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Any updates on animal conditions in West
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Contributors to this thread:
Bent arrow 14-Mar-23
montnatom 14-Mar-23
StickFlicker 14-Mar-23
wildwilderness 14-Mar-23
RJ Hunt 14-Mar-23
Bowboy 14-Mar-23
'Ike' (Phone) 14-Mar-23
LUNG$HOT 14-Mar-23
[email protected] 14-Mar-23
BOHNTR 14-Mar-23
bowhunt 15-Mar-23
BULELK1 15-Mar-23
RonP 15-Mar-23
KHNC 15-Mar-23
Scoot 15-Mar-23
Inshart 15-Mar-23
KHNC 16-Mar-23
tradi-doerr 16-Mar-23
7mm08 16-Mar-23
HUNT MAN 16-Mar-23
wyobullshooter 16-Mar-23
tradi-doerr 21-Mar-23
cnelk 21-Mar-23
Whocares 21-Mar-23
cnelk 21-Mar-23
Quinn @work 21-Mar-23
Beendare 22-Mar-23
DConcrete 22-Mar-23
Mule Power 25-Mar-23
BB 27-Mar-23
SBH 27-Mar-23
Ursman 27-Mar-23
cnelk 27-Mar-23
Ursman 27-Mar-23
cnelk 28-Mar-23
Whocares 28-Mar-23
krieger 30-Mar-23
Sivart 31-Mar-23
Aspen Ghost 31-Mar-23
Bowboy 31-Mar-23
cnelk 31-Mar-23
Bent arrow 31-Mar-23
Sivart 31-Mar-23
Grey Ghost 31-Mar-23
jmiller 31-Mar-23
From: Bent arrow
14-Mar-23
Have heard it's not looking good for the elk,deer and antelope in the western states.

From: montnatom
14-Mar-23
Eastern Montana not good. Blowing and drifting snow with ice on top of more snow. Most of my deer herds have disappeared but haven't been able to get out to see why. Birds are dwindling also. Guess upside is should be green this year...

From: StickFlicker
14-Mar-23
Does "not looking good" mean winter die-off due to snow levels? In Arizona, we have had much more precipitation and snow than normal, but we very rarely (if ever) approach depths that would cause a die-off. For antler growth, the weather patterns and rain levels have been about the best in my memory. Should be a great year for those with elk tags.

14-Mar-23
Lots of extra roadkill in areas with deep snow. Will have lower animalsmnumbers in many areas for sure.

From: RJ Hunt
14-Mar-23
I’m in eastern oregon not far from Idaho and we are fine. Could even use a little more snow to be honest.

From: Bowboy
14-Mar-23

Bowboy's Link
Got this from the Western Wyoming biologist. The antelope & deer are hurting.

14-Mar-23
Not good, not good at all…

From: LUNG$HOT
14-Mar-23
Utah has been hammered hard! Driving up the canyon from Springville a couple weeks ago towards Price I counted at least 13 dead elk on side of the road and countless deer. Was sad to see. Have heard reports or large numbers starved out as well.

14-Mar-23
Big game wildlife in Northwest Colorado are condensing in the last sections of winter range refuge, trying to find any vegetation and grazing areas not buried in snow.

Wildlife typically move from higher to lower elevations when the weather turns colder, going from the mountains to the valleys, and from Routt County west toward Moffat County, said Kyle Bond, Colorado Parks and Wildlife district wildlife manager in the Steamboat Springs area.

This year’s heavy snowfall, prolonged snow on the ground and continued cold temperatures are stressing wildlife. Deeper snow in more traditional winter range areas is making it difficult for wildlife to move from one area to another in search of food, with the worst threat to fawns. More wildlife have been seen and hit on roads as the animals look for easier pathways, according to Parks and Wildlife officials.

“Big game animals are using roadways for travel to and from feeding grounds, which is leading to an increase in collisions on both country roads and highways,” said Rachael Gonzales, a public information officer for Colorado Parks and Wildlife.

In two separate accidents in mid-January, 35 pronghorns on U.S. Highway 40 near Dinosaur were hit by a semi-truck, and 18 pronghorns were hit by a pickup on a county road near Craig. Officials urge motorists not to drive distracted, slow down and pay close attention to the surroundings, especially during dawn and dusk.

In an attempt to reduce public safety hazards, Parks and Wildlife officials are conducting limited, small-scale big game baiting to lure animals away from roads, highways and human conflicts. Gonzales stressed that the temporary baiting in Moffat County is not a sustained feeding program and citizens should not set out feed.

Parks and Wildlife officials say nature is taking its normal course on the wildlife population this winter.

A cow elk walks on the roadway just outside of Steamboat Springs. Elk are one of many large game animals looking for an easier path this deep snow winter. Colorado Parks and Wildlife officials urge drivers to slow down and use extra caution especially at dusk and dawn.

“Deep snow has made it difficult for wildlife to access vegetation, leading to starvation and in some cases death,” according to a statement from Parks and Wildlife.

The shorter an animal’s legs are, the harder that animal must work to survive harsher winters.

“Pronghorn fawns are typically the first to die, then deer fawns followed by elk calves and finally adults,” Gonzales explained.

Parks and Wildlife officials say the 2007-08 winter was the toughest for wildlife during the past 20 years, followed by the winters of 2010-11 and 2016-17. Consequences to big game from this winter will not be known until April or May, but scavenger animals such as eagles and fox may be benefitting.

Parks and Wildlife officials also want to remind residents that feeding wildlife is illegal and can do more harm than good.

“Seeing animals in poor body condition or starving is hard,” Bond said. “We know people mean well when they try to help. Unfortunately, that desire to help can be more harmful. It is hard to sit back and watch, but the reality is this is nature.”

A moose stands in the middle of U.S. Highway 40 near the base of Rabbit Ears Pass on Friday, Feb. 3, 2023. Wildlife encounters like this one can be more frequent in the winter months, as the animals often use plowed roads to move from one area to another. John F. Russell/Steamboat Pilot & Today Wildlife such as deer and elk have complex digestive systems that are not adapted to handle human food, hay, alfalfa or straw. Feeding wildlife also can attract predators and increase the spread of wildlife diseases, according to Parks and Wildlife.

As winter worsened in December and January, Parks and Wildlife officers observed big game animals concentrated together in river bottom areas and near roadways as well as increasing conflicts such as elk getting into livestock feed on private lands, said Mike Swaro, an assistant area wildlife manager in the Moffat County area.

Parks and Wildlife officials request that citizens do their part to help wildlife survive. When humans or dogs encounter wildlife, the animals feel threatened and often run to escape perceived danger and burn calories needed to survive. People recreating should find less busy trails, give wildlife plenty of space, always honor trail closures and keep dogs on a leash and under control.

Steamboat Springs Parks and Wildlife officials report an uptick in sightings of wildlife in residential areas and around town this winter.

“We’ve seen an increase in calls reporting wildlife in neighborhoods asking what they can do to keep them from eating their ornamental trees and shrubbery,” said Christy Bubenheim, an administrative assistant for Parks and Wildlife. “We’re encouraging people to embrace the opportunity to see wildlife, being sure to give them space.”

Bubenheim said additional fencing or wildlife repellent products such as Plantskydd may be an option to dissuade wildlife if necessary.

This story is from SteamboatPilot.com.

From: BOHNTR
14-Mar-23
My family in WY said it’s bad….worst they’ve seen in a while. They expect a moderate deer/antelope winter kill

From: bowhunt
15-Mar-23

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Looks like Oregon is at at between 113 to 149 percent of “normal” or “median”

Don’t know how it will effect deer and elk in different areas, but spring bear will probably be a little slow to start this year.

From: BULELK1
15-Mar-23
It's great for the drought but terrible for the wintering wildlife.

This whole week is more rain and snow as it comes across on the Pineapple Express from Hawaii.

I've got a Mid-Utah photo/scouting look see trip planned for next week.

I've got till 4pm today to cancel my Airbnb for 100% refund as they are calling for 50%--75% rain again next week!!

More than likely Tag cuts across the board, in the Rocky Mnt. states.

Good luck, Robb

From: RonP
15-Mar-23
these are the credentials of the reporter in the link bowboy posted above.

"Billy Arnold has been covering the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem and the people who manage it since January 2022. He previously spent two years covering Teton County government, and a year editing Scene. "

Quite the experience and background.

From: KHNC
15-Mar-23
I havent seen anything about Whitetail being affected in Wyoming. Anyone have any idea how the Central Portion of the state is doing as far as whitetail? I would assume they have moved as low as possible, but have only seen reports on mule deer, no whitetail updates.

From: Scoot
15-Mar-23
I know you're not asking about the middle of the state, but we just got another foot of snow over the weekend. This one is going to be rough on the wildlife!

From: Inshart
15-Mar-23
North central MN is really bad. We have about 26 inches on the ground and last weekend received another 16 1/4 inches.

Watched a deer the other day - as soon as it stepped off the trail the snow was well up on it belly - it really struggled to walk.

I'm sure the timber wolves are feasting for sure.

From: KHNC
16-Mar-23
I was thinking there will be a lot of fat wolves in wyoming too.

From: tradi-doerr
16-Mar-23
Here a recent article on NW Colorado herds.

https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/winter-taking-heavy-wildlife-toll-in-northwest-colorado/article_f9430384-bf96-11ed-8644-5b5182ff96ca.html?fbclid=IwAR0a9Q_Qx5lYSOHLlCAN2sdwLxQYVW3J4zcTpDKd0jKXGkAVEIehuotLYF0

From: 7mm08
16-Mar-23
Wyoming season proposals came out today. Greatly reduced antelope tags and deer quotas. They totally removed tags in some deer areas.

It is a start.

From: HUNT MAN
16-Mar-23
Where can you see those proposals?

16-Mar-23

wyobullshooter's Link
Here ya go HUNT.

From: tradi-doerr
21-Mar-23
Finally got to talk with the local CPW staff in NW Colorado, the herds are taking a beating real bad, worst they've seen since the 90's. The young deer/elk are the hardest hit & Pronghorn over all age classes. Their concerns are the next 40+ days with what the weather will do, and it's dumping another 12" or more right now with more predicted in the next couple weeks. They are only feed baiting currently to keep the wildlife from the cattle. Still waiting to hear from the CPW region area staff around North Park, sounds like they may have some of the similar issues as the NW region. With April being one of the snowiest months and April 4th being the dead line for applications it's hard to decide what I want to do, might just have to plan for next year or another state.

From: cnelk
21-Mar-23

From: Whocares
21-Mar-23
Thanks for the video link, Brad.

From: cnelk
21-Mar-23

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Talked to my son this evening. He had to go to Craig today for work. He saw this calf elk browsing on branches on his way there.

On his way back he took this pic.

From: Quinn @work
21-Mar-23
Really wish the animals would be getting a break right now with some warmer "spring" temps but instead they're getting pounded with more snow this week.

From: Beendare
22-Mar-23
Wy Teton range elk tags cut by 90%

From: DConcrete
22-Mar-23
Northern Utah is getting slaughtered.

The whole state has very high levels of snow.

I believe the deer from about the middle of Utah, south, are fairing out just fine. A lot of winter ground down that way. Up north, not so much. Our elk in the north are suffering too.

Very much a double edged sword. We need the water. I love to snowmobile.

Guess I’d better get a few more rides in and enjoy the snow since we won’t have any deer left in some places. But our deer in Utah have been doing very poorly for about 5 years now.

From: Mule Power
25-Mar-23

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A friend from Alpine Wyoming sent these today. And to think this is un the valley. I can’t imagine what it’s like in the high country.

From: BB
27-Mar-23
I have spent quite a bit of time recently out taking photos. Winter has been brutal in Utah and Western Wyoming. I have seen many animals that have died or were on their deathbeds. So sad to see and witness, and the weather just keeps happening. Last year at this time where I live it was near 80 degrees. This year it's been over 40 degrees below normal most days and snowing a great part of each week. Sure hope it will at least turn to rain, as the animals that are left are almost at their end. The mountains east of me, where I spend a great deal of time photographing in the summer are nearing 800 inches of snow. It's the largest snowfall on record in many of the areas in Wyoming and Utah.

Good luck. BB

From: SBH
27-Mar-23

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Brutal. We got another 32" of snow this weekend in SW MT. The animals are struggling and could really use a break. Count me in for needing a breather too, haven't seen the sun for a week. Last year it was 68 on this day and we had no snow in the yard. Crazy.

From: Ursman
27-Mar-23
Game herds are suffering in northwest Colorado. Significant license reductions are proposed for the Bears Ears DAU and the White River DAU as well as the Great Divide DAU. 40% or more are mentioned. We’ll, considering Maybell had 80 inches of snow this year, it’s to be expected. Disappointment on the horizon for hunters that don’t change plans.

From: cnelk
27-Mar-23
^^^ where are you seeing the proposed tag reductions?

From: Ursman
27-Mar-23
Game herds are suffering in northwest Colorado. Significant license reductions are proposed for the Bears Ears DAU and the White River DAU as well as the Great Divide DAU. 40% or more are mentioned. We’ll, considering Maybell had 80 inches of snow this year, it’s to be expected. Disappointment on the horizon for hunters that don’t change plans.

From: cnelk
28-Mar-23

cnelk's Link
Here’s a latest press release - see link

From: Whocares
28-Mar-23

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Can't be very good in north central MN either. Over 20" snow with a hard crust now so wolves and coyotes run on top easily. More snow forecast. Been a much slower melt up here than normal. Here's my driveway this weekend.

From: krieger
30-Mar-23
I get a local WY publication daily email, they are estimating 80% winter kill of Pronghorn and deer in S and S central WY. That's catastrophic, we're talking 6-8 years from now for trophy potential.

This global warming sure is killing a bunch of critters. Worse winter than '49 the old timers say.

From: Sivart
31-Mar-23
What are the odds of the CPW being able to delay the wolf drop due to the winter kill?

From: Aspen Ghost
31-Mar-23
Sivart, I think the odds of that are zero.

From: Bowboy
31-Mar-23

Bowboy's Link
Wyoming isn’t looking good for antelope and deer herds. Even the Governor is involved.

From: cnelk
31-Mar-23
Everyone. I mean everyone should take notes about this winter of 22/23. Because it will be one that will be talked about in the future

From: Bent arrow
31-Mar-23
Spoke w/dow in meeker co. This morn. Said no suggestion to board to limit archery or muzzle loader tags. Sounds crazy if things r as bad as discussed.

From: Sivart
31-Mar-23
If CO doesn't at least cut their deer tags, I will lose what little hope I have left in that state.

From: Grey Ghost
31-Mar-23

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I spent a little time on the National Weather Service website reviewing historic snowfall data in different areas of Wyoming. 2023 is shaping up to rank near the top for some areas, but not for others.

For example, in the Casper area 2019-2020 had a total of 107.2" of snowfall. So far, they have had a total of 94.7" this year. April can obviously bring some more, but it generally averages around 10". So, the Casper area is going to have a very similar snowfall year to 2019-2020. High but not necessarily a record.

The Wamsutter area is setting a new record. They've had 101" this winter. The previous high was 92.2" in 2015-2016.

The Rock Springs area is right about at their average snowfall with 37.2"

I guess my point is, it isn't all doom and gloom everywhere. The south central part of Wyoming got the worst of the snowfall. In other areas, it's been above average, but nothing excessive.

From: jmiller
31-Mar-23
Winter is still hanging on in North Dakota. Getting tired of it. At least the potholes should have water this fall for ducks and geese.

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