Western States Request Delisting of Griz
Contributors to this thread:Bears
From: Bowboy
21-Jan-22
I hope this happens but I doubt it. With the current federal administration and the anti’s it’ll get turned done.
Maybe the western states should turn the problem bears loose in these folks neighborhoods.
From: KSflatlander
21-Jan-22
Listening and delisting is based on management goals in the Recovery Plan. It has nothing to do with what states want. If they have evidence/data that the species made its recovery goals then there input would be included in the decision making process. If the request is political…lol good luck with that.
From: Tiogacruiser
21-Jan-22
From: Glunt@work
21-Jan-22
Listing and delisting is part science and part politics. Anyone who has followed the wolf issue knows that.
From: HDE
21-Jan-22
The listing of grizz was and is purely political. When a state offers a grizz hunt, and a federal "judge" halts it with zero evidence, that is not only political but an abuse of power as well.
From: wyobullshooter
21-Jan-22
^^^^ That. Same goes for wolves. It’s been proven time and time again, science gets tossed out the window anytime politicians and/or liberal judges are involved.
From: Glunt@work
21-Jan-22
Fed population required is 674. There are over 1000. The State's and the Feds agreed they were correctly delisted in 2017. Politics didn't.
From: Mossy Cypress
21-Jan-22
The same thing happened in Fl, they followed the science which says black bears should be managed like most other species. Some areas are so overrun with black bears, it took 2 days for hunters to kill 295 out of the 320 bear quota. Then the anti's caused a ruckus because they said the hunters are killing all the sows leaving warm and fuzzy cubs alone to die in the woods. So in turn that was the first and last black bear hunt in fl for over 20+ years. This was in 2015 and probably the last black bear hunt that will ever happen in Fl.
From: TD
21-Jan-22
Nawww.... Not possible. Judges and government agencies are pure "follow the science"..... trust them.... they know what they are doing and it's for your own good.....
From: KSflatlander
21-Jan-22
Listening and delisting is based on management goals in the Recovery Plan. It has nothing to do with what states want. If they have evidence/data that the species made its recovery goals then there input would be included in the decision making process. If the request is political…lol good luck with that.
From: groundhunter50
21-Jan-22
Of course the decision is going to be political,,,,,,,,,, You can have all the science and wildlife mgt data you want,,,,, not going to happen under current political cloud.....
From: Bowfreak
21-Jan-22
The request is not political, it is based on sound management. The response from the left/judiciary is purely political and based on emotion.
From: HDE
21-Jan-22
"Listening and delisting is based on management..."
*Listing
From: Bowboy
21-Jan-22
Bowboy's Link
Here's the news article
