No issues with any of them. Other vehicle 2001 7.3 Excursion with 440k on it. No such thing as a low miles vehicle in my family.
Matt, it's because they have a lesbian do their commercials. Of course Subaru is going to donate! Ha!
toyota quality has gone downhill, particularly fit and finish. next to an S10 blazer i owned in the 90's, my '22 tacoma is the worst assembled vehicle i have owned. squeaks, rattles, misaligned bed & rear bumper, etc. i have fixed most of it but random squeaks and rattles still come and go. i can gently tap the side of the bed above the wheels and the liners rattle.
my experience seems to be supported by some of the interweb sites i read.
point being, if you are buying a new toyota, know that they are not what they once were. other than the 4 runner, i am not sure what other models are still built in japan but i would research and choose one of those if it fit my needs.
i have no experience with subaru.
another suggestion for a small car or SUV is honda. we have had a few honda/acura vehicles and all have been reliable and well-built. i personally would choose a honda over a toyota.
My mom has a Subaru, higher end and it’s ok. It’s been reliable. Very touchy with the sensors and brakes. Have had that thing kind of freak out on me for no reason a few times. If it were me I’d buy a Camry. Wife had one for awhile and it was a great car. We should’ve kept it for sure. It was a hybrid 4cyl and had a very surprising amount of juevos and great gas mileage.
That said, that forester could drive into places in the woods that astonished folks... So if you may use it for local hunting... That's worth considering.
Oh, the Subaru is also the greatest "camo" for hunting ever. Park at a public access, some of which I hunted with it were surrounded by 3/4 million + dollar houses and you basically walked a right of way through a yard to hunt... and none of the locals would bat an eye, until they were astonished to see my wife or I don camo ha ha ha!
Not a fit for the point of this thread but would love to have one.
The wife has had really good luck with Hyundai SUV's. Kind of like the Toyota of yesteryear... cheap and fairly well built. I wouldn't be a bit hesitant to make one a hunting vehicle (if you didn't need 4 wheel drive).
Between a Corolla and an Outback, hands down Outback. For the money, Outback has a lot more room and you can sleep in it. I'd suggest buying a 2013 or newer due to timing chains instead of the previous belts. I bought my daughter a 2014 with 155,000 miles with all services done. I'm sure that thing would of went 300k miles if she didn't total it first! It was a good car for the money.
FTR- I'm a Toyota guy.
My Borister has a Stick, which is part of why I’m holding onto it. At 135k it has taught 4 teenagers to drive and clutch is still fine.
If I had the $$$ floating around, I’d be looking at the Corolla GR mid-level trim. Manual and AWD, plus great mileage if you don’t flog the turbo and some Grin Factor if you do….
Every one I get behind cant seem to get up to the posted speed limit.
IMHO you can’t go wrong with the Forester! The symmetrical AWD is amazing (I can plow snow with my bumper) and you still get 32-34 mpg! Plenty of headroom and leg room compared to the Outback and the “stance” is higher so much easier getting in and out of for a 6’ 2”+ guy. (I bang my head frequently when getting in/out of the Outback! : ( And it’s the easiest car I have ever owned to change the oil/filters on................it’s right up front on top in the engine compartment! : )
All that said, you DO have to be secure in your manhood to drive a Subaru! ;-)
I have 2006 Corolla with 152,000.... some issues but engine is strong.
greenmountain- that's another reason I prefer the Forester. I don;t think any AWD gets much better than 32-34 mpg..............................................
I saw one today which had been chopped into a micropickup - extended cab!
I’ll say that my Borister with the manual is hard pressed to top 27 mpg with much of a load in it or in hilly county. I used to get about 28 on my commute, but I hypermiled it and speeds topped out at 70-ish. A box like that can only be pushed just so hard without a steep penalty…
On the bright side, when I bought it, it was the only AWD on the road that could get that kind of mileage AND transport 3 hockey bags… and it was only about 1/2 of what people are currently paying for the “average new car” these days….
Definitely NOT looking for a truck. I have one. It’s been interesting to see how many used Toyotas and Subarus there are for sale with 150-200 thousand miles on them. If I go with a car it has to be a little sporty looking. The versatility of an suv like the Outback is appealing. Mileage has to be at least 26 city 32 highway.
That said bought a 2023 Tacoma to replace my 2012 F-150 that I bought after the 2nd Outlander was smashed. We looked at Subaru SUVs and sorry but the Outlanders always came out on top with performance, options, price, etc. Only down side was they quit offering the tailgate on it (rare in a SUV).
As far as a sedan my son is still driving his Moms Accord another one that just seems to run forever .
I likely won't buy an American vehicle again due to the rust, performance and cost.
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Ksgobbler, I have a coworker whose sister has a Nissan Altima. I think it's an '08, but they have well over 400,00 miles on it. When it went over 300,00 they got a certified letter from Nissan congratulating them on keeping the car and driving it so much.