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From: 70lbDraw
02-Jul-22
This shouldn’t surprise anyone! They’ve Been telling us that this is their goal all along.

“Orange man bad!”

Bulls**t! Orange man is exposing the real Democratic Party, and they’re scared to death if him. Why anyone would be stupid enough to vote for this crap is beyond me! I tried to challenge DanaC on the hearings thread over this. Of course it’s nothing but crickets. More and more, I’m thinking these idiots are jonesing for another civil war.

From: TGbow
02-Jul-22
I asked both my in-laws to give me an example of Marxist, Socialist type governments that have been successful and neither of them could give me an example...other than "well, it just hasn't been done correctly yet". Neither party wants "we the people" to have real freedom. We have Marxist and Statist on Capital Hill fighting for control. The Marxist are occupying the White House as of now and why it surprises some folks what they are doing is beyond me...they are doing exactly what they said they would do. These people are not Liberals they are tyrants

02-Jul-22
Climate change, CRT, ESG scores, woke military, Covid mandates, etc, etc, etc.

They occasionally say the quiet part out loud but their actions have been screaming their plans for years.

From: HDE
02-Jul-22
A liberal world order is impossible. The globalized economic world is on the downward trend and you can't have a global utopia without all the major players on the same sheet.

The only thing a so-called liberal world order would do is create global tribalism, which wouldn't create anykind of a liberal empire...

From: Woods Walker
02-Jul-22
Now you know why they're trying so hard to disarm us.

From: speedgoat
02-Jul-22
Exactly why we can’t give an inch.

From: azelkhntr
02-Jul-22
The open dialogue began in earnest in 2007 with the candidacy of BO. When he said he wanted to "fundamentally" change America I paid attention. Sadly, most did not. They were too enamored of the glorious opportunity to vote for a half-breed fag of Kenyan birth. Anyone who calls themselves a liberal, progressive or just democrat today is a marxist whether they know it or not, ie the useful idiots. You shall know them by their fruits. 95% of all the politicians of both parties in DC are either bullied, blackmailed or bought. The few exceptions are vilified standouts such as MTG, Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, L. Bobert, Ted Cruz etc. Too few I'm afraid. The marxists are openly calling Christian Conservatives radicals now who should be constrained and contained. It's the camps are for US, or the pit. Since Jan 25th 2021 we have not enjoyed a legal legitimate Federal Govt. If the Executive is illegal then the entire govt apparatus is. And it has been weaponized against the Patriots and the Whites. This Nation is now morally, financially and culturally bankrupted. If the midterms don't turn this around or if the military doesn't step in to stop these NGO globalists then we are down to 2 options. Submit and crawl on our knees for forgiveness to our new masters, or we take up arms and fight. The marxists have not felt any pain whatsoever and they are emboldened by that. Not one has been assassinated or beaten in the street. The sneer at US for our lack of spine and take heart from that. I always believed in the Land of the Free and the home of the Brave. Spare me the platitudes and show me a CCC hero today. We need more Kyles and less simps. I for one will not be celebrating Independence Day this year. Removing 3 individuals from the world stage would cure many ills but no one is stepping up to the plate. Klaus Schwab, Geo. Soros and BO. The not so hidden black hands.

02-Jul-22
Democrats want to surrender America to a one world government dominated by liberals. They are making progress on their mission. Stay vigilant.

From: speedgoat
02-Jul-22
Exactly why we can’t give an inch.

From: Rocky D
02-Jul-22
The new world order needs a bill payer. Seems like the Dems may want to volunteer the American Taxpayer.

From: HDE
02-Jul-22
"Once they have it globally, there will be no going back."

They never will have it. Just like they will never have true green energy.

From: scentman
02-Jul-22
If America is so bad, why then are people from all nations flocking at our borders? When it really gets crazy, where do we seek safety? Nowhere... in a short time AOC will be on the Presidential ticket... Avita.

From: 70lbDraw
02-Jul-22
“I for one will not be celebrating Independence Day this year.”

You had my attention right up to this point. Celebrate your ass off…f*** the commies! Don’t capitulation to their anti American stupidity! If refuse to celebrate you might as well move to another country.

From: 2Wild Bill
03-Jul-22
On Nov. 18, 1956, Khrushchev stated that “…we will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the United States. We will bury you from within.”

It was frightening to watch then, as it is now.

From: Trad PA
03-Jul-22
When statements such as this are made where are the Bowlibs to defend it? It’s not an attack on those guys, I’m honestly interested in their take on it. I know within my social and professional circle liberals have no real response other than “it’s better than Trump”. But guys on this site have repeatedly said their vote for Biden is justified because Trump was a direct attack on democracy. In light of the positions this administration is taking however I’d love to hear a defense of it from the hunter-liberals on this site. For the record I’m not a “Trump or nobody” republican, as that is often used as an attack from liberals/progressives.

From: Will tell
03-Jul-22
I'm a fierce Independent and will not try to give the Republicans or Democrats blind loyalty. One point I would like to make is when your talking about Democrats or Republicans that most of each party is either conservative or moderates. The problem now is the small majority are making decisions that are way left and way right.

What worries me the most is that when you start talking about people who don't agree with you like their your enemy. You know your talking about your neighbors and regular Americans. One thing I'm sure of is when the guns come out all those tough guys will run and hide in their bunkers.

From: Will tell
03-Jul-22
People who declare to be Independent out number Republicans and Democrats. If you don't believe me check it out.

From: Rocky D
03-Jul-22
“ I'm a fierce Independent and will not try to give the Republicans or Democrats blind loyalty. ”

If you need to be so fierce I would read the party platforms and make an informed and intelligent decision instead of waffling back and forth. If we do that normally we are choosing people instead of issues.

It’s pretty easy because they tell you what they stand for!

From: DanaC
03-Jul-22
"Fully aware. Never heard of an Independent Party. Where is their HQ. "

"Independent" does not mean 'member of the 'Independent Party' - it means 'NO PARTY IS GOOD ENOUGH.'

We've been over this before. And over it again. And again. And yet again. But you keep right on using that bullsnot argument like it was a shiny new penny you just picked up. I don't even expect better of you any more.

Now go ahead and revert to labeling me as a 'Bow Libtard' or whatever cute bumper-sticker phrase you haven't trotted out in the past two weeks.

From: azelkhntr
03-Jul-22

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^^^^ As usual you are wrong; again.

From: DanaC
03-Jul-22

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From: Beendare
03-Jul-22
The LA DA Gascon is an example of this new world the Democratic party has for us.

The interview on Armstrong and Getty with LA assistant DA in charge of Child Endangerment was revealing;

Gascon wants to eliminate police and prisons

He mandated no special circumstances even in violent crimes against children

Gun crimes are up 65% on his watch and violent crime is going nuts

Many catch and release criminals are back out committing violent crimes including a recent case of a released criminal shooting 2 cops in cold blood

This is the reform promised and funded by the outspoken Obama/ Soros ….and the current Democrat party platform.

From: Joseph
03-Jul-22
More like satanic world order. We in United States of America where we call evil good and good evil. There’s only one way to go from here and it’s not good.

Jesus Christ is our hope.

From: azelkhntr
03-Jul-22

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I'm beginning to sense a common thread in our troubles with gubmint.

From: DanaC
03-Jul-22

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Interesting that you use the NAZI symbol for Jews to designate these people's choice of worship. Not surprising, tho'...

From: DanaC
03-Jul-22
Yeah, the Nazi shit wasn't bad enough, add your adolescent crayon scribbling for good measure. Get help, dude.

From: bigeasygator
03-Jul-22
You wonder why folks in the middle are abandoning the Republican Party? One need only look at the racism, insensitivity, ignorance, and fake news above.

From: HDE
03-Jul-22
The owners of hate and racism reside within the platform of the democrat party...

From: TGbow
03-Jul-22
Why is it Republicans are labeled as racist? There are racist people in both major parties...but the leftist Democrats are the biggest racist around and they get a free pass to boot. I'm against racism, that's how I was raised, not to mention it's just wrong. But, I call it how I see it, racism in any form is always wrong. The leftist support discrimination against caucasion people everyday

From: azelkhntr
03-Jul-22
To discover who rules over you look at the peoples you're not allowed to criticize.

From: HDE
03-Jul-22
It's the (D)'s that keep the racism narrative alive.

From: Beendare
03-Jul-22

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This is bad news for the new liberal order folks.

Brazil’s murder rate has gone down 34% since they initiated their new gun policy.

The new president made it easier for the average person to buy a gun. Tucker interviews the presidents son and he explains it. There will be New World order politicians head exploding when this gets out.

From: DanaC
03-Jul-22
"The owners of hate and racism reside within the platform of the democrat party... " "It's the (D)'s that keep the racism narrative alive. "

yeah, it's _leftist Democrats_ labeling Jewish people with Nazi emblems. Gimme a break.

From: TGbow
03-Jul-22
We should quit calling these leftist Liberals..they are pure Marxist

From: Woods Walker
03-Jul-22
Ditto TG. It used to be that the lefties I knew and I both wanted the same thing for the country, we just disagreed on how to get there. Now, we're polar opposites. I see them like I see Putin or Xi. They are America's enemy and therefore MY enemy.

From: TGbow
03-Jul-22
Yep, I would be considered a "classical liberal" years ago. Use to be both parties, for the most part, wanted to see America prosper. These leftist and Neo Cons are totally incompatible with the constitution

From: shade mt
04-Jul-22
Liberalism is destroying our country, no doubt about it. Frankly how on earth could you expect people that accept all this gender confusion and other abnormalitys to do a competent job at running a country?

We call the libs sheep...yet we keep allowing this stuff, who really are the sheep? The libs vote and promote what they want because frankly that's how they are....But what about normal conservative, people?...you know traditional family, Christian people?...we get all fumed up about what the libs are teaching our kids, and yet we keep letting them do it!!

Make no mistake, I'm not advocating violence, nor anarchy....but frankly I'm not budging either. You can spew out all the twisted nonsense you want, and I'll simply ignore you, try and force me......not gonna happen.

You want to be queer....you live your messed up life, and leave the rest of us alone, just don't expect me to say it's normal...

You want to teach all this gender confusion....you keep it in your own home...stay out of mine.

You have problems with gun violence and drive by shootings in chicago, or where ever.....you convict the crimminal, hang them whatever, but you leave the law abiding citizens alone.

You don't believe in an Almighty God?..that's your choice....you leave my faith in Him alone.

You want an electric scooter?...you go buy one, but your not getting the keys to my f-150.

In a nutshell?......you support your shining leader, praise him for the inflation and high gas prices, and low moral standards, you help him up when he falls off his bicycle.....just don't expect the rest of us to.

From: Ben
04-Jul-22
Shade mt, I couldn't have said it better! Your speaking for 95% of Americans. Great job!

From: RonP
04-Jul-22
we all hang with like-minded people, nothing wrong with that. but, until the political leaders can sell the agenda and convince others, the trajectory won't change. it was (one of) trump's biggest shortfalls.

to be successful at selling and convincing others, you have to listen and communicate well. while attacking pro athletes and hollywierd liberals on social media was funny at times and entertaining, it wasn't increasing support for the agenda and not much different than hillary calling us deplorables.

it's safe to say tens of millions of people voted for biden, whether it was 80 million doesn't matter at this point. that's a lot of voters that have policy influence at all levels whether they win elections or not. so, the point is not just winning elections to ramrod your agenda, it's about communicating a vision and getting people on board. that's how good leaders and businesses succeed, not by creating division.

we are where we are because of bad leaders on both sides. i'm a pessimist unfortunately and not convinced a red wave in november is going to right this ship.

From: HDE
04-Jul-22
DanaC - watch any news feed or "talk show" orchestrated by liberal (D)'s and you'll see the racist trash they spew.

Stop burying your head in the sand. Gimme a break...

From: Woods Walker
04-Jul-22
Shade X1000!

04-Jul-22
Well said shade

From: 2Wild Bill
04-Jul-22
RonP, "we are where we are because of bad leaders on both sides"

I understand what you are saying, but it is shy of the true nature of the problem.

No people that lost their character kept their liberties. - Lawrence W. Reed

"It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." - Patrick Henry

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."- John Quincy Adams

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." - 2Chronicles 7:14

The Declaration of Independence clearly states that American rights come from their Creator(God); created, endowed and entitled in context. If you don't know/want God, in the end, you lose forever and know it forever.

"for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.” - Jesus

From: RonP
04-Jul-22
Agreed, I get it and understand the "true nature of the problem" is exacerbated by bad leaders. To think that Biden was portrayed as a uniter is laughable.

From: 2Wild Bill
04-Jul-22
My wife uses the terminology, "hippies in high places" to describe many political representatives today.

From: DanaC
04-Jul-22
HDA, people IN THIS FORUM are copying and spouting NAZI bullshit. Stop burying YOUR head in the sand.

04-Jul-22
The word Nazi came from the nickname for the Socialist Democratic Workers Party in Germany in the 30's. History is repeating itself.

From: DanaC
04-Jul-22
Spare us the semantics, Nazis were minority-hating bigots.

04-Jul-22
facts is facts. do the google.

From: DanaC
04-Jul-22
Yes, and the 'fact' is, that whatever they called themselves, they were bigots who believed in their own racial superiority. Both parties here claim to be for the average American but both push for big spending that lines big pockets.

04-Jul-22

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From: TGbow
04-Jul-22
DanaC, you are right about both parties lining their pockets. Leftist and Neo Cons are both pushing for the same thing, just going about it from different angles. My point is...racism is always wrong, no matter what package it comes in.

From: spike78
04-Jul-22
Dana do you actually think for one minute Biden really cares about minorities? I’d love to be a fly on the wall at his house. I can’t imagine what would come out of his mouth.

From: TGbow
04-Jul-22
BLM is not only racist but was started by Marxist. Racist are among all political parties but they just have a free pass on the left. Because of Leftist policies I'm discriminated against in my work place. It was wrong during the Jim Crowe era and it's wrong today... no matter what form it comes in.

From: HDE
04-Jul-22
DanaC - Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, Whoopie Goldberg to name a few.

Get your head out of the clouds...

04-Jul-22
call yourself independent if it makes you feel better. hell you can even call yourself a fierce independent. at the end of the day all power in washington is decided by numbers of republicans or a democrats. the side with the most numbers chairs all the committees and has all the power. in washington there are only two parties and even independents have to decide which side they are going to caucus with. if you have primarily conservative views and you vote for a democrat, you are an fool.

From: DanaC
04-Jul-22
"Racist are among all political parties but they just have a free pass on the left. "

Just curious, are you giving the racist Nazi alt-right shitheads here a free pass?

From: TGbow
04-Jul-22
DanaC, absolutely not. I was just making the point that the media gives the leftist a free pass when it comes to racism. I detest all forms of racism because it's sinful and wrong. Living in the deep south all my life I've seen racism in all forms, shapes n sizes. I witnessed my mama in the 60s standing up from r people that were being discriminated against for their skin color..I'm thankful for what she taught me about what's right and wrong when it comes to racism. What she taught me is the fact that racism is wrong in any form. I've seen as much racism from people that aren't white as I've have from white people. I've offended white people, black people and other races because of my stance on racism. I put the Nazi type racist in the same boat with the other racist.

From: bigeasygator
04-Jul-22

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Just curious, are you giving the racist Nazi alt-right shitheads here a free pass?

Seems that way, Dana. Looks as though much of the Code of Conduct doesn’t really apply these days either.

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From: TGbow
04-Jul-22
BEG, if any body is double standard it appears to be you buddy...at least I try to be conisitent

From: bigeasygator
04-Jul-22
BEG, if any body is double standard it appears to be you buddy

K

So, Dana and then your post immediately breaks the profanity rule

For pointing out two clearly racist, sexist, and transphobic posts…again…K.

From: TGbow
04-Jul-22
I was referring to the racist issue BEG. The fact that I point out the left is guilty of racism doesn't mean I don't acknowledge that all racism is wrong. How you get what I said to be racist, sexist, or transphobic is beyond me. I made it clear I'm against racism. Do I agree with homosexuality, transgenderism? No I do not and I never will. Does that mean I hate those people? No. The left thinks that because I disagree with someone that means I hate them or want to harm them..that's absurd. I work with people that are lesbians... Do I agree with them? No. Am I disrespectful to them? No. I will never accept homosexuality as ok..but that doesn't mean I want to harm them or be disrespectful to them. I totally disagree with my father-in-law when it comes to politics but I love him and respect him even though I think he is wrong and delusional.

From: bigeasygator
04-Jul-22
How you get what I said to be racist, sexist, or transphobic is beyond me. I made it clear I'm against racism.

I was never referencing anything you said, TGBow. But apparently calling out posts that are clearly racist and sexist is enough to get yourself called racist and sexist I see.

From: TGbow
04-Jul-22
BEag, you quoted DanaC's question to me about about giving a free pass to Nazi racist. I apologize, I guess I misinterpreted what you were referring to.

From: fuzzy
05-Jul-22
Ugh

From: RonP
05-Jul-22
between now and november all orchestrated events from the left and msm will focus on women, hispanics, race, guns and january 6th, with the occasional reference to white male privilege and its dangers.

From: TGbow
05-Jul-22
White mail privilege is a joke in today's world. Everybody in my work place has a poster display..except for me. I don't need a poster but it's a good example of leftist rhetoric and how they always does the very opposite of what they claim to be accomplishing. Democrats n Republicans have lost common sense in their knee jerk reactions based on emotion and which way the wind happens to be blowing.

From: TGbow
05-Jul-22
Leftist and NeoCons don't deal in facts or logic. Back in the 70s in high school on any given day there were guns in the trucks..never had a problem. I say guns are not the problem but leftist throw their energy toward the symptom and not the real cause.

From: azelkhntr
05-Jul-22

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From: Brotsky
05-Jul-22
Absolute insanity in this thread.

From: 70lbDraw
05-Jul-22
“For pointing out two clearly racist, sexist, and transphobic posts…again…K.”

Those terms have NO meaning anymore. Y’all sound like kindergarteners calling each other a doodyhead and yelling nah nah boo boo! It’s funny how the lefty’s are the only ones keeping these useless terms alive!

From: azelkhntr
05-Jul-22
Your political consciousness and awareness cannot develop if you keep using the terminology of the Marxists. Liberalism and Progressivism are merely terms employed to make it palatable to the citizen. They mean Marxism/Communism/Socialism. Once you reject the false L vs R dynamic the world of politics expands into the real. There is no Leftwing or Rightwing as it's been sold to you; daily. Racist and bigot are also the tools of the Marxist to shut up the opposition. Rascism and bigotry keep US from focusing on the cancers eating away at the Republic. Is it rascist to point out that Marxism was and is a zionist construct? Is it rascist to point out that the ones who used it to drag Imperial Russia into the sewer was done by the Bolsheviks who were led by their zionist overlords? Is it rascist to point out the obviousness of so many of a particular race and religion now dominant the heads of our sacred institutions let alone the msm and hollywood? Is it now racist and bigoted to state the obvious?

From: bigeasygator
05-Jul-22
Let me spell it out for you simply (and for 70lb because he doesn't seem to understand either)...saying all of the problems with government can be sourced to a common ethnicity/religion shared by a handful of people in said government (who by the way, aren't all Jewish) by sharing a graphic labeling them with the Nazi Jewish Badge is blatantly racist and bigoted. Not surprising that you would fail to comprehend this though.

From: azelkhntr
05-Jul-22
So now the Star of David is racist? Bwaahahahahaha! Man, now thats racist.

From: azelkhntr
05-Jul-22
Wrong. Most of these people in positions of authority and influence in the West today are Satanists and he doesn't care what you label yourself as. No one is saying its just one common ethnicity, race or religion but we cant help but notice that the scales are tipped heavily in one direction can we? Or maybe we dont want to think too much about it which is probably the case.

From: bigeasygator
05-Jul-22

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So now the Star of David is racist? Bwaahahahahaha! Man, now thats racist.

It's not just the star of David. It's the star of David emblazoned with the word "Jude" (German for Jew) that Jews were mandated to wear by the Nazis.

Reinhard Heydrich decrees that all Jews over six years of age in the Reich, Alsace, Bohemia-Moravia and the German–annexed territory of western Poland (called the Warthegau), are to wear yellow Star of David on their outer clothing in public at all times. The word "Jew" is to be inscribed inside the star in German or the local language.

During the Nazi era, German authorities reintroduced the Jewish badge as a key element of their larger plan to persecute and eventually to annihilate the Jewish population of Europe. They used the badge not only to stigmatize and humiliate Jews but also to segregate them, to watch and control their movements, and to prepare for deportation.

From: azelkhntr
05-Jul-22
^^^^ So why were the Germans driven to do that?

From: 70lbDraw
05-Jul-22
“Let me spell it out for you simply (and for 70lb because he doesn't seem to understand either)”

Ok, my turn to spell. Your identity politics aren’t working anymore! You want to accuse someone of racism? then spell out your grievance with some intelligence. You can spout the buzzwords but you don’t have a viable explanation to back your claim. I still have an original box of Aunt Jamima pancakes in my cupboard. Does that qualify me as racist? Did you support the swearing in of Katanji Jackson? You know, the justice that was appointed, by your party, strictly for the simple fact that she has ‘dark skin’?

From: bigeasygator
05-Jul-22
Ok, my turn to spell. Your identity politics aren’t working anymore! You want to accuse someone of racism? then spell out your grievance with some intelligence

Identity politics? This has nothing to do with identity politics. This had to do with a blatantly racist post from azelkhunter. You got pulled into it because you said the term "racism" (amongst others) has no meaning. It most certainly does. Does having Aunt Jamima in your cupboard make you racist? No, it does not. However, saying a SCOTUS justice who has a law degree from Harvard, clerked for a different SCOTUS justice, and served as a judge in a US District Court for nine years got the job "strictly for the simple fact that she has ‘dark skin’" most certainly is. And FYI, she wasn't appointed by my party.

From: bigeasygator
05-Jul-22
^^^^ So why were the Germans driven to do that?

*sigh*

From: TGbow
05-Jul-22
People get jobs and are denied jobs on a regular basis because of the color of their skin. What do you think quotos do? Unfortunately we will always have racist people on this earth but I call racism as I see it, no matter what form it comes in. As I said before, tit for tat doesn't solve any problems, it only makes things worse. If anybody doesn't see the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to racism, they must have been living under a rock for several decades.

In the private sector people should have the right to hire whoever they want..that's part of having a free market...I know that sounds foreign in today's society. If a black man owns a business he should have the right to hire whoever he wants to ..same goes for every other race.

It's very clear that leftist draw out the race card when they can't debate the facts. I don't tolerate racist people around me, never have, but when I see racism I call it what it is, no matter who the guilty party is.

From: azelkhntr
05-Jul-22
bigeasygator05-Jul-22 ^^^^ So why were the Germans driven to do that? *sigh* ///sigh, isn't an answer. I looked it up. The Juden star of ID was centuries old. In fact it appeared first in the year 1215. The cancer that has infected the West is multiculturalism and the rejection by the immigrant of the ideal of E Pluribus Unum here in the USA. We are taught and told now that to be a true American we must accept and celebrate every deviancy and perversion even in violation of our Conscience and Constitution. I reject that and will not comply. I'm beginning the 5th. chapter of Mein Kampf. The descriptions of the social, economic and political problems in the Weimar are shockingly similar to what we are experiencing today. I was going to read this book when I was 16 but didn't. Today I can clearly see that I was socially manipulated to believe that if I did, I would somehow become tainted and perhaps even an accomplice to the holocaust. No matter. I couldn't have possibly understood the political sides of it at that age anyway. Its free to read in a pdf format. I chose the Ford translation.

From: KSflatlander
05-Jul-22
BEG X 1000. Great posts!!

From: TGbow
05-Jul-22
Joel, it doesn't matter what her views are what matters is she is a leftist that happens to be a minority...that's all that counts. But, you can bet if it were someone like Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams they would be labeled a sell out because they wouldn't be supporting the leftist Marxist agenda. It wouldn't bother me at all if all the justice were black if they seek to hold true to the constitution.

But, if we criticize someone because of their stance and they happen to be black then that makes us a "racist".

From: bigeasygator
05-Jul-22
Wait, you changed parties today? You claim yer a card carrying registered Libertarian form La?

Reading is fundamental, Shawn.

I have to laugh when i here Libtards like BEG try to hang the Racism rope around folks neck. Does it make you feel somehow superior to others.

Superior? Nope. Has to do with the fact that I think this board, and the world for that matter, would be a better place if blatant racism like azelkhunter posted or blatant sexualism like you posted wasn't given a free pass.

From: bigeasygator
05-Jul-22
I looked it up. The Juden star of ID was centuries old. In fact it appeared first in the year 1215

And it was started and used as a badge of shame. It is a badge borne of hatred and bigotry.

I'm really confused now though. Seeing that you are now extolling the virtues of Hitler's manifesto and seemingly pro-Nazi, how does that square with your personal views about Putin being justified in invading the Ukraine to squash the Nazi menace there?

From: TGbow
05-Jul-22
Either way, Hitler was an evil tyrant that wanted to exterminate the Jews, which were some of my ancestors. Whether Nazis, Marxist, leftist, Alt Right, racism is evil and the leftist are guilty of this atrocity just like the rest of them.

From: bigeasygator
06-Jul-22
You just told us you were a Libertarian…

And never did I say anything to the contrary. You’re either putting words in my mouth or your reading comprehension needs work. Based on the other threads, it’s likely a bit of both.

From: KSflatlander
06-Jul-22
“I betting hes never done a thing bigger than himself. Virtue signaler blowin pure smoke and who sits on a keyboard90% of the day.“

That’s called projecting. A classic characteristic of narcissists.

From: 70lbDraw
06-Jul-22
“However, saying a SCOTUS justice who has a law degree from Harvard, clerked for a different SCOTUS justice, and served as a judge in a US District Court for nine years got the job "strictly for the simple fact that she has ‘dark skin’" most certainly is. And FYI, she wasn't appointed by my party.”

Please provide proof of racism on my part. China joe said flat out he would put a “black woman” on the bench. You’re going to need a scientific explanation for this one. Seriously, if you don’t teach me the error of my ways, how am I expected to change them?

From: ohiohunter
06-Jul-22
Any “man” throwing around the term narcissist is an absolute beta, but I think most here already knew.

From: bigeasygator
06-Jul-22
Please provide proof of racism on my part. China joe said flat out he would put a “black woman” on the bench. You’re going to need a scientific explanation for this one. Seriously, if you don’t teach me the error of my ways, how am I expected to change them?

Saying someone got a job based strictly (ie, solely; purely; for no other reason than) on the color of their skin and ignoring all of the qualifications that person brings to the table is racially insensitive. It is the epitome of what modern racism is. Since you asked for "science", there are plenty of papers and articles that delve into the concept of modern racism (https://dictionary.apa.org/modern-racism).

Let me ask you, if I said "The only reason Amy Coney Barrett got appointed was because she was a woman," would you view that line as sexist?

From: bigeasygator
06-Jul-22

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But, it's all part of the liberal world order

Y'all give politicians way too much credit. The notion that there is some global cabal pulling strings like a puppet master is laughable.

Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians and others have been abundantly clear in terms of what their plans and visions are, and they are codified in their party platforms.

https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/

https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Rules_Of_The_Republican_Party.pdf?_ga=2.133346702.1693422534.1657119547-1785364529.1657119547

https://www.lp.org/platform/

And IMO, the best characterization of the political reshuffling and changing party demographics that have played out in the last few election cycles has been done by Peter Zeihan. He covers it in the first 17 or so minutes of the linked video.

From: TGbow
06-Jul-22
Axel, you're wasting your time I'm afraid.

From: Rocky D
06-Jul-22
“ Party platforms" are a facade. They are for general public review, they are for the sheep”

Axel, what makes you the expert on who is sheep and who is not!

The Democrats have been telling you every four years! Biden said that he was going to be the most progressive president ever so where is the surprise!

Maybe you should try educating sheep locally instead of nationally since there are plenty in Wisconsin.

From: 70lbDraw
06-Jul-22
“Saying someone got a job based strictly (ie, solely; purely; for no other reason than) on the color of their skin and ignoring all of the qualifications that person brings to the table is racially insensitive. It is the epitome of what modern racism is.”

Once again…prove it. Just because you say it, doesn’t make it so. Please bolster your claim by describing the remaining attributes that confirm my racist behavior.

“Modern racism”? Is that how you justify it? You call it modern?! So, It’s not like the old school racism where people were beat, burned, lynched, and shot because of the color of their skin?! “Modern racism”…not as brutal as racism used to be, but just as effective in labeling those you disagree with…?!?! Lol!

Like I said, your identity politics are the best replacement for logical and realistic explanations.

She was nominated BASED ON HER SKIN COLOR! China Joe confirmed it. Just like saying high gas prices are necessary to achieve the liberal world order.

“Let me ask you, if I said "The only reason Amy Coney Barrett got appointed was because she was a woman," would you view that line as sexist?”

No, She’s not the first woman there, and I doubt she’ll be the last.

Your hypocritical ignorance is showing again!

From: Will
06-Jul-22
I swore off these, but must be moody and opened this one... Weak day for me. BEG raises many good points.

Given the most recent SCOTUS nominee is factually more qualified than the one rushed through before her, who cares? Seriously. The idea that because Biden said he'd select a black woman, she cant be the most qualified is epically laughable.

As someone noted in one of the last posts, Barrett was going to be a woman no matter what - her or another woman. Was there not a man Trump and McConnell could ram through at the last moment? Of course there were qualified men! Doesnt matter.

The president gets to pick, and decided one of the MANY women with high legal qualifications was what the court needed, so he selected Justice Barrett.

Biden just did the same thing.

Regardless of how you feel about one being liberal or conservative or whatever, the president gets to pick. If you have issues with KBJ on the court for how she was selected, I'm curious to hear about how much you dislike ACB on the court given her lower level of judicial experience.

From: bigeasygator
06-Jul-22
So if I say someone only got the job because they are a woman - not because of their qualifications - it's okay as long as a woman has already held the job?? What?

There is no hypocrisy. There is nothing wrong with saying "the nominee will be a woman" as Trump did with ACB, nor is there anything wrong with saying "the nominee will be a black woman" as JB did with KJ. They were clearly under-represented demographics on the SCOTUS at the time they were nominated. What is wrong is when you imply that the only reason either of those people got the job was because of those characteristics, completely ignoring/invalidating all of the qualifications they bring to the table.

How you use words matter, and just because you think what you say isn't insensitive or hurtful to people doesn't mean that it will be perceived that way.

From: Orion
06-Jul-22
Race and sex should never be a qualification for a job

From: Will tell
06-Jul-22
You fellas need to loosen your undies and let your balls loosen up.

From: bigeasygator
06-Jul-22

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Trump had a long list of candidates (most were men) and AB was just one of them

He came out on record a day after Ginsburg died saying his nominee would be a woman.

President Donald Trump said Saturday evening that he will choose a candidate to fill the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Supreme Court seat next week and his candidate will be a woman.

"I will be putting forth a nominee next week. It will be a woman," Trump said during a rally in Fayetteville, North Carolina.

From: 70lbDraw
06-Jul-22

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“What is wrong is when you imply that the only reason either of those people got the job was because of those characteristics, completely ignoring/invalidating all of the qualifications they bring to the table.”

Aaaaaand again…China Joe told the world he nominated her for her skin color!!

I’m curious how you explain away the fact that Justice Clarence Thomas, has been labeled, by the democrats as “a black white supremacist”? Does he not have any qualifying attributes, other than being a black white supremacist, to support his position on the bench?

From the link: “Former NBA player-turned-Twitter personality Rex Chapman suggested Justice Clarence Thomas is a "Black White Supremacist."

"As Clarence Thomas is signaling, they would like to get rid of contraception," Goldberg said. "Do you understand, sir? No- because you don't have to use it… you better hope that they don't come for you, Clarence, and say that you should not be married to your wife, who happens to be White, because they will move that."

So, are these politically correct statements that fit the lefty narrative, or are they just as racist as the accusations you throw around? I’m sure you have some logical defense for your hypocritical thought process??

Face it bro…under your definition of ‘racist’, you’re just as racist as the next guy!!!! Prove me wrong… I dare ya!!!!!

From: bigeasygator
06-Jul-22
Aaaaaand again…China Joe told the world he nominated her for her skin color

He said he wanted to nominate a qualified black woman. That is different than saying the only reason she was nominated is because she's black. There is a huge difference in those statements. Not sure how to make it any more apparent to you.

I’m curious how you explain away the fact that Justice Clarence Thomas, has been labeled, by the democrats as “a black white supremacist”? Does he not have any qualifying attributes, other than being a black white supremacist, to support his position on the bench?

Clarence Thomas is an incredibly qualified jurist. The people calling him a black white supremacist are delusional.

From: BowSniper
06-Jul-22
The President gets to make his choice.... and Biden's woke handlers were going to give him a woman who can't say what a woman is, who seemed to go easy on sentencing pedophiles. That's the world we live in these days.

Would not have been my choice.... but if you get the confirmation votes you get the seat. Maybe even get mobs of angry protesters at your home.... or does that only happen to conservative justices??

From: TGbow
06-Jul-22
Well, if it's ANTIFA or BLM protesting it will be a peaceful protest as described by the media. If it's not a leftist protest it will be described as hateful and/or racist

From: azelkhntr
06-Jul-22
From: bigeasygator05-Jul-22 I looked it up. The Juden star of ID was centuries old. In fact it appeared first in the year 1215 And it was started and used as a badge of shame. It is a badge borne of hatred and bigotry. ///// Was it a badge of shame or was it as a warning?

I'm really confused now though. Seeing that you are now extolling the virtues of Hitler's manifesto and seemingly pro-Nazi, how does that square with your personal views about Putin being justified in invading the Ukraine to squash the Nazi menace there?

//// Of course you're confused. Your thinking is as muddled as the bayou you're drinking from. I'm not praising AH's bio, but I am noticing the interesting similarities between the society there and ours here now. Me pro-nazi? Duder, I am a staunch Libertine; the polar opposite of the totalitarian regimes. (see the outline above). The SMO being carried out by the RF forces has been going on for months now. Apparently in all this time you have not bothered to research exactly why the RF has come to the rescue of the breakaway region of the Donbas. For 8 years beginning in 2014 with the installation of the corrupt regime(s) abetted by our BO and his CIA, the AZOVNAZIS have been terrorizing, killing, raping and kidnapping the ethnic Russians. They killed over 15K fellow Rus Ukrainians who wanted nothing more to do with that and no one cared or heard them. Pr. Putin heard them and was forced to act to save their lives. Get a clue duder. VVtB! KAD!

From: bigswivle
06-Jul-22
Is transphobia racism? Or is it just a fear of mentally unstable people?

From: Brotsky
06-Jul-22
Trump finished what Obama started and Biden is making sure it sticks. JFC with these political threads, SMH. We're F'd.

From: Snag
06-Jul-22

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The great reset is coming. Look into the World Economic Forum. Looks like a villain to me.

From: azelkhntr
06-Jul-22
Anyone noticing the huge land grab in the Netherlands?

From: Catscratch
06-Jul-22
The racist thing to do isn't so much to announce you are going nominate a black woman, but to discount all other qualified candidates due to their race and/or gender.

From: RK
06-Jul-22
Really funny thread

Some posters obviously scored an A+ in sensitivity training

Absolutely hard to believe some of the liberal bowsite Here

From: RK
06-Jul-22
Yea they are. Pathetic

From: blacktail
06-Jul-22

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Liberalism is a mental disorder.

From: gflight
07-Jul-22
You guys have not discussed the difference between equity and equality.

Nor have you distinguished prejudice from racism.

The democrats scream racism so much it has lost it's meaning. Most people see it as the political tool it is.

They try to attach Republicans to racist fringe groups and call black conservatives uncle Tom.

My lifelong democrat father in law was the biggest racist I have ever known. He would say we had to elect that "n" to control the corporations.

Most people who have not been indoctrinated don't really care about race.

Kids of white supremacists often wake up so that is some positive.

However I feel sorry for many blacks that actually believe they can't accomplish stuff because they are told that by the democrats and their parents. They just give up and stay on the democrats plantation.

At some point I think affirmative action will be limited as it is much less necessary now than it once was.

The institutionalized racism there is becoming obsolete. I didn't say it wasn't necessary at one time but it is racism.

From: azelkhntr
07-Jul-22
When they cry White Supremacy what they are really saying is we reject the tenets and accomplishments of Western Civilization. They want the worship of Gaia; the Law of the jungle. Kumbaya.

From: TGbow
07-Jul-22
We as a society have been conditioned to believe government in the private sector makes things better. Affirmative action is discrimination in it's self. Simply acknowledged people's constitutional rights and 90% of the problems will go away. Yes, in a real free market sometimes people of all races will be discriminated against but that's the price of a free market. The problem in the past was the fact that state governments sanctioned laws that were violating people's rights as US citizens. When the government stepped into the private sector things just got worse. If a black man owns a business and he wants to hire blacks only, it should be his choice and visa versa.

07-Jul-22
“Y'all give politicians way too much credit. The notion that there is some global cabal pulling strings like a puppet master is laughable.”

So why does the WORLD Economic Forum exist then?

It’s actually laughable that anyone doesn’t think the new Liberal World Order isn’t exactly what they are trying to achieve! The WEF puts their agenda right out in the open for everyone to see, with numerous videos online, and then when you point it out they call it a conspiracy theory and you a crazy person!

Why do political WORLD leaders travel from all over the world to meet in Switzerland for multi million dollar closed door meetings with heavy police presence and censorship of all non mainstream media. What’s the purpose of the meetings with all of these world leaders?!

And the arguing here with indoctrinated people using terms like transphobic just proves the point. It’s a made up term to divide us, and cause chaos and confusion. (They’ve successfully made the question, “Is it a man or a woman” very confusing and it’s transphobic to even ask? How stupid can you be to fall for it?! Type in, “Can a man get pregnant” into google and read the answer. It’s “Transphobic” to deny the google generated Yes answer!)

Same with all the racism arguing and no clear definition of what it even means. They’ve changed the definition of it in online dictionaries just to add to the confusion! Read the Communist Manifesto and modern Marxism and it’s goals, it all aligns with the goals of the WEF and the New Liberal World Order. Climate Alarmism is also one of it’s most powerful tools to club you into submission.

From: KSflatlander
07-Jul-22
News flash! Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny we’re just appointed the executive board of the Liberal World Order by the tooth fairy. I’m in the know…wink wink

07-Jul-22
So KSflatlander can you answer this question, “Why does the WORLD Economic Forum exist then? I’d love to hear your reason for its existence? There must be an excellent reason for all of those private, fossil fuel burning jets to bring all of these WORLD LEADERS together?

And his name is Klaus Schwab not Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny. There are lots of informative videos online where he outlines, in his own words, his Liberal World Order. One of his chosen young World leaders is my Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau and more than half of his cabinet. Those are his words, not mine.

From: bigeasygator
07-Jul-22
Not surprising. Alex Jones said Santa Claus is besties with Soros.

07-Jul-22
I sure love hearing the intelligent responses to a simple question from two of the smartest people on bowsite!

From: azelkhntr
07-Jul-22

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azelkhntr's embedded Photo

From: TGbow
07-Jul-22
I don't believe in Santa Clause...but I do believe in Pinocchio ...several Pinocchio's on Capital Hill...even one in the white House.

From: KSflatlander
07-Jul-22
Mike- would it really matter if I answered your questions? Hasn’t your mind been made up? Or ate up with right wing nut confirmation bias. It’s amazing if people go look for Bigfoot they seem to find it. By the way I just heard Bigfoot is in as well.

I don’t know what the World Economic Forum is but I’m guessing it has something to do with a group of people/companies discussing the global economy. And yes, whether you want to acknowledge it or not it is a global economy.

From: KSflatlander
07-Jul-22
“You my wheat from my farm when sold does not go to Kroger down the way and make bread sold there? Thanks for the class Economics.“

A conclusion like that is right on par with the rest of your illogic. Aren’t you the oil market expert? Look at all your possessions and report back the percent made in the USA. What about your car/truck? Clothes? Where was your Trump hat and flag made?

“They control much of the politics around the globe, or are trying to.”

I guess they (and you) forgot about the U.S. constitution? You all create this boggy man yet Trump tries to destroy out constitutional foundation (voting) and you justify it and cheer him on. Unfreakingbelievable!

Klaus Schwab is just another person in the world with ideas…some of the dumb and some are pipe dreams. He’s been running the World Economic Forum since 1971. I guess he’s behind on his 50 year world liberal domination plan.

Good grief…your an adult. Some of you are like Scientologists. You believe other 7 billion people in the world are crazy and you’re the only sane one. Just living in a bubble of BS.

Axel- are you related to Trax? You all have to be brothers.

From: 70lbDraw
07-Jul-22
“I sure love hearing the intelligent responses to a simple question from two of the smartest people on bowsite!”

Mike, don’t hold your breath. I’ve asked plenty of simple questions from the left leaners here. Seems the simpler it is, the more difficult it becomes to answer. Much like Ryan just did with his reply. Dana is the same way. I’ve tried to understand them, but…I don’t know if they understand themselves?!

What my old man used to call a ‘perplexing conundrum’.

07-Jul-22

From: TGbow
07-Jul-22
I didn't realize Trump tried to destroy our voting

07-Jul-22

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
“Klaus Schwab is just another person in the world with ideas…”

KSflatlander, Is that your official answer about WEF? Perhaps the attached screenshot will help you? BIgeasy?

Trudeau, the leader of our “Liberal Party” government also announced that by newly created law in Canada all new vehicle sales will be 100% electric by 2035. In a country where EV range is reduced by 40-50% by cold weather. Did I mention he is one of Klaus Schwab’s young global leaders?

Watch some WEF videos and you’ll see Biden right in the front row too. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence, nothing to see…

From: azelkhntr
07-Jul-22
Leaders of the nations of the world etal who owe allegiance to the WEF first. Trudeau CA, Ardern NZ, Zelensky the Ukraine, Macron FR, Rutte NE, Scholz GY, Drago IT, Obama, Gates, Soros, Zuckerberg and many many more. The WEF is an NGO and they have to get the money to continue subverting govts from somewhere. The Ukraine has been very profitable for them.

From: KSflatlander
07-Jul-22

KSflatlander's Link
It seems the International Democrat Union (world conservative/right wing organization) has a similar mission language to World Economic Forum. So strange. I don’t know much about either organization as they has no bearing on my life under the U.S. Constitution.

It’s seems there are many international economic and political organizations. But you right wing nuts got to have a manufactured boogie man…oh, I’m sorry…a cabal. You do understand that “cabal” means secret. Not much of a secret LMAO.

From: Hancock West
07-Jul-22
Typical democrat fashion. If you cant argue the points just say stupid shit & change the subject. Liberal nit whits are just creating a bunch of sensitive, soft ass pussies that handle the basics of life. Can they even give you the definition of a woman? What a joke.

From: RK
07-Jul-22
Throw them out of your camps!!

07-Jul-22
KSflatlander, I would love you to show me some of the radical ideas presented by the IDU.org and those ideas being implemented worldwide?

Because you can sure find them from the WEF and the actual present World leaders who are implementing those ideas, like Trudeau in Canada and in the USA by Biden despite your “Constitutional protection”.

From: KSflatlander
07-Jul-22
“Because you can sure find them from the WEF and the actual present World leaders who are implementing those ideas, like Trudeau in Canada and in the USA by Biden despite your “Constitutional protection”.“

Please provide proof (actual proof) that Trudeau or Biden have implemented anything from the WEF. I’m not talking opinions of it being implemented by by someone. I mean real proof. And be specific.

From: Beendare
07-Jul-22
Good luck arguing with these liberal progressives. If they cannot us the line, "But what about Trump"....they have nothing

I do know one thing. These folks are not self starters. They need reliance on someone else...or gov handouts. Many are gov employees or have gov reliant jobs. They have no idea what its like to own your own business...and run it with the liberal governments making it difficult at every turn.

We provide jobs...........and they want income equality.

.

From: azelkhntr
07-Jul-22
Liberal World Logic. slow pedo joe has tapped heavily into the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve to ease the prices at the pump. He apparently forgot to tell US that it was being sold to India, China and Italy. I guess to ease the pain at their pumps. Yes, we sell our SPR to our enemy China. They get the break, and we get it broke off in our a$$. KAD!

From: Old Bow
07-Jul-22

 Old Bow 's embedded Photo
 Old Bow 's embedded Photo

From: bigeasygator
07-Jul-22
I sure love hearing the intelligent responses to a simple question from two of the smartest people on bowsite!

Newsflash: the most powerful people from the public and private sector have met since modern civilization has been a thing.

Newsflash: what these people discuss doesn’t change the Constitution under which our countries are run.

Also Newsflash: if you think you can get a room of people together, especially a roomful of egos, and they’re all going to agree on everything…well, you’re wrong.

Groups like the WEC are an opportunity for people to come together to talk about what is important to them, and for people to listen and learn from that and for them to do what they please with that info. It’s literally no more complicated than that.

From: KSflatlander
07-Jul-22
I still can’t stop laughing thinking about Shawn/Dano/HH checking his Trump hat and flag tags to see where they are made. LMAO.

“Cant wait to hear there excuses come Nov.”

I have a strange feeling that moderates and independents (especially women) won’t be voting right wing for a while. The dog caught the bus and it’s going to hurt. Maybe not tomorrow but it’s going to an impact in the future.

Cyber ninjas…cyber ninjas. Rah rah rah

From: azelkhntr
07-Jul-22
I almost didn't notice that our USDA has purchased an arsenal of Glocks, body armor and .40 Cal. ammo. Guess the night of the killer tomatoes can't be far off eh? They're getting ready for the full court press against US. Are you ready?

From: Treeline
08-Jul-22
Interesting things happening over the pond in merry old…. Seems as though Boris and a huge contingent that were pushing Covid Tyranny are out…

Wondering how long till those in power on this side of the pond start dropping like flies…

From: KSflatlander
08-Jul-22
“Brah”

Who the hell says this in their 60s.

“Yer blowin the wrong dice fella”

No thanks Shawn. I’m married

This tread definitely brought the BS right wing nuts out. Kind of like it was designed to. All the nut job stars of the Bowsite are here. You are so deep in your alt reality that delusional doesn’t touch it.

Keep looking for Bigfoot and I’m confident you will find signs of him everywhere you look in every forest…every time. But yet the physical evidence will elude you because Bigfoot isn’t real.

From: TGbow
08-Jul-22
How are the countries doing that have adopted Marxism, Communism, Racism, ect.

I know the leftist and the NeoCons keep searching for that utopia but it just doesn't seem to pan out...after 100 plus yrs to reflect back on.

I guess some people just keep hoping to make that "square wheel" function some how.

From: Mike B
08-Jul-22
Is this the new version of the old Community Forum?

Seems like it.

From: bigeasygator
08-Jul-22
Cant wait to hear there excuses come Nov.

Excuses? My prediction is the House and Senate swing back to the Republicans, which would be fantastic. I’m all for gridlock. Happy to keep either party from mucking things up.

From: TGbow
08-Jul-22
Spot on Axel

From: 2Wild Bill
08-Jul-22
"the Constitution is the only thing we have protecting us."

The Constitution of the United States.....it's only keepers, the people. - George Washington

"We were warned by our founders about the need for eternal vigilance. Now we must confront our dereliction. Directly addressing our current plight is the first step toward righting our ship of state. The nation needs to regain the ideals at its founding- the world needs us to achieve this. Only the people can restore American ideals. Washington politicians have failed us and will continue to do so. As a republic, we were always warned about trading our liberties for security. Now We the People must assert our rightful sovereignty under the Constitution and rebalance our badly unbalanced federal government. No one can save us but ourselves." - former U.S. Senator from Oklahoma, Tom A. Coburn, M.D., from "Smashing the DC Monopoly"

So what have YOU, the posters on this thread, DONE, other than pontificate your positions and whine over yesterdays news? Restoring freedom in America means taking action. The Sons of Liberty not only informed fellow Americans of the state of their affairs, but prescribed actions that motivated more and more Americans to take up the cause of freedom for all. The nation's Constitution was formed with a last minute idea that was intended to restore the balance of power with a means for "We the People" to create and implement change without "permission" from established branches of federal government. There are many gun owners who think the Second Amendment is the only means to thwart tyrany, but that is not true. Two years before there was a Second Amendment and directly addressing the concern of a tyranical federal government, George Mason shook up the convention by telling them that they omitted a means for the people to slap down federal tyrany. " Are we so naive to believe that a tyranical federal government that takes power from the people will give it back?" The importance and awfulness of that possibility and their omission of a provision in the Constituition to correct such a situation, left them dumbstruck. The extensive period of silence after Mason spoke was noted by James Madison as he recorded the proceedings. Finally Elbridge Gerry proposed a solution in adding wording to Article V that endorsed a convention of states, when endorsed by two thirds of states, to propose new amendments and submit them to the states for ratification by three quarters of the states. A peaceful and Constitutional plan for the people to exercise a legitimate resistance to a tyranical federal government. The convention was marked by extensive debate, except for this matter, which produced none, and the vote was unanimous to include the provision for the people.

What's your plan?

This year the Convention of States project grew in number to over half the 34 states needed to call a convention. The limited convention is for three issues, term limits for federal employees (not just elected offices), stop the excessive spending with national debt creation and reign in the overreach of the federal government (such as was done by the recent Supreme Court decision limiting the EPA case with West Virginia).

This plan is in progress and needs patriotic volunteers to accomplish the goal of a restoration of America to founding principles. There are over five million supporters in all fifty states working to grow our number of grass root support from We the People. You do not have a good enough reason to disregard the least of your duty to sign the petition for your state.

https://conventionofstates.com/

If you truely believe the Constitution is the only thing protecting us, then use the provision in Article V and sign the petition which was the method included by the founders who foresaw the tyrany in our day. Actions speak louder than words.

From: 2Wild Bill
08-Jul-22
" just another piece of the puzzle"

Well bless your heart for commending me. IMHO, it speaks to me that you don't know/understand your role in our national government.

There is nothing puzzling about what I posted, either you DO something or nothing, and I am of the opinion that some of the loudest complainers are nothing more than that, pitiful individuals.

I posted an opportunity to take meaningful action in resisting national tyrany by Constitutional means, or don't you see it that way?

From: azelkhntr
08-Jul-22
RIP and GOD Bless ex-PM Shinzo Abe of Japan. A true patriot and guardian of his people, country and culture.

From: 2Wild Bill
08-Jul-22
Axel,

Have you visited the site and signed the petition?

From: 2Wild Bill
08-Jul-22
Axel, "I recommend it to everyone" Thank you, I would hope everyone DOES likewise.

From: LBshooter
08-Jul-22
Safe guards are built into the system and we also have a election comming up. If our democratic memebers vote republican that would be a great start to stopping this madness.

From: azelkhntr
09-Jul-22

azelkhntr's embedded Photo
azelkhntr's embedded Photo
azelkhntr's embedded Photo
azelkhntr's embedded Photo
Know the enemy.

From: azelkhntr
09-Jul-22
The Netherlands, Germany, Poland and Italy have had enough as well. Everyone here should know where their local marxist demos live. Esp their mayors, reps and senators.

09-Jul-22

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
WEF stands for WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM otherwise known as Liberal World Order that Brian Deese in the Biden administration was referring to.
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
WEF stands for WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM otherwise known as Liberal World Order that Brian Deese in the Biden administration was referring to.
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mark Rutte happens to be the Prime Minister of the Netherlands for any liberals in denial of the Liberal World Order
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mark Rutte happens to be the Prime Minister of the Netherlands for any liberals in denial of the Liberal World Order
Nothing to see here, no Liberal World Order. Climate Alarmism clubbing the peasants into submission!

From: Old Bow
09-Jul-22
People don’t realize that we are in a war right now !

From: TGbow
09-Jul-22
I'm afraid it will be too late by the time a lot of people see it...don't know how you could miss it.

From: azelkhntr
09-Jul-22
It began in earnest with the release of the coof. Desperation is setting in. Now is when it will begin to get dangerous. Be prepared to leave the fat, weak and stupid behind to fend for themselves. GOD, Family, Country not gubment.

From: Old Bow
09-Jul-22
People don’t realize that we are in a war right now !

From: 2Wild Bill
09-Jul-22
azelkhntr, "Be prepared to leave the fat, weak and stupid behind to fend for themselves."

That's an un-American attitude. Your fear betrays your lack of love for fellow Americans. "I regret that I have but only one life to give for my country" Twenty one year old Nathan Hale didn't give his life for only the strong. With your "one life", run scared is all you are prepared to DO?

"Desperation is setting in", yes, and yours is apparent.

From: Woods Walker
10-Jul-22
It comes down to this....if you are an enemy of the Constitution and what it stands for, then you are MY enemy. It's real simple; if we no longer have a working Constitution that applies equally to EVERYONE and a government that abides by it, then we no longer have a country.

It's really that simple.

From: azelkhntr
10-Jul-22
^^^^^^ Nailed it ^^^^^^

From: TGbow
10-Jul-22
Nailed in on the head Lou!

From: fuzzy
10-Jul-22
We fought a four year war 1861 thru 1865 to preserve the Constitution. We lost. Been downhill ever since.

From: 2Wild Bill
10-Jul-22
fuzzy,

Constitution of the Confederate States, yeah that's what happened, we know. Same Democrats, different age now.

From: TGbow
10-Jul-22
Fuzzy, that's a prime example of what happens when tyrants rule. Federal government has grown to the point it's absolutely rediculous

From: spike78
10-Jul-22
Apparently the government is ready for war after buying all that ammo for the Dept of Agriculture and IRS.

From: azelkhntr
11-Jul-22
From: 2Wild Bill09-Jul-22Private Reply azelkhntr, "Be prepared to leave the fat, weak and stupid behind to fend for themselves." That's an un-American attitude. Your fear betrays your lack of love for fellow Americans. "I regret that I have but only one life to give for my country" "Desperation is setting in", yes, and yours is apparent.

You misunderstand. Its nothing to do with love. Its a matter of practicality.

From: azelkhntr
11-Jul-22
I predict the govt of the Netherlands wont last out the week.

From: bigeasygator
11-Jul-22
I predict it will. Let's see who's right in a week.

From: Brotsky
11-Jul-22
If we're in a war then why aren't you guys fighting yet? Which of your neighbors that voted for this government are you going to fight first?

From: bigeasygator
11-Jul-22
In case you missed it, we are no longer a dual listed company, gave up the "Royal Dutch" designation, and moved our headquarters to London - largely due to the politics in the Netherlands. I don't know what azelkhunter even means by "the government...won't last out the week," but I will go on record as betting whatever it is he means, he'll be wrong and that nothing will change in a week.

From: azelkhntr
11-Jul-22
^^^^^ betting what exactly? Rutte will be out in a week.

From: 2Wild Bill
11-Jul-22
" Its a matter of practicality."

Yes, you are scared and already out the door in flight away from the problem.

If you read my previous posts, there is a project given to us by the founders specifically for the purpose of combatting tyrany. The least you could do is sign the petition, the fight back is in propagating the cause and standing with those who intend to fight. https://conventionofstates.com/

From: azelkhntr
11-Jul-22
I signed the C of S petition long ago when it first came forth. You're just catching up.

From: 2Wild Bill
11-Jul-22
azelkhntr, "I signed the C of S petition long ago when it first came forth." Since you signed it, shouldn't you promote it rather than the fearmongering you've been pushing in this thread?

The project is over half way to the 34 states needed to call the convention. There is a Convention of States team in every state. Are you on the team in your state? Why not?

From: azelkhntr
11-Jul-22
^^^^^ I signed the petition, years ago. I guess I neglected to read the fine print where it came with all those extra qualifiers. My bad.

From: gflight
12-Jul-22
Please provide proof (actual proof) that Trudeau or Biden have implemented anything from the WEF. I’m not talking opinions of it being implemented by by someone. I mean real proof. And be specific.

Isn't this exactly what we are talking about?

Treadau is on record for implementation of nitrogen thing with farmers. Denmark, Poland, an Sri Lanka in revolt because of this WEF recommendation.

From: gflight
12-Jul-22
No way do I want a convention of states...

From: KSflatlander
12-Jul-22
“Treadau is on record for implementation of nitrogen thing with farmers. Denmark, Poland, an Sri Lanka in revolt because of this WEF recommendation.“

What nitrogen thing? What Canadian law was implemented? What WEF policy involving nitrogen? What does Demark, Poland, and Sri Lanka have to do with Trudeau or Biden and the WEF?

Again be specific.

12-Jul-22
KSflatlander, why don’t you educate yourself with the WEF, Net Zero by 2030 agenda and what they are currently doing today in the Netherlands and making fertilizer shortages and highly increased costs of it in Canada?

12-Jul-22

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
This is from our soon to be Canadian Conservative Party leader, Pierre Poilievre to Trudeau.
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This is from our soon to be Canadian Conservative Party leader, Pierre Poilievre to Trudeau.
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This is from the Netherlands
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This is from the Netherlands
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Netherlands
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Netherlands
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Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo

12-Jul-22

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
And why do you think Germany is so screwed right now, relying on Russia to supply them with natural gas? They been pursuing an idiotic, fake “green” energy policy for years, even getting rid of nuclear. They are now being forced to ramp up coal burning! They may get completely cut off from Russian gas this winter!!

All in pursuit of the Liberal World Order championed by the World Economic Forum. It can’t get anymore straight forward than that…

12-Jul-22
And here is the American one in case you skipped over the opening post on this thread.

"National Economic Council director Brian Deese was asked by anchor Victor Blackwell: “What do you say to those families who say, ‘Listen, we can’t afford to pay $4.85 a gallon for months, if not years. This is just not sustainable’?”

“What you heard from the president today was a clear articulation of the stakes,” Deese answered. “This is about the future of the liberal world order and we have to stand firm."

12-Jul-22

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
And even a picture for you…
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
And even a picture for you…

From: KSflatlander
12-Jul-22

KSflatlander's Link
You can post strawman articles from questionable sources all you want but you still didn’t provide proof of your accusation.

Maybe you should take your own advice and educate yourself.

From: ohiohunter
12-Jul-22
Someone please ring the bell, I wanna play cowboys and libs!

From: gflight
13-Jul-22
Where did these Countries get the blueprint their following?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/07/future-nature-business-action-agenda-blueprint-climate-change-biodiversity-loss/

Mainstream news from 2020 forward has been treadau.

Liberals never think of the fallout from their actions. Sri Lanka is the perfect example of what was supposed to be the perfect model by 2025.

People there have a queue to walk through the president's house and see how he lived compared to how he was forcing them to live. Per Reuters....

From: spike78
13-Jul-22
Nature minister Christianne van der Wal has given provinces a year to come up with detailed plans aiming at halving emissions of ammonia and nitrogen oxide by 2030. She has said some farmers will inevitably have to give up their business, either voluntarily or through compulsory purchase, in order to comply with a ruling by the Council of State that the Netherlands was breaching European nature conservation laws.

Read more at DutchNews.nl:

From: bigeasygator
13-Jul-22

bigeasygator's embedded Photo
bigeasygator's embedded Photo
You can post strawman articles from questionable sources all you want but you still didn’t provide proof of your accusation.

They WEF is out of control, KS. They got the Donald too.

From: BowSniper
13-Jul-22

BowSniper's Link
Trump's speech transcript from World Economic Forum....

From: gflight
13-Jul-22

gflight's embedded Photo
gflight's embedded Photo

From: gflight
13-Jul-22
I was surprised "NOT" that Trump was bragging...

Bet you their panties were in a wad because nothing followed their blueprint...

Glad they had to sit through that speech...

From: jjs
13-Jul-22
To the liberals on here, I have one question: name one positive action that the DNC has taken that hasn't effected this country in a positive economical, civil liberties and global security of this country. I'll make it very simple is this country better now than the previous administration? Have had it.

From: bigeasygator
13-Jul-22
Trump's speech transcript from World Economic Forum....

That's my point, BowSniper. Posting a picture of someone in front of a WEF proves nothing. And to suggest that everyone partnering with the WEF or attending one of their meetings all think, act, and feel the same is laughable.

From: TGbow
13-Jul-22
Whether you are a Democrat or Republican or Independent...leftism, is contradictory to our US Constitution. That includes what the leftist/NeoCons stand for. So, when anyone supports those types of systems you are supporting the downfall of our nation and abolishing what's left of the Constitution. Make all the excuses you want but that's the way the wheel turns and we have over 100 years to reflect on to prove it.

From: BowSniper
13-Jul-22
I think the devout liberals here believe things aren't all that bad, and they would vote for Biden again tomorrow if the alternative was Trump.

But aside from simply hating Trump, if there something good you can say about Biden's accomplishments thus far??

From: TGbow
13-Jul-22
Biden has done a wonderful job...if you support Marxism.

From: spike78
13-Jul-22
Nature minister Christianne van der Wal has given provinces a year to come up with detailed plans aiming at halving emissions of ammonia and nitrogen oxide by 2030. She has said some farmers will inevitably have to give up their business, either voluntarily or through compulsory purchase, in order to comply with a ruling by the Council of State that the Netherlands was breaching European nature conservation laws.

Read more at DutchNews.nl:

From: 2Wild Bill
13-Jul-22
"The guiding principle that a policy of freedom for the individual is the only truely progressive policy remains as true today as it was in the nineteenth century."

Collectivist-socialist governments are regressive, no better than a king/emperor/tyrant.

13-Jul-22
To get back on track, would any of you liberals want to explain the original statement by Deese about high gasoline prices. What did he mean by it?

Here it is again:

“What you heard from the president today was a clear articulation of the stakes,” Deese answered. “This is about the future of the liberal world order and we have to stand firm."

From: bigeasygator
13-Jul-22

bigeasygator's Link
To get back on track, would any of you liberals want to explain the original statement by Deese about high gasoline prices. What did he mean by it?

The term liberal world order is a decades old term. It's been used by multiple Presidents, including Republicans. It is a reference to the order established on the international stage post-WWII, through the Cold War, and to the current present day, one in which the US plays a central role as the world's greatest super power.

It is based on liberal ideals like open and free trade, democratic governance, human rights, collective security (UN, NATO), international institutions (like the World Bank, WHO, IMF, WTO), and the rule of law. It is an ideological order shared and championed by most Western countries; it is currently under threat by non-Western and non-liberal countries (China, Russia) as they see their influence and power grow.

There is plenty of information out there on what the "liberal world order" is and what Deese was referencing. It has nothing to do with North American political parties, global cabals, or pushing a "green" agenda. It has everything to do with the US's role on the world stage and how we deal with those that seek to upset it.

From: TGbow
13-Jul-22
Liberal World order is not the correct term for today. Today, they are Leftist, Marxist, Facist, ect.

From: Will
13-Jul-22
BEG nailed that last post (havent read the whole thread).

My only addition is that it's also under threat from tribalism and nationalism. If you are reading this, you are benefiting from the liberal world order, literally your entire life has, whether you want to admit that or not. It's lead to the stability globally which has fostered innovation and development across all spectrums of life.

Conservative, does not = bad. Liberal, does not = bad. Those words dont = good either. But this seems a weird hill to battle over (the concept of their being a liberal world order of which we have been a part of since WW2 at least).

From: bigeasygator
13-Jul-22
You're spot on, Will. This used to be something that there was little to no disagreement of in this country. Regardless of your party affiliation, there was little question to the support of the liberal world order and few questioned the importance of our role as leader of this order.

But it is certainly under threat domestically from those that think that "America First" should entail us vacating this role. Russian and China are chomping at the bit to step in.

From: TGbow
13-Jul-22
Well, I guess I have missed it then. I haven't seen the Marxist, Socialist, Communist countries that have prospered. This movement today is not Liberal..it's leftist/Marxist basically. It's happening right here in this country...defunding the police, ect, to create chaos so they can the move in and take control. One of the many Marxist tactics. America has not been perfect but America has been great because we were formed as a Republic and leftism is absolutely in opposition to a Republic. I've George Bush spoke of the New World Order...yes, Republicans have been involved in this also contrary to what some may think. We don't have to be isolationist as a nation but we should be self sufficient.

Those that believe in Big Government Utopias are simply blinded, ignorant or decieved. We can't blame it all on Democrats or Republicans because they both are guilty of tearing down our nation, and it didn't just start 20 yrs ago.

From: Shaft2Long
13-Jul-22
I think what’s being referenced as liberal world order by today Democratic Party has a different meaning than what you are describing and they’re hiding behind a familiar phrase.

From: bigeasygator
13-Jul-22
Well, I guess I have missed it then. I haven't seen the Marxist, Socialist, Communist countries that have prospered. This movement today is not Liberal..it's leftist/Marxist basically.

The biggest irony is that those that are up in arms about the liberal world order are actually advocating for communism, Marxism, and socialism.

From: bigeasygator
13-Jul-22
I think what’s being referenced as liberal world order by today Democratic Party has a different meaning than what you are describing and they’re hiding behind a familiar phrase.

And I think if people looked at the whole Deese quote and the context around the question that was asked, they would see they are 100% talking about the liberal world order I just described.

To paraphrase, Biden was asked how long should Americans pay high gas prices. He said as long as it takes to stop Russia. Deese was referencing that response. It had nothing to do with a green agenda or animosity towards the oil industry and everything to do with how we respond to Russia.

From: bigswivle
13-Jul-22

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This is funny. Sorry to crash y’all’s thread
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This is funny. Sorry to crash y’all’s thread

From: RK
13-Jul-22
Golf Clap for sure ! Remarkable responses

From: TGbow
13-Jul-22
I think you may be confused as to what Communism and Marxism is.

Everything Biden and his cronies have done in the last 2 yrs has been straight out of the Marxist handbook...defunding the police, gun control,ect.

He stated before he was elected what he was going to do and yet people were dumb enough to vote for him. A true Liberal is more of a Libertarian minded individual..as far as the original meaning. The Neo Cons and Leftist have the same goal in mind, they are just of different opinions of how to get there.

The best thing the government could ever do for the US economy is to get the hell out of the private sector.

Biden wants this chaos, they want to take over the oil companies. You would have to be an idiot to not see he is determined to usher in the Marxist agenda.

From: spike78
13-Jul-22
I’m guessing all the liberals on here believe it when Biden says it’s Putins Tax hike. How pathetic is it when you announce that you are doing away with fossil fuels and then when you do on your first day in office you then blame Putin for it instead of sticking to your guns when your approval rating goes down. All these United Nation countries are turning socialist ie. Australia, UK, Germany, New Zealand, Canada, etc. Wake up and smell the coffee. You think green energy is going to be possible? I guess we will wait and see.

From: spike78
13-Jul-22
One thing about EV’s I’d like to know about is how are all the low income people going to afford them? You know the people the democrats supposedly care about. I’d really like to know how their will be chargers all along the streets and at every apartment building for these people? Any idea? I guess it’s a nice dream if your rich enough to be able to afford a 60-100k car and have a station at your 600k or multi million dollar home but what about the 90% of people who are not as well off? These socialists are going to make all of the middle class into lower class while we pay for their dream. I’m also guessing farming will be a thing of the past but hey at least we will have Bill Gates fake meat and algae salad. It wouldn’t surprise me if hunting was no longer allowed either. You guys might want to watch out what Utopia you wish for.

From: TGbow
13-Jul-22
Brad, they know the green energy won't work. ...that's when they move in and "save the day". I just don't see how anyone couldn't see it. Biden made it plain what he wanted to do. But...it's not his fault you know. .it's Putin and the oil companies and all those folks that still believe in freedom.

I just hope the Republicans are smart enough to back somebody in the next election that's not a Republicrats/Bushite big government candidate. Assuming we still have a country.

My Dad is 93 yrs old and he told me the other day that even though there have been some things that have happened for the good in America in the last 75 yrs, he said he sees us losing our nation to Marxist tyrants. He has always been a real conservative as long as I can remember, but he said JFK wouldn't even be welcomed in the Republican party today. In his words " lot of people want something for nothing and they are willing to give up their freedom for what they think is security".

From: spike78
13-Jul-22

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Ok Biden lovers maybe Tucker can explain this better with real stories happening around the world.

From: spike78
13-Jul-22
TG I don’t even hear Republicans saying a word. This entire Government needs to go. We have a lying corrupt President, a useless VP, a beyond old insider trading Speaker, Press Secretary that won’t answer a question like “ why are we giving away oil reserves to China”? Wtf is going on?

From: Woods Walker
13-Jul-22
Antique Tool Still In Use Today....... Tobacco Smoke Enema Kit (1750s – 1810s).

The tobacco enema was used to infuse tobacco smoke into a patient's rectum for various medical purposes, but primarily the resuscitation of drowning victims.

A rectal tube inserted into the anus was connected to a fumigator and bellows that forced the smoke into the rectum. The warmth of the smoke was thought to promote respiration.

Doubts about the credibility of tobacco enemas led to the popular phrase "blowing smoke up your ass."

If you are in the USA, you are most likely aware that this odd tool is still heavily used by the Liberal government today. It is more commonly known as the Biden Trumpet.

From: D.O.D.
13-Jul-22
Wondering why Bowsite moderator allows this shit on the site? A BOWSITE?

From: ohiohunter
13-Jul-22
Sigh

From: shep
13-Jul-22
RELAX!! Your post Exactly What the Inquiry About, Settle Down

From: spike78
14-Jul-22
D.O.D what you don’t think this is all relevant to bows and hunting? High gas prices driving to your shoots and hunting spots, broadheads and equipment going up due to inflation, supply chain issues putting your nice new bow on hold, what kind of lame EV pickup truck should I buy to hunt in, damn my deer grain is twice the cost it was, etc. But your right no relevance at all. I forgot the big one, wtf they turned my hunting spot into a solar field!

From: 2Wild Bill
14-Jul-22
"Wondering why Bowsite moderator allows this shit on the site? A BOWSITE?"

I guess you are just learning about who you share your sport with, 'bout time.

From: spike78
14-Jul-22
I just read CA will no longer allow natural gas lol. Can’t wait to see how well that works for them.

From: bigeasygator
14-Jul-22
THIS is the liberal world order, a organization that must destroy the Constitution one piece at a time in order to succeed

It is literally none of what you posted. You are conflating terms that essentially have little meaning now because of how bastardized they are. It's also hard to generate the rage, anger, and hate that too many of you display when you understand that "liberal world order" essentially equals "Western democracy." And you want to talk about deflection lol

For anyone that wants to educate themselves on the term "liberal world order," here are plenty of links.

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, private property and a market economy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

In international relations, the liberal international order describes a set of global, rule-based, structured relationships based on political liberalism, economic liberalism and liberal internationalism since the late 1940s. More specifically, it entails international cooperation through multilateral institutions (like the United Nations, World Trade Organization and International Monetary Fund) and is constituted by human equality (freedom, rule of law and human rights), open markets, security cooperation, promotion of liberal democracy, and monetary cooperation. The order was established in the aftermath of World War II, led in large part by the United States. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_international_order

Vladimir Putin’s war on Ukraine has given the world’s democrats a renewed sense of unity and purpose. Galvanized by a sense of common threat and existential peril, Western democracies have imposed biting sanctions on Russia, boosted weapons and aid shipments to Ukraine, and increased military spending dramatically. This vigorous and unified response from Western democracies contrasts their muted replies to the past decade of democratic malaise, which was characterized by serious—though slow and surreptitious—authoritarian attacks. The Russian invasion may also weaken the emerging “authoritarian international” as the conflict has proved far more difficult and costly to Russia than expected. Whether the invasion marks a turning point for the liberal world order will depend in part on whether the world’s democrats can maintain solidarity through the crisis. https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/the-rebirth-of-the-liberal-world-order/

The liberal world order established in the aftermath of World War II may be coming to an end, challenged by forces both without and within. The external challenges come from the ambition of dissatisfied large and medium-size powers to overturn the existing strategic order dominated by the United States and its allies and partners. Their aim is to gain hegemony in their respective regions. China and Russia pose the greatest challenges to the world order because of their relative military, economic, and political power and their evident willingness to use it, which makes them significant players in world politics and, just as important, because the regions where they seek strategic hegemony—Asia and Europe—historically have been critical to global peace and stability. https://www.brookings.edu/research/the-twilight-of-the-liberal-world-order/

During a news conference at the close of the NATO summit on June 30 in Madrid, a reporter asked President Joe Biden “how long is it fair to expect American drivers and drivers around the world” to pay high gasoline prices due to the war in Ukraine. Biden responded, “[a]s long it takes so Russia cannot, in fact, defeat Ukraine and move beyond Ukraine.”

Brian Deese, director of the National Economic Council, appeared in an interview with CNN’s Victor Blackwell that same day.

Blackwell played a video of Biden’s comments from the NATO news conference. He asked Deese what he would say to American families who can’t afford high gasoline prices for months or even years to come if the war in Ukraine were to last as long as some experts predict. In response, Deese used the term “liberal world order.”

Deese, June 30: Well, what’s heard from the president today was a clear articulation of the stakes. This is about the future of the liberal world order and we have to stand firm. But at the same time what I’d say to that family and to Americans across the country is you have a present administration that is going to do everything in its power to blunt those price increases and bring those prices down.

Deese appeared to use the decades-old terminology to describe the international world order that was created after World War II, and the current unified effort to prevent Russia from moving beyond Ukraine. https://www.factcheck.org/2022/07/liberal-world-order-is-decades-old-term-misinterpreted-by-social-media-posts/

From: BowSniper
14-Jul-22
I guess if they said it was a globalist strategy to spread euro-socialist governance throughout the world, by Marxist racial/economic class warfare, to enslave the free people of the world through debt poverty and government dependence.... it would be a tougher sell.

From: TGbow
14-Jul-22
BEG, the definition of Liberal that you posted is the total opposite of what the leftist are wanting. I agree that "Liberal" does not describe what the leftist are trying to push for. They want total control and you must agree with them..that's not Liberal. Leftist and Neo Conservatives want anything but freedom for US citizens.

From: mgmicky
14-Jul-22
https://vimeo.com/44568228

Some scenes in this video look a lot like the 2020 “peaceful” prostests

From: bigeasygator
14-Jul-22
I guess if they said it was a globalist strategy to spread euro-socialist governance throughout the world, by Marxist racial/economic class warfare, to enslave the free people of the world through debt poverty and government dependence.... it would be a tougher sell.

Sure would. But again, that's not what it is. Even members of the Trump administration are on record as supporting the order. Plenty of quotes from Patrick Shanahan on upholding the liberal world order (aka liberal international order aka rules-based international order).

"The Department is strengthening and evolving U.S. Alliances and Partnerships into a networked security architecture to uphold the international rules-based order. The Department also continues to cultivate intra-Asian security relationships capable of deterring aggression, maintaining stability, and ensuring free access to common domains."

“Perhaps the greatest long-term threat to the vital interests of states across this region comes from actors who seek to undermine, rather than uphold, the rules-based international order."

“We will not accept policies or actions that threaten or undermine the rules-based international order – an order that benefits all nations. We are committed to defending and enhancing these shared values.”

From: bigeasygator
14-Jul-22
BEG, the definition of Liberal that you posted is the total opposite of what the leftist are wanting. I agree that "Liberal" does not describe what the leftist are trying to push for. They want total control and you must agree with them..that's not Liberal. Leftist and Neo Conservatives want anything but freedom for US citizens.

That's my point about these terms being bastardized, TG. Liberal in the term "liberal world order" shouldn't be confused with the term "liberal" applied to left-leaning political ideologues in the USA. It is in reference to liberalism and counter to the tenets of communism, socialism, authoritarianism, etc.

From: gflight
14-Jul-22
Libertarian is a classical liberal today. Freedom loving people in the past were liberals.

Today's democrats are actually authoritarian progressives who have corrupted the term liberal to sound as if they support freedom and democracy.

Listen to Trudeau Castro or the Gabbin Newslome commercial and you will understand what I'm saying.

With democrats words mean the opposite and it allows people to understand Forced restrictions on nitrogen are freedom.

From: spike78
14-Jul-22
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, private property and a market economy. Ha Ya sure LMFAO. Liberalism is the EXACT OPPOSITE of this! Nice try KS

From: gflight
14-Jul-22
Russian and China are chomping at the bit to step in.

?

Biden has made it us against them by actively laundering money and giving weapons to Ukraine.

His foreign policy has set us back on the world stage even more than trumps tariffs did.

From: TGbow
14-Jul-22
I agree flight.

From: bigeasygator
14-Jul-22
Liberalism is the EXACT OPPOSITE of this! Nice try KS

No, it isn't. Again, it is a function of people conflating terms and being loose with words to the point that they have no consistent meaning. Again, the concept of the "liberal world order" (a term used for decades by both Republican and Democratic administrations) was built on the idea of classic liberalism. The concept of liberalism is centuries old, centered on the belief in freedom, equality, democracy and human rights and was the foundation on which the principle of "consent of the governed" was based. Those opposed to the liberal world order from a geopolitical perspective - namely Russia and China - are a direct threat to those ideals.

From: gflight
14-Jul-22
Everyone nowadays calls Democrats liberals but they're not.

Democrats are a strange lot and love to corrupt/overuse words.

Example... Everything with the democrats nowadays is "racist" to the point it has no meaning.

They want equity not equality, social collectivism not individual liberty, and socialism not capitalism.

Quite the opposite of what I call a classical liberal...

From: azelkhntr
14-Jul-22
Another WEF tool has bit the dust. PM Draghi of Italy resigns.

From: TGbow
14-Jul-22
Just like the word Conservative..doesn't mean what it once meant.

Today, we have these big government politicians calling themselves conservatives..they want to conserve big government same as the leftist

From: azelkhntr
14-Jul-22
The Armenians are now hunting down their politicians in the streets ala Sri Lanka.

From: BowSniper
14-Jul-22
The term "liberal world order" shouldn't be confused with the term "rules based international order". That right there is some word-play gymnastics and general wishful thinking.... by a liberal.

From: bigeasygator
14-Jul-22
The term "liberal world order" shouldn't be confused with the term "rules based international order". That right there is some word-play gymnastics and general wishful thinking.... by a liberal.

What’s funny is that the term liberal world order has meant one thing for decades and now all of a sudden it’s something different because people don’t like the misused/misunderstood/misapplied term liberal.

The liberal world order has been the way of the world for the last 70 years. The terms liberal world order/rules based world order/liberal international order/etc all reference the same thing - the system of security, trade, and law that has established the order in the world, with the US playing the central role in these conventions. It is not gymnastics and there are ample publications/documentation/resources out there that go into great detail around the history of the term.

The United States has long talked about the “liberal international order” or the “rules-based order” (the two terms are more or less interchangeable). Academics usually think of an international order as centering on a set of institutions and rules. The key institutions of the liberal international order are NATO and the U.S.-Japan alliance, the World Trade Organization and the other open-trade institutions, and the United Nations. Since the end of the Cold War, some people have seen the liberal international order as involving other institutions and obligations, including the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), the need to reduce climate change and the nuclear nonproliferation regime. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/28/g-is-discussing-international-liberal-order-thats-bad-place-start-debate/

Let’s start with the “liberal” part of the liberal world order. Liberalism here does not refer to free sex, legalized marijuana or other social trends that have become part of the platform of modern liberals. Instead, it refers to the liberalism that emerged from the French Revolution. Loosely defined, these first liberals — classical liberals — believed in transparent, accountable government and free trade. They also disliked war. Some precepts of this liberalism, such as representative government, go back even further. As early as the 15th century, well before Edmund Burke hit the scene, men like Sir John Fortescue and John Seldon were extolling the virtues of English constitutionalism. The liberal world order they and others helped build was one in which self-government and all it stands for — property rights, due process of law, universal suffrage — reign supreme over the desires of autocrats and their imperial and kleptocratic tendencies. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/12/27/donald-trump-and-the-end-of-the-liberal-world-order/

From: azelkhntr
14-Jul-22

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From: Will tell
14-Jul-22
Sure a lot of experts on here. I shot better than usual today. My Recurve was being very kind out to 35 yards. Sorry, back to your political rants. : )

From: ohiohunter
14-Jul-22
Chaos precedes reform. BEG is more confused than a tranny deciding which restroom to use. Keep referencing literary terms regardless of what is unfolding before your eyes.

From: bigeasygator
14-Jul-22
Super insightful, ohiohunter.

From: ohiohunter
14-Jul-22
Glad I could help

From: azelkhntr
14-Jul-22

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I'm not sure what's going on but its massive.

From: Shaft2Long
14-Jul-22
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program." - Norman Thomas.

Looking at the 10 pillars of communism you see the US has adopted all of them.

Reading the green new deal you understand it is literally the the 10 pillars and put government in complete control of energy, housing, education, transportation and health care.

Affirmatively Forwarding Fair Housing is literally the “elimination of town and country.” This comes right out of the communist manifesto. This is the “liberal world order” that we are facing. Try dodging it all you want its what it is.

We’ve given what? 50 billion to defend the Ukraine national sovereignty against Russia while totally undermining our own. Aren’t we using Russia to negotiate getting Iran back into a nuclear agreement o our behalf?

Name one thing Biden has done that isn’t Pro China. Name one thing this admin has done that has made the US and it’s citizens stronger, safer and more prosperous home or abroad.

We are being sold out for your sorry ass liberal world order.

From: RK
14-Jul-22
Damn Liberals and those that are that think they are not

From: scentman
14-Jul-22
I really hate to admit this but Bowsite has now entered " The Twighlight Zone" from which there is no return... sad.

From: RK
14-Jul-22
Scentman it’s the world not the bowsite

From: scentman
14-Jul-22
Most here are aware of the subject of your last post, and are quite privy to the going's on... but some just beat this shit so far in the ground that it's getting very tiring... I understand not to click on to certain threads, at the same time are some just insighting undo attention to this site? I am beginning to think there are nefarious reasons for some posts.

From: scentman
14-Jul-22
Sorry, just don't trust such sterile posts... makes me wonder.

From: scentman
14-Jul-22
Funny you don't click on hunting threads... even our most liberal freind's here are avid hunters or fishermen. Something rotten in Wisconsin and it ain't the cheese... only my opinion.

15-Jul-22

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Is this enough of a non-questionable news source for you liberal, progressive, radical leftists? WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM, WEF, AGENDA BEING PLAYED OUT HERE and the people don’t like it. They are testing it out in these small Liberal countries to see if they can force it down on Americans and across the whole world.

From: bigeasygator
15-Jul-22
That’s not how it works, Mike. No institution, be it the WEF or anyone else, gets to force their agenda on any country - be it the Netherlands or the USA. It doesn’t happen without the consent of elected officials who derive their power from the people.

As far as the “progressive agenda,” there’s a reason Bernie Sanders has never won the nomination of his party let alone the actual Presidency. There’s a reason that the Green New Deal is supported by less than half of the Democratic Party. It’s because most Democrats view the progressive agenda as ridiculous.

From: azelkhntr
15-Jul-22
^^^^^^ Really? Thats not how it works? Tell me about that non-partisan cross-the-aisle vote on injecting Americans with experimental serums came about? That was the WHO, NIH, CCP, CDC, WEF, gates foundation and others. Democrats are avowed marxists now. Stop bickering over the liberal, progressive, green labels. They're all marxists. Here's the one proven cure for them. Good ole .308.

From: ohiohunter
15-Jul-22
Care to dig up any other irrelevant people to aid your deflection? Who cares about the “process”, their will is being imposed. By any chance are you on some sort of state or fed payroll, bc I’ve never seen someone so devoid of the results. Do you turn the sign… slow, stop.

From: Woods Walker
15-Jul-22
LOL! The "Biden Trumpet" in full force!

From: RonP
15-Jul-22
"No institution, be it the WEF or anyone else, gets to force their agenda on any country..."

good grief, are you aware of the recent scotus ruling restricting the epa? do you not think the epa was/is forcing an agenda? any of the other agencies come to mind that are forcing their political agenda? how 'bout what's occurring at the southern border or with education? no agenda there? wow, you can't be serious.

From: gflight
15-Jul-22
That’s not how it works, Mike. No institution, be it the WEF or anyone else, gets to force their agenda on any country - be it the Netherlands or the USA. It doesn’t happen without the consent of elected officials who derive their power from the people.

This is fact

The democrat voters like those here, still vote and make excuses for them so their consent is there for these policies whether they personally support them or not.

Both parties have let government agencies write law when it's the job of the Congress. The democrats have just done better on placing radicals in these agencies and appointing them to judgeships.

Hopefully SCOTUS is going to keep fixing that problem like they did with EPA.

Hope ATF is next.

From: azelkhntr
15-Jul-22
Now the farmers in Spain are taking to the roads.

From: bigeasygator
15-Jul-22
good grief, are you aware of the recent scotus ruling restricting the epa? do you not think the epa was/is forcing an agenda?

And again, this agenda is all a function of who was put in power over these institutions by the people. It is being carried out by duly elected officials which the people of this country get to decide on, not the WEF. Gflight gets it (and fingers crossed the ATF is next as well).

From: bigeasygator
15-Jul-22
BEG is wrong again. Gvt officials that made the Green New Sqweel Mandates in Cheeseheadville Were not elected by a plurality of voters.

Is the House of Representatives not chosen by the people, Shawn? Nowhere did I say anything about a plurality or a majority of people deciding. I said their power is granted by the people, and the people elect their representatives in government, which it is here as it is in the Netherlands.

If i were you BSers i would be care listening to a chick hawk who has been wrong about on anything but ….. well everything

Name one thing, Shawn.

From: 2Wild Bill
15-Jul-22
"The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted." Psalms 12:8

From: DanaC
15-Jul-22
So, David predicted The Donald

>;-)

From: spike78
15-Jul-22
The people might vote on a President but once that happens all votes are done and we have to rely on said President and Congress to pass laws that we don’t necessarily agree on. So now they will be voting on the assault weapons ban but I sure as hell don’t see where I can vote against it. Democracy here is a joke. You vote for this guy or that guy and that’s it. Once that happens your democracy is done until 4 years later.

From: DanaC
15-Jul-22
Brad, do you need a remedial lesson in the difference between a 'democracy'; and a 'republic with certain officials elected by democratic process' ? Because we live in the latter.

Real 'democracy' is ballot questions. Remember 'Question One' when we here in Massachusetts lost the right to trap? Sportsmen got our asses handed to us.

From: bigeasygator
15-Jul-22
That’s how the system works, Spike. There’s no mystery who the teams are and what they’re trying to do. Fortunately, the system is set up with checks and balances. Every two years the House and a third of the Senate turn over, so if people aren’t happy with the direction our elected representatives are taking us, there’s a chance to replace a lot of them. And for things like an AWB bill, a simple majority is, thankfully, not enough - so no chance there is enough support in the Senate to see it through. And that’s how things were designed to work here.

From: TGbow
15-Jul-22
I think some people here think we are a Democracy.. wrong.

The founders intended for the legislators to be elected by the people, that is true...but, those elected officials were suppose to be kept in check by what we call the Constitution. Key word there is..suppose to.

That's why our nation was formed as a Democratic Republic and not mob rule. If the majority agrees on legislation that contradicts the constitution.. does that mean that legislation or executive order should be law? We've had a ship load of laws and executive orders thru out the yrs that should've never happened, but it happens because we have enough gullible people on both sides of the isle.

From: bigeasygator
15-Jul-22
The government in Nederland does not even compare to most other EU nations.

Should i educate you here or would you like to use up some of your jobs mans hours and do it on their time.?

No need to explain anything, Shawn. Spent more than my fair share of time working in the Netherlands and understand perfectly well how their government functions. Notice you didn’t answer my question though…who elects the House of Representatives in the Netherlands?

From: 2Wild Bill
15-Jul-22
TGBow,

Our government is a Constitutional Republic. The ultimate law is the Constitution. There is a project to return this government back to the limitations first established in the original Constitution. Scroll back up to my posts on July8 and you can read all about it.

https://conventionofstates.com/

What the government is following now is not the Constitution but the "courtstitution". Justices have twisted words beyond the scope and meanings to justify expanding the Federal powers over the people. Article V was used by the founders to deal with the specific threat of a tyranical federal government, two years before there was a 2nd Amemdment.

From: TGbow
15-Jul-22
Thanks Bill

From: spike78
16-Jul-22
Since this country is divided almost 50/50 I say split the country by the MS River and have two countries because apparently we are heading in the wrong direction

From: Woods Walker
16-Jul-22
Or better yet, take all the major crime infested, corrupt big city ****holes like Chicago, NYC, etc. and a 50 mile radius around them and split THEM off! No loss......

From: TGbow
16-Jul-22
Is it just coincidence that the cities and states that have adapted their leftist laws have the highest crime and the highest cost of living? And the old excuse that the cost of living is higher but the pay is higher doesn't add up..look at California

From: 2Wild Bill
16-Jul-22
Spike78, " I say split the country by the MS River and have two countries "

That's why the founders agreed on a Constitutional Republic and not a democracy fueled by emotions. "Influence is no government" - George Washington

We have a contract with the government which they have progressively violated over many years, and while some have attempted to stop them, apathy has been dominant.

The Constitution of the United State....its only keepers, the people. - George Washington

Therefore, just as there is no shortcut to taking game, you have to apply yourselves to restore the original Constitution and discard the "courtstitution", that is unless apathy suits you.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country - JFK

https://conventionofstates.com/

16-Jul-22
Sign it folks. No harm in doing so. Only gains.

From: KSflatlander
16-Jul-22
Shawn- I and everyone else sincerely appreciates your service and sacrifice. However, that doesn’t excuse your lack of empathy for others or the narcissism nor does it make you right. If fact, you’ve been wrong or flat out lied on here many many times.

From: KSflatlander
16-Jul-22
Uhhhh cyber ninjas in Arizona for one. Trump losing the election for another. Then there is the $200/barrel oil. And of course the “What would he go” thread and you as Zap LMAO.

Oh and I almost forgot. You having multiple handles and replying to your own posts to back yourself up. Pretty pathetic on many levels.

From: azelkhntr
16-Jul-22
I fail to recall any election that Pr. Trump lost?

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
2020 >;-)

And sorry, no. Even Trump's AG couldn't find evidence of a 'stolen election.' F* your bulls* narrative.

17-Jul-22
Shawn,

I vouch for Ryan as both a good decent man, and a solid hunter. I know him personally. We have broken bread together and shared drinks.

We are politically 180 apart, but I have no doubt he would defend our country.

The sentiments against liberals are understandable, your personal attacks and inflated ego have grown tiresome.

From: bigeasygator
17-Jul-22
Is this bizarro world? The guy who posted under dozens (possibly hundreds?) of screen names, who has denied being “Shawn,” who still doesn’t have his first or last name listed in his profile is calling out someone for only having their first name and actual initial on their account?? LOL what a joke. Tiresome is right, Frank.

From: KSflatlander
17-Jul-22
Why do you want my name so bad? Why does it matter? That’s exactly why I removed my name from BS. You’re crazy and delusional.

Truth is I use to have my name posted but there are some real psycho’s on here and you are one of them.. They/you live so deep in an alternate reality that they/you have lost their moral compass. As BEG put it a “bizarro world.” They (you) actually believe this twisted definition of a “liberal” put out by the right wing nut “news.” That all Americans are binary (L or R) and all liberals are bad and the enemy. Me and every liberal I know are not socialist or Marxist or communist. You/they just try to label anyone as a liberal and the enemy to justify your words and actions. I’m an American just as much as you and I believe in the Constitution and capitalism. You and many others here like to claim others are sheep. Seriously look at yourself. You were involved in the January 6 riots/insurrection with ZERO credible evidence. You took an oath to defend this country and the constitution. And I’m the sheep. Every good soldier needs an enemy right. If you don’t have one then create one.

You have accomplished a lot in your life. Try accomplishing being a good and decent person instead of a weak minded simpleton. Being good and decent is a lasting legacy.

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
" Do you really think creepy Joe got over 10 million more votes than B.O.? "

Yes. And way more votes than Donald the spoiled child.

A lot of good decent people of all political persuasions said 'enough of this shit stain.' Yeah, maybe they held their noses, but they voted Biden in and Trump OUT. Buh-bye.

From: KSflatlander
17-Jul-22
“There is no way suck theft could ever be “proven” by anyone and they know that.“

And there in lies the rub. It actually has been proven that Trump lost and our constitution backs it up. The legal challenges and recounts have proven who won and it was Brandon. Trump rallied a lot of people to vote for him but even more against him. I think the SCOTUS may have done the same thing.

Trumpers think the U.S. is divided 50/50. That’s the bubble they live in. It’s not 50/50 Trumpers vs Antifa. It’s 50/50 R vs D. And there’s a difference.

I’m a proud liberal and bowhunter. I do not support Antifa or the looney canceled culture stuff. I’m not a socialist but do support some social programs (which is socialism and has been a part of our republic for a long time). I support the constitution including the 2nd Amendment.

I voted for Biden because he is a lessor threat to our republic. Trump and radical Trumpers have validated that and continue to on a daily basis. If we work out our differences of opinion via the constitution we will be just fine. Stray from the constitution we are doomed to repeat history.

Don’t buy the BS that radicals and simpletons push here. It’s not a reflection of America or Americans. Most people are inherently good. Don’t let the radicals on either side suck you into their alternate reality on bulls#%t mountain.

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
"I am not a Trump supporter. I am a supporter of America, our Constitution, and conservative values and issues."

.

I am not a Biden supporter. I am a supporter of America, our Constitution, and *moderate* values and issues."

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
PS If the big secret cabal, whoever you believe them to be, had their shit together they'd make dam' sure their preferred candidates were a hell of a lot more attractive than Hillary or Trump, Biden, Pence or Harris.

If those are the best the Jewish bankers/global socialists/space lizards can do than I'll sleep comfortably after a good laugh. Conspiracy mongers have no horse sense whatsoever.

From: azelkhntr
17-Jul-22
At this point in time if you claim Pr. Trump lost the 2020 election you are either willfully ignorant or you're in on it. We the People do not enjoy for the 1st. time in our Republics history the confidence of a legal and legitimate govt. If the executive is illegal and being propped up than this is a criminal State run by criminals and traitors. fjb!

17-Jul-22
Axel,

Are you Trax?

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
Az and Ax, you are both so wound up in bullshite you can't think, can't evaluate evidence. All you can do is seek out ever larger amounts of confirmation of your inane nut-cult-of-Trump beliefs. Go suck on your positive(ly inane) feedback.

So sad.

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
"Democrat Socialist Party" "Democrat Socialist Party"

Keep repeating that Big Conflation like a mantra. Hypnotize your silly self so you can't see any good in anyone who doesn't agree with you 100%. Living proof that the public school system sucks bigly ;-)

From: Old Bow
17-Jul-22
Axel x 100

From: bigeasygator
17-Jul-22
Sheep be sheep…

Like someone who starts a whole thread on the dangers of the “liberal world order,” completely misunderstands and misrepresents what it actual is, and posts anyways without a second of actual research because other ignorant talking heads have latched onto the term? Not to mention, by doing so they are literally on the side of the communists and Marxists? Yup…sheep be sheep.

From: bigeasygator
17-Jul-22
on the side of the communists and Marxists….you say.

Yes, when choose the opposite side of the liberal world order, you are literally choosing Russia and China and are on the side of the communists, Marxists, and autocrats of the world. So you are either too lazy to do the research and understand this, or you have and you’ve decided to perpetuate the lie anyway (likely because you heard someone else whining about the use of the term and you’d rather be angry than admit someone on “your team” is wrong). Either way, it’s not a good look. But I guess sheep be sheep.

From: azelkhntr
17-Jul-22
^^^^^^ The most valuable skill I acquired thru 4 years of BS at University was how to do research. Who, what, why, when, where and how.

From: bigeasygator
17-Jul-22
The most valuable skill I acquired thru 4 years of BS at University was how to do research.

This is literally the funniest thing I’ve ever read on Bowsite.

From: azelkhntr
17-Jul-22

azelkhntr's Link
For the deniers.

17-Jul-22
Welcome back Trax the influencer;-)

From: azelkhntr
17-Jul-22

azelkhntr's embedded Photo
azelkhntr's embedded Photo
It should be noted that the victims of the Uvalde school massacre died on the altar of the NWO.

From: KSflatlander
17-Jul-22
“Lib Order lives to Provide Purpose, Direction and Motivation to the Libtart Antifa BLM, pro commie, anti Lawful Constitutional process.“

A constitutional process…is that what you call your participation in January 6th or the 70 court cases Trump lost over voter fraud.

It’s a Shawn Magyar bizarro world

From: KSflatlander
17-Jul-22
History will remember Trump as an authoritarian and January 6th will always be a huge black mark on his legacy. It’s a black mark on the country. And you helped provide that January 6 s#%t stain on our history.

Kind of telling that you bragged about your participation in the insurrection right after January 6th and now you don’t want to talk about. If your actions were right and justified then why are you hiding from it?

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
"History will remember Trump as an authoritarian..."

Actually he'll be remembered as a weak, puling crybaby who *wanted* to be a strong, authoritarian figure. A truly strong person would have put the fear in Putain's sorry heart. Instead he threw a childish temper tantrum when reality said 'no.'

That being said, he still poses a significant threat to this country and I'll feel safer when he's locked up. 1 room efficiency, located at 354 Hunter St, Ossining, NY 10562.

From: 2Wild Bill
17-Jul-22
“The Democratic Party was formed around the election of Andrew Jackson in 1828. Its platform was mainly a negative one in the sense that it was “against” big government and progressive reforms—such as the abolition of slavery. Instead, it presented itself as the champion of “individual liberty”—starting with the liberty to own slaves.” (https://socialistrevolution.org/a-short-history-of-the-democratic-party)

The Democratic Party has changed significantly during its more than two centuries of existence. During the 19th century the party supported or tolerated slavery, and it opposed civil rights reforms after the American Civil War in order to retain the support of Southern voters.” (https://thereaderwiki.com/en/History_of_the_Democratic_Party_(United_States))

“…every segregation law in the United States, from the 1880s to the 1950s was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, enforced by Democratic officials, and there is not a single exception to this rule…The Democrats were the party of slavery, of segregation, of founding the Ku Klux Klan, of reviving the Ku Klux Klan, of racial terrorism, and of opposition to the civil rights movement of the 1960s. The opposition to the civil rights act of 1964, the voting rights act of 1965, the fair housing bill of 1968 came mainly from the Democratic party, and that’s a fact.” (Dinesh D’Souza, March 2019, Stanford University. https://www.wayoflife.org/reports/the_democratic_party_is_the_party_of_slavery.php)

“…the first 23 African Americans in Congress did belong to the Republican Party, due to the GOP’s support of voting rights and the Democratic Party’s embrace of white supremacy.” (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/18/fact-check-democrats-republicans-and-complicated-history-race/3208378001)

“The Democrats were the party of slavery, black codes, Jim Crow, and that miserable terrorist excrescence, the Ku Klux Klan. Republicans were the party of Lincoln, Reconstruction, anti-lynching laws, and the civil rights acts of 1875, 1957, 1960, and 1964.” (https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/06/democratic-party-racist-history-mona-charen)

History of the Democratic Party TIMELINE OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY 1829 – the Democratic party is founded, on a platform of individual rights, state sovereignty, and pro-slavery. 1830 – Democratic president Andrew Jackson creates the Indian Removal Act, which forced indigenous people to leave their homeland. (Trail of Tears) “Under Jackson and the next Democratic Party president, Martin Van Buren, 70,000 Native Americans east of the Mississippi were terrorized and driven out of their lands by the military.” (https://speakoutsocialists.org/a-history-of-the-democratic-party-from-slavery-to-obama-loyal-defenders-of-capitalism) 1854 – The Republican Party is founded, on an anti-slavery platform. 1857 – In the case of Scott vs. Sandford, the court ruled that slaves aren’t citizens, they are property. The seven justices, voting in favor were Democrats, and the two, who dissented were Republicans. “As the 1850s began, the question over whether slavery should be allowed in new territories and states became the major dividing line in American politics — and the Democratic Party more and more clearly became the most important institutional supporter of slavery.” (https://www.vox.com/2014/12/8/7328755/maps-democratic-party) 1860 – Eleven slave states secede from the Union. Democrats start the civil war. 1863 – Republican President Abraham Lincoln signs the Emancipation Proclamation. 1863 – Republicans elect their first Hispanic Governor, Romualdo Pacheco, of California. 1865 – Lincoln was assassinated, his vice president, Andrew Johnson, a Democrat assumes the presidency, who is opposed to integrating the newly freed slaves. “Lincoln’s vice president, a Democrat named Andrew Johnson, assumed the presidency. But Johnson adamantly opposed Lincoln’s plan to integrate the newly freed slaves into the South’s economic and social order. Johnson and the Democratic Party were unified in their opposition to the 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery; the 14th Amendment, which gave blacks citizenship; and the 15th Amendment, which gave blacks the vote. All three passed only because of universal Republican support.”1 “President Johnson pardoned the ex-slave-owners, returned their property, and gave them political control of the South. The ex-slaveholders immediately used their regained political power, as well as their wealth and ownership of the land, to re-institute slavery in all but name. They vetoed new state constitutions which gave African Americans the right to vote.” (https://speakoutsocialists.org/a-history-of-the-democratic-party-from-slavery-to-obama-loyal-defenders-of-capitalism) 1865 – Republicans pass the 13th Amendment, which permanently outlaws slavery. 1865 – Democrats establish “Black Codes,” a state and local statute, intended to marginalize blacks and keep them in indentured servitude. Poll taxes and literacy tests prevented them from voting. 1865 – Confederate veterans found the KKK, to oppose the Republican party’s integration of blacks. Its first Grand Wizard, was a Democrat, named Nathan Bedford Forrest. 1868 – Republicans pass the 14th Amendment, giving blacks citizenship. It was opposed by the Democrats. 1868 – Republicans pass the 15th Amendment, giving blacks the right to vote. No Democrat supported it. 1868 – KKK Grand Wizard is honored at the Democratic National Convention. 1869 – Reconstruction ended, Democrats re-established white supremacy in the South with Jim Crow laws, that legalized segregation. that would take another 100 years to abolish. 1871 – Republican president Ulysses S Grant dismantles the KKK. 1872 – Republicans elect the first African American senators and representatives. 1877 – “When Reconstruction ended in 1877, Southern Democrats regained power and began passing and implementing legal restrictions such as the poll tax, literacy tests and grandfather” clauses, effectively disenfranchising much of the new African-American electorate.” (https://www2.umbc.edu/che/tahlessons/pdf/African_Americans_and_the_Democratic_Party(PrinterFriendly).pdf) 1878 – Republican senator Aaron Sargent introduces the 19th Amendment, to give women the right to vote. The Democrat-controlled Congress voted it out. 1911 – Democrat president Woodrow Wilson stuffs his cabinet with Dixicrats (powerful Southern Democrats) and set back the cause of civil rights for decades. 1918 – KKK is re-established, targeting immigrants, Jews, and Catholics, in addition to blacks. 1919 – Republican Congress passes the 19th Amendment, guaranteeing women the right to vote. Note: At democrats.org/who-we-are/our-history/ it says “Under the leadership of Democratic President Woodrow Wilson, the U.S. Constitution was amended to grant women the right to vote.” Notice how they try to take credit for what now is good, but then they worked against it. 1922 – Democrats try to keep lynching legal by creating a filibuster in the Senate. 1929 – Republican Octaviano Larrazolo becomes the first Mexican American Senator. 1929 – Republican Charles Curtis becomes the first Native American VP. 1939 – Democrat and KKK cover girl Margaret Sanger created the “Negro Project” and Planned Parenthood to cull the black population. 1954 – Republican lawmakers outlawed segregation in public school, opposed by state Democrats. Republican President Eisenhower sent in federal troops to enforce the law. 1959 – First Republican Asian Senator, Hiram Fong is elected. 1964 – President Johnson successfully runs an ad, titled “Confessions of a Republican.” Democrats learned that by accusing Republicans of racism, even without evidence, they can gain political power. Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson who became president after Kennedy’s assassination said in 1963, “I’ll have those n****s vote Democrat for the next 200 years.” and “These Negroes, they get pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us……….we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.” (https://timefortruth.blog/2020/09/01/the-hidden-history-of-the-democratic-party) 1964 – The Republican-controlled Congress passes the 1964 Civil Rights Act, as an extension of the Republicans’ 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts. Democratic Senators filibustered the bill for a record 75 days.

Sources assets.ctfassets.net/qnesrjodfi80/6bQdKPLDjyo2s0I8c60gA2/aec7a4feb53cdd469d9c59bc3dd5cc64/swain-the_inconvenient_truth_about_the_democratic_party-transcript.pdf imdb.com/title/tt5646136/ nationalreview.com/2015/06/democratic-party-racist-history-mona-chare socialistrevolution.org/a-short-history-of-the-democratic-party speakoutsocialists.org/a-history-of-the-democratic-party-from-slavery-to-obama-loyal-defenders-of-capitalism thereaderwiki.com/en/History_of_the_Democratic_Party_(United_States) timefortruth.blog/2020/09/01/the-hidden-history-of-the-democratic-party umbc.edu/che/tahlessons/pdf/African_Americans_and_the_Democratic_Party(PrinterFriendly).pdf usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/18/fact-check-democrats-republicans-and-complicated-history-race/3208378001 wayoflife.org/reports/the_democratic_party_is_the_party_of_slavery.php

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22

DanaC's embedded Photo
DanaC's embedded Photo
A picture is worth 1000 words, Bill

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
PS Which states have switched from 'D' to 'R' in the ensuing years?

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
PPS conflating the 'dixiecrats' of the 1950's with the Democrats of today to 'prove' that 'Democrats are the real racists' is intellectual laziness at best, or simple dishonesty. Which is it?

From: TGbow
17-Jul-22
I agree with Walter Williams, the Civil Rights Act was bad legislation. Enforce individuals constitutional rights was what was needed. Southern Democrats wanted to hold on to Jim Crowe laws no doubt. But, some foresaw what would happen with the Civil Rights Act of 1964...exactly what has happened..resulting in descrimination in another package. Descrimination in any form is bad and we should call it what it is. Quotas are nothing more than discrimination just like the Jim Crowe laws were. Blacks suffered injustice in other parts of the US besides the south.

If we would just enforce the constitution for what it says we could avoid a whole lot of problems, just like Frederick Douglas said many years ago.

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
TG, the problem that the CRA addressed was that too many were convinced that the Constitution and its protections did NOT apply to Blacks. When your very humanity - the basis of rights - is denied, it needs to be made explicit.

From: nchunter
17-Jul-22
Trump was an arrogant jerk but I loved his policies.. Weak,, how in the heck do you think he was weak. He stood up to corrupt dems and republicans like no politician ever has. He stood up to China like no one has. He stood up to illegal immigration like no president ever has. He was starting to look into prison reform like no one had. And just letting prisoners out like NY and California is not prison reform. Biden at his best is terrible for this country. No one in history has divided this country like Obama did. In his time police became the bad guy and fentanyl addicts and thugs became the heroes. Trump had a million faults but weak was not one of them. And how with all the evidence is Hillary and her campaign group not going to prison for creating a false report of Trump collusion with Russia. And I bet you don't give a crap about Hunter's laptop.

From: DanaC
17-Jul-22
"Hunter's laptop" is the defining myth of alt-right lunacy.

From: TGbow
17-Jul-22
DanaC, the core principal against slavery was already there but when politicians twist and distort for their own agendas we end up with negative results. That's exactly what Frederick Douglas understood..the problem is not the constitution but the interpretation of the constitution.

It's clear today that the government went too far like they usually do. Reverse discrimination is not the answer. I know first hand growing up in the deep south in the 60s how unfair and ridiculous Jim Crowe laws were. I saw my mother stand against racism when it wasn't popular to do so. Something was definitely needed I agree...I just think the gov went to far, 2 wrongs don't make a right.

From: KSflatlander
17-Jul-22

From: 2Wild Bill
17-Jul-22

2Wild Bill's embedded Photo
2Wild Bill's embedded Photo
Yes Dana, and all the Democrats were not the dixiecrats, as you want us to believe.

From: RK
17-Jul-22
Proud Liberals

Danac and Ks

My god could that position be more anti American at this point.

Congratulations. You Rhode scholars certainly got what you voted for

Voting with Hate vs Voting with reason got us to this point. Golf clap boys, golf clap

From: KSflatlander
17-Jul-22
I just love it when people point to democrats 50-150years ago as if time and politics are static. Seriously LOL? If you think democrats and liberals are the party of white nationalists then you are way deep in. I sure didn’t see many white nationalists supporting Obama or Biden. I have seen them show up to Trump rallies though with all the dog whistles coming from Trump. And I am in no way saying Trump supporters are all racist because they aren’t.

I don’t play golf.

From: TGbow
17-Jul-22
Most Democrats in the south were for Jim Crowe. JFK tried to do a lot to change that mentality. What most people don't realize it seems is the Democrat Party of today are NOT Liberals..they are Leftist/Socialist.

Also, most Republicans of today are NOT conservatives ( holding to care principals of the constitution)...they are Facist. There are some in both parties that are not to that extreme but as a whole that describes both parties, IMO.

Either way, with Big government control, we all lose.

From: Grey Ghost
17-Jul-22
Have any of you been outdoors, lately? I’ve been loving the CO weather above timberline, looking for sheep. The 4:30 am hikes are getting easier. Almost to the point that I look forward to them.

All my gear, and shooting, is dialed in, and I’ve found some decent rams to hunt. Just 2 more weeks….can’t wait.

Matt

From: TGbow
17-Jul-22
Matt, I have been outdoors..and it's hot in humid here. After 20 minutes of shooting my longbow I'm pretty much wet with sweat..lol

I should have been born a Yankee cause I hate this weather down here in the summer

From: KSflatlander
17-Jul-22
I’m outdoors in the woods at this very moment doing bio surveys. I’ll be backpacking/scouting in CO in 10 days.

From: 2Wild Bill
17-Jul-22
Grey Ghost, 6/14/2022 I plan to practice what I preach. This will be my last political post on Bowsite. I may occasionally participate in a few hunting related threads, but that’s it.

I knew it would only be a matter of days, 31 to be exact.

From: Grey Ghost
17-Jul-22
Was my post political, Bill? If so, I sincerely apologize.

Carry on…

Matt

17-Jul-22
Lol Matt. Just don’t post your hunt this time, someone will find a reason to 8itch. ;-)

From: RK
17-Jul-22
Proud Liberals

Danac and Ks

My god could that position be more anti American at this point.

Congratulations. You Rhode scholars certainly got what you voted for

Voting with Hate vs Voting with reason got us to this point. Golf clap boys, golf clap

From: TGbow
17-Jul-22
I want to hear about everybody's hunting stories..longbow, recurve, compound..doesn't matter. I've been to every state except Montana n Idaho ..which I would love to visit sometime. Northern New Mexico is nice..Colorado is nice also. In 2009 we went thru NM from Alamogordo thru Taos and Chama into Colorado..in the mid to late June and there was snow on the ground. I like the dry climate out there.

From: Grey Ghost
17-Jul-22
Hey Shawn, thanks for the encouragement. I’ve been shooting my recurve and compound about equally. Would love to use my recurve on this sheep hunt, mostly because it’s lighter to pack around. Ultimately, I’ll probably go with the longer range weapon, just so you can feel superior.

Matt

From: Grey Ghost
17-Jul-22
Whatever you say, rump ranger. Did you find KS’s full name, so you could stalk his address and phone number, like you did to me? I kinda miss your threatening text messages and voice mails. Would hate for KS to miss out on that.

Matt

From: Old Bow
18-Jul-22
Newsom will be our President sooner than later .

From: azelkhntr
18-Jul-22
DanaC17-Jul-22 "Hunter's laptop" is the defining myth of alt-right lunacy.

There it is. The absolutely most stupid thing I'll have read today. Bravo danachad, bravo.

From: DanaC
18-Jul-22
So where is it? Trump's FBI had it for years? Big nothing.

From: DanaC
18-Jul-22
" Voting with Hate vs Voting with reason got us to this point. "

Sounds like the GOP and Trump to me. Way past simple 'disagreement.'

18-Jul-22
The FBI had it and did nothing with it Dana? Are you assuming there is nothing there and that the FBI is not corrupt?

The laptop is a real story of corruption. Hunter has been under investigation for quite awhile now for it to be a big nothing burger. I am not a fan of trump the man, but I do try and remain objective.

From: TGbow
18-Jul-22
I've lost no love for the Republican party but if folks don't see how leftist the Democrat Party is they either support their Marxist agenda or they are just ignorant to the truth. The Republicans are trailing..not far behind with their Fascist agenda, but as a whole the Republican party is not as leftist as the Democrat Party, that's very plain to see.

From: RonP
18-Jul-22
"" Voting with Hate vs Voting with reason got us to this point. " Sounds like the GOP and Trump to me. Way past simple 'disagreement.'"

Sounds like both sides to me, that should be really obvious. Few see this and can be critical of their own party and hold them accountable. It's why we are where we are.

From: DanaC
18-Jul-22
"a report revealed this week."

What report? Sources?

From: azelkhntr
18-Jul-22
From: Danachad18-Jul-22 So where is it? Trump's FBI had it for years? Big nothing.

What a tool for the librons you are. The FBI held on to Hunters laptop for over a year all while the shame impeachment of 45 was ongoing. It wasn't Pr. Trumps fbi it was obamas. Just stfu.

From: DanaC
18-Jul-22
Obama was not President, Trump was. If he wasn't able to control the FBI *from the Oval Office* was he really President at all? Maybe Hillary really did win and Trump was just a sock puppet >;-)

From: azelkhntr
18-Jul-22
^^^^^^ You're certifiable dchad. Why do you think obummer bought the manse in DC? No ex-pres in the history of the Republic has ever stayed there. It was unthinkable. But if you wanted and needed to keep control of your DS shadow govt. you couldn't be far from the bureaucracies and sycophants you had corrupted. sthu!

From: DanaC
19-Jul-22
LMAO. Obama is still living rent free in that squirrel trap you call a mind. Gonna get crowded in there with Hillary and Biden - and Hunter! Gonna provide free wi-fi for their computers? >;-)

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
Obama is nothing more than a Marxist under the banner of the Democrat Party, just like Bush was a Fascist under the banner of the Republican Party. Soros has a very strong hand in this bunch

From: KSflatlander
19-Jul-22
TG- no offense but your hum drum of the socialist, Marxist, communist BS is frankly telling. I don’t think you even know what each is. Kind reminds me of a kid in grade school back on the early 80s who called everyone a communist if he didn’t get his way. Obama was not a Marxist and Bush was not a fascist. Your constant beat of a nonexistent drum says more about you than anyone. Give it a freaking rest.

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
KS, no offense but you are showing your ignorance of the definition of Marxism. We will just agree to disagree.

From: KSflatlander
19-Jul-22
We can agree to disagree sure no problem. If you will just stop beating the drum. We have a mixed economy of capitalism with social programs (socialism). It’s been that way long before Obama was around. Buy your way of thinking then every social worker or person who tries to help the less fortunate are Marxist. It’s complete BS and worn out.

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
Yes, we have had Socialism in this country for years, that's true. But, if someone doesn't recognize the Marxist leanings of the Democrat Party today, then I don't expect them to understand. I won't quit beating the drum because I see it for what it is. If you don't like my post, then don't read it.

From: KSflatlander
19-Jul-22
Oh I understand completely. I’m pretty sure you don’t. Carry on and happy hunting.

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
KS, I hope you have a great season.

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
They may not carry the Marxist banner but they are one in the same. Not every Democrat but the leadership definitely is. Yes, the constitution has been in their way for years. Theodore and Woodrow discovered that obstacle called the constitution...the father's of "progressivism".

From: DanaC
19-Jul-22
"B.O. was and is nothing more than a pawn..."

But, but, but Azhat and Hedge say Obama was/remains a liberal conspiracy mastermind. I'm confused!!!

You guys want to get your story straight?

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
I do wish we would quit referring to Marxist/ Socialist as Liberals, they are not Liberals in the true sense of the word Liberal.

From: bigeasygator
19-Jul-22
I'd say someone who either (1) still doesn't understand what the liberal world order actually refers to or (2) does understand but decides to misuse it anyway to push their dumb conspiracies would be the one who is indoctrinated and easily led. But hey, YMMV.

I do wish we would quit referring to Marxist/ Socialist as Liberals, they are not Liberals in the true sense of the word Liberal.

Nice to see someone gets it regarding what "liberal" and "liberalism" actually means (though I wouldn't come close to characterizing Democrats as Marxist...the majority of the party are social liberals).

From: bigeasygator
19-Jul-22

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
Marxist intend to leave the private sector in private ownership while dictating every move. While doing away with local police, history, gun control, ect. This is so they can Federalize so to speak every sector of the private sector. Communism is when the gov owns everything..look at Venezuela.

I guess for me, when I think of Liberal, I think of more of the Classical Liberal definition...really more Libertarian. I'm not saying all Democrats are Marxist just like all Republicans are not NeoCons. But it's clear to me the agenda on both sides of the isle as a whole. Government control, just with a little different twist on either side.

From: yooper89
19-Jul-22
Gotta feel bad for Pat. Guy just wants to grow a good website but he’s stuck with 6 users holding the whole thing back

From: Will tell
19-Jul-22
I watched two Eagles fighting way up in the air. They'd swoop and turn upside down trying to sink their talons in each other. Finally one grabbed the other and he grabbed back. They started spiraling down both holding on and not letting loose. That's why they call it a death spiral, both Eagles died. Reminds me of today's Politics with both parties in a death spiral.

From: DanaC
19-Jul-22
" But it's clear to me the agenda on both sides of the isle as a whole. Government control, just with a little different twist on either side. "

I don't think they even care about 'control' except so far as it affects their personal wealth. They *buy* the tax laws and breaks they want, by spending a small percent on 'friendly' pols on both sides of the aisle.

Yeah, the Dems may get more from Big Pharma and the GOP may get more from Big Oil, (or Big Agriculture, Big Banking, Big Armaments, Big Steel, Big Auto...) But at the end of the day BIG $$$ has far more influence than any of our voices.

Go ahead, write your congresscritter, enjoy the pretty form letter you get back. Just don't expect them to suspend the Golden Rule.

From: azelkhntr
19-Jul-22
From: Axel19-Jul-22 The voting public who support the Democrat Socialist Party are not Marxist, or socialist in any degree to a lesser degree. Most are blind dumb sheep, they don't know what they are truly supporting. Most of those ELECTED within that Party are indeed socialist, far to the leftist extreme. Some are indeed Marxist, some in the know members of the hybrid socialist cabal.

Wolves do not concern themselves with the opinions of the sheep. If you're a member of either party today you should be considered a damn fool, especially the R party. The Founders warned us about allowing the formation of Party rule. We didn't listen.

From: DanaC
19-Jul-22
Good grief, Az, you actually said something I agree with. I will be dipped in chocolate and thrown to the lesbians!

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
Well, DanaC at least you will be thrown to the opposite sex..could be worse..lol

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
I voted mostly Republican until 2004. I use to believe I would be throwing my vote away by not voting for a major party...I can see how people would come to that conclusion but after a while I realized I was throwing my vote away by voting for the same crowd and getting the same big gov results, except for a few morsels here and there.

Like my Dad said not long ago, I don't think JFK would fit in either party today.

From: DanaC
19-Jul-22
TG, I doubt very much that Barry Goldwater would be welcome in today's GOP. >;-)

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
DanaC, I agree with you 100% on that

19-Jul-22
Trax,

You would have us believe you are not affiliated with any cabal but you keep attacking only one party. You disappeared right after the inauguration to show up now as midterms approach. Hmm.

Our PMs the last time you told me I had been compromised but didn’t know what that meant. Me thinks you are full of crap, a peddler of influence who has been instructed to use repetitive terminology to sell your brand.

Joel is not the same name used last time. Anyone not being transparent is someone to question.

19-Jul-22
Let me guess…as we get closer to the elections you will be sure to tell us who the non-globalist candidates are, aka Trump people, right?

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
It's no secret Soros is a powerful man among the leftist.

I voted for Trump but I have to honestly say that after voting for him I felt like I did after I voted for Bush the 1st time. Obama and Biden are the worst we've had in my lifetime but I don't feel like Trump was enough of a Constitutionalist. Trump did some good things but at the end of the day I think he was like most of the politicians in DC...not really concerned about what the Constitution says. He was better than Obama and Biden for sure but honestly I don't view him as a true conservative, and for me that's someone that seems to conserve the core principals of the constitution. People should have a right to say what they want, put what they choose to into their own body, not have their income extorted, ect. We have such a jumbled mess of big government machines, people getting off from criminal activity because they have money..on and on

19-Jul-22
I don’t disagree with most of what you said. But the timing and changed style since last time says hired gun to me.

You are being less confrontational, less trump style now. Hopefully that means your team got the message that if the good guys want to win they need the female voters. And less attacks on other minority groups, focusing on the global cabal as the enemy. It should sell better.

19-Jul-22
Sorry for the loss of your parents!

Why change handles?

From: scentman
19-Jul-22
Their love for eachother is embedded in your heart... that has to carry you my friend.

From: TGbow
19-Jul-22
Joel, sorry for your loss.

20-Jul-22
“ The American Conservative Union rates Trump far more conservative than Reagan. Trump’s greatest asset though was that he would not be controlled by his own Party while Reagan was very much a Party man. H was a globalist and W surrounded by old school power establishment who controlled him, on top of he handing over the reins to Pelosi and Reid during his second term. Soros is just one of a great many rooks doing battle for globalism. He’s better known than most, the most powerful none of us have ever heard of.”

Looks just about like a cut and paste from your last time participating here, especially the part about trump being more conservative. Too bad he wasn’t half as likable.

The unidentified bogey men that we have never heard of, well, lots of folks like conspiracy theories so whatever you’re attempting ought to work some with that one.

When someone isn’t fully transparent, I am always skeptical even if they share a tragedy. At 63, dealt with enough con-artists to just look under the hood.

From: azelkhntr
20-Jul-22
Speaking of cons. The o'biden criminal regime may be on the verge of announcing an National Climate Emergency declaration over the entire USA. If you watched the news the last couple of days the msm is orchestrating a bs massive, unprecedented heat wave fiction across NA and Europe. It's called summer my amigos and this is no crisis that a mere mortal can solve. However, there is a working theory being put forth that the slight increase in summer temps over NA and W. Europe this year may be directly linked to the magnetic pole shifting inexorably towards Russia. The di-pole magnetospheres effects and activities are now centered over the NA continent and W. EU. Apparently its causing the N. jet streams to dip far too the south. Never let a crisis go to waste is the mantra of the librons, and if one doesn't present itself, you create one. Its caused by cow farts ya know so get ready to eat ze bugz and be happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOWvAY2Lzw

From: gflight
20-Jul-22
The strategic agreement between WEF and the UN that was ratified by the member nations to save the planet by 2030 will see Canada cut emissions of fossil fuels and livestock by 40% by the same year.

From: spike78
20-Jul-22
Get ready for food shortages once the government starts this crap.

From: spike78
20-Jul-22

spike78's Link
For all the climate change wackos. Out of curiosity I wanted to see when the highest temperature was in my state of Massachusetts so I looked it up yup 1975!!! Yeah so I guess global warming is going on now. I looked at the past history of high temps and it was roughly the same for the last 40 years give me a break.

From: KSflatlander
20-Jul-22
Curious as to the highest annual average temperature in Massachusetts over time? What’s the trend from year to year?

From: gflight
21-Jul-22

gflight's embedded Photo
gflight's embedded Photo
This is Missouri

From: azelkhntr
21-Jul-22
When was the vote in Congress on destroying our posterities future? Don't democracies actually vote on national issues to be addressed? Especially ones as nationally crippling as this?

From: spike78
21-Jul-22
Yup Missouri sure looks cyclical to me as well. No climate change BS to see here move along.

21-Jul-22

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Classic WEF propaganda article in The Economist.
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Classic WEF propaganda article in The Economist.
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Net-zero by 2050, 50% drop by 2030 is what the WEF wants. Totally impossible without a World Wide lockdown and Economic devastation similar to the Covid lockdowns.
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Net-zero by 2050, 50% drop by 2030 is what the WEF wants. Totally impossible without a World Wide lockdown and Economic devastation similar to the Covid lockdowns.
This article in the well respected, “The Economist” parrots the ridiculous and completely unattainable goals of the WEF and it’s Net-Zero by 2050. You would think The Economist would actually say what this would do to the Economy but they can’t because they are part of the Liberal Media propaganda machine.

This is the same type of crap that liberal, or radical leftist (same thing nowadays) politicians all over the world are pushing to club the peasants into submission. Let’s call it the New Liberal World Order so it’s not mixed up with the old Liberal World Order.

From: spike78
21-Jul-22
And the funny part is they don’t seem to mention building a stronger power grid to support this garbage. Can you imagine a summer of everyone running their AC while at the same time charging their EVs? Yeah seems possible wtf.

From: azelkhntr
22-Jul-22

azelkhntr's embedded Photo
azelkhntr's embedded Photo

From: TGbow
22-Jul-22
I guess when we are living in a Marxist/Communist country, maybe people will wake up...or they will just be in denial that it's not really happening.

From: gflight
23-Jul-22
Trudeau pushes ahead on fertilizer reduction as provinces and farmers cry foul

Toronto Sun

https://torontosun.com/news/national/trudeau-pushes-ahead-on-fertilizer-reduction-as-provinces-and-farmers-cry-foul

From: azelkhntr
24-Jul-22
^^^^^ How can this be? Trudy has never done anything other than chit all over the canucks. Must be a meter deep by now eh? Plenty of growth medium.

From: azelkhntr
24-Jul-22

azelkhntr's Link
Let US hope.

From: spike78
24-Jul-22
Wonder when Ole Biden is going to pull the fertilizer crap here. When he does you will know he is directed by the WEF to do so. I’m sure Bill Gates has plenty of fertilizer on all his land to keep the elites fed in the coming years. I wish this all sounded crazy but it is happening right in front of us as we speak.

From: RonP
24-Jul-22
"Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan, appointed by Barack Obama, has claimed at a conference that the court must follow “public sentiment” in its decisions or it risks losing its legitimacy."

She should be removed for saying that. It's completely contrary to the oath she took. UFB.

From: TGbow
24-Jul-22
RonP, you would think she would be smarter than that but her statement just proves that the Constitution stands in the way of these Leftist and NeoCons

24-Jul-22

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Leslyn Lewis is one of the contenders to lead the Conservative Party of Canada
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Leslyn Lewis is one of the contenders to lead the Conservative Party of Canada

From: spike78
24-Jul-22
I feel for you Mike as you guys are now on borrowed time. Canada can be named New China right about now.

From: Babysaph
24-Jul-22
Well there must be something to this global warming . It’s been 95 here in WV for 4-5 days.. and it’s only July.

From: spike78
24-Jul-22

spike78's Link
Well this is all you need to watch to see what a sham Jan 6 was. What a joke this country is the rule of law has gone out the window. What did you say about Constitution KS?

From: spike78
24-Jul-22
Babysaph it’s called a heatwave just like every summer for the past 100 years.

24-Jul-22
The same thing is happening in the USA! They can just do it more openly in Canada because it has more indoctrinated radical leftists(liberals) than the USA and a government paid off Liberal media.

From: spike78
25-Jul-22
You are correct Mike, the ban on fertilizer here is coming soon.

From: TGbow
25-Jul-22
There is definitely a bias toward the left for sure. But, there is also a bias toward most people that have money and power no matter what side of the isle they are on.

The left take the lead though with their hypocrisy when it comes to fairness. Not to say the right doesn't do the same but the left takes the lead, IMO.

From: spike78
25-Jul-22
TG I’m guessing if a Republican was involved in Insider trading like the Pelosi’s it would be a big deal. That’s what you call being hypocritical.

From: scentman
26-Jul-22
If we do get the majority, we need a pitbull as speaker.

From: TGbow
26-Jul-22
I'm not a Republican but I've voted for more Republicans than Democrats..the Democrats I voted for were local politicians. I've voted independent a lot also. The best thing the Republican Party could do is put their money and support behind a Barry Goldwater type candidate and return to a more constitutional party that the Republican Party once was.

I know Democrats that don't like what their party has become...not all but most are leftist..not Liberals but Marxist Leftist types. I always thought a real conservative was someone that wanted to "conserve" liberty. If you read a lot of Frederick Douglass's writings, you can see that he got it. "The problem is not the constitution, but the interpretation of the constitution".

From: azelkhntr
26-Jul-22
1.5% of a particular ethnic religious group live in the USA but they make up 80% of the heads of the 3 letter govt bureaucracies in the USA. Houston, I think We the People have a problem.

From: gflight
30-Jul-22

gflight's Link
There has been no temperature warming for at least 17 years across the United States, according to results from a rarely referenced dataset that was designed to remove all urban heat distortions.

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The dataset, compiled by the Natural Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in the U.S., shows oscillating temperature changes, but very little evidence to indicate a warming trend.

In fact, the above graph clearly shows the United States to be cooler in May 2022 compared to May 2005.

From: TGbow
30-Jul-22
They know the earth has always gone thru warming and cooling phases. I remember in the early 80s , every magazine I picked up mentioned " the coming ice age". Climate change is just part of the leftist tactics to gain control.

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