags went to zero point holders last year. Maybe the difference there was returned licenses (failure to draw the LE permit) that wound up in the random draw...

From: JL
21-Jan-22
Pav......did you see the antelope draw odds??

From: Smtn10PT
21-Jan-22
I know I didnt get one last year. I refused to pay the additional 50$ for a point up until last year when I didnt draw.

From: shakey
21-Jan-22
Am I reading this wrong? 0 points =70.94 success and 1 point = 34.71 success

Can I give my point back?

From: DonVathome
21-Jan-22
shakey that is funny!!!

From: DanaC
21-Jan-22
Sounds like a weird 'system', something a casino would be heavily fined for.

From: pav
21-Jan-22

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JL....here is a link to the antelope draw odds.

From: JL
21-Jan-22
Thanks. It didn't open but I'll look for it.

From: pav
21-Jan-22
Sorry, looks like you might have to be logged in to MyFWP in order to reach that page.

From: Timbrhuntr
21-Jan-22
Yup two years I had one point and thought great I'll get drawn nope but a bunch with 0 points did makes sense to me. If I didn't have access to some prime land in Montana I would never go back there to hunt !!

From: Scoot
21-Jan-22
I have a related question... I have three bonus points in MT and have a decent shot at drawing a LE permit I hope to hunt with those points. However, I obviously have to draw the license first. If I hope to hunt MT this year, I'm thinking I should apply without getting a preference point this year because I'll have better odds of drawing the license. If I hope/expect to draw a different tag next year, I'll get the preference point in MT so that the next time I hope/plan to draw in MT I'll have two preference points. Does that logic make sense to folks?

From: JL
21-Jan-22
A few years back I had two lope points and no draw. I drew the next year. Then I put in with zero points and drew. I drew last year with one, plus two doe tags.

From: Shuteye
21-Jan-22
Too far for this old man to drive these days. I have relatives that live on an Indian reservation. They invited me many times to come out there and hunt. I am sorry I never took them up on it. They said I didn't need a license on the reservation? I have a friend that went and killed turkeys and pheasants. A cousin of mine sent me pictures of a mountain lion in his back yard. He is a cowboy and rides his horse every day getting cattle rounded up.

From: Inshart
21-Jan-22
Shuteye, can you adopt me? PLEASE? :)

From: Timbrhuntr
21-Jan-22
Yup first year I went to Montana I pulled in and the rancher and his sons were branding cattle wearing leather chaps and cowboy hats. They were riding horses. I thought I step back in time. It was pretty cool !

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