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Line item spending measures, massive budget cuts. That’s just a small part of what we need.

The part nobody seems to understand, as far as the Feds go, we have a constitution. It is the literal rule book of what the federal government is allowed to do. If it isn’t in the constitution, such as HUD, PED, CDC, WIC, SNAP any foreign aid needs to be eliminated. ANYTHING, not outlined in the constitution that is enacted upon wether democrat or republican is wrong. It’s that simple.

I'm over the two party system two sides of the same coin. What we need is a third party!

Sounds like maybe you’re the one that needs to go Facebook. You can start an archery only group and censor it all by yourself.

When the borders of a foreign nation like Ukraine, are more important to use than our own borders, it’s a problem. Please show us how the MAGA crowd is putting Ukraine before America.

It's because many (R's) have morals whereas NO (D's) have any.

That is the exact reason we have an immigration problem. People like you saying, “walls are useless…unless of course, it’s the one around MY house.”

No different than preventing armed security guards in schools by claiming they put our children in harms way. Pure ignorance in an effort to bolster the current power wielding agenda.

Isn't much difference at all between the 2 parties. Politically speaking the only thing that will help this country is to move toward a very limited government and let there be a real free market and real liberty.

A lot of people are afraid of real freedom and the Republican Party is not the savior politically speaking.

You will never tax or regulate your way to prosperity...ain't gonna happen.

So if removing the Speaker was dumb, clearly a ton of Democrats did a dumb thing...

Pete

Yet all they do is complain about Pelosi getting booted from her office. Do they not realize she is no longer the “former speaker”?… typical.

Now nothing will get done and the government will shut down if they get a conservative thinker as speaker. It will be just like when Trump was president be my guess.

You guys better get your 401s. Lined out with cash with interest or you’re guaranteed to lose it all in about 6 months or less. This is going to take the market belly up. Someone write it down and start another thread about the market crash of 24.

Shane

If this new House rule had been in effect in the past, the 32 Dems who resisted Crazy Nancy's appointment as SOTH could have joined with Repubs to dump her too.

"Be careful what you wish for" is guidance Dems never seem to remember.

Line item spending measures, massive budget cuts. That’s just a small part of what we need.

The part nobody seems to understand, as far as the Feds go, we have a constitution. It is the literal rule book of what the federal government is allowed to do. If it isn’t in the constitution, such as HUD, PED, CDC, WIC, SNAP any foreign aid needs to be eliminated. ANYTHING, not outlined in the constitution that is enacted upon wether democrat or republican is wrong. It’s that simple.

Very interesting take on it soccer.

Obama stopped a Ukraine invasion with threats of economic sanctions, and Trump stopped it with military threats. The blueprint had been made for biden to stop it with 2 different methods but when Russia put troops on the border he did nothing.

Due to the blatant allowance of the invasion I kind of just thought biden was an idiot for not stopping it... but you're postulating it was on purpose so that we could weaken Russia without actually going to war with them or imposing sanctions. Very clever! I may not have given biden enough credit.

There were no lewd sex acts committed in the theater.

There were two legitimate negotiations on the table between Putin and Zelenskyy and they were torpedoed by the former British prime minister, at the behest of the UN. The UN should have done something to stop the invasion. It is not the US taxpayers responsibility to defend other countries.

Biden allowing the pipeline to be finalized and between Russia and Germany allowed Putin to start cashing in. The US was still buying Russian oil until the admin was called out on it. Biden is literally funding both sides of the war.

Ultimately both presidents previous to biden had to deal with Russian aggression towards the Ukraine and both prevented it (admittedly Crimea was successfully annexed by Russia during Obama's term). No clue what was said in closed doors between Trump and Putin, but Putin didn't invade under his watch. Instead he waited until biden was in office to place troops on the border and ultimately invade. Maybe that's just coincidence? I'm still intrigued in your suggestion that we're funding this war to weaken Russia and strengthen Ukraine. As said before, I had not thought of it that way but it would make a lot of sense that biden didn't threaten sanctions or military action if that was his plan all a long.

At least they'd have to climb it. Right now they just walk through.

House Republicans are aiming their fire at Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) after the congressman staged a successful effort to oust Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) as Speaker, sharply criticizing the Florida Republican for teaming up with Democrats to boot the GOP leader and hurling personal insults his way.

Taking matters a step further, at least two GOP lawmakers have said Gaetz should be booted from the House Republican Conference, an unlikely outcome that, nonetheless, underscores the raw frustration — and anger — with Gaetz among members of his party.

The amped-up rhetoric comes as the House GOP conference is being forced back into square one — electing a new Speaker — as the government shutdown clock ticks down to the fast-approaching Nov. 17 funding deadline.

The converging dynamics have House Republicans starting to lash out — with Gaetz taking a large chunk of the heat.

“Matt Gaetz just got schooled by AOC and others; he was totally manipulated into doing this,” Rep. Garret Graves (R-La.), a close McCarthy ally, told reporters Wednesday. “There were eight so-called Republicans that got together with 208 Democrats to oust the Republican Speaker.”

“I can’t believe he’s that stupid to be used, to be manipulated by AOC and others to create this outcome,” he added.

Rep. Anthony D’Esposito (R-N.Y.) said Gaetz’s move to eject McCarthy from the Speakership amounted to “one of the greatest acts of heresy.”

“He’s literally taken one of our oldest institutions and put it into a downward spiral, all over selfish needs, all over Twitter feeds and raising money,” D’Esposito said during an interview on CNN.

McCarthy, during remarks following Tuesday’s vote, said Gaetz’s effort was “personal” and “all about getting attention” from the press.

In a historic vote Tuesday, the House voted to oust McCarthy from the Speakership, putting an end to his nearly nine-month tenure on the job that had been defined by his efforts to manage the party’s right-flank in the face of growing threats to his gavel.

Eight Republicans, led by Gaetz, voted with all Democrats in the chamber to boot McCarthy, bringing the final tally to 216-210. It was the first time since 1910 that the House voted on a “motion to vacate the chair” and the first time such a motion has succeeded.

McCarthy then announced he would not run for Speaker again, setting off a scramble in the GOP conference over who will succeed the California Republican in the top spot. In the meantime, Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) was named Speaker pro tempore and will preside over the House, but the chamber is unable to conduct legislative business until a new Speaker is chosen.

Immediately after the vote Tuesday, Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) told reporters that Gaetz should be removed from the House GOP conference, adding “he’s not a Republican.”

Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) — who said Tuesday that he would have hit Gaetz “square between the eyes” with the Speaker’s gavel — echoed Bacon’s sentiment Wednesday, saying he believes the Florida Republican should be kicked out of the conference.

Punchbowl News reported Wednesday night that Lawler said he is considering offering a motion to expel Gaetz from the group.

To be sure, booting Gaetz from the House GOP conference would be a heavy lift, requiring agreement from two-thirds of members. Asked about expelling Gaetz from the conference, Rep. Kelly Armstrong (R-N.D.) questioned if his Florida colleague broke any rules.

“We don’t kick people out ‘cause we don’t like ‘em,” Armstrong said. “God, we’d be doing that every morning in conference.”

Graves also brushed aside questions about potentially ousting Gaetz from the conference, saying it would have to be a decision for the group to make.

Gaetz, for his part, is disregarding the criticism being directed toward him. Asked about Lawler’s “square between the eyes” comment and if he expects to be expelled by the conference, Gaetz returned fire.

“I think that that was a very frustrated person who’s having to come to grips with the stages of grief,” Gaetz told Bloomberg TV of Lawler.

“I’m not much for political violence; I don’t want to hit anybody,” he later added. “If Mike Lawler comes at me with a gavel, I’m not entirely sure that would concern me, but that’s not the direction I think we ought to go. I think we ought to maybe craft a budget before an attack strategy.”

Gaetz has also drawn substantial criticism from Republicans for fundraising off of his effort to oust McCarthy. Graves presented a screenshot of a fundraising blast that he says Gaetz — whom he called a clown — sent out during debate on his motion to vacate.

He accused the Florida Republican of capitalizing on a “manufactured crisis.”

“If we’re gonna continue to have clowns like Matt Gaetz as part of the Republican conference, as part of this Congress, then you’re gonna have to have rules in place that prevent him from doing his charade every single week, every single month, where he goes out and he does his thing where he creates some manufactured crisis … does his manufactured crisis using official government resources, official government actions, manufactures a crisis and then goes and sends out fundraising emails off of the crisis manufacturer,” Graves said.

“I think this should be illegal. I think people should be in jail for this crap.”

“I mean, we’re getting email fundraisers from him as he’s doing it. Join in quickly,” McCarthy said Tuesday, referring to Gaetz’s motion to vacate-related fundraising efforts. “That’s not governing; that’s not becoming of a member of Congress.”

And Gaetz is facing claims of hypocrisy.

The Florida lawmaker for weeks had been heightening his threat to force a vote on confiscating McCarthy’s gavel, warning the then-Speaker that he would face a motion to vacate if he relied on Democrats to pass a continuing resolution — which the California Republican did last weekend to avert a shutdown. Gaetz, instead, wanted the chamber to pass all 12 appropriations bills.

D’Esposito said Gaetz criticized McCarthy for working with Democrats, but “yesterday he worked with Democrats, some of the most progressive and far-leaning left in the conference, in order to take Kevin McCarthy out. He is by every stretch of the definition a complete hypocrite.”

McCarthy’s ouster came three days after he put the continuing resolution on the floor.

The successful motion to vacate has put the House at a standstill, with legislative business — including the appropriations process — unable to proceed until a new Speaker is chosen, a reality that is causing concern with lawmakers as they race the clock to fund the government ahead of next month’s shutdown deadline.

“There’re 12 appropriations bills, those bills are all moving. Now, the ones that aren’t moving, it’s for one reason: It’s because Matt Gaetz and some of the cronies have single-handedly prevented or obstructed those from moving forward,” Graves said Wednesday.

The Louisiana Republican re-upped a familiar metaphor he has used to describe the GOP rabble-rousers.

“Once again, the arsonists who lit their house on fire, who whined about their House being on fire, who put out the fire, wants credit for it, and sets up a GoFundMe site to get paid for it,” he said. “Complete hypocrisy.”

Not really. Every democrat vote to oust him only 7 republicans.

PS it was 8 Republicans, not 7, are all your 'facts' this accurate?

Speaking of facts. No pic? I never had a doubt. Glad you did not stay in all weekend pecking out your important information

"I don’t get me wrong, after what democratic party fringes are doing to hunting, I will never vote for a Democrat."

huh?

you do realize the rfk jr is a liberal democrat through and through...right?

So are you going to back your liberal pals on the upcoming cat hunting ban in Colorado too? Just curious, party lines and all...

Democrats and some republicans accused Trump of Russian collusion. Elections are questioned. Democrats and some republicans pressed the Trump treason.

Boom, the most unsuccessful presidential candidate in USA history beats the most popular president of all time?

Why should we wander why our newly elected president stands by and lets Putin do this?

Yeah but he did beat your guy…bigly. Brandon won.

“beats the most popular president of all time?”

LMAO do you live in a cave with your head in the sand inside the cave? By what measure? I’ve not seen a real poll that Trump was popular (excluding his cult members) ever with voters. Most popular LMAO

Soooo, “cult” members are NOT considered as “voters”?!

Which polls do you consider “real” or legitimate?

Yet here you are, contributing to the BS! It’s like a bad train wreck ain’t it?!… you just can’t look away! LMAO!

Most popular president of all time…LMAO. Absolutely hilarious. The statement itself is the manifestation of the Trump alternative reality and cult. Just make stuff up and who cares if it’s true.

If that were true he would have won the popular vote is 2016 and 2020. He didn’t.

How 'bout some details on the rifle, caliber, and scope?

4 recent studies show Bidenomics a total fail and the root cause of our massive inflation. …you Dems stupidly patting yourselves on the back own that.

Not that we needed Economists to tell us $5 trillion in Dem Giveaways- was going to blow up inflation and weaken the whole middle and lower class.

Dem voters din!t know better, they love their not so free lunch and are fooled by Dem taxing the Big Bad Corporations- which is an expense passed in to consumers.

If the US voter was smarter, the Dems wouldn’t be able to fool them so easily.

Look up the studies including our own SL Fed in 2022 and references below. States that followed Dem policy did worse than conservative states and ignited inflation. —- Article: In late 2022, the Federal Reserve of St. Louis released a study noting that, on average, employment increased in states that refused to extend emergency jobless benefits.

Enhanced unemployment checks “permitted many recipients to collect unemployment benefits close to or above their pre-pandemic wage,” the St. Louis Fed concluded. “Therefore, many recipients had little or no monetary incentive to work. Termination of a state’s EUB programs cut or eliminated such generous benefits for many, which effectively restored the incentive for many to work.” A paper by three economists released last month reaches similar conclusions. “Using Current Population Survey data, we present difference-in-difference and event study estimates that the flow of unemployed workers into employment increased by around two-thirds following early termination,” note authors Michael R. Strain, R. Glenn Hubbard and Harry Holzer of Georgetown, Columbia and the American Enterprise Institute, respectively.

There are R people and congresspeople who like a guy who thinks a self-comparison to David Duke, and a dude who protected serial molesters in his previous profession as the two guiding lights of the party. Good times.

There has got to be a solid R who could take over the speakership.

Biden whose family benefitted by over $20 million that we know of is protected by the corrupt DOJ and FBI….all while the brainwashed useful idiot liberal Dems ignore the massive Biden fam corruption and try to steer the focus on Trump.

Sheesh, he would fade away if these idiots didnt keep him in the news.

Now there’s evidence that an administration advisor cleaned up china joes stolen documents before they were discovered. But that’s a big nothing burger because… well…Trump is a criminal! Lol! Suckers!

Booting Santos would require a two-thirds vote of the entire House, a benchmark LaLota seemed confident of meeting. "I predict this resolution is going to catch fire. Many people feel how we do," he said. ——— Unlike the entire Dem machine covering for old Joe. Birds of a feather.

Yep 70# you nailed it….folks in China Joes admin have been caught for the coverup….but when the entire federal system is 3rd world liberal Dem corrupted- nothing will come of it.

Im embarrassed as an American.

Link is to a clip of his speech today on X

1) he almost falls flat on his face again 2) he claims that inflation is coming down and Bidenomics is working which is a load of hooey. Inflation the worst its been since the 70’s, the gov bureau of labor has had to revise down every single sunny jobs report since he took office. Lying about stuff is what Biden does to keep his sheeple that don’t know any better in line.

3) he says, - actually its more of a bumbling ramble-“ the only existential threat to humanity is climate change” ( must stay with Dem talking points) Did you see the debacle today on the “cheap renewable wind energy” the Dems promised? Offshore windmills WAY over budget and they want to raise NY energy bills 6.7%. Regulators say no.

A mess- yeah, due to Dem pie in the sky policy…..

Then, the die hard Trumpers need to examine his current blabbering and self aggrandizing- its terrible.

He is insulting key Israeli leaders ( a douche move to pat yourself on the back and insult people in the midst if a huge crisis) ,His big mouth and ego always negates the positive- everything has to be about him.

Was he right about some stuff- yep.

Its hard for me as I want more from Trump. He s a patriot no doubt and had some good policy but I’m moving on from this egotist. Check his latest comments- embarrassing.

Amazing how the more we try to fix climate change, the worse it gets, and the more money we need to spend to tackle it. Where does that money go anyway? I suppose it’s how trump got rich!

anybody ever stop to think that maybe just maybe this country is heading in the wrong direction?

The worst type of ignorance is to blindly keep going the wrong direction despite being told the way. or to blindly keep believing a lie, despite being told the truth....

look around at the whole big picture...from the gov't mess, to trans, to gay, to inflation, world problems and economy.....right direction?....only a fool would think so.

Article at link where a Missouri housewife compares her grocery shopping bill of 2020 to today;

One consumer has the receipts. Eshia De Serriere, an ordinary shopper from Bolivar, Missouri, recently posted her Walmart grocery bills to social media, comparing prices for the same items purchased in late 2020 versus today. Observe: A pound of turkey breast went from $3.14 to $6.72, a 114% increase; A 4-pound bag of sugar went from $1.58 to $3.12, a 97% increase; A 64-ounce bottle of apple juice went from $1.18 to $1.98, a 68% increase; A standard bottle of honey went from $6.88 to $10.97, a 59% increase; A pound of ground beef went from $3.46 to $5.47, a 58% increase; A jar of applesauce went from $1.98 to $3.12, a 58% increase; A four-pack of Totino’s frozen mini pepperoni pizzas went from $4.88 to $7.64, a 57% increase; A box of Thai Kitchen stir-fry noodles went from $2.73 to $4.18, a 53% increase; A can of chunk chicken went from $3.98 to $5.98, a 50% increase; A jar of Hellmann’s mayonnaise went from $3.77 to $5.48, a 45% increase; A pack of bacon went from $11.98 to $16.48, a 38% increase; A loaf of Sara Lee bread went from $2.68 to $3.46, a 29% increase; and A pound of butter went from $2.98 to $3.68, a 23% increase. —-

But the Democrats say Bidenomics is working and mass media parrots these lies.

Well, of course, he said that, he only listens to the Democrat talking points on liberal media.

Much of Bidens supposed infrastructure spending is diverted to Social Justice spending- all while the country crumbles.

Dems are brainwashed- other media sources are bad. Its crazy how easy it is to fool some US adults.

Thankfully, outfits like MSNBC that initially claimed that the Hamas atrocities were fake- have lost 30% of their viewers.

Hopefully more folks start to get it.

Usually they’re trying to convince us that a crappy economy is not the fault of the current administration, as much as it’s a delayed reaction from the previous administration. I seem to recall a couple of bowlibs insisting this was backlash from trumps failed and reckless policies.

Matt

If I had time to research the oodles of political posts I’d find a couple of examples. Believe me, it’s in there!

Matt

The Dem excuse makers claim Inflation is a result of Covid, which is inaccurate. Inflation is a function of the policy. Injecting almost $6 trillion directly into the economy during Covid is a policy decision. Artificially stimulating demand by handing out free money…while at the same time constricting supply ( with all of the Dem state shutdowns) caused the massive and persistent inflation we have now. Its Democrat policy clear and simple that caused the bulk of this.

There are 4 studies I know of backing this, one by our own St Louis fed in 2022….so its only the uninformed partisans clinging to the Dem politician lies that think things are rosy as ever.

The link to the Heritage Foundation article is informative for those that still think Bidenomics is working. In reality, its just digging a deeper hole all while ignoring massive illegal immigration and crippling crime…..Two more issues that are crippling our country due to Democrat policies.

A couple quotes from the article below;

And right now, only 46 percent of Americans say they could cover an unexpected $400 bill without taking on debt.

That’s not to mention that a majority are living paycheck to paycheck.

Credit card debt tops $1 trillion for the first time in U.S. history.

And, in the second quarter of 2023, 36 percent more people drained their retirement accounts to make ends meets, compared to the same period last year, according to Bank of America's analysis of its clients' employee benefits programs.

When Biden took office, Americans had $2.3 trillion in personal savings. That number shot up to $5.7 trillion following Biden's so-called “American Rescue Plan.”

Today, savings sit around a much diminished $862 billion. The average middle-class household has lost over $33,000 in real wealth in just the past year, according to one analysis.

Inflation spiked in March of 2021 as “Bidenomics” poured $1.9 trillion ( buying votes, thats what the Dems do) in completely unnecessary “pandemic relief” spending—for a COVID crisis that had effectively ended—on an American economy already in recovery. As a result, inflation exploded, and the country is now picking through the charred ruins.

That’s not to mention that a majority are living paycheck to paycheck.

Credit card debt tops $1 trillion for the first time in U.S. history."

JMO..... personal responsibility and accountability seems to be a lost and forgotten concept. Always somebody else to blame.

From the link on cause of inflation;

The sum of new spending authorizations between 2020 and 2022 was a staggering $7.5 trillion—over $57,400 per household.

According to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, roughly $700 billion (less than 10% of the total) was directed toward public health in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic. Instead, the spending spree focused on welfare expansions, cash handouts and opportunistic subsidies for a variety of special interests.

Badly flawed, Keynesian “stimulus” spending escalated even after the economy had stabilized in the summer of 2020.

Legislative packages passed in December 2020 and March 2021 combined to dump trillions of dollars into the economy. Such reckless, unrestrained spending was the definition of inflationary.

I'm not sure how you came up with the $6 trillion figure, but I distinctly remember Trump's signature was on many of the various Covid relief acts and legislature. The CARES act alone was $2.3 trillion. There were several others that either directly or indirectly artificially stimulated demand when there was no supply. How can you say it was mostly Democrat policy that injected the economy with "free money"?

Look, I'm not defending Biden in any way. In many ways I think he's been one of the most inept presidents of my lifetime. But, when people lay the blame for inflation solely on Biden, they are being disingenuous at best.

Matt

There are rational, clear thinking, R's who could do this job well. I think. Sign up one of those folks.

It's also true that personal responsibility is the reason for the high credit balances. We are combating human nature here, and tendency for most people think, "Oh nice, free money to spend" with the Dem policy to just give everyone freebies in exchange for votes. It sure seems the old saying 'save for a rainy day' is now, thats what I have credit cards for.

Congress can be the check and balance we need here. Much of the Dem spending was before we had a Rep Congress. Some of the spending was while we had a Rep congress just showing that Tax and spend is not exclusive to Democrats....Reps do it too.

If there ever was a time where we need to bring the gov back to the people with one and done term limits- it's now. Personally, I don 't think much will change unless we have a catastrophic event forcing change- again, due to the human nature thing.

The current Dem braintrust [Ha!] thinks we can appease and negotiate with these terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah- admirable but it's been proven time and again to be incredibly naive...and its currently put the world in a precarious position.

Is there anyone that doesn't think Hamas would unleash a nuclear bomb if they had one?

“But, when people lay the blame for inflation solely on Biden, they are being disingenuous at best.”

Whatever you do, don’t say trump had anything to do with it!!!!

So if the next administration sees the rebound, and things get good again, will we credit China Joe for it?

At the end of the day, it boils dow to the ebb and flow of life itself. The bad times don’t last any longer than the good times. It seems that way since the bad times, leave a longer impression.

Trump didn’t create COVID, but I bet we’d be in a totally different place had it not happened on his watch.

When the US gov is as rife with corruption as it is now, we have a problem. The hardcore Liberal Dems accept a corrupted system because its their guy. Thats sick in the head.

We need tighter rules and automatic jail time on all of these dark money contributions. Its much like the insider trading that is rampant among our politicians- its a license to steal. How is it that the avg Joe can contribute $41,000 ( which is too much already) and zuckerberg can push his agenda with $300 million dollars to affect and election?

Menendez is only a glimpse at how bad the corruption is. When the dust settles and all of the evidence of the Biden fam being bought and paid for comes out- lets hope voters have had enough.

These politicians have become too self serving- doing whats best for them. We need a solution. Term limits of one and done is a start. A legit media would help…I’m waiting for a media outlet that pledges to be impartial and holds their reporters feet to the fire on that…booting them if they don’t.

It sure seems to me like Ukraine has dirt on Biden and they are holding it over him. Of course they do. Payments from Burisma, by his own words firing the prosecutor looking into his corruption and now the potential revelation he was part of the manipulation of oil and gas markets.

How many thousands have died because Biden was covering up his dirty deeds?

Biden gave the equivalent of many Billions to China in dropped sanctions and has shown he will go to great lengths to cover things up. Yet there are those brainwashed and still running interference for him

Bruce, I’m betting that you aren’t young enough to believe that will ever happen?!

How do you feel about the Saudis snubbing Blinken? Russia, the Saudis, China and India all meeting to collaborate……hmm…and our guy can’t make it up the stairs or make it through the day without napping.

The world is in turmoil and our guy is Biden….heaven help us. Does that give anyone a warm and fuzzy that everything is under control feeling? All while another 10,000 potential terrorists cross the border today….

The DNC fooled a large part of the US voters…..the big question is whats it going to take for the ‘always vote democrat’ folks to realize they have been hoodwinked?

I see the elections in Chicago that went from bad to worse….and I don’t have much hope these folks are smart enough to figure it out.

The guy is barely coherent…..bumbling almost non functional- its terrible. …thanks Dem voters….you own this….but by all means call me out for exposing you to the truth.

You literally can’t make up policy that is worse than the current Dems.

Video is Biden stating Climate Change is our most important threat….and Link is to the interview with WH’s John Kirby;

JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The only existential threat humanity faces, even more frightening than a nuclear war, is global warming going above 1.5 degrees in the next 20 -- 10 years.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MACCALLUM: Given all the nuclear players in these two areas where we are now engaged, John, does the president stand by that comment?

KIRBY: Absolutely, he does. Climate change is an existential threat.

It could -- it actually threatens and is capable of wiping out all human life on Earth over time. I mean, that's -- I don't know how more existential you can get than that. ——- Kirby goes on to say they have intel confirming Iran is behind the attack in Israel….

That's stupid. So if you had an open unfinished wall of a vacation home you are building that is thousands of miles away from your primary residence. It would make more sense to finish all the walls of the vacation home to make the primary more secure? You ALWAYS take care of home and your own first.

Not once Have I seen you address the Incredible failures of the dems- your TDS won't allow it. Watch the Vid of your guy in Israel...and tell me you weren't wrong- everything else from you is disingenuous.

Granted, there are some goofball Reps....and some that are hardline budget minded refusing to settle for the spending, spending, spending the Dems keep peddaling- makes sense when considering what the Dems have saddled us with. Personally the Reps that let that latest $1.9 trillion abortion of a spending bill go through can all go.

No Border closure- because they just say it is and you Dems believe them. But what about Trump....

Climate change is our worst enemy- but look at the Reps trying to sort it out....

When dem voters will never admit they Effed up we are doomed to fail. I hate to say it, but I don't think we have seen the worst of it....all because we are the weakest in decades.

Agree use other social media .. Now I'll get told not to read it.... that's not even Intelligent to say considering this is not a political site .

This is not related to archery or bowhunting .. sign of the times , where some think it's appropriate anytime anywhere .

Go ahead

Yet, here you are, posting on a political thread to complain about something you don’t care about. I’m assuming it doesn’t matter what thread you click on. Pat has it rigged to bring up a political post to piss guys like you off!

Exclusive on Fox-[actually the excellent Open the Books did the investigation]- so the brainwashed will consider it fake news even though its factual and footnoted. _____ Palestinian group accused of harboring terrorists received $1B from Biden admin: report Report reveals 100 pages of evidence that UNRWA schools taught hate toward Jewish people, glorified terrorism

( and worse) While former President Trump cut funding almost entirely to the UNRWA in 2018, OpenTheBooks.com noted that Biden reinstated the flow of taxpayer dollars to Gaza and the West Bank in April 2021, a few months after he took office.

Auditors found that $260 million more has been requested in the administration’s fiscal year 2024 budget. However, it has not yet been approved by Congress.

So, other than helping your party with free votes, in what way does an open border benefit you, that you ignore the obvious? I know you libs hate law enforcement, but if you finish the wall, control the gates, and patrol the entire thing with law enforcement, (like it used to be) it will greatly reduce the number of illegal aliens from coming over with no consequences. Perhaps YOU should link a study showing us that every illegal man, woman, and child, will simply scale it or tunnel under it.

That BDS of yours will get it into the diagnostics book yet.

"Threats fly as Jim Jordan's bid to be US House Speaker turns ugly

Republican lawmakers say they have been targeted by intimidation tactics, including death threats, from allies of Jim Jordan as his bid for the US House of Representatives speakership falters.

Several Republicans told reporters they had been subject to a pressure campaign by supporters of Mr Jordan, who lost a second vote for the gavel on Wednesday.

Mr Jordan, a right-wing Republican from Ohio, disavowed the harassment.

A hardline conservative revolt ousted the last Speaker on 3 October.

Marianne Miller-Meeks, an Iowa Republican, wrote in a statement on Wednesday that she had "received credible death threats and a barrage of threatening calls" after switching her vote to an alternative to Mr Jordan.

"One thing I cannot stomach, or support is a bully," she wrote.

Don Bacon, a Nebraska Republican who is a particularly vocal opponent of Mr Jordan, provided texts to Politico that appeared to show his wife being harassed by a supporter of the would-be Speaker.

"Your husband will not hold any political office ever again," one of the anonymous messages read. "What a disappoint [sic] and failure he is."

Mr Jordan denied any involvement in the pressure campaign.

Give it up Dana… you’ll never be able to overshadow your TDS, by pointing out someone else’s BDS!!!!

Now back to the topic - the dysfunctional House that *should be* able to elect a leader and should be able to impeach Santos and Menendez. Why ain't that happening? (And please, don't blame Biden! ;-) )

You can’t honestly sit there with a straight face and claim that Biden is clean as a whistle. I know, you know better. But I also know you’ll never admit it. Now, If only the main stream media would give china joe the same attention they gave trump.

Key Evidence:

“An interactive timeline of the Biden’s pay for play schemes Oversight Committee report revealing the Bidens’ dealings with foreign countries.”

“Biden Bank Records Memorandum showing the family created over 20 shell companies”

“Key Findings from the IRS Whistleblowers”

“Whistleblowers’ transcripts press release and links Follow-up letters seeking more transcribed interviews in the wake of the IRS whistleblowers’ explosive testimony”

“FBI Form 1023 alleging then-Vice President Joe Biden engaged in a bribery and extortion scheme and ultimately received $5 million from a Burisma executive.”

“Sixteen Times Joe Biden Lied About His Family’s Business Schemes”

“Twenty-Two Examples of Joe Biden’s Involvement in His Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes”

By the way… this IS on topic, as China joe is a major contributor to the “mess”!

You haven't mentioned Trump in Months. OMG, now you just are just being a flat Liar. Biden is guilty of at least one thing. Leaving the southern and northern Border open for the never ending invasion. Even when he sees what's going on in Israel, old Doo-Da Biden changes nothing and God only knows who all he is letting inn. But hey this is what you and the rest of the 81 million voted for. Well that and no mean Tweets

Have not mentioned 45 in months?? Tell us another whopper trumps Bitch 1. After all that's how you got your nick name. Lmao, might have to change that though , to one of the delusional bunch.

In regards to the house- The Liberal Dem whiners of the world are missing a critical point here.

The majority of Reps have been voting along the lines of the Dems. Jim Jordon is entirely against that...and he is one of the more ethical members of Congress- a Boy Scout if you will. This flys in the face of the massive Lobbying and money being thrown at our legislators to vote or anything and everything that benefits big Pharma, etc.

I do think the is the main reason Jordan is having a hard time- he is less likely to allow the gravy train that is congressional lobbying. It's becoming increasingly obvious that there are only a handful of- somewhat- honorable politicians in our gov on both sides.

Admittedly, there are a couple of goof balls Reps in Congress- I have no problem with calling them out. How these people...along with Dem congress folks like AOC, Talieb, and the rest of the squad members get elected is beyond me.

So the lib dems of the world that grasp at every straw to avoid having to admit their ideology is total garbage are missing the point of the wrangling in Congress. Personally, I think one of our only hopes here is to get a Boy Scout in there with some power to slow the roll of these lobbyists.

The first bill that Jordan introduced as a member of Congress — dubbed the “Clean Up Government Act” — sought to strengthen penalties for public corruption. It earned only three co-sponsors and failed to pass.

— That is essentially what we are dealing with here- all of the Democrats….and some Republicans that do not want this corruption to end.

Unlike the lib dems of the world, Im not OK with corruption if its “my guy”

And yeah, I do have SPDS- stupid people derangement syndrome along with calling out corruption wherever I see it.

I never claimed that. But the GOP can't seem to prove squat. So maybe Biden is smart enough to cover his tracks better than your idol. Third rate, but still 91 indictments smarter. But go on believing he's senile >;-)

I may change your nick name Any ideas ?? Pick your Poison

As long as we have liberal Dems and Rino Republicans in charge, beholden to lobby $$$$$$ and throwing money at everything and anything with no fiscal responsibility- we are hosed.

Fact from our CBO;

Net interest on federal debt jumped 34% to $572 billion in the latest fiscal year according to the Congressional Budget Office, doubling the budget shortfall to a record $1.6 trillion from last year.

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In the world of finance and budgets, a 34% increase in such a short time is a crushing number. Our gov will have to crank up the printing press even more which will only exacerbate inflation and our lower standard of living. Pair that with the huge added expenses of a massive influx of illegal aliens, wars and the current throwing money at every special interest- expect a continued downward spiral and probably a long grind 1970’s type inflationary environment.

Sorry for the rosy prediction, if anyone sees a way out of this, I’m all ears.

We can all weather this by cutting our expenditures- ( sorry Sitka) and pulling in our horns by not taking on more debt. Owning hard assets has been historically good. Planting a garden is always good- you get the idea.

The key here is we have to be smarter who we elect to represent us. An issue like championing LGBTQ has to change to doing whats right for the country as a whole- not just one special interest group. Hopefully we won’t have to hit rock bottom as voters to figure it out.

I hope neither Biden or Trump are our choices next year.

It doesn’t matter who the R’s put in the ring. If they have any chance of accomplishing the things Trump did, the D’s will simply harass him/her and stonewall their every attempt at getting things back to normal. It’ll start with another questionable election.

Mint…LMAO. Maybe if Trump is found guilty he can explain it to you.

Biden has Hunter on AF1 on hundreds of trips, phone calls, emails, witnesses, photo ops now a check in his name- of course Biden knew what was going on.

Obama campaign chair convicted of $88 million in illegal contributions ….of course he knew.

We have to shut this corruption down.

Link is to a Reuters article on the sabotage to the undersea gas and telecom lines going to Europe.

Three separate incidents. Satellite images show the same Chinese ship going over ALL 3 PIPES at the time of the incident….and the same Russian ship going over the pipe just afterward.

Pretty clear its sabotage by China and Russia…

Illinois Hands Out $536 Million In Tax Credits For 2,600 Jobs, Beneficiary Is China Illinois is paying over $206,000 per job for 2,600 jobs. The primary beneficiary is a Chinese company known for stealing technology.

Illinois is paying over $206,000 per job created to a company the FBI has flagged for “theft of trade secrets and economic espionage.” And Governor Pritzker is bragging about it. —- And who do you think is main beneficiary of the renewable solar mandate? China makes all of those solar panels going up everywhere. They made a good investment in Obama and the Biden family.

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If you get your news from the main stream media putting the border mess as a footnote, you may have believed Majorkas and Kamala Harris when they said the Border is shut down- news flash, they lied.

Latest headline…and these are just the ones they witnessed getting away…many more no doubt;

“Border Patrol clocking 1,000 'known gotaways' per day, over 23K people in October, CBP sources say U.S. Customs and Border Protection sources say there have been more than 23,000 'known gotaways' since the new fiscal year began” “According to CBP statistics, 169 people on the FBI terror watchlist were encountered between ports of entry at the southern border in the past 12 months, a number that exceeds not only the previous fiscal year's record-setting total (98) but the last six fiscal years combined.“ ————- Absolutely disgusting how this administration has infected the country with cartel members, criminals and terrorists….and it will cost us our safety, security and Billions of dollars over the next decade.

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Look it up: an Obama underling was CONVICTED of illegal campaign contributions abd went to jail, $88 million as I recall

Study- University of Virginia Center for Politics poll that delivered astounding results: “Fifty-two percent of Biden supporters say Republicans are now a threat to American life while 47 percent of Trump supporters say the same about Democrats. Among Biden supporters, 41 percent now believe violence is justified ‘to stop [Republicans] from achieving their goals.’ An almost identical percentage, 38 percent, of Trump supporters now embrace violence to stop Democrats. … Some 31 percent of Trump supporters believe that the nation should explore alternative forms of government. Roughly a quarter (24 percent) of Biden supporters also question the viability of democracy.”

Americas politics are just like the progression of time…slowly and steadily marching ahead to the end goal.

I don’t think those numbers have been this close to 50% in my lifetime.

Now, I don’t think it will be long before they do make a 50% split. What then…a civil war? I can’t imagine what that would look like with so many illegal aliens currently in the country. Will they be forced to pick a side? Will they all run back to the country they fled, just get away from an American civil war? Or will they willingly pick up arms and fight as outsiders against the very citizens that foot the bill for them to be here illegally? How many illegal aliens with ban together to attempt to overthrow our government? If I understand correctly, Rashida Talib was banned from Israel for supporting the Palestinian terrorists. Yet she gets elected to a government that vows not to negotiate with terrorists…WTF??!!! Think about that for a minute. What could possibly go wrong?!

By golly, if we had a functioning gov't, the USA wouldn't have its own Oktober Revolution...

WWIII has already started, the Biden Democrats and some of the Congressional Republicans just haven’t recognized it yet.

Multiple attacks in Syria but the US delayed releasing the death stats.

Destroyers intercepting cruise missiles. Iran unleashing multiple militias that are attacking US military bases.

Pipelines and fiberoptic cables to Europe sabotaged by China and Russia.

We have the equivalent of multiple armies already inside the US….collecting $300 per person a week.

The US sending 10,000 troops and ships….along with Europe amassing the largest military force since WWII in the Mediterranean.

Lets hope this stays in the middle east…but it has the potential to get ugly. Be safe out there.

There’s been so many people cross the southern border. And, both parties are guilty. They just like pointing at the other as the reason. It’s just political puppets to appease the angering republic. However, not one politician for either party wants a border. Only Trump.

But, at least we don’t have to worry about anyone getting insulted. Shew. I’ll sleep easier knowing the American people see this for how dangerous it is.

Trump will be convicted and then thrown out on Appeal but the Democrats do not care one bit about the law or the constitution.

The Biden admin is focusing on “Climate change as our #1 threat” …….And outlawing menthol cigarettes.

Its beyond egregious.

A cess pool of rampant crime in the cities; Pre school teachers getting attacked while walking toddlers in the streets of DC

Telegraphing to the world anyone can walk through our southern border.

Thats the policy and ideology of one political party

But at least KSFlat was vindicated with his choice at the ballot box. That's all that matters anyway...

Maybe the operable word there is "caught".

In any case, beyond just control of the border, significant immigration policy reform has to be part of the answer. Not much chance of that with a minority of incompetent Republicans obstructing congress.

Yeah, uh huh. The Dems. had for control for 2 years, and what exactly did they do to curb the flow across the border? Yep, not a dang thing.

We as citizens need to initiate a grass roots, shut down the corruption, insider trading and Lobbying money flowing to our legislators- something with teeth in it.

Thinking they are going to do it on their own is like asking them to do their own surgery.

Basketball player Jonathan Isaac on the Magic standing for the national anthem when the rest of his team kneels.

His comment; And I said, ‘Fellas, I’m not going to kneel, and I’m not going to wear that T-shirt. Simply because I have another solution. I don’t believe that kneeling for the national anthem or wearing a T-shirt is the same thing as saying that we support Black lives. They’re not synonymous.

"I believe that the ultimate answer is that if White and Black people collectively can choose to love each other in spite of the differences, in spite of the fallouts, in spite of the sins of each other, then we could have true change. Because we all fall short of God’s glory. We’ve all done wrong, and it’s easy to point the finger at somebody when their wrong is displayed. But if ours were, how would we want to be handled?'"

Senator Grassley's letter to them lists multiple levels of corruption. Stone walling evidence including 40 informants on the Bidens corruption.

The US Atty office comment is pretty telling;

Former Pittsburgh U.S. Attorney Scott Brady revealed to the House Judiciary Committee that his team found enough credible evidence in its initial review of Hunter Biden’s dealings with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings and possible corruption by Joe Biden to refer criminal matters to three separate U.S. Attorney's offices in Brooklyn, Manhattan and Delaware for further investigation.

But almost immediately after he was assigned by the Justice Department in 2020 to review Biden family matters in Ukraine, Brady said he encountered resistance at both the FBI and the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s office that at times required him to escalate to his bosses in the deputy attorney general’s office. -Just the News

Basketball player Jonathan Isaac on the Magic standing for the national anthem when the rest of his team kneels.

His comment; And I said, ‘Fellas, I’m not going to kneel, and I’m not going to wear that T-shirt. Simply because I have another solution. I don’t believe that kneeling for the national anthem or wearing a T-shirt is the same thing as saying that we support Black lives. They’re not synonymous.

"I believe that the ultimate answer is that if White and Black people collectively can choose to love each other in spite of the differences, in spite of the fallouts, in spite of the sins of each other, then we could have true change. Because we all fall short of God’s glory. We’ve all done wrong, and it’s easy to point the finger at somebody when their wrong is displayed. But if ours were, how would we want to be handled?'"

If you haven’t seen it, check his questioning of Majorkis- calling him on his lies, dereliction of duty and mishandling of the border. Hopefully we will see proceedings to dump him.

Then we have the new speaker putting pressure on the corrupt DOJ to release the piles of evidence and 40+ whistleblowers testimony that they have been hiding on the Biden crime family.

I hope he continues his crusade against corruption

Democrats own the policy of pushing offshore wind farms on us.

From Orsted the outfit installing the offshore wind farms at Orsted.com, their 10Q report; ——— Therefore, as part of our ongoing review of our US offshore wind portfolio, we’ve decided to cease the development of Ocean Wind 1 and Ocean Wind 2. At the same time, we’ve taken final investment decision on the 704 MW Revolution Wind project, progressing it to the construction phase with an attractive forward-looking value creation.

“Based on the challenged US portfolio and the current market conditions, we’ve initiated numerous actions to ensure our capital structure and rating and to improve our competitiveness and value creation.” ——-

In other words- its not a viable project….and they are taking the federal $$$ and abandoning the project altogether.

The federal $$$ is a production payment. They get federal subsidies per electron production. So exactly ZERO taxpayer dollars were lost with this project being cancelled.

I see the dept of energy is giving out $7B for hydrogen production. Just like the hypocrites involved in this rush to green what they don’t say is hydrogen isn’t “green” it takes more energy to make than it gives out in return. Another Democrat boon doggle

Rep. Jim Jordan

@Jim_Jordan A whistleblower informed us that the FBI pulled agents off child abuse cases to pursue January 6th investigations.

Now it’s been revealed that DHS is pulling agents off similar investigations to make sandwiches for illegal aliens at the southern border. ——-

——- This is the Democrat party, an insight into their thought process and how they view every issue- through a partisan political lens

I may be wrong, but from what I’ve read, there is not a wind farm that creates a profit without government supplements and credits to install and run. The wind farms in the CA Altamont where my buddy has been running cattle for decades have gone bankrupt at least twice that I know of. Each time a new outfit gets gov stimmy money to come in and get them going again. Meanwhile PGE the local power provider put a big surcharge on everyones power bill for renewable energy.

The Altamont windmills have done 2 retrofits- again that I know of from talking to the guys working there- in the last 20 years. It seems these windmills are good for about 5-10 years ( much shorter than the claim) and they are done. How can those numbers pan out?

For the record, I’ m for renewables where it makes sense- but that needs to be integrated into a spider web grid connected to nuclear for reliable power.

This has been going on for months. Did you read the article?

Democrat election fraud- is anyone surprised the Democrats cheated? Link at Zero Hedge has video of this Democrat cheating

The corrupt DOJ and partisan Dem state AG’s have tried to bury this..but there are still some impartial judges at the local level.

Bridgeport Election Overturned After City Official Pleads 5th To Ballot Harvesting

Bridgeport, Connecticut judge ruled on Wednesday to overturn the city's Democratic primary election after video emerged of a woman who appears to be the city's vice chair of the Democratic Town Committee, Wanda Geter-Pataky, committing ballot fraud.

In a 37-page ruling, Judge William Clark ordered a new Democratic primary based on 180 pieces of evidence presented by legal council for mayoral candidate John Gomes - who posted the following video to Facebook on September 16, and was seen by the court. ————

As Musk stated, this is just one location with an honest judge…in reality, how prolific is this across the US?

I’m surprised Schumer or Pelosi hasnt lobbied to have the mail slot enlarged…some of those cheaters had to stand there for awhile as their stacks of ballots wouldn’t fit through the slot.

The liberal Democrats are using that money as a slush fund to prop up more bad policy decisions. It will be years before he find out how bad it really is.

From Real Clear website- While America struggles to buy groceries, President Joe Biden has a green slush fund worth billions of dollars, and he’s not afraid to use it.

Recent revelations uncovered that the CEO and lobbyists of Rivian, an electric vehicle manufacturer, held a quiet meeting at the White House with Biden’s Climate Czar, John Podesta. That’s right, the same John Podesta who served as chairman of Hillary Clinton’s ill-fated 2016 presidential campaign before being pulled from the ranks of profitable green consulting to oversee distribution of $369 billion from the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA). Biden selected a political operative with green company ties to dole out the goodies from one of the largest slush funds in history. Now green CEOs who are hemorrhaging cash are beating a path to his White House office, presumedly with hat in hand.

According to media reports, Rivian is deep in the red. Last year, they lost $6.8 billion. In 2021, it was $4.7 billion, which is in addition to the $1 billion lost in 2020. These massive losses happened as EV manufacturers enjoyed large subsidies both to build and sell their vehicles. In fact, President Biden went out of his way to praise Rivian in early 2022, even though their stock had already lost half its value on its way to losing 87% of its value since 2021. Losing over $12 billion in less than three years would normally be a problem in the business world, but in the upside-down reality of Biden’s green agenda, that gets you a meeting at the White House.

Tax dollars are flowing from the IRA so quickly that the Department of Energy’s Inspector General (IG) may be running out of adjectives.

( more at Real clear article, “ Too Favored to Fail” )

Hogwash! Ballot harvesting is a conspiracy theory. Just ask the lefties here for their opinion of ‘1000 Mules’. They’ve got every excuse under the sun to prove it doesn’t happen.

Funny how they don’t talk about trumps Russia collusion anymore. They can’t stand the fact that they got caught trying to frame him. Trump is accused of trying start an insurrection, yet nobody is talking about the graffiti and vandalism to DC caused by the pro-Palestinian protests. The bias is obvious, which tells me they aren’t genuine in their outrage. But, that’s how the Dems roll!

Tell that to trump! He’s being investigated for simply talking about it. It seems that everyone think he’s the only real threat to our voting system. Lol!

Many cases where ballots were harvested….ballots destroyed before independents could inspect….election monitors intimidated and forcibly removed. You think thats fair and equal justice?

This Bridgeport election fraud only got exposed because we have an honest local judge that wouldn’t allow it to be swept under the rug. Watch the youtube vid of twenty different ballot stuffers and you think this is the only spot? There are video interviews of a guy harvesting ballots for Omar with hundreds of ballots in his backseat- he admitted it…and no FBI investigation.

The only conclusion; state DA’s and Biden DOJ is political and crooked.

Why are J6’ers that walked in through open doors of the capitol facing prison terms…but the Palestinian protestors that actually disrupted Congress get nothing?

Every president takes docs…but they only prosecute Trump

Soros sponsored DA in Alameda county, Ca won’t prosecute 66% of violent crimes, intervened in a murder case and hired her BF to a $100k plus job-

When Enforcement is dirty, there is no legit elections.

So many examples

Illinois results are out, Only 35% of kids can read at grade level.....only 27% are at grade level Math.

Illinois cancelled the scholarship fund for 9,600 kids that gives kids a chance to attend Charter schools and escape the public school system.

Yeah, Charter school success make the public teachers look bad.....so what does the teachers union do- penalize the good kids. The same thing happened in the Oakland, Ca school system. They were using the Teach To One program....and there were kids going from 6th grade math to pre Calculus in one year.

Nope, Can't have that....they cancelled the program....the good kids were making the kids that didn't study look bad. Their solution, Teach to the lowest common denominator.

My heart goes out to the few good teachers left. Our education system needs a complete overhaul....but it won't happen with the amount of dead weight teachers and professors we currently have.

How can we look at what our schools and universities are producing and think it's working?

It’s mentality like this that got us January 6. I guess it not just the left who can’t handle “mean tweets” or free speech.

Bad a#%…more like dumb a#%

In other news, McCarthy (remember him?) was accused of elbowing another House member. That's some serious Jr. high school shite right there. Washington DC should immediately issue carry licenses to every member of Congress. Make America Polite Again!

PS you know things are crazy when Bernie effin Sanders is the voice of reason >;-)

He shouldn't have fallen for the Union guy thing. He was baited and fell for it hook line and sinker. Will he be ultimately be judged by the words of this moment, or of his actions of a lifetime?

"Protect" them from what? A 'peaceful protest'? LMAO!

Prior to that he fanned the stole election flames. Apparently not learning anything because he still does it today. So spare me. You don’t get credit for trying to put out the flames when you helped start the fire.

“went to Afghanistan with personal funds to rent a helicopter to help evacuate (against Pelosi and McCarthy's recommendations) Americans who were put in harms way.”

Commendable but he was advised it would do more harm than good by congress, the pentagon, and DOD but TRIED to do it anyway. He never did get to Afghan but sure tweeted about it. And in when was it ever possible to account for your good deeds over your bad ones anyways.

He’s a manchild, virtue signaler, and moron. The teamsters guy should have clapped back and challenged him to a spelling contest.

So now it was 'mostly' peaceful? How many have gone to *jail* so far for their 'peaceful' actions that day? With more on the docket... Nothing wrong with building barricades BUT WHY WERE THEY NEEDED IN THE FIRST PLACE??? Peaceful my (eye).

Next up, the radicals in the House will eat the new speaker for cutting a deal with (shudder!) Democrats to keep the government running. Stuff a few more clowns in that car, the shocks can take it >;-)

what word would he start with..."thug?"

"Teamster Official Suspended over threats to members

(*cough* Markey *cough*)

cant argue with you there...

is there such a thing as a spelling bee with pictures?

The "mostly peaceful protest" line is a joke about how the media spent a yr telling us the riots weren't riots. It seemed like a good time to use the joke since your brought up peaceful protests in reference to the mob storming the capital.

When will your docket include prosecuting and jailing people for property damage and violence against the cops within the pro Palestinian “peaceful protests”? I suppose that will never happen unless trump decides to support Palestine. I can’t believe you guys still rally around the current administration. This isn’t about trump anymore. It’s about the unprecedented democrat power grab and dereliction of duty that should be a concern to every American. Not to mention the disregard for due process, the anti-semitism and terrorist sympathizing that certain democratic leaders openly display.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/16/santos-ethics-reports-finds-substantial-evidence-of-criminal-wrongdoing-00127527

Man, to think…you elected Biden that has done nothing but take payola and is a barely functioning adult…..the rest of the world is walking all over us because of it. Then Google how many illegals and Gotaways flooded the border again this month while the Biden admin considers more aid to the bad guys.

Yeah, focus on the couple Reps that confound us all…..and never admit your party has been taken over by Soros, woke idiots and Squad members.

"Your" argument is that because I point out GOP failings I approve of Democrat failings. Nope. Just that the GOP is (currently) even worse. Ten years ago I would not have believed it possible. Now it's a clown car, and all the FJB koolaid you're drinking ain't gonna change that. Sorry.

Biden- incoherent...agreed.

Biden- border...not good and he owns it

Eventually you will get someone to actually believe the in depth dribble that you post

No way the Republicans have even half the freaks you helped get elected to the Dems side of the isle.

Keep swinging man, keep swinging, it's all you got left

im not usually the grammar police but you forgot the comma between "got" and "left." lol

No, my argument is that you completely ignore democrat failings in the name of “get trump”, And then you parrot the excuses they use as they ignore the obvious train wreck that is the current administration. The fact that you approve of the double standard speaks volumes.

“Now it's a clown car, and all the FJB koolaid you're drinking ain't gonna change that. Sorry.”

Please, enlighten us on all the non “clown car” successes and achievements of china joe and his posse. By the way, what happened to the new border concerns that the Democrats recently had? I thought they finally decided that the border needs some attention… when will they start showing their work? Or do you listen to the news and believe the border is secure? When we have another attack on our soil, will you rely on Biden to protect us?

I just figured you’d be a little more critical of him since you voted for him.

Ok Dana, then what is your take on the refusal to impeach Mayorkas? Do you agree with him that we don’t have a border problem?

I don’t support or endorse the GOP. They’re a bunch of pussies that pander to the left wing threats and scare tactics. Every last one of them is as worthless as tits on a bull, yet you seem upset that they call out a union rube for contributing to the corruption of the system.

Personally I hope Haley wins in 2024.

"The chair of the House Ethics Committee plans to introduce another effort to boot the New York Republican from the House, following the panel’s explosive report."

Good start.

Dereliction of duty. Are you ok with it?

What's your plan to replace Biden?

She called for the US to import the Gaza refugees....She agrees with WHO and the Euro trash criticizing Israel.

Since when is Doubling down on bad choices a Strategy?

FWIW, I'm equally disgusted with some Reps who vote with this horrid Dem policy....and ho vote against sanctions for the Treasonous Talib...or sanctions on Santos. Those Rinos are political animals that need removal...but they are just passengers on the bus....the ones driving; Biden, Obama, Soros, Schumer, Kerry, Code Pink- they are the ones driving Dem policy and destroying our country and I will continue to put emphasis on exposing them.

i like haley and if she were to somehow win the nomination id vote for her in a heartbeat, but i like desantis better. having said that...the republican that wins the nomination...whether its trump...desantis...or whoeever... they better adopt haleys views on abortion...or the republicans will lose again. that goes for house and senate candidates too.

Its not Biden- who will go down in history as one of the most corrupt admins ever. Its not Newsom who has wrecked everything he touches- SF, CA- that guy is a cancer.

Its not the slick talking Reps that have helped cause my graphic posted….

We need a strong fiscal conservative to right our ship. Democrats will never agree, they want their freebies and myriad of pork laden social programs. Ask yourself; out of all of the billions spent to supposedly help criminals, LGBTQ, the selective races, or just pick a special interest category- how much has that helped the US? Give aways don’t work…its the teach a man to fish programs that do.

The spending is out of control. All of the Dems and some of the Rinos are driving into a hole that will be tough to recover from. Sadly, I think most voters are too stupid to see this…they vote with their uninformed gut.

I do not 100% agree with Desantis on some issues, but he is a man of integrity and so far he has the best economic track record of any candidate. Ramswaramy talks a good game…but his track record is in business. I think Trump some very good policy but he overspent. What bothers me most about Trump is he is not a fiscal conservative…and his knee jerk comments and decision making.

Examples; He fired Tillerson ( and wouldn’t listen to him) all because of ego and he couldn't delegate. He made some bad decisions on Mueller, Fauchi, Barr, Wray. I think with more research, he would have found that all of those clowns are the wrong choice. Granted, Trump is a patriot….but its too much about him. IMO, Trump had his chance.

Today; The Department of Defense (DOD) failed its sixth straight audit with little positive change from the year prior, despite pledges from Pentagon leaders to make improvements on the massive undertaking each year.

Auditors gave seven of the department’s 29 sub-agencies a clean audit in 2023, with no change from the 2022 audit, according to a Wednesday statement. Although it’s not a surprise that the DOD hasn’t yet been able to account for its $3.8 trillion enterprise and $4 trillion in liabilities, scattered across 50 states and 4,500 sites globally, DOD officials previously said they expected to see incremental improvement, Defense News reported. ———-

Voting for the feel good candidate doesn’t work. …we need fiscally responsible managers.

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She also stabbed Trump in the back, and millions of Trump supporters aren't going to forget it.

so if it was haley against biden...or newsome...or manchin...or rfk jr...or any other democrat...who would you vote for?

If the Never-Trumpers were willing to roll the dice and deliberately allow Biden to win, knowing it would destroy the country.... then I can, too.

This establishment left vs right game has been going on too long, with BOTH sides eroding the country at its core. Dying slowly or quickly is basically irrelevant with an incurable cancer.

If its another establishment candidate, then let it end quickly and start again from scratch. F'em.

well...id say well see how that works out for you. unfortunately it will also be how it works out for all of us.

never ceases to amaze me how many people are willing to cut off their nose to spite their face...and then proceed to complain about how they cant smell.

The RINOs all KNEW that Biden would fail, and welcomed it as a means to get rid of Trump and put the establishment right back into power. And we can't let them win.... while they look the other way and allow the Dems to prosecute and imprison the leading political opposition.

More of the same greed and corruption from either party won't help. And I am not bailing water anymore.....

Sink or swim.... I don't care. It will take an outsider to have any hope of righting the ship. Anything less is fiddling while it burns. I'll be watching with mild amusement holding the jiffy-pop!

person in the primary...party in the general.

...cuz that worked out so well in 2020.

we all get it...you dont like trump. i think you might have mentioned that once or twice before.

as a person...i dont either...but i liked many of his policies and judicial appointments...and thats why i vote for any politician...not to be my friend... my soul mate...or my conscience in chief.

(And notice the smear campaign against her cranking up? MAGA nation is afraid of her, same as their won't-debate orange idol.)

WTF are the rest of them waiting for? Cupcakes?

if by "revenge" you mean reinstating many of the policies the biden admin did away with...weeding out those in intelligence and justice that perpetrated and facilitated what they did to trump...that would be reason to vote for him...not against him...and certainly not throwing away my vote all together.

voting based on emotion got us biden. thanks.

really? give us a link to what he said...so we all can make a determination about what he was talking about.

yes...this country deserves "revenge." revenge on those that wish to use the intelligence departments and the judicial system to bring down political opponents.

i dont know whether you realize this or not but holding people accountable for breaking the law is not "revenge"...it is justice.

Thanks to a Freedom on information request we find that Fauchi and the CDC lied about the Covid virus. They literally just made stuff up to suit their narrative…and this is just the first shoe to drop on this.

All of the insistence by the Dems running the show who were in bed with the big pharma companies- this is BS…what else did they lie about? Then there are ongoing studies showing loose DNA floating around in the Vax that could be causing us problems.

From articles on Epoch times and ZH, link is the original lie by the CDC;

In a new Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) response, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now admits that it recommended COVID-19 vaccines for people who had recovered from COVID-19 despite the fact that CDC subject matter experts didn't have access to the underlying data.

The stunning disclosure came in reply to a FOIA request for information on the CDC’s claim, first made on Oct. 29, 2021, that unvaccinated people with previous infection were five times more likely to get COVID-19 than vaccinated people.

The CDC’s claim was based on a CDC study published in the Nov. 9, 2021, edition of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. The conflicts-of-interest section of the study had noted that a number of the study’s authors were being sponsored by pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Merck, Sanofi, and GlaxoSmithKline. At least four of the listed pharmaceutical companies were involved in the manufacturing and sale of COVID-19 vaccines.

Or do you mean "revenge" on the corrupt partisan system used to rig elections and weaponize the justice department to do the above??

Absolutely. And if Trump broke the law then there should be justice. He will get his day in court. Either he is judged by his peers as guilty or not guilty.

Everything is rigged in Trumper world. Voting, CIA, FBI, DOJ, media, yada, yada, yada

You won’t hear about this across the country but Palestinian protestors blocked the Golden Gate bridge one day…and the Bay Bridge the next.

Many stories of disruption but one was an organ courier for organ transplant that got held up for 1/2 a day and the organ went bad. Newsom liberal justice gave them a slap on the hand and let them go. The liberal news here wouldn’t report it if the patient died or not so I’m not sure what happened. My friend at the UCSF transplant center is out with a broken wrist from pickleball.

Excellent question!!! Just don’t hold your breath for a comprehensive answer.

This weekend, the New York Times published a piece admitting that school lockdowns may have been the "most damaging disruption" to kids in U.S. history.

Titled "The Startling Evidence On Learning Loss Is In," the editorial board highlighted the "significant" learning loss from forcing over 50 million kids to stay out of the classroom, away from their peers, and instead learn from computers at home alone.

"The evidence is now in, and it is startling. The school closures that took 50 million children out of classrooms at the start of the pandemic may prove to be the most damaging disruption in the history of American education," the paper stated. "The evidence is now in, and it is startling. The school closures that took 50 million children out of classrooms at the start of the pandemic may prove to be the most damaging disruption in the history of American education."

On the other hand, how many deaths were avoided by closing the schools?

based on what we know now...if you dont think every one of those conspired against trump...you are truly delusional...as if that was ever a question. lets not forget...you are the person who said a vote for biden was a vote "for the constitution."

yes...if trump broke the law he should be held accountable...to the same extent as anyone else in the same situation.

i doubt it. parents who make the conscious decision to home school are some of the most involved parents there are in their kids education...a far cry from sending every kid home with a tablet and a zoom connection and saying good luck.

This is the self-fulfilling prophecy of Trump and the Trumpers just mindlessly fall for it. He predicts everything is rigged against him then he gets caught after the prediction. Sounds like every person who has ever went to prison.

They never stop to realize that there would have to be thousands of people working together and conspiring all while keeping it a secret. It's just Mind numbing...

When he gets to court it will just be him, lawyers, judge, and jury. No conspiracy just evidence. He's innocent until proven guilty but let the constitutional court process play out for goodness sake. And Trump is no innocent bystander. He creates his own weather the screams "rigged and witch hunt" when it rains.

Trump wants to piss on the constitution for ego and arrogance. Trumpers like his dog whistles about hate so much they too piss right along with him.

Defund the FBI/CIA and gut the DOJ. Back the blue my a#%.

My vote for Biden/against Trump was a vote for the constitution and the brain washed Trumpers on January 6 proved that.

like i said before...if you think the msm...as well as some (not all) in the intelligence community and the justice department havent worked (and continue to work) to bring trump down you are delusional...dishonest...or just plain stupid. take your pick.

regarding "back the blue," there is a huge difference between rank and file law enforcement and intelligence and the political animals at the top of those organizations.

Excellent question!!! Just don’t hold your breath for a comprehensive answer.

“He predicts everything is rigged against him then he gets caught after the prediction.”

“They never stop to realize that there would have to be thousands of people working together and conspiring all while keeping it a secret. It's just Mind numbing...”

So, are you saying the Steel Dossier and Russia collusion was, in fact, authentic, even after if was discovered to be false?!!!

“ They never stop to realize that there would have to be thousands of people working together and conspiring all while keeping it a secret. It's just Mind numbing...”

That is exactly what is happening now with the partisan politics of the entire federal government. We find out daily the extent Democrat politicians have hid stuff; The Border mess Editing hours of J6 footage to make it look more violent than it was Prosecuting Christians and conservatives while letting radical liberal dems go free Manipulating school curriculum And on and on….

You are literally brainwashed…and you don’t realize it, OR you do see the massive left turn, the woke ideology pervasive in the Dem party and just choose to ignore it.

We can have an intellectual discussion….but not in these two cases above.

not if one or more of the parties is intellectually dishonest. unfortunately, that is the case with those here who are so ate up with hatred for trump that it overwhelms their capacity for reason and logic...among other things.

That's an oxymoron when it comes to Trumpers. You conflate so much BS and then talk about intellectual honesty...unbelievable. Bend it and twist it around.

I'm tired of hearing right wing nuts complain about the bias media when they use even more biased right wing news propaganda from gateway pundit, Fox News, Newsmax, OANN, ect. You're not interested in unbiased news...otherwise you would look at neutral and credible news sources. You just seek out s#%t you want to hear. What the hell am I even talking about...you won't even believe your own eyes regarding J6. The fact that you all try to whitewash J6 says everything about your intellect. It's not Patriotism...not even close. J6 was the most disgraceful and unpatriotic action I've seen in my lifetime. I hope all J6ers get the book thrown at them.

Beendare- if you're so unhappy with your daily idiot rants then move to another country. If you don't love it then leave it-Merle Haggard.

Either back the blue...all the blue... or not. J6 sympathizers say they back the blue. LMAO. That's some mental gymnastics. Exactly the same as those who want to defund and gut the FBI, CIA, and DOJ. 99.9% honest people doing and honest job just like you. Would you lie at work for your company president? Conspiracy idiots.

If there's a witch hunt and illegal conspiracy then charge the people involved and present evidence in court or STFU. My guess it would go the same way as the +60 plus voting fraud cases. And you all still fall for Trumps BS lies and self-fulfilling idiot prophecies.

Are you referring to the neutral and credible news source’s that told us burning down the city after someone dies of a drug overdose, is considered a “peaceful protest”? Lol!

You guys are actually starting to convince me that the Democratic Party is the most honest, and high integrity leadership this country needs!…once again I say…LOL!

that might be the dumbest thing ive seen posted here...other than maybe the voting for biden was a vote "for the constitution" garbage.

i dont back (or condemn) "all" of any group. there are good and bad in every organization. that goes for the intelligence community...the justice department...the msm...etc...etc...etc.

as mentioned before...anyone who doesnt recognize that...lacks the capacity for reason and logic...among other things.

No s#%t Sherlock. Back the blue is the right wing tag line not mine. They don't chant "back some of the blue." Or "back most of the blue."

Last I knew "blue" means law enforcement and I believe the police, FBI, CIA, and DOJ all enforce LAWS. But like usual you want to split hairs if it benefits your idiot logic. Freaking hypocrite.

I can feel it...Ricky is winding that leg up to start kicking LMAO.

Excuse my short temper today. Had a big 10 with a hot doe 60-100 yards this morning for 2 hours. Frustrating as the logic of Ricky and Beendare.

they dont need to...it goes without saying. only an idiot would think it "back the blue" applied to everyone in the cia...fbi...or le. just another one of your straw men.

"Last I knew "blue" means law enforcement and I believe the FBI, CIA, and DOJ enforce LAWS. But like usual you want to split hairs if it benefits your idiot logic. Freaking hypocrite."

how am i a hypocrite? have i ever suggested that we should defund the cia...fbi...or any other group?

the only hypocrite is the one attempting to suggest in order to back any group...you must back everyone in that group.

as to your short temper...if an unsuccessful encounter with a buck sets you off...you need help.

I thought Back THE Blue mostly stemmed in response to Defund THE Police. Guess if one is all inclusive both are all inclusive. Can't have it both ways.

Street cops protect the citizens and communities. The three lettered agencies simply protect themselves and their cronies. Look up “Nancy Pelosi” for examples. Of course, if I’m not mistaken, not naming names; someone here claimed that trump had the DOJ in his pocket. If that were the case he wouldn’t be their number one target. But go on and believe what those credible news sources tell you to believe.

thats pretty much what everyone thinks. everyone except for those who try to twist it in an attempt to disparage those they dont agree with.

"back the blue" has been around for years and has never meant condoning bad conduct by law enforcement. it just means showing support for those that put their lives on the line to keep the rest of us safe.

I love America....thats why I post these things...for the avg guys among us that are uninformed. Ks calls it a rant- these are facts, footnoted...and you Dem's that are oblivious should open your eyes to the Brainwashing you have been getting. These are facts...not Ks constant blubbering about Trumpers...blah blah blah.

I point out the hypocrisy. The NY Times turning on a dime would be funny if Conservatives here in CA weren't screaming at Newsom and the corrupt Teachers Assoc that wouldn't go back to work. CA was the last schools to go back. That is Dem policy plain and simple.

Maybe one of you liberal Dem teachers in Illinois can explain why politicos are throwing $100M of the Biden slush fund at Foreigners instead of taking care of our own: _________ Preckwinkle budget passes as Cook County sets migrant health care fund – Chicago Tribune/MSN November 17, 2023

To pay for the new $100 million emergency fund dedicated almost entirely to asylum-seekers’ health care, the county will shift planned spending around, tapping leftover funds from 2022 to seed it. While that money was initially supposed to shore up pensions, the county will draw down its Pension Stabilization Fund instead. The change of plans doesn’t impact the county’s efforts to fully fund its pensions by 2047, budget officials say. __________ Or why Chicago Schools spend 40% more than other areas and students are at abysmal Math and Reading levels? [See my wire points link]

The common thread to Dem policy fails is this; No accountability.

Yes, sir.

Catscratch- my entire life both personally and professional I've been in the woods and wilds observing and collecting data. You insinuate I don't appreciate wildlife LOL whatever. Good grief. You wouldn't last very long with the guys and gals in my hunting group.

Ricky- You know damn good and well that when I said all blue it meant all law enforcement agencies and not every single individual law enforcement officer. If you don't get that or choose to be obtuse that's your problem. But it does make the point about intellectual dishonesty and discussions. It's always the same with you. Reminds me of KPC back in the day.

Beendare- Frankly, your posts are generally not worth debating they are so far out there. Typically, I just ignore them and all your right wing propaganda sources. The Gateway Pundit...really. LMAO not even worth the calories to type a response.

Beau Biberaj the Soros sponsored progressive Dem is the Loudon Co, Va Commonwealth Atty running for reelection.

She stopped prosecuting misdemeanors- then claimed crime dropped on her watch ( fooling some uninformed voters)

A man who had been ar­rested for beat­ing his wife was re­leased on bond af­ter Ms. Bib­eraj agreed. The man was given an an­kle bracelet, and he then re­turned to his wife’s apart­ment and killed her with a ham­mer.

Ms. Bib­eraj chose to pros­e­cute Scott Smith af­ter he was wres­tled to the floor at a con­tentious school board meet­ing. Mr. Smith said he showed up to com­plain about how of­fi­cials han­dled his daugh-ter’s sex­ual as­sault in a school bath­room. The boy had been re­leased and then trans­ferred to an­other school—where he as­saulted an­other girl.

This is the Progressive Dem policy we have seen in action across the country. One would think she would have been blown out….yeah, whew she lost…..but by only 300 votes.

>;-)

"You know damn good and well that when I said all blue it meant all law enforcement agencies and not every individual law enforcement officer. If you don't get that or choose to be obtuse that's your problem. But it does make the point about intellectual dishonesty and discussions."

make no mistake...we get your subtlety... like claiming you were only being sarcastic when your intellectual dishonesty is exposed.

yes..."back the blue" most definitely applies to all law enforcement agencies...just not to all of the people within those agencies. to my knowledge nobody here said otherwise. thats another one of your red herrings. there are bad actors in every organization and they need to be weeded out. only a moron...or someone who is intellectually dishonest...would suggest otherwise...or think thats only a "right wing" thing.

heck, im not even sure ive seen anyone here say they support any illegal activity that happened on j6. i have seen them say that its curious how it was allowed to happen and why the rioters on j6 were treated differently than the rioters anywhere else. why isnt our justice department going after the minneapolis rioters or the baltimore rioters with the same fervor they are going after the j6 rioters? that is a decision that comes from the top.

either we have a system that prosecutes all mishandling of classified documents or we dont. either we have a system that prosecutes all exaggeration of property values when applying for a loan or we dont. either we have a system of laws that apply to everyone or we dont.

no sane (or honest) person would suggest otherwise.

That's the intellectual dishonesty with right wing nuts/Trumpers. Back the blue before J6 next they are beating a DC cop with a back the blue flag on the steps of congress. They rail against defund the police then Trump is indicted then it's defund the FBI/CIA and gut the DOJ. You want to split hair and mince words to justify the latter. It's the same coin different side and both as bad as the other. Full stop.

Equating all local riots to a riot and planned violent insurrection (as several members of J6 were convicted) to stop a constitutional process...it is NOT the same. If you don't understand the difference then either you want to or you're intellectually dishonest. You want to equate purposefully (for which Trump was found guilty/liable) cheating banks and the state of multimillions to average Joe inflating their home value for a bank loan. Sure a kid stealing a candy bar is the same as someone stealing a $250,000 car. Oh well it's all stealing...right. Just like in the classified documents case. You think intent has nothing to do with it. Giving back voluntarily when asked is the same as failing to comply with a subpoena and lying about it and bragging at parties about the countries nuclear secrets. There are degrees to all law violations and there always has been. They are not the same. But both are wrong.

This is what makes you intellectually dishonest. You split down to the very fines pieces or way over generalize whichever works for your narrative. That's your gig. You insinuate and dance around the edges so you can always fall back on "I didn't say that." Then you start kicking the horse and talking in circles. It's a form of cowardice if you ask me. Don't hide and dance on the edge just like that buck did LMAO. You're a closet bigot and a Trumper who tries to hide it. You're not very good at it either.

Trump is a threat to our constitution and talks and acts like a fascist dictator. Full stop.

Go hunt instead of starting and perpetuating these stupid non-hunting threads.

Week in Review...

- 14,300 Apprehensions - 300 lbs. of Fentanyl - 183 Federal Criminal Cases - 33 Rescues - 15 Human Smuggling Events - 7 Narcotics Events - 2 Firearms Seized ———- You can follow US Border patrol chief John R. Modlin on Twitter, my link wont load

So, if you’re looking for a loan against your, say $500,000 house, and you tell the bank you think your house is worth $900,00, do they take your word for it and mold the loan around your personal assessment? NOPE, they get an appraisal, and they loan the money based on the value that appraisal provides. So there’s that. Plus, none of the banks lost any money to trump, and the loans were paid. Just another witch hunt! Letticia James vowed to take trump down, and the judge is smug left wing sympathizer.

What was that about intellectual dishonesty?!?!

calling someone a bigot...and a trumper in the same sentence.

oh the irony...

...or maybe you were just being sarcastic.

"Go hunt instead of starting and perpetuating these stupid non-hunting threads."

are you referring to the ones you cant help but read and post on?

again the irony...or hypocrisy.

you are the quintessential leftist...accuse others of doing exactly what you do yourself.

how did he cheat the bank? did they not do their due diligence before granting a loan? did he not pay the loan back with interest?

how did he cheat the state? does the state not have tax assessors that are paid to perform valuations on property? ive owned many properties over the years and never once did the taxing authorities ask me what i thought my property was worth when it came time to assess taxes.

do you really believe the crap you post...or are you just being sarcastic?

keep flopping dude...

No I called you a bigot and a Trumper. Being a Trumper and bigot are not mutually inclusive. And it was not sarcasm.

"are you referring to the ones you cant help but read and post on?

again the irony...or hypocrisy.

you are the quintessential leftist...accuse others of doing exactly what you do yourself."

Hmmm...I didn't start this thread or any non-hunting thread that I can remember besides 1 in the decades I've been on Bowsite. How many have you started? I've posted on this thread like 12 times to your 24. You are right...oh the irony.

Try again Ricky.

Go hunt. I'm out.

The article outlines the idiocy, unintended consequences and total failure of the Dem Green initiative policy. The hacks behind this policy are a total joke. Many of their initiatives have gone down in flames after throwing $billions at them. They fail to address the 6,000 essential byproducts of oil we use every day….so what, we are supposed to drive on, gravel freeways vs asphalt? The article has many hyperlinks to factual sources.

Excerpts; During the Obama Administration, Solyndra went under despite a $535 million government-guaranteed loan, none of which was paid back. Forbes, citing OpenTheBooks.com, noted that taxpayers were left holding the notes for $400 million given to Abound Solar, $280 million wasted by CaliSolar, $193 million doled out to Fisker Automotive (with another $336 million canceled), and $132 million to A123 Systems (a failed battery maker).

Undaunted, the Biden Administration’s $2.3 trillion “jobs” package was rife with more subsidies for technologies that by their own admission are unsustainable. Yet despite all the free money, Ford, General Motors, and many other automakers are backing away from multibillion-dollar investments in new EV factories as new EV sales have slowed despite increased rebates.

Ford in March projected a loss of $3 billion on electric vehicles in 2023, offsetting profits of as much as $14 billion from its other divisions. Ford also admitted losses of $900 million in 2021 and $2.1 billion in 2022 in its EV division.

Biden’s reliance on huge subsidies to underwrite the “Green Revolution” has brought soaring inflation to the U.S. that is taking away purchasing power faster than it can increase subsidies and Mafia-style “incentives” (you will buy what we want you to buy, or else!).

The green war on fossil fuels, as fleshed out in the “Net Zero” campaign, is perhaps history’s greatest example of philosophical fraud.

“To dream the impossible dream” and turn it into reality would mean sacrificing an estimated 6,000 useful products that rely on byproducts from crude oil refineries – products that range from asphalt for highways to fertilizers, cosmetics, synthetic rubber, medicines and medical devices, cleaning products, plastics, so many more. The 3 billion who live without the benefits fossil fuels have provided are also the poorest, sickest, and most vulnerable humans on the planet. ——————

Thats it….if the voters here haven’t figured it out that the Dem party is not the same party of 30 years ago. It has been corrupted by the Soros sponsored special interests that combined are driving us down the tubes…and someReps are letting them do it.

God bless America…lets hope our voter base sees the light.

you do realize that calling me...or anyone else a "trumper"...is by definition bigoted...right? you say bigoted things...while calling others bigots. thats the hypocritical and ironic part..."sherlock"

"Hmmm...I didn't start this thread or any non-hunting thread that I can remember besides 1 in the decades I've been on Bowsite. How many have you started? I've posted on this thread like 12 times to your 24. You are right...oh the irony.

where is the "irony" in that..."sherlock?"

did i ever say i didnt start any non hunting related threads...or that they dont interest me...or that i havent posted regularly on them? quite the contrary actually. i read and post on the topics that interest me... for as long and as often as they still interest me...and i completely ignore the ones that dont. nothing ironic about that.

isnt it about time you tuck your tail...mumble something about beating a dead horse...and slither back under your rock for a while...or are you just going to keep flailing? lol

For the last time dead horse, I'm perfectly comfortable being a bigot against bigots.

You're so right I really have an issue with just strolling by people who post BS like you and Beendare. I should just stop arguing with right wing nuts who carry water for an x-president bent on destroying the constitution (you know the thing I voted for in 2020). Thank you. Consider us even for the helpful advice I provided to you above...you know the blindness thing. God can see you.

"how did he cheat the bank? did they not do their due diligence before granting a loan? did he not pay the loan back with interest?

how did he cheat the state? does the state not have tax assessors that are paid to perform valuations on property? ive owned many properties over the years and never once did the taxing authorities ask me what i thought my property was worth when it came time to assess taxes."

...opting instead for "tranny porn" masturbation humor.

i do find it rather ironic that the guy who calls others bigots...would resort to "tranny" jokes in an attempt to disparage someone else.

again..."you are the quintessential leftist...accuse others of doing exactly what you do yourself."

Facts are detrimental to the democrat agenda. This is nothing new!

>;-)

So because Trump lied on his financial statements and didn't default what's the harm. That's your point. Why don't you try robbing a bank then the following year take it back. I'm sure they will say no harm no foul. Or how about this one...you drink and drive home from the bar and get pulled over in front of your house. You didn't kill anyone so what's the harm. No harm no foul right? What a dumb ass question. Because you commit a crime or defraud someone and get away with it doesn't make it Ok.

What's the next excuse Ricky? They all do it so it's ok?

But personally screw all that anyway. Trump was found guilty of defrauding the bank's. He can appeal the decision. Let the constitutional process play itself out in court. Oh I forgot that Trumpers are only for the constitution and the law when it works for them or their cult god.

You don't like my jokes...sue me snowflake.

regarding the banks...

"did they not do their due diligence before granting a loan?"

its been a while since i borrowed any money but every time i did...i had to provide actual proof of income and assets. has that changed? did the bank claim they were harmed in any way?

"does the state not have tax assessors that are paid to perform valuations on property?"

like i said...ive owned many properties over the years and never once did the taxing authorities ask me what i thought my property was worth when it came time to assess the taxable value.

is the tish james going to go after the tax assessor for dereliction of duty? after all...if what you are saying is true...did they not fail in their duties? wasnt it the assessor that screwed the taxpayers of ny?

furthermore...is every other real estate developer in ny held to the same standard as the one trump is being held to?

yes...trump has been found liable...not by a jury...but by a partisan judge. we'll see how long that ruling lasts.

"You don't like my jokes...sue me snowflake."

i couldnt care less about your humor. it is not a reflection on or a harm to me in any way. thats on you. what it does do is show how much of a bigot and hypocrite you are. to the transgender community, the word "tranny" is no different than what the word "faggot" is to the gay community or what the "n word" is to the black community.

wheres your "humanity"..."bigot?"

Sounds like negligence on the banks part. Deutsche Bank doesn’t have the cleanest record in town. I can’t help but wonder what they were trying to gain by “trusting trumps self evaluation”.

I know, it sounds silly right? After all, banks are 100% trustworthy and never have a reason to manipulate certain transactions that work in their favor.

If you buy a lemon from the car lot, is it their fault for selling you a lemon, or is it your fault for not doing your due diligence to ensure you’re getting a fair deal?

whether i care or not is irrelevant. im not the one accusing others of being a bigot and lacking humanity...and then turning around and saying bigoted things. those were ksflatlanders terms...not mine. i only bring them up to illustrate his glaring hypocrisy.

having said that actually i do care...to the extent that I would care about anyone suffering from any other mental disorder. you seem to have a strange definition of "anti-trans." my thoughts on the trans situation are not unlike yours...are you "anti-trans" also?

I *wish* you were simply bigoted on the subject, you probably would have gotten bored with it by now >;-)

in terms of affect on our society...i think its much more important than that...especially for women and girls.

Cuz…TRUMP!!!!

anyone with half a brain...or an ounce of honesty...knows the answer to that question.

letitia james is a perfect example of what stalin's henchman lavrentiy beria once said... “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime”

he already is...well at least his ideological progeny is.

The latest SpaceX failure wasn’t exactly a failure. It was simply another small step for man, on its way to becoming another giant leap for mankind. They’ll work out the bugs and eventually succeed with great strides.

Congress, on the other hand? They’ll still be hot mess when SpaceX is finally making regular commuter flights to Mars and back.

It appears that someone here is talking out of the wrong orifice...again. Dang, that water has to be getting heavier by the day.

speaking of the "wrong orifice" are you really comparing what trump is accused of...with literally no victim... with price gouging on disinfectant during a pandemic?

with a reach like that, you make gumby look like a freaking t-rex.

oh...and by the way...the case you linked was dismissed in its entirety...

" On September 22, The New York Supreme Court in Manhattan dismissed in its entirety price gouging claims brought by the office of Letitia James, the New York State Attorney General, against Quality King Distributors, Inc. and its CEO, Glenn Nussdorf. The court absolved Glenn Nussdorf and Quality King of any wrongdoing, concluding that the parties did not violate the price gouging statute. Ruling from the bench, Judge Rakower stated "I do not find Quality King unconscionably raised its prices." Moreover, the court found that the Attorney General had not provided any evidence to support its allegation that Glenn Nussdorf had violated the price gouging statute."

i suspect that is exactly what is eventually going to happen with her case against trump. but by that time...hopefully for tish anyway...it will have achieved its goal.

"orifice"...insert head.

Hmmm, I thought we're talking about other cases brought under 63(12). I guess when you scapegoat your personal fix-it attorney and they testify under oath in congress...AGs actually listen.

You carry too much water you might drown...Trumper.

Wrong again Ricky

oh...and here i thought you were talking about the case you chose to highlight in your attached link. you know...the one that was nowhere close the trump case...and dismissed in its entirety. i guess thats the one you thought would really make your point.

if anything...you successfully highlighted tishs propensity to bring cases that will eventually be dismissed.

nice work ...lol

Happy thanks giving to you and yours. Remember no politics at the dinner table.

same to you and yours...but what fun would that be?

besides...thats one of the things we are thankful for...the freedom to discuss anything we choose...including politics...even (especially) if everyone doesnt agree.

if we ever lose that...were screwed.