Sitka Gear
Mock scrapes
Whitetail Deer
Contributors to this thread:
deerhunter72 22-Sep-22
Catscratch 22-Sep-22
APauls 22-Sep-22
Stressless 22-Sep-22
Charlie Rehor 22-Sep-22
MA-PAdeerslayer 22-Sep-22
deerhunter72 22-Sep-22
Ironbow 22-Sep-22
JL 22-Sep-22
BUCKeye 22-Sep-22
JL 22-Sep-22
t-roy 22-Sep-22
deerhunter72 22-Sep-22
Zbone 24-Sep-22
Pat Lefemine 24-Sep-22
deerhunter72 24-Sep-22
Kodiak 25-Sep-22
Mint 26-Sep-22
JL 26-Sep-22
Zbone 26-Sep-22
JL 26-Sep-22
Zbone 26-Sep-22
t-roy 26-Sep-22
JL 26-Sep-22
deerhunter72 26-Sep-22
Zbone 29-Sep-22
Zbone 29-Sep-22
Zbone 29-Sep-22
deerhunter72 01-Oct-22
Zbone 01-Oct-22
JL 01-Oct-22
deerhunter72 01-Oct-22
Zbone 02-Oct-22
Zbone 02-Oct-22
Zbone 02-Oct-22
Zbone 02-Oct-22
deerhunter72 02-Oct-22
Zbone 02-Oct-22
Zbone 02-Oct-22
Hancock West 02-Oct-22
Jon Simoneau 04-Oct-22
t-roy 04-Oct-22
Jon Simoneau 04-Oct-22
Jon Simoneau 04-Oct-22
Jon Simoneau 04-Oct-22
SBH 04-Oct-22
Catscratch 04-Oct-22
Jon Simoneau 04-Oct-22
deerhunter72 04-Oct-22
Scoot 04-Oct-22
deerhunter72 04-Oct-22
Zbone 05-Oct-22
Zbone 05-Oct-22
deerhunter72 06-Oct-22
JL 06-Oct-22
Zbone 16-Oct-22
Scrappy 16-Oct-22
Zbone 17-Oct-22
deerhunter72 17-Oct-22
Zbone 18-Oct-22
Zbone 18-Oct-22
Zbone 18-Oct-22
Zbone 18-Oct-22
Zbone 18-Oct-22
JL 18-Oct-22
Zbone 19-Oct-22
Zbone 01-Nov-22
Inshart 02-Nov-22
Blood 02-Nov-22
deerhunter72 02-Nov-22
APauls 02-Nov-22
APauls 02-Nov-22
APauls 02-Nov-22
blue spot 02-Nov-22
Zbone 02-Nov-22
APauls 02-Nov-22
blue spot 02-Nov-22
lv2bohunt 02-Nov-22
lv2bohunt 02-Nov-22
lv2bohunt 02-Nov-22
Bearman 02-Nov-22
deerhunter72 02-Nov-22
Zbone 03-Nov-22
deerhunter72 03-Nov-22
deerhunter72 03-Nov-22
Murph 03-Nov-22
Zbone 03-Nov-22
t-roy 03-Nov-22
t-roy 03-Nov-22
woodguy65 04-Nov-22
woodguy65 04-Nov-22
woodguy65 04-Nov-22
beemann 04-Nov-22
beemann 04-Nov-22
KHNC 04-Nov-22
Zbone 04-Nov-22
Murph 04-Nov-22
Zbone 04-Nov-22
Zbone 04-Nov-22
Zbone 05-Nov-22
Murph 05-Nov-22
Zbone 05-Nov-22
Zbone 05-Nov-22
Murph 05-Nov-22
woodguy65 05-Nov-22
Zbone 09-Nov-22
Zbone 09-Nov-22
Zbone 09-Nov-22
Zbone 09-Nov-22
Zbone 09-Nov-22
DaveHowell 18-Nov-22
deerhunter72 19-Nov-22
From: deerhunter72
22-Sep-22
I know this has been covered before, but the I can't get the search feature to work. When making mock scrapes, is vine or rope better for the licking branch? Probably a little late to be messing with it this year but I thought I'd put up a few and see what I get on camera. I remember a lot of you guys like the vine but I saw a youtube video of Don Higgins and he swears by the rope method. As far as the scrape goes, do you pee in it?

From: Catscratch
22-Sep-22
I've never used rope or vines, I use branches. I think anything with a little scent on it at the right height will work. Lots of people like rope and vines though.

Yes, I've peed in them many times. I don't think the scent on the ground is nearly as important as the scent on the licking branch.

From: APauls
22-Sep-22
I've had better luck with vines than ropes.

From: Stressless
22-Sep-22
Wild Grape Vine is #1.

22-Sep-22
Grape vines are magic.

22-Sep-22
I’ve had good luck with vines, great luck making under a beech tree and using the beech branch. One of my best I made was a cut limb under a pine. Branch broke off but I have pics of deer standing up on hind legs to reach the lowest line branch now to make the scrape and lick the branch etc.

From: deerhunter72
22-Sep-22
Thanks for all of the information! I was out last weekend helping some friends move a stand and I cut several lengths of vines. Just got to get out to the woods and get a few up. The video above has a lot of great information.

From: Ironbow
22-Sep-22
Wish we had grape vines. All we have is poison ivy vines!

From: JL
22-Sep-22
Use a 2 - 3 foot stick tied to a higher branch or limb. Let it hang vertical.

From: BUCKeye
22-Sep-22
I've had about equal success with grape vine and hemp rope. Both work great.

From: JL
22-Sep-22
FWIW....the vert stick method.....

From: t-roy
22-Sep-22

t-roy's embedded Photo
t-roy's embedded Photo
deerhunter72……..you commented in your first post about it being a little late to be messing with them. I think you’ve still got plenty of time to get them put out. I first tried the ropes (and the Smokey’s scent) but didn’t have much success with it. Some guys have had good luck with it, though. The grapevines have worked much better for me. I’m starting to change out the vines each year. Seems like they tend to get brittle and I’ve had bucks snap several of them off while working them. If they get broken off too high, the deer seem to quit utilizing the scrape.

From: deerhunter72
22-Sep-22

deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
t-roy, I went ahead and put out 3 vines tonight. I’ll run my cameras in a couple weeks and see what I get. I put them in travel routes where there are scrapes every year. Pretty sure Smokey’s is what Higgins works well for him. I’ve got some rope, so I might throw one of those up after the season.

From: Zbone
24-Sep-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Must have been in my twenties or thirties years ago when started messing with vines after I noticed a heck of a scrape hanging under a broke wild grape vine... It was kinda out of place where it was and not really in a good spot you would have thought a scrape should have been... The deer had to kinda go out of their way to get to it... It got my attention, kinda like the very few cedar trees in my area, and if you see any, they all get rubbed and bucks go out of their way to reach them too... Anyhow after I started looking for hanging vines and notice most hanging vine had scrapes under them, so I began tearing down vines I could reach in good spots, and yeah deer started using them and surprisingly some does I observed while hunting as licking branches... This was way before trail cams but hadn't really realized how much they used them year round... It wasn't until the Wensels wrote a piece on hanging ropes did it occur to me that a person could relocate a piece of vine to where they wanted.... I'm like duh, why didn't I think of that... But yeah, they work great, both vines and rope, and have video of deer inspecting them year round...

Am now going with grape vine section with 5/8" hemp rope tie-wrapped to it, the best of both worlds, the vine to keep it stiffer and the rope to help absorb any kind of natural deer scent left behind... From the bottom of the vine, I leave about a 6 - 8" tail of rope with a overhand knot at the end... I think another key is the height, and was placing them about chest to chin high about 48 - 53" above ground.... Am still experimenting with the height... Photo attached of button buck rearing up to reach rope... Photo was taken 3 years ago, have since lowered the height... How high are youenz?

From: Pat Lefemine
24-Sep-22

Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Grape vines for me too. Absolute magnets for some inexplicable reason

From: deerhunter72
24-Sep-22
Zbone, I thought chest high was the right height, which on me isn’t very high because I’m 5’8”. I always thought bigger bucks liked a higher licking branch, but according to several videos I watched lower is ok/better. I went waist high.

From: Kodiak
25-Sep-22
Interesting, I've never used or even heard of a vine or rope being used. What a great idea.

From: Mint
26-Sep-22
I think the like the way the vine/rope hangs down so it is easier for them to transfer the pre-orbital scent. I found a great scape where a broken branch was hanging down like a vine/rope.

From: JL
26-Sep-22
Someone with some bucks around should hang a cam overlooking a collection of hanging things to see how the bucks react to the different things. Somethings I can think of to experiment with.....maybe the vine, rope, stick, branch...heck, hang an old rattling horn(s) and see how they react to those. Me and mama are hitting the road on Thursday and will be gone for a while. Otherwise I'd try the rattling horn idea and see if the deer would react to it. The bucks might like the noise it would make.

From: Zbone
26-Sep-22
JL - Hmmm, hanging a antler sounds interesting (pun intended), good thinking... I might actually try that... They may like that tickling around with their rack while working a limp/vine/rope... Could be interesting, you may have started a new trend...8^)

BTW, that photo of the button buck rearing up to reach the rope was lower when the limb was in full foliage when I placed it, and I never took the time to re-lower it after the tree shed it's leaves... On some limbs it make a difference, leaf weight is something to consider...

From: JL
26-Sep-22
Z...please try that and hang a cam on the antler. I'm curious what the deer's reaction would be. Ya....I could see a buck tickling the antler and attracted to the noise.

From: Zbone
26-Sep-22
Yeah, will do...

From: t-roy
26-Sep-22
Better hang the antler up pretty high. My guess is, it will be on the ground in less than a week.

From: JL
26-Sep-22
Me thinks if a buck rips it down....I'd put it back up and consider hunting that spot on the opener and the rut phases.

From: deerhunter72
26-Sep-22
Interesting idea. Never would’ve thought about hanging some antlers.

From: Zbone
29-Sep-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
This is what I started with today, a rope and/or vine has been hanging here half dozen years or so and is a year round licking branch/scrape used by both does and bucks, but currently there isn't an active scrape under it...

Am dealing with COVID right now but needed to get out of the house for a while so decide to try and hang a shed... It's a short walk a little over a hundred yards where I'm going to go so figure I could make it that far...

If you notice my limb is now dead... The rope knot is hanging around belly high, and I get a new piece of grapevine and suspend it a couple feet or so to the side where the bottom is about chest high... It looked good, so procede to hang an old shed about a couple feet to the other side, but in the process the whole dead limb breaks off... urrrr...

From: Zbone
29-Sep-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Am exhausted from COVID so I take a little break and sit on a downed log... Notice this in a corner of a field I have winter rye growing mainly between the mowed grasses and weeds...8^) The fallen logs out in the field are from a dead snag just downed a week or so and haven't had time to clean it up yet...

Not my choice, but I had to move to another tree... Anyhow, this is what I ended up with... Wish I could have cleaned up this new limb a little but forgot to bring a pruner with me...The antler is about my nose level high...

From: Zbone
29-Sep-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Before my completion, setting on one of the logs thinking over what to do for about 10 minutes and taking it all in on this fall evening,,, I stand up and out in the high weeds below, a loud snort and a nice buck bounds away... I'm here every day looking out the window all the time and this was the first time I'd seen that buck, and he wasn't one of the 2 little basket racks thats been there all summer... Will see how long it takes him to find my project... I'll try to get a trail cam mounted in the near future...

From: deerhunter72
01-Oct-22

deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
Good work Zbone! I’ll be interested to see if the bucks like those antlers.

I pulled cards today and 2 of my vines and mock scrapes have seen a lot of activity. One more than the other two. Lots of does and several small bucks are using them. We still have crops in so hopefully things will pick up soon, but still I’m impressed so far.

From: Zbone
01-Oct-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
That's cool deerhunter72, that's a nice buck there too... Is that your target buck?

Went back yesterday placed a trail cam and pruned the small branches off my new limb... The limb is so small after pruning the less weight raised my hangs a few inches... So again I set and thought it over and ended up reorganizing and dropped the shed to height of where I thought if a buck worked the rope hopefully the shed would tickle his rack.... This time I tied the shed paracord with half hitches to adjust if I get hopeful video.. Will try to pull the trail cam card tomorrow...

From: JL
01-Oct-22
I'll be watching this antler experiment to see how it goes.

From: deerhunter72
01-Oct-22

deerhunter72's embedded Photo
This guy would be hard to let walk on by.
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
This guy would be hard to let walk on by.
Zbone, that buck has been around some since I’ve had my cameras out this summer. Don’t really have a target buck yet, although there is one that would be hard to let go. Still hoping for another mature buck or two to show up once the crops are out.

From: Zbone
02-Oct-22
Pulled the SD card today, but unfortunately the trail-cam I had there the past couple years wouldn't power up so I trashed it and broke out a new cheapo trail-cam I bought a few years ago on clearance for like $50 for 2... Anyhow I did get video but the quality is poor especially nighttime video...

Got no video of deer under the hangs so am thinking this cheap camera is too far away to trigger, but I did get some very interesting video... While I was reorganizing the hangs, trimming limbs and whacking a little bit of brush for clear camera view, a doe and basketrack 6-point came out from the other end of the field about 50 or 60 yards or so... I seen them come out while I was sitting taking a break, petting and talking to my dog... They seen me and knew I was there but they're kinda humanized seeing me in the yard all the time doing things, mowing, etc... They can be 30 yards or so away in the field when I walk out the house to my vehicles and never run... Heck, half the time they don't run when I let the dog out and she runs and barks at them... Since I've been home sick since Tuesday deer have been in my field every day in the middle of the day a lot... Ironically a buddy texted me yesterday saying he's been seeing deer behind his house all week during the middle of day... The cool weather change here this past week may have something to do with it...

So anyhow, there I was watching the deer come out to feed while they know I'm there... I get up and proceed to whack weeds and they continue their thing... After a few minutes, I sit down to take another break, and here they come... They're like, "What are you doing not moving"...8^) They come within bow range before they get nervous and start stomping and eventually blow and bound off out of there...

On the card 2 hours and 10 minutes later, a doe (I assume the same one) cautiously appears on the video just in front of the camera and starts inspecting the brush stuble I just cut...8^) She did a very thorough inspection then walked away out of view and then a bit later the 6-point comes into view and does his thorough inspection... Then a little later another different basketrack 6-point appears and does his inspection, then later another backetrack 6-point appears for inspection... I think they all knew I was there and all wanted to know what I was doing...8^) They were really curious about my trimmings and never approached the hangs...

I'd seen 2 of those little bucks hanging together off and on throughout the year but didn't realize there were 3 of them, and they all have different configured racks...

Took a tape measure with me and the bottom of the shed is hung 59" off the ground, I think it still may be a little high...

Gonna try to relocate the trail-cam tomorrow for better video...

From: Zbone
02-Oct-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Screenshot of the doe video... I left the site at 16:10, so it was just 2 hours, 5 minutes...

From: Zbone
02-Oct-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo

From: Zbone
02-Oct-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo

From: deerhunter72
02-Oct-22
Cool stuff! Keep us updated.

From: Zbone
02-Oct-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo

From: Zbone
02-Oct-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo

From: Hancock West
02-Oct-22

Hancock West's embedded Photo
Hancock West's embedded Photo
I made my first mock scrape last year with a grape vine and had bucks & does on it within a day

From: Jon Simoneau
04-Oct-22

Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo
Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo
I kept track of this buck for 3 years with mock scrapes before I got him.

From: t-roy
04-Oct-22
^^^Jon……pics, or it didn’t happen! That’s a stud!

From: Jon Simoneau
04-Oct-22

Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo
Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo
He definitely provided me with a couple of my best seasons as I hunted him.

From: Jon Simoneau
04-Oct-22

Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo
Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo

From: Jon Simoneau
04-Oct-22

Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo
Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo

From: SBH
04-Oct-22
Awesome deer Jon. Did you kill him over the scrape or nearby?

From: Catscratch
04-Oct-22
What a buck! How much did he weigh and what was his inside spread? Congrats!

From: Jon Simoneau
04-Oct-22
Thanks guys. I did not kill him over the scrape. I used the mock scrape in the same location each year to confirm of he was alive or not. Eventually I figured out that he would only move with the wind at his advantage and I killed him as he was quartering into the wind. I did not weigh him. He is 24.5 inches wide inside. He measured right at 180” gross.

From: deerhunter72
04-Oct-22
Wow! That's my dream buck right there. Must be at least 24" inside spread. Congratulations

From: Scoot
04-Oct-22
Awesome buck and great example of how to make use of mock scrapes!

From: deerhunter72
04-Oct-22
Smart deer and he sure is beautiful! Good use of the scrapes.

From: Zbone
05-Oct-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Video pulled yesterday not so good... A mature doe didn't want any part of the hanging shed... Approached it very cautiously head bobbing like they do and eventually skirted around it, would not walk underneath... I'm like hmmm, maybe this hanging antler thing not so good of idea... But then a little later one of the little 6-pointers walked right up to the rope, worked it and opened a scrape... Didn't touch the vine and as screenshot reveals the antler is to high to engage and the knot at bottom of rope is 53" off the ground and it's too high, so I moved the shed over to a different tree as not to spook the does and readjusted the camera... Will try to spend some time today for different setups...

From: Zbone
05-Oct-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Going to go with this setup a while since the doe didn't want to pass under the shed so I moved it over to another tree about 10' or so and as can see placed it about belly high and attached a fresh cut little branch next to it... Placing the hanging shed kind out of the way from normal deer travel pattern from woods opening, theory is a buck might walk over and work the branch and hopefully tickle the antler... Would like to see the reaction...

Also dropped the rope a few inches and added another trail-cam hoping to get some good video...

From: deerhunter72
06-Oct-22
Interesting experiment!

From: JL
06-Oct-22
This is a good to watch.

From: Zbone
16-Oct-22
Those interested, thought I'd update... Seems October lull here, haven't caught a buck on video since October 4th, and the few times a doe or fawn passes the hangs, no reaction at all by any of them... Things will start heating up in a few days, chasing around here usually begins around the 20th - 23rd...

From: Scrappy
16-Oct-22
I can see it now walking through the woods and deer antlers hanging everywhere. A new industry is being invented right before our eyes. We can sell a piece of grapevine and a piece of deer antler as a scrape starter kit. We just need us a poaching celeb to be the face of our business. Now that the bowmars are pleading guilty next month we can hire them.

From: Zbone
17-Oct-22
Thant's funny Scrappy...8^)))

After coming home from work yesterday one of the little 6-point basketracks was playing house with a doe near the house and by the way they were acting lovey dovey laying together, I'll bet a cookie she is in estrus or near it... Made note of it, October 16th, earliest I've seen a buck and doe hooked up like that... Could be an early fawn in my back yard next spring... If it hadn't been for football and Tribe game I would have walked back and retrieved the SD cards to see if any action under the hangs on video... Will try and retrieve the cards today after work...

From: deerhunter72
17-Oct-22
Zbone, thanks for the update. Keep after it!

So far, I've been very impressed by the amount of action the vines have been getting in my woods. Not all, but most deer that walk by give them a smell. Things should be getting good in the next few weeks.

From: Zbone
18-Oct-22
Very slow at my site, too much acorn and nut mass for them to use this opening, but with the minimal deer traffic there, finally a mature doe came and give a good sniff of the rope... She paid no attention to the vine, then surprisingly, turned then went out of her way and walked over to the hanging shed and gave it a good sniff... It did not spook her like the other one before... And interestingly, after she sniffed the shed, she gave the hanging branch I placed there a good once over too, then sniffed the ground below as if expecting a scrape to be there...

From: Zbone
18-Oct-22
For some reason can't post the photo....

From: Zbone
18-Oct-22
Try again

From: Zbone
18-Oct-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo

From: Zbone
18-Oct-22
Sniffing the shed...

From: JL
18-Oct-22
That's cool about the shed sniffer. When I get back in MI.....I'll set up a single antler or a cap (both) and see what happens. I'll wash it with baking soda first and then put some scent on it.

From: Zbone
19-Oct-22
Yeah JL, let us know how that goes... Ya know, speaking of scent on the shed, I didn't think of baking soda to clean it at the time... That shed I found many years ago was rodent chewed, tips gone, and been in my dog's kennel for 5 years... I know that because I put it in her kennel when she was a puppy and she is now 5... I don't think she's gnawed on it one bit... Anyhow it was kinda a rush job when I took it out of her kennel and rinsed it under the sink... Thought about maybe spraying it with bleach cleaner then decided against it and just rinsed and rubbed it a few times with paper towels... Never thought of baking soda, good idea... It's been out there hanging while weathering a couple weeks now so imagine dog and human scent are gone by now... As said, she was interested in it as she was with the placed branch... Next few weeks are going to be interesting...

From: Zbone
01-Nov-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Those interested, being November 1st and hadn't updated since October 19th, I pulled SD cards today... Since the doe sniffed the shed on Oct 17th, it wasn't until Oct 21st any deer appeared when a doe and fawns walked through the view without any attention to any hangs... The next action wasn't for two days on Oct 23rd when two family groups of does and skippers came bouncing through tails in the air spooked during midday... What spooked them, couldn't say... Then the next deer to appear was 5:04 PM on Oct 24th when one of the basket-6s came by and worked my tiewrapped overhanging limb first then went over to the rope and worked it (photo attached) but didn't pay one bit of attention to the hanging shed... Finally a buck, hadn't had a buck in view there since Oct 4th, thats been three weeks... The next hit wasn't until five days later on Oct 29 at 8:20 AM, when a new dink showed up and worked the rope... Don't know where he came from, hadn't seen or caught him on film before, has long spikes with 2 small brow points... I'll call him a 2x2...8^) Then two days ago on Oct 30th at midday 3:10 PM the same basket-6 stopped in full view, mouth gaping open and panting looking back over his shoulder, paused a couple seconds then trotted into the woods... This guy (same photoed) looks like a basket-8 but he's only a 3x3 without brow tines... He's been the buck I've most seen throughout the year, he's been in the backyard quite a bit... What he was running from or to so hard, I can only guess rutting activity...

Nothing since... For those keeping track, that's 4 dink bucks and zero mature bucks filmed, so I wizzed under the rope today...8^)

From: Inshart
02-Nov-22
Very interesting for sure!

From: Blood
02-Nov-22
In CT there is zero activity. No scrapes. No rubs. Nothing happening. Should be littered with sign by now in the woods. No acorns either. Another one of the weirdest years. Last year…..all the movement was at night. Everything.

From: deerhunter72
02-Nov-22
Thanks for the update Zbone! The vines I hung are getting lots of action from does and bucks alike. I’ve been pretty impressed with it.

From: APauls
02-Nov-22

APauls's embedded Photo
APauls's embedded Photo
APauls's embedded Photo
APauls's embedded Photo

From: APauls
02-Nov-22

APauls's embedded Photo
APauls's embedded Photo
APauls's embedded Photo
APauls's embedded Photo

From: APauls
02-Nov-22

APauls's embedded Photo
APauls's embedded Photo
Also not too proud to let a good natural scrape go to waste! ;)

From: blue spot
02-Nov-22
Z-bone, appreciate the update on the science project. It is fun following along But you are obviously not a trapper if you think the dog stink is off that antler from just rinsing it in water. That antler has absorbed a lot of dog stink from being in a kennel for 5 years! back in high school I recall catching a fox in a dirt hole set I hadn't lured or tended for 2-3 weeks because I was too busy to pull it and it was too easy to check from the cab of the truck. So I am confident your deer can still smell your dog, I just make no assumptions on how they feel about it

And for the record, I am not seeing the usual number of scrapes I usually see this week of the year. Haven't even seen the single serving disposable scrapes that get made everywhere this time of year. south west Maine/south east NH Erik

From: Zbone
02-Nov-22
Hi blue spot... Believe it or not, I was/am a trapper, not saying a good fox trapper, but have caught fox on dirt hole sets...8^))) I thought about the dog scent too, but it's been weathering there now for 5 weeks, doubt much dog scent is left, and besides if they were that sensitive to it, they would know it is my dog and not another dog, and that my dog is harmless out there in that field peeing and pooping daily...8^) Which opens a new can of worms, can a deer recognize one canine from another strictly from scent... Hmmmm....

Cool stuff APauls, thanks for sharing, wish my vine received that kind of action, but forgot to add in my last post I think I may have reason for such an October lull at my site...

Two summers ago (before Biden's ignoration) they ran a big pipeline across a road and adjacent properties a few hundred yards away which I would aways hear loud heavy equipment and chain saws from my property... I don't drive that road much but the pipeline construction lasted over a year and would periodically hear them working on the road crossing after and think nothing of it, but hadn't heard equipment over there this year until a month or so ago when I started hearing chain saws and heavy equipment again, so at the time thought they were doing cleanup work or more road work, until the other day I drove by there and see they are building a new house.... urrrrrr..... I know it's changed deer patterns... How much is to still be determined...

From: APauls
02-Nov-22
I'm just not out hunting and needed a fix and was hoping I'd get the ball rolling and tons of people would start posting up scrap pics! lol

From: blue spot
02-Nov-22
sorry to hear about the new neighbor. Hopefully they don't "bait" the deer off your place with the new land scaping ! Sounds like you are more of a trapper than I am. Haven't done any serious fur trapping since college in the late 80's/early 90's. Damn that makes feel old to say that.

As I said, I make no claim the dog stink affects the deer but my suspicion is they aren't attracted to dog toys much even if they don't turn them off. But I still like following your experiment. Any thing that is a constant that doesn't bother the deer isn't likely to spook them, at least until it is something new or out of place or context.

From: lv2bohunt
02-Nov-22

lv2bohunt's embedded Photo
I hunt mock scrapes every year
lv2bohunt's embedded Photo
I hunt mock scrapes every year

From: lv2bohunt
02-Nov-22

lv2bohunt's embedded Photo
Sometimes I even get lucky
lv2bohunt's embedded Photo
Sometimes I even get lucky

From: lv2bohunt
02-Nov-22
This buck was 1 of 3 nice bucks that I had pictures of beginning late September at the scrape and kept seeing them on camera into October and finally connected with this one in November. All pictures were in daylight.

From: Bearman
02-Nov-22

Bearman's embedded Photo
Bearman's embedded Photo
Bearman's embedded Photo
Bearman's embedded Photo
This scrape has been here for over 20 years. I'd say I get 30_40 different bucks on cams every year.

From: deerhunter72
02-Nov-22
Great buck Mark!

Funny how there are scrapes in the same place year after year. Must be something the deer have figured out.

From: Zbone
03-Nov-22
lv2bohunt - Yeah, great buck, CONGRATS!

WOW Bearman, that is one heck of a scrape!

Yeah me neither blue spot, hadn't used a steel jaw trap probably since the 80s but did carry a state certified nuisance trapping licence for a few years until a job change, but that was mainly raccoon, groundhog and skunk complaints trapped in cage traps... Once was contacted by a nice ole gentleman who said coon was getting into he cat food... Said he thinks there were 4 of them, a mama and 3 babies.... Well, I caught 23 raccoons and 3 opossum in one cage trap at the same location and never moved the trap...8^))) And was proud I never caught any if his cats the whole time neither...8^) Didn't charge the nice man in which he granted me permission to bowhunt and killed a nice buck the following November on his property... It was peak rut but hadn't had a chance to scout the property, so first day bow in hand took a climber and set up in a good looking spot in a small saddle, and swear I wasn't in that tree less than a half hour and this nice buck came cruising by and made the shot...8^)

Yeah, that new house construction is a bummer, with many or most of the leaves now down, I can see it from my deck, and to top it off, they placed it within the deer's travel corridor...8^(

Just read the JL bear thread, he posted on this thread... Would like to give my deepest condolences to JL's family and friends... So sorry for their loss...

From: deerhunter72
03-Nov-22

deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
Vine/scrape action

From: deerhunter72
03-Nov-22

deerhunter72's Link
Buck standing under vine.

Very sad about JL. Only 61, gone too soon.

From: Murph
03-Nov-22
I tried something new this year here in NC Nebraska hunting isolated groves in cattle country set a fresh cut cedar log about 3” diameter and pegged oak branches into it where you can’t find an oak tree for miles made a mock scrape under it and doctored it with plenty of conquest dominate buck and tinks 69 hardly a deer in the area can resist it does fawns bucks of all sort for 3 weeks now card has 6-700 pics per week set on a 10 sec interval plenty of action it works in my part of the world anyway best legal bait I know of

From: Zbone
03-Nov-22
Cool photos Greg, thanks for sharing... I assume that's a button buck and doe fawn sharing that vine? Way cool...

Yeah, so sad to hear about JL.... Makes me think... I turned 63 yesterday and were I am at in life...

Thumbs up to Murph, but we need pix...8^)

From: t-roy
03-Nov-22

t-roy's embedded Photo
t-roy's embedded Photo
They work pretty good even where we have plenty of trees, as well, Murph. I like to use pines, but they’re hard to come by in my neck of the woods. Cedars and basswoods work pretty well, too. Even cedar fence posts will oftentimes work. I’ve got a triple threat setup in the pic. Rubbin post, grapevine and a fresh hickory branch. Hickory seems to stay pliable and not break easily for a season.

From: t-roy
03-Nov-22

t-roy's embedded Photo
t-roy's embedded Photo
This is a cedar fence post they were rubbing on, in a different area. I relocated it to a favorable spot and they stared hitting it right away.

I could see where one out in wide open country with no trees, would be extremely attractive, Murph.

From: woodguy65
04-Nov-22

woodguy65's embedded Photo
woodguy65's embedded Photo
I use cedar 4x4's - and oak branches and also use pine when I can find it as well - (have one stand that has pine close by).

From: woodguy65
04-Nov-22

woodguy65's embedded Photo
woodguy65's embedded Photo

From: woodguy65
04-Nov-22

woodguy65's embedded Photo
woodguy65's embedded Photo
This one has the pine

From: beemann
04-Nov-22

beemann's embedded Photo
beemann's embedded Photo
I sank this post on a spot where the nearest tree is two miles away. It turned the spot into a lunatic asylum.. Every buck in the area has to check it out. A scrape the size of a kids pool will be there by the end of November.... Fun stuff....

From: beemann
04-Nov-22

beemann's embedded Photo
beemann's embedded Photo
One more.

From: KHNC
04-Nov-22
T-roy, your bucks look under nourished? Are there not many food sources out your way this year? :) Fat some beeches!

From: Zbone
04-Nov-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Thanks for the rubbing post pix... Had seen pix before of open country rubbing posts (including fence posts) I think going back to one of Wensel's books but hadn't really thought about trying one in my area with limitless rubbing trees, but started thinking of trying one now... I was headed out to stand this afternoon and remembered I had a few pressurized posts that'd been out weathering a while... The one on the left am keeping for a security light, which of the two on the right should I try, the 4x4 square or the 4x3 flat/round? I know they are pressurized wood but don't remember what kind, but imagine some kind of pine, does it really matter pine or cedar, or pressurized?

Thanks for any input...

From: Murph
04-Nov-22
I don’t know that it matters my local telephone company uses penta treated pine posts to mark their fiber optic cable in the county ROW have never seen one that deer haven’t rubbed and many look like an hour glass and their literally along a dirt road ditch their 4”-5” corner posts

From: Zbone
04-Nov-22
Murph - Did you use any kind of scent or anything to get then start rubbing? Thanks...

From: Zbone
04-Nov-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Am on vacation and since things still kinda slow the past three days with only one of the basket-6s, a button and a couple does hitting the rope, and the vine wasn't getting hit at all decided to do one more and final hanging adjustment to my science project...8^)

I think the house construction hosed things up... Had another neighbor with construction going on the other side of me and watched and listened to a tracko work most of the afternoon into evening on the new house across the hill, so I moved the vine over a few feet and let it hang low to knee high, with a short fork above chest high and left the paracord end hand belly high...

If ya look behind just to the right of the big white oak trunk between the view of the hanging fork, you'll see a fresh rub on a tiny sapling that wasn't there Tuesday, but didn't catch it on video.... Urrrr, I need a decent trai-cam...

From: Zbone
05-Nov-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Dont have a post set yet, so brainstorming today, a mighty oak snag fell into the middle of my field last year too big for me to cut up, and although deer will jump over the thick trunk they usually walk around the top end and actually have a slight trail so made a branch extention attaching arching vine over the small trail... Am curious to see if it'll receive any action... Don't have a trail-cam on it, but I can see it from my windows...8^)

From: Murph
05-Nov-22
Zbone, Started out with tinks and conquest scents but I’m no expert I’m as green as grass on this deal theirs plenty on this forum that have this deal mastered by the looks of it

From: Zbone
05-Nov-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
The tree trunk actually creates a natural hide...

From: Zbone
05-Nov-22
Thanks Murph...

From: Murph
05-Nov-22
Zbone, Started out with tinks and conquest scents but I’m no expert I’m as green as grass on this deal theirs plenty on this forum that have this deal mastered by the looks of it

From: woodguy65
05-Nov-22
"I know they are pressurized wood but don't remember what kind, but imagine some kind of pine, does it really matter pine or cedar, or pressurized?"

I don't necessarily think it matters round vs square, but I purposely avoid treated lumber, if I have a choice. I use 4x4x8 square natural cedar post, a natural cedar/pine tree in that size would be great as well if you can find one. I also shred some of the corners with a sharp knife to get it going and bring the scent out, I dont use any store bought pee scent - but I always pee in them. But nothing trumps location. Im sure whatever you use will draw some interest.

From: Zbone
09-Nov-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Science project update - The hanging fork/vine/paracord got some doe attention the past couple days with 2 different does... Three bucks cruised by but hadn't the time to stop to investigate because they were too busy chasing does...8^)

This lone doe inspected the vine first...

From: Zbone
09-Nov-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Then surprisingly, checked out the paracord... Didn't think it was big enough for her to notice, but she did....

From: Zbone
09-Nov-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Then she brought her attention to the limb fork, then walked over the rope, inspected the ground beneath, then back to the hanging fork... After, she approached the hanging shed but was very skidish about it... Am thinking she is probably the same doe that didn't like it before...

I like this setup, gonna let it go for a while...

Haven't seen any action at the field deadfall vine, although I'm not looking out the window all the time... 8^)

From: Zbone
09-Nov-22
Also wanted to add, notice her tail half arched the whole time.... Is she in estrus???? She was alone, and coming to a scrape...

From: Zbone
09-Nov-22

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
33 hours, 50 minutes later, a different doe with twin fawns in tow investigating with her tail down the whole time...

From: DaveHowell
18-Nov-22

DaveHowell's embedded Photo
DaveHowell's embedded Photo
DaveHowell's embedded Photo
DaveHowell's embedded Photo
DaveHowell's embedded Photo
DaveHowell's embedded Photo
First year that I’ve hung vines and used cameras. Fun stuff!

From: deerhunter72
19-Nov-22

deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
deerhunter72's embedded Photo
My son killed this buck yesterday during the IL gun season. He was very active all summer and hit the vines often once I got them up.

  • Sitka Gear