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Buffalo1 12-Nov-22
fuzzy 12-Nov-22
Tracker 12-Nov-22
Bob H in NH 12-Nov-22
Bob H in NH 12-Nov-22
Buffalo1 16-Dec-22
Groundhunter 16-Dec-22
Buffalo1 17-Dec-22
Buffalo1 17-Dec-22
Beendare 17-Dec-22
Buffalo1 17-Dec-22
t-roy 17-Dec-22
timex 17-Dec-22
drycreek 17-Dec-22
Buffalo1 17-Dec-22
Rocky D 18-Dec-22
glidingindian 18-Dec-22
glidingindian 19-Dec-22
WI Shedhead 19-Dec-22
Buffalo1 19-Dec-22
elkmtngear 19-Dec-22
glidingindian 20-Dec-22
badbull 21-Dec-22
Groundhunter 21-Dec-22
glidingindian 25-Dec-22
Buffalo1 26-Dec-22
grossklw 27-Dec-22
glidingindian 27-Dec-22
Buffalo1 20-Jan-23
fuzzy 21-Jan-23
Chuckster 21-Jan-23
From: Buffalo1
12-Nov-22
Anyone have any personal knowledge or experience with shoulder arthritis? Interested in hearing your story- how serious of a case, treatment and impact on shooting a bow. Tks

From: fuzzy
12-Nov-22
PM me I had shoulder impingement surgery in 2020

From: Tracker
12-Nov-22
I had chronic shoulder issues after injuries and 4 surgeries. I had a stem cell injection and my results have been life changing. Its been 3years since my treatment and pain is gone and I shoot my bow regularly.

From: Bob H in NH
12-Nov-22
Soon. My wife is having her shoulder scoped on Dec 2.

Hope to get my golf, fishing and hunting partner back. She currently can't draw her bow

Arthritis and bone spur

From: Bob H in NH
12-Nov-22
Soon. My wife is having her shoulder scoped on Dec 2.

Hope to get my golf, fishing and hunting partner back. She currently can't draw her bow

Arthritis and bone spur

From: Buffalo1
16-Dec-22
I met with shoulder surgeon today. I have shoulder surgery scheduled for 1/3/23. Surgeon will "scope" shoulder and clean out scar tissue & debris and reattach bicep tendons, if necessary.

Any bowsiters experienced this type of shoulder surgery. Would love to hear your post surgery experiences and recovery/rehab time.

I have already had rotator cuff surgery on both shoulders. I could write a medical paper on these surguries.

Thanks

From: Groundhunter
16-Dec-22
Well just had a MRI on right shoulder. Have a tear in the rotator cuff. Go in on Feb 7th. Shoulder full of arthritis and no pain. I told them because I work out daily in the water. They were amazed at that. Anyway if I can get in earlier they will call. Medical College of Wis and Froedert hospital. All I can do now is aqua jog in deep water have to keep right shoulder quiet.

From: Buffalo1
17-Dec-22
Ground hunter,

Best to you on your upcoming surgery. I have had both shoulders “rotator cuffed”. He a good surgeon, follow PT directions and recovery and rehab should hopefully go well. Ice will be your “new best friend !”

From: Buffalo1
17-Dec-22
Ground hunter,

Best to you on your upcoming surgery. I have had both shoulders “rotator cuffed”. He a good surgeon, follow PT directions and recovery and rehab should hopefully go well. Ice will be your “new best friend !”

From: Beendare
17-Dec-22
I have arthritis- in a lot of places actually not just my shoulder.

A good PT and band exercises have helped relieve the pain and kept me from going under the knife. It might be worth talking to One first.

In my case, the way I was drawing my bow impinged on my shoulder joint. Doing the correct exercises to strengthen that area and the correct draw have pretty much solved my problems for now.

It’s hard to describe without actually showing someone in person but essentially my shoulders were slightly tilted forward when I was drawing. This creates an impingement in your rotator cuff. Do that for many years and you will get arthritis and other issues.

In my case, A combination of consciously rotating my shoulders back before drawing and the corresponding rotator cuff series of exercises keeps that joint open and strong and no pain.

From: Buffalo1
17-Dec-22
Beendare,

I have been through MRI, 2 cortisone shots and much PT. I have got "trash" in shoulder and possible bicep tendon tear. Surgery is the only option.

Currently unable to draw & hold bow and cannot shoulder a rifle. Lord only knows what recoil would do to shoulder. I have lost my 2022 deer hunting season and trying to get in "shoulder shape" for 2023 season.

From: t-roy
17-Dec-22
Hope you get positive results with your surgery, Greg!

From: timex
17-Dec-22
Broke 3 ribs,right wrist and dislocated my right shoulder in a motorcycle crash in my early 20s I've suffered with shoulder pain ever since. 61 now and my shoulder pain has actually eased up a bit but I have extremely limited range of motion in that arm. 40lb trad bows and 55lb compound is the most I care to shoot these days. I'm currently hunting with an Oneida phoenix at 50lb.

From: drycreek
17-Dec-22
I hope everything turns out well for you Greg. I have shoulder problems too, but if I do my band exercises daily it does them a world of good. My biggest problem is remembering to do them daily. I usually wait until one or the other starts hurting.

Let me know how it turns out.

From: Buffalo1
17-Dec-22
When PT & bands are not working, but only making matters worse, common sense tell one to stop doing them.

My shoulder is just like having trash in the eye- the more it is rubbed, the worse it is irritated and the worse the condition get. The only way to resolve the problem is to flush the and remove the debris so the eye can heal.

From: Rocky D
18-Dec-22
I had my shoulderr X-rayed in August and went to physical therapy appointment and was informed that I didn’t have a ball at the end of the bone and no cartilage.

Doctor said that I needed a shoulder replacement. I am still trying to determine what’s my best option.

I have read some positive comments of success but have also heard of several horror stories.

18-Dec-22
As a shoulder surgeon for 29 years ( retiring next week! ) and amvictim of 4 shoulder surgeries I’ll do the best I can to generalize with some thoughts 1) shoulder pathology can be all over the place, it’s hard to give advice on a blog without specific knowledge of the symptoms, history, exam and X-rays and MRI. Be careful about what conclusions you draw without proper background 2) pick an experienced shoulder surgeon ( preferably fellowship trained but not always the case) and make sure he answers every question you have regarding surgery , risks and recovery 3) get lots of references. Ignore their marketing for most part 4) first class therapist is crucial 5) be committed, it can be rough but sometimes it’s not not too tough. DO NOT CHEAT and start back shooting, lifting etc too soon. To revise a failed shoulder surgery is usually a bitch with lower success rates.

Good luck and Godspeed on your recovery

Albert

19-Dec-22
As a shoulder surgeon for 29 years ( retiring next week! ) and amvictim of 4 shoulder surgeries I’ll do the best I can to generalize with some thoughts 1) shoulder pathology can be all over the place, it’s hard to give advice on a blog without specific knowledge of the symptoms, history, exam and X-rays and MRI. Be careful about what conclusions you draw without proper background 2) pick an experienced shoulder surgeon ( preferably fellowship trained but not always the case) and make sure he answers every question you have regarding surgery , risks and recovery 3) get lots of references. Ignore their marketing for most part 4) first class therapist is crucial 5) be committed, it can be rough but sometimes it’s not not too tough. DO NOT CHEAT and start back shooting, lifting etc too soon. To revise a failed shoulder surgery is usually a bitch with lower success rates.

Good luck and Godspeed on your recovery

Albert

From: WI Shedhead
19-Dec-22
Had the procedure your doing on 1/23/22. The surgeon said if you wake up and have a regular sling on, things went good. If Thiers an imobilizer sling on- not so good. Regular sling for me!!!!!

Had shoulder pain so bad could no longer sleep. The scoped and cleaned up the authritis, and shaved the bottom of my collar bone to relieve the bursitis. I had a 20% year in one tendon that he said d we oiled heal on its own. He reattached the bicep tendon. After a couple weeks was well into therapy. On April 17 I shot a turkey with my bow and in November shot the two biggest bucks of my life. Nearly one year later, I have 85% overhead strength in my surgery shoulder, and zero pain sleeping. It was life changing for sure. I guess what I can say to you is- 1). Follow your pt to a T 2). Make sure your pt works your shoulder out. I had a fill in one day and she was not good at all. It should be painful and sore when your done 3) follow an iceing regimin!!!!!! 4). Keep at your cardio or walking what ever!!!!!!!!! Lots of ass time you’ll put on weight in a hurry!!!!!

Good luck!!!!!!!

From: Buffalo1
19-Dec-22
Glidingindian- very solid advice. Thanks for sharing.

From: elkmtngear
19-Dec-22
My personal situation: 3 tears by MRI (rotator cuff, superior biceps tendon, and labrum).

I had PRP injections (high density platelets), in the rotator cuff, and superior biceps tendon, over 4 years ago.

I can shoot my 65 pound compound all day, still. I was seriously struggling, before the injections. I am pretty protective of the shoulder, I try not to do things to aggravate it. I stretch it regularly, and also ice it 4 days a week, by putting an ice pack on the strap of my loaded pack, when I do my treadmill run.

Just an "alternative" treatment experience, all I know is, it worked for me.

20-Dec-22
As a shoulder surgeon for 29 years ( retiring next week! ) and amvictim of 4 shoulder surgeries I’ll do the best I can to generalize with some thoughts 1) shoulder pathology can be all over the place, it’s hard to give advice on a blog without specific knowledge of the symptoms, history, exam and X-rays and MRI. Be careful about what conclusions you draw without proper background 2) pick an experienced shoulder surgeon ( preferably fellowship trained but not always the case) and make sure he answers every question you have regarding surgery , risks and recovery 3) get lots of references. Ignore their marketing for most part 4) first class therapist is crucial 5) be committed, it can be rough but sometimes it’s not not too tough. DO NOT CHEAT and start back shooting, lifting etc too soon. To revise a failed shoulder surgery is usually a bitch with lower success rates.

Good luck and Godspeed on your recovery

Albert

From: badbull
21-Dec-22
glidingindian, thanks for the post as that is of interest to all of us older bowhunters because sooner or later your information will be used by us. Badbull

From: Groundhunter
21-Dec-22
Great posts. I tore my cuff first time at 73. I went directly to a great surgeon at Foredert in Milwaukee.... he was surprised on how I had no daily pain with all the arthritis in my shoulders. I told him 300 minutes week.in the pool, aqua jogging for an hour a day. He was impressed.

25-Dec-22
As a shoulder surgeon for 29 years ( retiring next week! ) and amvictim of 4 shoulder surgeries I’ll do the best I can to generalize with some thoughts 1) shoulder pathology can be all over the place, it’s hard to give advice on a blog without specific knowledge of the symptoms, history, exam and X-rays and MRI. Be careful about what conclusions you draw without proper background 2) pick an experienced shoulder surgeon ( preferably fellowship trained but not always the case) and make sure he answers every question you have regarding surgery , risks and recovery 3) get lots of references. Ignore their marketing for most part 4) first class therapist is crucial 5) be committed, it can be rough but sometimes it’s not not too tough. DO NOT CHEAT and start back shooting, lifting etc too soon. To revise a failed shoulder surgery is usually a bitch with lower success rates.

Good luck and Godspeed on your recovery

Albert

From: Buffalo1
26-Dec-22
glidingindian,

What is your opinion of using a Game Ready Pro 2.1System vs. ice packs for icing a shoulder for 2 weeks post surgery?

Tks

From: grossklw
27-Dec-22
Buffalo1 it's like comparing a ferrari to a camry. The game ready is an ice pack on steroids, the compression feels great. I'm a PT, most of my post-op shoulders get 15-20 minutes of game ready after we're done with our session.

27-Dec-22
As a shoulder surgeon for 29 years ( retiring next week! ) and amvictim of 4 shoulder surgeries I’ll do the best I can to generalize with some thoughts 1) shoulder pathology can be all over the place, it’s hard to give advice on a blog without specific knowledge of the symptoms, history, exam and X-rays and MRI. Be careful about what conclusions you draw without proper background 2) pick an experienced shoulder surgeon ( preferably fellowship trained but not always the case) and make sure he answers every question you have regarding surgery , risks and recovery 3) get lots of references. Ignore their marketing for most part 4) first class therapist is crucial 5) be committed, it can be rough but sometimes it’s not not too tough. DO NOT CHEAT and start back shooting, lifting etc too soon. To revise a failed shoulder surgery is usually a bitch with lower success rates.

Good luck and Godspeed on your recovery

Albert

From: Buffalo1
20-Jan-23
Had arthroscopic surgery on right shoulder 1/3. Cleaned joint out of scar tissue, bursitis and clipped a smaller bicep tendon to allow more range and motion once healed. Was in low level PT for range and motion (one formal session and rest of PT at home.

Follow up dr. visit on 1/17.

Started advanced level PT which includes range and motion and strengthening on 1/18. Will be doing PT for 6 wks. Hope to be released from dr on 2/28.

PT is allowing me to putt now and may be able to start chipping golf balls in a few weeks. No date given on full swing of golf club or drawing my bow. That will be revealed with time. I am looking at a full golf tournament schedule and using down time to do research on outfitters for future hunts.

I appreciate all the advice and information shared by Bowsiters who have have personal experiences or are ortho specialist. Your input helped a lot. Tks

From: fuzzy
21-Jan-23
Buffalo1 I'm happy it went well for you. Keep up the PT and don't be tempted to overdo it.

From: Chuckster
21-Jan-23
So I had a torn labrum (2006) and torn rotator (2015) so I'm familiar with the symptoms. About a year ago, I started experiencing some discomfort in my shoulder that was getting worse over the next 3-4 months. Based on my symptoms, I thought I had a torn labrum again. My Ortho doc checked me out and suspected I had "calcification tendinitis of the supraspinatus". He gave me a shot in my shoulder and said if its not better in 3 weeks, go get an MRI. It took about 5 weeks but my shoulder is feeling much better.

Buffalo1, good luck on your recovery.

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