Biden's Gun Control Law
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Zbone 13-Sep-23
Zbone 13-Sep-23
Bigdog 21 13-Sep-23
drycreek 13-Sep-23
MA-PAdeerslayer 13-Sep-23
LBshooter 13-Sep-23
Woods Walker 13-Sep-23
Zbone 13-Sep-23
LBshooter 13-Sep-23
70lbDraw 13-Sep-23
DanaC 13-Sep-23
boo711 13-Sep-23
70lbDraw 13-Sep-23
HDE 13-Sep-23
Zbone 13-Sep-23
Glunt@work 13-Sep-23
70lbDraw 14-Sep-23
Nomad @ work 14-Sep-23
HDE 14-Sep-23
Zbone 14-Sep-23
Bigdog 21 14-Sep-23
Zbone 14-Sep-23
LBshooter 14-Sep-23
LBshooter 14-Sep-23
Zbone 14-Sep-23
Thornton 14-Sep-23
drycreek 14-Sep-23
DanaC 14-Sep-23
Buskill 14-Sep-23
DanaC 14-Sep-23
RK 14-Sep-23
Matt 14-Sep-23
Glunt@work 14-Sep-23
drycreek 14-Sep-23
greenmountain 15-Sep-23
TonyBear 15-Sep-23
Bigdog 21 15-Sep-23
greenmountain 15-Sep-23
70lbDraw 15-Sep-23
Missouribreaks 15-Sep-23
BC173 15-Sep-23
shade mt 16-Sep-23
Zbone 16-Sep-23
DanaC 16-Sep-23
TGbow 16-Sep-23
Glunt@work 16-Sep-23
DanaC 16-Sep-23
shade mt 17-Sep-23
greenmountain 18-Sep-23
peterk1234 18-Sep-23
Catscratch 18-Sep-23
70lbDraw 18-Sep-23
Bowbender 22-Sep-23
Zbone 22-Sep-23
Bowbender 22-Sep-23
LBshooter 22-Sep-23
Woods Walker 22-Sep-23
btnbuck 22-Sep-23
HDE 23-Sep-23
DanaC 23-Sep-23
70lbDraw 23-Sep-23
Woods Walker 23-Sep-23
From: Zbone
13-Sep-23
This is unconstitutional and how can this happen:

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Biden's Gun Control Law Will Radically Change U.S. Gun Ownership

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/biden-s-gun-control-law-will-radically-change-u-s-gun-ownership-opinion/ar-AA1gEwpU?ocid=BingHp01&pc=NR04&cvid=313f3a68d8834196a44c6604419fe1ba&ei=21

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From: Zbone
13-Sep-23

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From: Bigdog 21
13-Sep-23
Old news but what you going to do about it.

From: drycreek
13-Sep-23
For everyone except his beloved crack smoking, whoring, money making son ? Wouldathunkit ? The Bowsite libs will be here shortly to defend our beloved prez, or will they ?

13-Sep-23
Oh they’ll be here Don. In all their stupid and glory haha

From: LBshooter
13-Sep-23
Well he has to get the republican controlled house to pass it, not likely. Just like the NM piece of work trying to suspend the 2nd amendment becuase of gun crimes lol. The surpremes have ruled and the 2nd amendment is here to stay.

From: Woods Walker
13-Sep-23
Molon labe SOBs......I'd rather die on my feet, than have to live on my knees.

13-Sep-23
She is smart. She’s attracting attention from the democrat party. And the DC Cabal.

They are all circling sharks right now, knowing China Joe isn’t running. And they don’t want Harris. She wants to be pulled up to the Fascist s major leagues.

From: Zbone
13-Sep-23
The part I don't get they're saying "LAW", so if it hasn't passed congress how can it be law... So is it law? Can the president declare a "law"...

From: LBshooter
13-Sep-23
No!!!

From: 70lbDraw
13-Sep-23
“The Bowsite libs will be here shortly to defend our beloved prez, or will they ?”

Nah, they’re too busy holding their breath for numerous trump convictions. Now, if it had been trump who tried to take our guns away, you can bet they’d be screaming bloody murder! Cuz afterall, Trump is the only criminal that matters. Regardless of his guilt, or lack there of.

From: DanaC
13-Sep-23

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From: boo711
13-Sep-23
Tried reading the link but it wants me to download an app. Guess I won’t be reading it

From: 70lbDraw
13-Sep-23
Boo, right under where it wants you to get the app, there’s a small spot that says, “expand article”. Just hit that and you can read it.

From: HDE
13-Sep-23
Biden's irrelevant. They're still trying hard to keep that ship afloat...

From: Zbone
13-Sep-23
LBshooter - You say no... Let's dissect this:

"The Biden administration considers you a gun dealer if you sell a friend a gun once and then discuss the sale of a second gun to them. Or if you sell one gun and keep any record of what you bought and sold it for. "

So a buddy sells another buddy a gun, and one of them kept a record of it, does that now mean that this was an unlawful and can be prosecuted? A father gives a child a gift, this is unlawful?

So basically private sales of guns are illegal NOW?

I'm asking, is this a crime right NOW, not what they propose to do?

boo711 - Clear your cache and cookies...

From: Glunt@work
13-Sep-23
Imagine a government that works to expand and protect citizen's rights instead of constantly chipping away at them.

From: 70lbDraw
14-Sep-23
“Imagine a government that works to expand and protect citizen's rights instead of constantly chipping away at them.”

The last time we attempted to have a government like that, the Democrats did all they could do to keep that president from being able to participate in the process. Oh wait… they’re STILL trying to keep him down. No matter who the next constitutionally minded person is that runs for president, you can bet they’ll do everything in their power to guarantee he doesn’t succeed.

From: Nomad @ work
14-Sep-23
Zbone......."So a buddy sells another buddy a gun, and one of them kept a record of it, does that now mean that this was an unlawful and can be prosecuted? A father gives a child a gift, this is unlawful?"

The way I read it is if you do that & then so much as even talk about selling another gun to that buddy then you become a "gun dealer" & subject to the law.

The father giving the gift would not be unlawful because he did not sell it to the child.

From: HDE
14-Sep-23
biden can consider anything he wants. He's wrong.

From: Zbone
14-Sep-23
HDE - " can consider anything he wants. He's wrong"

I totally, totally agree and get that, what I am asking is this ALREADY a done deal created into law that private gun sales of TWO guns is illegal... What if this was done 10 years ago, now can those two buddies be prosecuted...

Although not mention in article, what about these so called "ghost" guns, the 80% receivers requiring drilling? You guys ever watch Wednesday Night At The Range on TV where some of these top shooters with their so-called "AR platform" custom rifles likely customized by gunsmiths don't have serial numbers... Now are they in violation of the law even though they were built 5 years ago?

Was talking to a guy the other day when the subject of these 80% guns came up... I don't know how true this is and why I'm asking these questions,,, he was saying these 80% receiver guns are legal if the owner drilled the couple holes but illegal for him to sell it... Okay, what about the owner of an 80% manufactured receiver (there are gobbs of manufactures out there and even 3D printer ones) takes it to a gunsmith to have the holes drilled right?

And now after this Biden law his crackhead son is getting off on a gun violation... That should stir up the left wing whacko here...8^)))

From: Bigdog 21
14-Sep-23
Check IL law. If you don't register your ar and sum other guns in the band by Jan 2024 you will become a felon if caught with these guns. By the way alot of guns including ar,ak and many other are banned in IL. Now what is crazy when I bought the guns there was a waiting period and reg. To me by state. FOID card. Now they want me to reg again with state. This is leading to something not good.

From: Zbone
14-Sep-23
Yeah, firearm confiscation...

Wow Bigdog 21, I did not know that... I used to shoot IPSIC competition and back in the day, one of the major shoots (I think one of the nationals) used to be held in IL... Now, how do those competition shooters bring in their ARs to shoot matches?

From: LBshooter
14-Sep-23
Zbone, I can only answer what my state does, and that's a phone call to the state police to run a individuals gun card (FOID) number. Once you get an approval then they wait the required amount of time, 3days, thn the transfer is legit. Whatever trader joe wants to do is meaningless until the house and senate pass his proposed law.

From: LBshooter
14-Sep-23
Zbone, I can only answer what my state does, and that's a phone call to the state police to run a individuals gun card (FOID) number. Once you get an approval then they wait the required amount of time, 3days, thn the transfer is legit. Whatever trader joe wants to do is meaningless until the house and senate pass his proposed law.

From: Zbone
14-Sep-23
"until the house and senate pass his proposed law"

That is just it, is this Biden law proposed or is it now law? Nobody seems to know...

I agree soccern23ny, what part of "INFRINDGFED" do they not understand...

From: Thornton
14-Sep-23
His son was just indicted on Federal Firearms charges because he was on drugs in 2018 when he bought a Colt revolver.

From: drycreek
14-Sep-23
soccern, you aren’t that stupid, I hope. I don’t think crackheads were a problem when the Bill of Rights and the Constitution were being written. Pretty sure that Hunter invented that. ;-) As far as your statement goes, he’s accused of lying on the Form 4473, a form that was conjured up by gun control advocates on your side of the aisle. So….my position is, if we didn’t have to fill out that form, then crackheads could just buy guns with impunity. I’m all for it. Just punish these criminals instead of turning them loose to commit more crimes like you libs do. I’ll be happy to do my share in case one or more try to harm me or mine.

From: DanaC
14-Sep-23
It would be really *really* interesting to see how many pot smokers answer 'no' to the drug question on the 4473, especially in *states* where pot is now legal.

So, do we push for federal decriminalization? Drug test all prospective gun buyers? Accept that thousands of guns have been sold to liars? Sell guns to anyone at all?

From: Buskill
14-Sep-23
If someone lies on the form about smoking pot does that make the Biden boy anymore innocent ?? Of course not. These are pretty cut n dry rules. If you lie on the form and get caught you should be punished. It doesn’t matter if you are a crackhead Biden or pot smoking MAGA zealot.

From: DanaC
14-Sep-23
Marcus, here in Mass. you can get a medical card making it legal to buy weed. Just how long before they start running 4473's against that little list?

Hunter Biden is a flea on a much bigger dog.

From: RK
14-Sep-23
So by soccer moms logic the lower income people on the Bowsite are looting and robbing 7-11s. And the average Joe hunter dies no drugs and does not need to steal. Makes sense

From: Matt
14-Sep-23
Leave it to the Bowsite Squad to not understand what actually happened, but know they should be really angry about it. The Bipartisan Safer Communities Act was passed over a year ago. It changed the definition of firearms dealer. The previous definition included the wording "with the principal objective of livelihood and profit." The new definition has been simplified to "predominantly earn a profit". A recently proposed DOJ rule would amend BATF regulations to conform to the BSCA definition.

This is essentially a backdoor way to force universal background checks for firearm sales by significantly lowering the threshold for which sellers need to perform background checks.

Add in Biden's BS 0% tolerance for mistakes by firearms dealers and there is potential for a lot of people to unwittingly could become targets of BATF.

From: Glunt@work
14-Sep-23
Hunter's charges are a shiny object. Don't fall for the distraction.

From: drycreek
14-Sep-23
Matt, you may be underestimating the intelligence of the “Bowsite crowd”. I certainly knew exactly what Biden and his handlers were trying to do. Don’t worry though, it won’t affect Kalifornia, you guys are already effed.

15-Sep-23
I let my representatives know that if they support this law they are admitting that their gun control laws are not for public safety. I will not vote for anyone who supports this mess including the current President.

From: TonyBear
15-Sep-23
Criminals don't follow gun laws. Case in point recently in the Midwest. In 2003 a young black girl was killed by gangbanger warfare stray bullet. One of the individuals in the gang got a life prison sentence. Fast forward 18 years and the state governor (Walz) and a few of his legal geniuses decided to let him out. Partly because he worked for the lead Public Defender Moriarity during her re-election and of course turned his life around. About 2 weeks ago was spotted driving a car erratically. Was pulled over by an officer and failed the field test (officer could smell pot). Asked if the vehicle could be searched and perp refused. The officer searched anyway and surprise, surprise the vehicle had a pistol with extended magazine, pot, meth, fentanyl, Extasy; all the goodies a felon who is turning his life around should have in in car at 11 AM. During the arrest, perp struggled with the officer as well. This is the typical scenario in that area where the political engine of the Dems are against proper law and order. Biden and his cronies are really no different at the Federal level.

From: Bigdog 21
15-Sep-23
Let the gangs and criminals have there guns. Mean we still need more gun control.. I mean we can go to other countries fight wars find assassins. But we can't stop a gang in Chicago. Sad. We can have a mass shooter on radar for years but still have him shoot up a church are school. But get a group that voices agents the gov.and they all are getting locked up. No gun involved.

15-Sep-23
" I will not vote for anyone who supports this mess including the current President."

it took this to get you there? lol

15-Sep-23
Ricky: I have been writing the folks charged with representing me for years. They seem to always tow the party line. No it did not take this long to get here.

From: 70lbDraw
15-Sep-23
“I mean we can go to other countries fight wars find assassins. But we can't stop a gang in Chicago. Sad.”

No, no, no, don’t be mistaken. We DON’T WANT to stop the gangs. They’re part of the entitlement community that supports the Democratic agenda. As long as they’re getting a monthly check, they’re voting for democrats. It’s a system that works for the left, so we don’t want to upset them by holding them criminally responsible.

15-Sep-23
70lb, as usual you are right on.

From: BC173
15-Sep-23
70 lb. X2. Gotta buy them votes someway.

From: shade mt
16-Sep-23
X1000....70lb draw

From: Zbone
16-Sep-23
"here in Mass. you can get a medical card making it legal to buy weed"

You can here in Ohio too, but feds still consider it a controlled substance and if you check "yes" on the gun sale form, you are not getting the gun... If you mark "no" on the form and have a medical marijuana card and use, you've just commented a felony same as Hunter Biden was charged...

From: DanaC
16-Sep-23
Yup, and sooner or later that is gonna burn a whole lotta folks. Simple matter of comparing two lists...

(TWO felonies, actually, lying on the form and lying to a federally licensed dealer.)

From: TGbow
16-Sep-23
Before long a parking ticket will be a felony

From: Glunt@work
16-Sep-23
And armed robbery will be a misdemeanor.

From: DanaC
16-Sep-23
Doesn't matter, some traffic clerk could run your record and discover your weed card and gun purchase records.

From: shade mt
17-Sep-23
I often wish i'd wake up and it would be a 100 yrs ago.

I like our modern stuff....I just don't like the modern mentality that goes with it.

18-Sep-23
I have a serious question . How many here still write your representatives in Washington? I do but I still don't feel represented. Our state government is getting worse by the year. I need to tell them how we feel. Apathy got us to where we are now.

From: peterk1234
18-Sep-23
I often wish i'd wake up and it would be a 100 yrs ago. I like our modern stuff....I just don't like the modern mentality that goes with it.

This ^^^ times 1000.

From: Catscratch
18-Sep-23
greenmountain - I write my State reps somewhat often. I feel like if I want to complain about something I should earn it. ie - don't complain unless you tried to do something about it type of thing. To be honest I don't write Washington unless it's my states reps. Probably should!

From: 70lbDraw
18-Sep-23
Writing letters to politicians is no different than sending them money for their campaigns. It’s big waste of time and effort. The only way to make a difference is to vote, and nowadays, even the value of your vote is just as questionable.

From: Bowbender
22-Sep-23

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Thank you Biden voters. You own what’s coming.

From: Zbone
22-Sep-23
Bowbender - Watch, those Bowsite left wing whackos will blame it on Trump...

From: Bowbender
22-Sep-23
No, what they’ll do is roll over and piss themselves in submission.

From: LBshooter
22-Sep-23
The lobs understand all to well what infringe means, they just don't care!!!

From: Woods Walker
22-Sep-23
And they think they know what an "insurrection" is. They have no idea. But keep poking the bear and you'll find out!

From: btnbuck
22-Sep-23
Harris is more worthless than biddenn. She hasn’t accomplished a single thing yet except perfecting the cackle.

From: HDE
23-Sep-23
Ask yourself which party is trying to upend and rewrite everything, whether it be from sidestepping laws and rules to condoning mostly violent protests and let that be your answer as to who is really guilty of insurrection.

And people still think gov't should be in charge...

From: DanaC
23-Sep-23

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We should get her email address, flood her in-box with this picture, and demand to know what she's planning to do about it. >;-)

From: 70lbDraw
23-Sep-23
Remember when the cops used to do “stop and frisk” in big cities? They recovered a lot of illegal weapons in those days. Ironically enough, the liberals cried about how racist the practice was. Suddenly, poof, street gang shootings skyrocketed. Now, they’re out of control, but at least it isn’t racist to let them shoot the s**t out of the neighborhood and accidentally kill innocent children. That is obviously more acceptable than preventive maintenance.

From: Woods Walker
23-Sep-23
So much for "Black Lives Matter"!

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