What new or used truck???
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From: Venom16730
01-Sep-23
I have owned trucks since 1985 but haven't been in a truck since 2018. Im looking at getting back into a truck but know idea what make I want to go with. Sorta looking at Toyota, Chevrolet, Probably looking at going the slightly used route. Maybe something with very low miles. Looking at 1/2 ton. Any suggestions or input would be great .

From: HDE
01-Sep-23
Used are almost the same price as new. Something to consider. If you don't plan on trailering anything with weight to it, a 1/2 ton is the better option. Everyone has their opinion on brand. I've had Chevy, Ford, and Toyota. I won't own Chevy again, questionable on the Ford. Have a Tacoma as a run around with 230,000 miles on it and you wouldn't know it. Other than an annoying dash squeak I need to chase down, zero problems with it other than regular maintenance.

From: Hancock West
01-Sep-23
My current and last truck were GMC Sierra's. Both have been great.

From: Smtn10PT
01-Sep-23
Following this one. I need to replace my old Titan, and I want the best truck I can get in the 10-20k range. Right now that looks like its going to be a tundra with 150-175k on it. Its crazy to me what the new ones cost these days.

From: fdp
01-Sep-23
I've owned Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge and in all honesty the Dodge was/is my favorite. For all practical purposes there is very little difference in them and as mentioned it comes down to personal preference.

From: Thornton
01-Sep-23
My cousin owns a dealership and full service shop in Provo, Utah. He drives a Ford Raptor Shelby edition but says he will sell it long before 100k miles. He said, as a rule, he will not own or even try to sell Ford trucks over 100k miles with eco-boost due to all the problems and cost of keeping them on the road. This was echoed by an ER physician I worked with about 10 years ago whose brother in law was an engineer at Ford that said he would not drive his own company's vehicles past 100k. My own experiences with the 5.3, 3 valve and the V10 leave me little positive to say.

That being said, Chevy has it's small issues that are easily fixed. Valve chatter is still an issue and can be prevented if the active fuel management is deleted before or shortly after the truck reaches 100k miles. M cousin said he's worked on Chevy 5.3 V8s that have gone over 400k miles.

Not sure about Toyota, but my old friend bought them exclusively for his outfitting business and drove them for years with no complaints.

From: LUNG$HOT
01-Sep-23
Love my 2013 F-150 5.0 (no eco boost BS). It’s got 230k and still going strong with very little having ever gone wrong. Water pump, shocks/struts and a couple sensors. Solid truck.

From: Jack Harris
01-Sep-23
The Ford F-150 is longest running best-selling PU truck for good reason. I am on my second one. First one was the 2.7 Ecoboost 6 cyl, this 2021 is the 3.5... More torque then most V8s, and I get 25 mpg on highway and it tows my 21' center console boat with ease, although MPG goes down to 11 mpg. The room inside these super crew cabs is amazing - having been a Jeep GC owner for many years I regret not doing this much sooner.

From: Bake
01-Sep-23
I haven't been in the newer GM or Dodge pickups, but I have a 2022 Ford F250 and the room in the backseat is a lot more than my older dodges. If you have kids or pets or that back row is important, I would look at the fords. They also don't have the big hump in the floor from the drivetrain.

To be honest there's good and bad things about them all, really comes down to what you like in looks. I have the diesel engine in my Ford and love it. Everyone brags on the Cummins, and I liked my Cummins when I had them, but the Powerstroke has just as much power.

I won't own a GM, because I think they're ugly. I prefer the Fords and Dodges in the looks department.

From: butcherboy
01-Sep-23
I’m thinking of going brand new this time around. Truck has to last me 15-20 years or more so I want very low miles. Looking at the new GMC 2500 or 3500 in a gas engine.

From: Glunt@work
01-Sep-23
Planning on getting 250K out of my ecoboost. With proper maintenance it's common. The first gen had some issues that were addressed.

We'll see how it goes. As far as how it performs, it's great.

From: maxracx
01-Sep-23
I own a 2020 F-150 with the V8 and at this point I wouldn't own anything else. We have had zero issues.

From: Grey Ghost
01-Sep-23
"Following this one. I need to replace my old Titan, and I want the best truck I can get in the 10-20k range. Right now that looks like its going to be a tundra with 150-175k on it. Its crazy to me what the new ones cost these days."

That's about right. I just traded in a 2015 Tundra with 150K miles for a new one. The dealership gave me $20K for the trade in. I'm sure they sold it for at least $23K.

I like my new Tundra, but it sure has a lot of bells and whistles that I'll never use, and could potentially cause problems down the road. If I were looking for a good used 1/2 ton pickup, it would be a Gen 2 -2.5 Tundra with the 5.7L V8. My 2008 and 2015 Tundras were the most reliable trucks I've ever owned.

Matt

From: Will
01-Sep-23
If you dont need a larger truck, Tacoma's are awesome. They last for ever it feels like and generally have minimal issues. I'm over 140K/13yrs and it's been a great truck. Everyone I've talked to about them tends to have positive things to say, outside a bit of time in the mid teens where the frames were rusting to fast. That seems to be resolved.

Overall, for a mid/smaller sized truck, Tacomas are awesome.

From: WYOelker
01-Sep-23
I would put my 2500 ram with 6.7 up against about any truck. I have beat the crap out of it it is the mega cab so I can sleep in the back seat has more than enough tow capacity. 220,000 hard miles and other than upgrading the ball joints, and routine maintenance it has not had a any issues. Not the most comfortable seats, but it is crazy where I have driven it and how hard its life has been with 0 issues...

From: Brotsky
01-Sep-23
I have a 2019 Tundra with 100k on it. Plan on keeping it for another 100k. Bulletproof...knock on wood.

From: Lawdog
01-Sep-23
As said it really comes down to personal preference and price. For the last 25 years I've owned Rams. I was initially drawn to Dodge because of the price. I just thought Dodge gave me more for my money. The last 1500 Ram I owned for 15 years and 265,000 with no big issues. I also had a 3500 Dodge Duelly Diesel that I owned for 22 years and 165,000 miles. But nowadays, new and used trucks are all expensive! As Matt said "lots of bells and whistles" that you will pay for. I didn't want to pay for those nor did I need them. So, I went with a Ram Tradesman. Everything I needed with no extras, and I added my own bells and whistles. However, if you're going used and you find a low mileage truck you like and can afford, you may want to consider it regardless of brand. These days the trucks are all made extremely well to the point that it's hard to get a lemon.

From: 12yards
01-Sep-23
I've owned a 1978 F-100, 1987 F-150, 1989 Ranger, 2002 Chevy Silverado WT, 2011 Suberban, and now a GMC Canyon. All the Fords had major issues. The GM vehicles have been good. At work we've gone through a lot of 1 ton and 3/4 ton trucks in my 32 year career. Without a doubt the Fords have been more problematic than the Chevys/GMCs. I recently bought a 2019 F-150 3.5 l. EB with 44,000 miles on it and owned it for 5 days before getting a refund and buying the Canyon. Check engine light came on before I got it home from the dealer. Brought it back, they "fixed" it. Got 10 miles down the road and the Check engine light came back on. Brought it back for the refund for the Canyon. I'm sure my Fords were just bad luck, but I won't be buying another.

From: Quinn @work
01-Sep-23
Love these threads. You’ve come to the right place for advice venom. It’s the same thread every time. :) Most posters will tell you the best truck is the one they own.

For example, my Tundra is the best truck out there.

Good luck in your search.

From: BowSniper
01-Sep-23
DON'T get any V8 Chevy with that variable cylinder fuel economy gimmick. That crap will fail every 100k miles, and it costs $3500 to pull the heads every time it does!! It should be illegal to sell such broken engineering.

Just replaced my Silverado with a twin turbo V6 F150 Tremor edition. Love it !! Gets better mileage, too. I average 19.3 mpg with 400hp and 500 ft lbs torque. Plus the Tremor edition has a little extra suspension for a surprisingly plush ride!

For a less expensive mid-sized truck I had my eye on the Chevy Colorado Trail Boss. But in the end went full-sized F150 for at least one more cycle.

Oh, and I have had a deposit down for two years to hold my place in line for a new CYBERTRUCK ~!!!

01-Sep-23
The most affordable ones. But, I’ve got two fords in the driveway. One with 180,000 miles on it. One with 211,000 on it. The diesel was went through to bulletproof it from typical 6.0 problems and has been flawless. The f150 had a fuel pump, a window fluid reservoir, and transmission solenoids.

I’ve owned all the big three and Toyotas. But, the Ford’s I’ve owned have been better to me than any others. And, I’ve had some good ones in all makes. The Toyota bring the worse by far.

From: Will tell
01-Sep-23
I bought a Toyota Tacoma, little four cylinder 4/4. I could buy two of them for the price they wanted for the other trucks. I don’t haul or tow so it was perfect for me. It’s four years old and has under 6000 miles.

From: Nick Muche
01-Sep-23
GG talking about his new truck again. Joy

From: KY EyeBow
01-Sep-23
Toyota is hard to beat. Tacoma or Tundra depending on the size you need

From: RonP
01-Sep-23
venom, i think the used truck market is softening and prices at least stabilizing. you may be able to save a few dollars buying low mileage used.

if you are not in a hurry, and i were you, i'd buy new at the end of the year. you will get something below MSRP.

as for make and model, they all suck at one time or another. i would suggest picking one with the V8 and avoid the turbo V6's and 4 cylinders (GM has a turbo 4 option in their 1/2 ton).

i am kinda surprised the normally aspirated V6 is not more common in the F150. that is a good option with decent power and fuel mileage, and not overly complicated.

my experience with both personal vehicles and those of companies i worked for, ram and chevy have been better on average. this includes vans, and not just trucks.

my current personal truck is a '22 toyota tacoma and i would not recommend it. the quality of the fit and finish is the second worst vehicle i have ever owned. a chevy s10 blazer was the worst. thank goodness the tacoma has not had any mechanical or electrical issues and i have been able to avoid the dealer and repair shop.

my personal truck prior to the tacoma was a '16 Ram 2500 with the hemi v8. that was a good trouble-free truck other than a small coolant leak at a seam in the radiator at about 55K miles. I replaced the radiator, and the truck was solid for the 100K+ miles i owned it.

good luck.

From: BULELK1
02-Sep-23

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Whatever you decide, be sure and NOT load a way to big camper on it!

Good luck, Robb

From: Groundhunter
02-Sep-23
I like the 5.7 v8 by Toyota. Sold my 2007 in June 325 000 Mike's. Abs went out at 300,000, I did not care.

Just found a 2014, with the crew cab, and shorter box, 140,000 on it. Cherry truck, 17000.00 cash.

I am good for another 7 years.

From: Grey Ghost
02-Sep-23
Nick Muche with another childish insult. Joy.

From: DanaC
02-Sep-23
Check your local Craigslist to get an idea what's available near you, prices etc. Maybe let a few local dealers know what you're looking for, they take trade-ins all the time.

From: Ziek
02-Sep-23
I've been buying Toyotas since the early '80s. Been upgrading their pick-ups from a 1980 2wd to my current 2017 Tundra. I'm still using a 1988 V6 I bought new for snow plowing. Also a couple of 4-runners, a 1984 Supra, a couple of Tacomas, and a 2012 FJ that we still have. Have looked at a bigger PU for towing, but can't get by the problems with other brands. My last two Tundras have towed a 7500# travel trailer with stuff in the bed (pretty much maxed out the gross axle weights) on four 2+ month long, 7,600 to over 10,000 mile northern Canada & Alaska summer trips, including the Dalton & Dempster highways, with no problems. I did have to replace my 2007s 28 gallon fuel tank with direct replacement 46 gallon Transfer Flow, but Toyota fixed that with a 38 gallon tank in the newer V8 trucks. Haven't really looked at the new V6 turbo ones.

From: jjs
02-Sep-23
Timex, had the same Ford and turned to rust but the engine kept on ticken. It is one of my peeves with the Big 3 trucks is the rust problem that I see on fairly newer trucks for what one pay for them.

Worked for John Deere after dx out of the Navy in 72 and Deere has a big dip tank that electrostatic the primer into the tractor parts before going in to the paint room, that is the reason one doesn't see a JD tractor rusting out, no reason the auto companies could do the same, but long term ownership is not in their business plan

Been with Toyota since 89 when they start to use zinc oxide treatment on their body, the Tacoma has been my truck since, had very little problems with them except giving up a full seize truck room, they are tough trucks.

From: Tracker
02-Sep-23
Nissan, Ram, Ford, Titan, 2 GMC and now a 2023 Chevy Silverado. My 2005 Titan was my favorite. Not sure there is a best. All are good if you get lucky. My last GMC needed a trany at 62,000. And yes that was 2000 miles out of warranty:(

From: DonVathome
02-Sep-23
Toyota Tacoma's are awesome. 4x4 off road package then get GOOD tires.

From: Bigdog 21
02-Sep-23
Timex a third of the cost of new and twice as tuff what a deal.

From: RutnStrut
02-Sep-23
I've said it before in other recent truck threads. Most people that talk crap about the Ecoboost. Have probably never owned one. I was always a naturally aspirated V8 guy. But tried the EB on a friends suggestion. I now have 171k on that truck with zero engine problems. The friend that suggested the EB has 280k on his. It all boils down to personal preference and what you have had good experiences with.

From: c5ken
03-Sep-23
2009 F-150 FX4. 160k miles & still runs great..

03-Sep-23
I can get you a friends and family discount on a new Ram. I won’t buy used now until prices start coming down. That won’t happen anytime soon. Pay cash if you can, rates are about 6.5% right now. Lmk. You can go to any dealer you want. I think it is about 2% under dealer invoice, plus you get all the incentives still.

From: Thornton
03-Sep-23
Any of you guys with 4.0 V6 Tacomas haul heavy loads like a boat or camper in the mountains? I absolutely hate not having enough power.

From: RonP
03-Sep-23
thornton, you may or may not know this but the 4.0 v6 tacoma has not been an option since 2015. beginning in 2016 they started using the 3.5 v6.

i have a tacoma with the 3.5 and find it adequate for towing up to about 3000 pounds. the tow rating is about double that but i would not recommend it for long distances that involve hills and mountains. i am sure the 4.0 would perform similar as the 3.5 in terms of towing.

if you "absolutely hate not having enough power", the tacoma is not for you regardless of engine.

From: bigswivle
03-Sep-23
I would definitely buy new whatever you decide.

From: Thornton
03-Sep-23
thanks Ron. Always wanted the 4.0 as a commuter/hunting truck. Jeep and everyone seems to have done away with 4.0s.

From: Grey Ghost
03-Sep-23
"thanks Ron. Always wanted the 4.0 as a commuter/hunting truck. Jeep and everyone seems to have done away with 4.0s."

The Jeep 4.0L was an inline 6, it was discontinued in 2006. The Toyota 4.0L was a V6. Completely different engines and performance.

Matt

From: BC173
03-Sep-23
Just sold a 01Tundra with 252k miles for 5k. One of my clients wife, a nurse, had a garage kept 13 Tacoma with 64 thousand miles. She was looking to sell and upgrade to new. I picked it up for 17k. 4.0 liter, 4 door and darn near mint. I hope I did good as you never know about buying used.

From: 70lbDraw
03-Sep-23
“I can get you a friends and family discount on a new Ram.”

We’ll, I checked in on this thread one day too late. Yesterday I traded in my 08’ 2500 Ram for a 23’ 3500. It’s still looks and acts like a truck, but rides and drives much nicer than my old one! I went with the Tradesman. Less expensive than the the loaded models, but it has a towing package and electric side mirrors, that have a good view of everything around you. Practical without all the fancy features and gadgets. The only thing I was disappointed about is that it doesn’t have the puck system for a 5th wheel hitch. I assumed that was standard on all new trucks, especially a 3500!

From: Grey Ghost
03-Sep-23
BC173, keep an eye on the cooling system on that 4.0L. The water pumps are notorious weak points on that engine, with failures often happening around 50K miles. Just a heads up. It sounds like you got a great deal on your Tacoma. I hope you enjoy it.

Matt

From: BC173
03-Sep-23
^^^Thanks GG. Will do. So far so good.

From: Groundhunter
03-Sep-23
Dodge rams are every where.across the country, should get one cheap...

Hmmmmm. Might be a reason

04-Sep-23
70lb draw, anytime in the future, PM me. It might take me a bit to get back as I don't check the site every day. I agree through, rams are one of the best riding trucks. Love them! I get a few friends and family a year. I've used a couple already but have some left.

From: JG420
04-Sep-23
Just bought my second Ram after years of Ford disappointing me. Luv the truck, came with a factory lift, 20 inch rims and pro comp 35’S. Had 230 miles on it so was declared used. 55,000.

From: N8tureBoy
04-Sep-23
About 10 years ago I had an auto body guy tell me to check for rust in the rear wheel wells of Dodge trucks. Not sure if this was a common problem, or just his perception. If true, I would hope/assume the newer models don't have the same issue?

From: JG420
04-Sep-23
10 years and 150,000 on the one I just traded in.No rust at all.

From: Grey Ghost
04-Sep-23
I think the Dodge rust bucket reputation was well-deserved years ago, but not any more. They all use basically the same materials and corrosion prevention these days.

Matt

From: Coyote 65
04-Sep-23
Have a 2007 Tacoma with 230,000 on it. Only major problem was ring gear in the rear diff lost some teeth. Think this may have happened when I towed a B-17 out of the hangar. Oh, had to get the AC recharged this summer.

Terry

From: 70lbDraw
04-Sep-23
“70lb draw, anytime in the future, PM me. It might take me a bit to get back as I don't check the site every day.”

Much appreciated, and I may take you up on it! My wife has a 2018 bighorn. Great truck! She loves it. We’ve always been a “two Ram fam”, But now that I’ve finally let go of the 08, 2500 and I’m maxed out on complete towing and hauling capacity, she’s considering trading hers in for something else Dodge, but not necessarily Ram.

On a side note, I heard that the UAW is pushing for a 46% wage hike, 32 hour workweek, but 40 hour paychecks?!…Say what?!…are you kidding me? And here we have China joe that supports union extortion 110%!

My prediction is that, automobile prices will skyrocket, but ole Joe will offer Americans some amazing discounts and incentives on EV’s. The average American won’t be able to afford to buy a new gas/diesel vehicle, but EVs will be so affordable, even a high school student won’t be able to pass it up!

All I know is that I think I made the right choice at the right time!

05-Sep-23
Yeah, most likely use going on strike. Things are going to get and stay hairy for a while I’m thinking.

05-Sep-23
That’s why when people talk of vehicles coming down in price, I wander what planet they are living on. The UAW is the car industry’s wild card. Do nothing and they strike, prices stay high. Make a deal and they don’t strike, prices stay up.

You’ve got 72 and 84 month financing now. Auto makers know they can sell them do, why would they back off?

From: Dino
05-Sep-23
The 3L Duramax motor is definitely worth looking at, I have one in my 22Trail boss . It’s a bad ass rig.

From: tradi-doerr
06-Sep-23
After Fords and Chevy's I bought my first Dodge Ram 2500 reg cab in 1998. Bought new 2003 2500 Ram quad cab 5.7 Hemi for $27K, drove it for 17yrs without any major issues-240K miles when sold it and bought a new 2020 Ram 2500 6.4L Hemi long-bed Tradesman Md at end of Nov. 20' for $40K. That same truck now goes for $61K+, WTH! And those prices are only going up. Used ones are going for only about $10K-$15K less with 30K+miles (in Colorado). My second choice is Toyota's trucks, friend has had a couple that seemed bullet proof.

10-Sep-23
Anyone wants a discount, lmk!

From: DonVathome
11-Sep-23
I love taco's, I do think they are not as good as 20 years ago but I could be wrong

11-Sep-23
If I were to buy a used truck It would not be a Toyota. They are good trucks so the resale price are unreasonable. A new Toyota is another story. I am frugal so I tend to look at the trucks with low resale value. The truth is there is hard to find a truck made in the last ten years that is"bad".

From: Ogoki
13-Sep-23
I purchased a used 1999 Tacoma to use to run a few service calls in 2007. Within 6 months i got a letter to bring to a Toyota dealer to have the frame inspected and it checked fine . This truck came from the south and a military man had it and moved back home . I had heard of the frame rusting out issues and had already given this truck a good going over before purchasing the truck for $10,500, taxes included . In the spring of 2013 i noticed a hole in the frame . Truck was now 14 1/2 yrs old . The frame extended warranty was for 15 yrs . I took to the dealer and they put it in the air and agreed. They sent the info to Toyota . 2 days later I had a buy back offer of $14,887.50. They got it back . I took that money and got aggressive in the stock market . Sold the 3 stocks in 2020 and had $27, 505 after taxes . Purchased a new Tacoma for $33,000. I did not buy a top of the line truck but one that had all my wife wanted on it as it was going to be hers to drive . Double cab. Toyota did us right .

From: shade mt
13-Sep-23
As a contractor i had them all.....And i got good mileage out of them all.

I sold quite a few fords that were pushing 300,000 miles...both dodges were pushing 300,000. I have yet to have a chevy that got over 250,000...got one right now with 181,000...its starting to burn oil a little, smokes when you start it up but then goes away. 5.3

I have a F-150 with a 4.6 with 150,000 not a lick of trouble with it yet other than a ignition coil. I also have a f-150 with a 3.5 eco boost...135,000 so far all i had to do was replace the camshaft, crankshaft positioning sensor....18-24 mpg...all kinds of power. towing or going up a mt, or 0-60mph....It will flat walk away from every other gas truck i own, or did own including the 5.7 hemi's. time will tell how it holds up.

From: M.Pauls
23-Sep-24
I’m a pretty diehard Ford guy, drive Fords myself and have one for my wife. I have an F350 Dually that I currently love and my wife has an explorer that has been great. BUT having said that, I run a small construction business with company vehicles and we have tried them all. NOTHING beats the Toyota Tundra. Not a Toyota guy, but you just can’t beat them. By far lowest cost of ownership. Maybe a shade heavier on fuel, but they win in absolutely every other way for a 1/2 ton. Right now we have a ‘14 and a ‘15 (with the 5.7) and they haven’t given us a lick of trouble and I think we put about 200,000k on that 14 of our own now must be. It’s gotta be close to 300k at the moment. Awesome trucks. Our second best was the F150, but didn’t come close to the Tundra

From: CaptMike
23-Sep-24
My bad experiences with GM led me to either a Toyota or Ford. I found a Toyota I liked and since then, I’ve had a few of them. Now I will not consider another as I have no complaints.

23-Sep-24
Avoid Ford at all costs! They will not, have not ever stood behind their products and will soak you dry! Terrible company and Terrible after sales responsibilities. Had many of them, finally gave up on the brand. Terrible!!!!

From: Insheart
23-Sep-24
I have a 2019 GMC 6.2 engine, with 60,000 miles. Replaced transmission, one of the front drive shafts, all kinds of little issues - will not have another one.

Only good thing is I get 20 to 22 mpg.

Thnk goodness I purchased the extended warranty.

From: Junior
23-Sep-24
DINO That oil pump belt replacement can run 3000 I heard on the 3.0

From: jordanathome
23-Sep-24
RAM (owned 3) makes a great car out of a truck.....great features and comfort. What you lose in trade is payload which if you want to haul or town heavy stuff like a 5th wheel creates compromises or safety issues.

Ford makes a truck and has made a consistently top quality truck for many many many years. The superduty trucks are the best for towing or hauling in my opinion and the tradeoff is not so many creature comforts as the RAM........because they use up payload.....so you get more payload.

Chevy has always made a very attractive truck. My parent's had a 2006 2500 silverado diesel and it was a great truck.

Bottom line is drive a few and pick what you like for yourself.

From: Jebediah
23-Sep-24
I have owned two Tacomas, very happy with them. No complaints. They have been surprisingly good for plowing snow. I think both prior and current one were/are 6-cylinder. Not a car guy. Don’t take good care of my vehicles, unfortunate for sure, but these Tacomas keep on ticking. I like to drive mine through rings of fire, and park them on the beach for the tide to come in and flip them around, undamaged. So impressive that people tend to film it.

From: Buffalo1
23-Sep-24
If you don’t need the large size - a Toyota Tacoma with a camper top is a good choice. I average 20-24 MPG in my 4WD.

The Tundra series like to stop at a lot of fuel stops !

From: Buffalo1
23-Sep-24
If you don’t need the large size - a Toyota Tacoma with a camper top is a good choice. I average 20-24 MPG in my 4WD.

The Tundra series like to stop at a lot of fuel stops !

From: stealthycat
23-Sep-24
I'm going to buy end of 2025 ish ... I will only be buying a Toyota Tundra in like a 2015-2020 year range I am a Toyota guy

From: Insheart
23-Sep-24
So up above I posted a bit about my GMC. In for an oil change today - now the rear seal is leaking. ....... ugggghhhh.

From: Old School
23-Sep-24
Buy whatever you want - my experience is that the Tundra is head and shoulders better when it comes to reliability, longevity and cost of ownership. I don’t believe it’s even close.

From: Babysaph
23-Sep-24
Chevrolet= cracked head every valve rattles oil leaks every time

From: c5ken
23-Sep-24
2009 F-150 V8. just short of 210k miles... Zero problems. Guess they all make good & bad..

From: c5ken
23-Sep-24
2009 F-150 V8. just short of 210k miles... Zero problems. Guess they all make good & bad..

From: spike78
23-Sep-24
Tacoma lover here. Not that comfortable on a long drive but makes the long drive with no fear of needing a tow back.

From: RutnStrut
23-Sep-24
Usually when I see people bash the EcoBoost it's people that have never owned one. I have a 2015 F150 3.5 EB with 206k on it that I have never had a problem with. I was always that guy that wouldn't own a truck that didn't have a V8 in it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the EB engines.

From: bad karma
23-Sep-24
My "newest" vehicle is a 2001 Suburban I got with 86k on it, now about 92k. Trade years for low miles. It's taken two 2000 mile round trips since I got it in February without incident. Blue book on it was about $8k when I got it, but it was inherited. Runs perfectly...buy used cars with meticulous service records.

My Lexus with the 4.3l V8 has 203k on it, and would be gtg for a cross country trip with the new rear tires it will get in two weeks. I'll never buy a new or near new car again.

What's the noise my Suburban makes when I'm going down the road? The $90k jingling in my pocket.

From: Bowfreak
24-Sep-24
I hope to drive my truck for many more years and unfortunately they will no longer be making it. It is a 2017 Titan with 131k on it. It is a no bells and whistles vehicle but it is solid as a rock. Nissan did a horrible job at marketing their truck. It is as good if not better than anything on the market. If they still made them, I wouldn’t look at any other vehicle when time comes to replace. When that time comes, I have no idea what I will buy.

From: Bob Rowlands
24-Sep-24
2005 Tundra SR5 4.7 1/2 ton. 135K. I haven't had a problem with the truck. Mediocre rear drum brakes though.

From: Bob Rowlands
24-Sep-24
The only new vehicle I've bought was my '82 F150, 'Blue'. Blue was my work truck for 17 years. We didn't have a two car garage so Blue was always an outdoor dog. Blue literally never spent a day inside a garage and he really aged in two decades.

I retired Rusty. I gave the keys to Rusty to my son for his HS ride.

By that time Rusty had some holes in the well below the drivers feet to where you could see the road. I shit u not.

In fact one of my sons buddies goofed on him by climbing under the truck with a coat hanger and somehow managed to unlock the door. Rusty had a key, but that was only needed for the door lock. The ignition was so funked up it would work without the key. So this joker started him up and drove him to another spot across the street from the HS parking lot.

So my son gets out of school and calls his joker friend. "Corey!! My trucks been stolen! My dads gonna effing kill me!" lol Kids are funny.

24-Sep-24
I have been very happy with GMC sierras

Had a 2010 with the 5.3L that I sold with 225k miles it was a great truck

Currently driving a 2018 Denali with the 6.3L I have 230k and it has been great

I will be in the market again in 2025 but have a hard time with the current prices

From: nchunter
24-Sep-24
I have driven nothing but toyota trucks since 79. My favorite was my 82 trekker. I think toyota sent it off to winabago to add the interior. That truck would go anywhere. I now drive a 2018 v6 tacoma that has been great. I would not buy next years tacoma tho as I read they are dropping the v6 for a turbo 4 cylinder. A year ago I could of come close to selling it for what I bought it new for. I wish the old hi lux and land cruiser models with no carpet and interior that you could hose out would come back

From: Adak Caribou
24-Sep-24
I had a 2017 F-150 Ecoboost. There have been several small problems and recalls. The dealer has a three—to four-month wait list to get in for recall and warranty work. It finally gave out to the point of having to have it towed to the dealer, under 100,000 miles, to trade it in on a new 2021 F-150 Ecoboost. Now, I have many recalls and warranty issues, and it has 62,000 miles on it. The dealer is three to four months out to address the problems. I love everything about my F-150s—the power, the ride, the look, etc. However, the unreliability and long wait for getting repaired now have me looking into a Tundra in hopes that it will have fewer problems.

From: Bob Rowlands
24-Sep-24
Here's a F150 EcoBoost story.

My buddy Rex drives a newer model black F150 3.5l V6 Eco boost. Twin turbos, one for each cylinder bank.

So a couple years ago my wife and I did a weekender west of Denver with Rex and Pam in his new twin turbo F150 . We are driving up a steep stretch of Interstate 70, way up in the Rockies west of Denver.

"Bob, check this out." and floors it in the passing lane. Launch. Pam and my wife Kathy are sitting in the back. Pam yells "REX!!!!! Stop it!!." He lifts.

A few seconds later floors it again. "REX!!! STOP THAT!!!!" Yep, those twin turbos do deliver the power. Every now and then over the three great days of that weekend he would floor it for a few seconds just to get a rise out of the two grannies in the back. lol

From: DonVathome
25-Sep-24
Toyota tacoma is a great vehicle. Keep in mind for rough roads (hilly) shorter is better. Full size trucks cannot go where smaller trucks can.

25-Sep-24
Are the new Toyotas having engine issues ?

27-Sep-24
If anyone wants a discount on a new ram let me know. I work for stellantis and get a discount. If you live in the ne or mid Atlantic, it can be combined with 15% off 2024s!

From: Lastmohecken
02-Oct-24
I live in Northwest Arkansas, tell me what do you think the lowest price I could get on a 2024 Tradesman Crewcab, 2500 with the Cummings? I can't get them to come down below $60,000 here.

From: DConcrete
02-Oct-24
I don’t know of any engine issues with the Toyota tundras.

I have switched all my fleet over to ford from GMC and Chevy and dodge.

My dodges have been the worst trucks ever. Including one of my 22’s lighting on fire

From: DConcrete
02-Oct-24
I should back that up just a little bit. All Of my half tons are tundras. And they’ve been amazing trucks. It’s my diesel fleet I’m Switching over.

03-Oct-24

Altitude Sickness 's Link

03-Oct-24
Last - sent you a pm. All brands have issues and you will find people that love a brand and people that hate a brand. I look at vehicles as a depreciating asset designed to get your from point a to point b

From: Bowbender
03-Oct-24

Bowbender's Link
Well...Toyota has joined the ranks of Ford, Chevy and Dodge. The 4th Gen Tacoma has transmission issues, paint issues, fit n finish... Owned a '92 HiLux 4wd, '97 1st Gen Tacoma 4WD, & a 2011 2nd Gen 4WD. If I was looking at a Tacoma, it would be a late 2nd Gen 2013-2105 with low miles or mid 3rd Gen 2018-2020. It would NOT be a 4th Gen.

From: ILbowhntr
03-Oct-24
My first truck was a ‘72 F250 Highboy, 300 6 with a four speed in ‘77. Owned every breed/brand since then.

Not sure what you’re going to be doing with it, but I’d seriously look at a 3/4 ton. Most 1/2 ton trucks now days are not built to work with or haul much. My only truck regrets have been when I bought a 1/2 ton. I’ve had good luck with F250s for the past 22 years. Sold a ‘02 with 217k on it this summer and only issue, the 5.4 blew a plug. A $360 bill and it was back on the road. My ‘14 with a 6.7 has 162k and runs like a top. Gets around 20mpg on the interstate and 12 pulling a 40’ 5th wheel. No complaints about that.

From: Michael
03-Oct-24
If you can find a Toyota Tundra with a V8 and decent miles on it I would buy it.

When it comes to repairs or lack there of with a Tundra they are the best out there.

I have 2017 with 150,000 miles on it and have not put one red cent into it for repairs. It’s been only had maintenance work done.

Don’t expect great fuel economy. Living in rural MN and driving 60 to 65 I get a solid average of 16 mpg.

From: Buckdeer
03-Oct-24
The aluminum body Fords suck,750.00 for a new quarter panel that a stick ripped open like a can opener.Don't forget about the recall to get a longer dipstick.We lost a engine in a f150 at 24000 miles. That was over 10K to fix

06-Oct-24
Anyone looking for a 2024 diesel ram? With my discount and my dealer wanting to get rid of one, I can get some a heck of a deal on one. In PA, but well worth it for you to come and get it.

From: TonyBear
07-Oct-24
Well my 2023 Tacoma just turned over 40K miles. I went on trip up North for some grouse hunting and smallmouth fishing. 23.9-25.1 mpg.

I think that's pretty good in the 35-40 mph winds we had that day.

From: Candor
07-Oct-24
I have heard a few negative things about Toyota's new engine. About time too. GM caved to the emission pressures and boogered up the 5.3 liter that was solid. New 8 and 10 speed transmissions are smooth but more problematic. I think the former Tundra engine was the most reliable engine between 2005 and 2023. I have three GM 5.3s . The 2000 is the best. The '09 is the worst and after '16 they are decent but still not as good as the 2000. I would not buy something for long term ownership with an engine that has been out less than 5 years.

From: Dale06
07-Oct-24
I’ve had five silverados the past 20 years. Had a module go out in a transmission that cost me $400. Shortly after there was a recall notice on that module and my $400 was refunded. Other than that, zero issues. I’ve had 5.3 liter motors and the last two are 6.2 liter motors. I prefer the 6.2.

From: DanaC
09-Oct-24
Interesting video on engines

From: Tjm1534
12-Oct-24
Jeep has went under and Ford is following very closely.of course I think they just want a bailout.

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