Ohio buck, anyone have details?
Contributors to this thread:Whitetail Deer
From: Pat Lefemine
17-Nov-23
Just got this from Dan Everson. Not sure if it’s a xbow or bow kill. Ridiculous!
From: fuzzy
17-Nov-23
"Needed another year"
From: deerhunter72
17-Nov-23
Holy moly!! We need details on that.
From: Medicinemann
17-Nov-23
He was helping some Amish guys retrieve a coon dog that had run onto a neighbors property. Apparently the neighbor's ebike spooked the buck and it ran past him at 10 yards...... :)
From: greg simon
17-Nov-23
What a beast!!! Unfortunately B&C rules will kill him on that left G2/G3 with a common base.
From: HUNT MAN
17-Nov-23
I heard it had 50 inches of mass with 32 inch main beams and scores 206 3/8.
From: Shug
17-Nov-23
Cody Robbins who? Also Greg you’re incorrect if it is indeed a common base it would score as a 5x5
From: Dale06
17-Nov-23
I don’t know or care about B&C or P&Y rules, but that’s a stud, whether the tines come from the same base or not.
From: JTreeman
17-Nov-23
Classy hero pics too!
—Jim
From: LBshooter
17-Nov-23
Always amazes me how antlers can grow so large in such a short time. You probably could have watched his antlers grow while he fed in August lol. Anyone know if it was a trad kill or compound? Anyone have a guess how much that rack is worth if it's a record?
From: sitO
17-Nov-23
I heard it was shot by a tiny ninja
From: Michael
17-Nov-23
Wow what a buck. Congrats to the hunter
From: 4nolz@work
17-Nov-23
Yeah I would have passed because of the B&C deductions :) BTW nets are for fish give me the gross!
From: Shug
17-Nov-23
Dbl
From: Fuzz
17-Nov-23
Ears are droopy... definitely fake lol!
From: buckeye
17-Nov-23
Dang, that's rediculous.
From: Robear
17-Nov-23
Clinton County, near Dayton is what I’m hearing.
From: njbuck
17-Nov-23
buck of many many lifetimes!
From: Old Reb
17-Nov-23
Also heard Clinton County. Also heard recreational land and hunting lease values just tripled in Clinton County. Lol
From: buckeye
17-Nov-23
I grew up in Warren county, which borders Clinton. I can't remember ever seeing anything remotely close to a buck that size . Incredible.
From: Zbone
17-Nov-23
Zbone's Link
Link provided indicates Clinton County but no details if bow or xgun, although link has good pix:
https://theohiooutdoors.com/threads/clinton-county-giant.33665/page-2#post-960748
From: Robear
17-Nov-23
Mike Rex certainly knows his stuff and is very respected in the Ohio deer hunting and scoring world. Thanks for sharing the link.
From: drycreek
17-Nov-23
Pat, are you sure the Amish guys didn’t kill that on your farm ? Helluva buck !
From: Robear
17-Nov-23
For those who don’t know Rex is referring to the Johnny King Buck who looked like would beat Milo Hansons buck for the world record typical. The panel scoring at BC determined it was a non typ because of two points share a common base.
From: t-roy
17-Nov-23
Too bad that left side g2 will most likely be a common base point. Not much I’d like to see more, than somebody to knock Milo Hanson out of the top spot, for multiple reasons.
From: Zbone
17-Nov-23
Yeah, some saying if not for common base G2/G3 could have possibly been new world record typical...
From: deerhunter72
17-Nov-23
What a gorgeous buck! I’m sure it will cause some debate.
From: molsonarcher
17-Nov-23
Absolute beast. It will be scored as a 5x4. The g2/3 on the left is most likely going to be 1 typical and 1 non typical point if following B&C rules.
From: Shug
17-Nov-23
A common base point does not subtract from score…If it’s a true common base it’s essentially scored as two different points like the other side … The problem could possibly be that a point doesn’t originate from the top and outside edge of the main beam … that’s what stipulates a regular point
From: molsonarcher
17-Nov-23
Shug, totally true. Pics arent the best to judge it, but looking at the g2/3 in the photo, it appears to have enough mass/flaring at the bases to make the classic figure 8 for common base determination disappear part way down.
From: BOHNTR
17-Nov-23
If it has a figure 8 base AND both points originate from the top/outside edge of the beam…..it will be a typical 5x5.
From: BOHNTR
17-Nov-23
gorgeous buck!
From: Charlie Rehor
17-Nov-23
What’s the call?
From: Sean D.
17-Nov-23
From what ive read, it has 29" of deductions so taking the split tine and the other g2 difference off the 235 gross you get a 206" net. Not sure if that is the correct way but thats what I read.
From: Sean D.
17-Nov-23
This one was also killed in Clinton Co. Supposedly both hunters know each other and both bucks were killed in same area. Not sure on how true that is though.
From: BOHNTR
17-Nov-23
“What’s the call?”
Absolutely no way to make that call based on that photo alone.
From: midwest
17-Nov-23
Incredible buck! Probably killed over bait with a crossbow. ;-)
From: Zbone
17-Nov-23
Clinton County borders Greene County where the Beatty Buck was killed....
From: Straight Shooter
17-Nov-23
Zbone- Most of the pictures taken that contain a trophy but no weapon, 95% of those are gun or Xbow kills. Most compound or traditional guys are proud to have their bow visible in the picture. Just my guess…
From: Zbone
17-Nov-23
Will go along with that, kinda assumed the same thing probably a xgun, but if it was killed with a vertical bow, Mel Johnson's Buck's reign may be in jeopardy...
From: Bou'bound
17-Nov-23
Is that the deliverance guy
From: Pat Lefemine
17-Nov-23
Bou, that’s funny!
From: Straight Shooter
17-Nov-23
No denying the buck is a stud!
From: Huntcell
17-Nov-23
I hope the call is one is a normal tine snd the other is abnormal (non-typical) point because they disallowed a Mn buck years back that would have been a top spot contender back in the day, that had similar construction, and that one’s fork wasn't as high off the main beam as this one. But depends on the boards leaning these days.
From: Shug
18-Nov-23
Does not appear to be a common base
From: BOHNTR
18-Nov-23
Yup.
From: goyt
18-Nov-23
It is great to see this size of buck being taken and especially in Ohio. It is nice to know that there are some out there.
From: Straight Shooter
18-Nov-23
No denying the buck is a stud!
From: Zbone
18-Nov-23
Younz remember the Wayne Zaft buck and then the Johnny King buck about 20 years ago and now this one's G2/G3 all look about the same configuration to me in photos... Panel judges considered one of the points abnormal common base, probably gonna happen with this buck...
Shug - You have anymore pix or info like hunter's name and/or weapon, internet seems kinda quiet about it...
From: Iowa booner hunter
18-Nov-23
Take a look at the Van Lith buck from Minnesota. Pope and Young scored both as typical points
From: Boris
19-Nov-23
Same thing with the Zaft buck, True?
From: Boris
19-Nov-23
Same thing with the Zaft buck, True?
From: Shug
19-Nov-23
Incorrect Boris… and IBC The difference is the origination of the point and weather or not the outside edge is flush with the outside edge of the main beam
From: Yttails
19-Nov-23
Killed with a crossbow.
From: Zbone
20-Nov-23
"Killed with a crossbow"
Yttails - Can you confirm that?
From: Yttails
20-Nov-23
From: Yttails
20-Nov-23
Score sheet.
Score sheet.
From: Yttails
20-Nov-23
I’m not familiar with Buckmasters, or how they determine normal points but the 3rd point on left side was measured as a normal point.
From: Zbone
20-Nov-23
Thanks for the info Yttails...
Yeah, me too don't know Buckmasters but see no inside spread, and although this one is not, see they even have a category for "High Fence"....
Would like to see Mike Rex's score sheet, as Robear said, he's a reputable scorer and officer with BBBC which uses the B&C system... In the post he quoted - "By King buck standards..it's nontyp"... Wonder how he scored the G2/G3? We know now it won't be panel judged by P&Y but will B&C panel judge it?
If killed on Nov 10th, then after drying period will be interesting to see if Mr. Alexander will have it officially B&C scored and which way will the scorer goes with the G2/G3?
BTY, isn't it ironic some xgunners think they hunt with a bow, yet when kill a big one they seem omit their xbow from the pix...8^)
From: Michael
20-Nov-23
Zbone, Inside spread is item 4. It is in the final score of 244 6/8 as well.
From: Pat Lefemine
20-Nov-23
“ BTY, isn't it ironic some xgunners think they hunt with a bow, yet when kill a big one they seem omit their xbow from the pix...8^)”
Yup. You will never see a traditional bow killed animal without the bow in the photo. Never!! Perhaps because xbows are so hideous, or they’re ashamed they didn’t kill it with a real bow. In his defense, I don’t think this guy has any understanding of taking a proper hero photo.
From: Ambush
20-Nov-23
If I couldn't be positive in the field that the G3 was a normal point, I wouldn't shoot it.
Hahaha. Just wanted to say that before Bou'bound did.
From: Zbone
20-Nov-23
Michael - Oh, I see now at bottom of sheet, 217-4/8 + 27-2/8 = 244-6/8... My bad, thanks for the correction...
From: Indiana_GSP
20-Nov-23
From: Indiana_GSP
20-Nov-23
To all the “hunters” on here that kill bucks over and around corn piles, why are they never in your pics? Asking for a friend
From: Highlife
20-Nov-23
From a friend " don't want the controversy and hysterics that come with it"
From: Pat Lefemine
20-Nov-23
For the same reason I don’t have acorns in the hero pic. But if I kill one over this field tonight I’ll definitely include it in the pic, along with my bow.
From: Indiana_GSP
20-Nov-23
Or the arrow sticking out from another bad shot?
From: Bou'bound
20-Nov-23
…boom. Boom. Booom. ….. and another thread bites the dust
From: Pat Lefemine
20-Nov-23
Oh Bob, you can surely do better than that. ;-)
From: Zbone
20-Nov-23
Bou'bound - Pat has it under control...8^)))
Pat - Are you shooting feathers out of the compound or are they TAC Driver vanes? I set up a ILF recurve this year with an elevated rest and bought some some of those vanes a week or so ago to try but haven't got around to assembling them yet...
From: APauls
20-Nov-23
Why does a guy from Pennsylvania have a handle with the name Indiana, with no hero pics at all
From: sticksender
21-Nov-23
There's a town in PA called Indiana, boyhood home of Jimmy Stewart, and more recently, I'd assume.... Bob Plish.
From: Cazador
28-Nov-23
Just saw on my YouTube feed, average Joe, crossbow, not even his, borrowed it. Didn’t kill it over corn.
Another example of a guy just out there no technique, plan, and he killed a crusher. Massive!
From: Thornton
28-Nov-23
I wonder how many other guys were hunting these two bucks? If those things were in Kansas, there'd be at least half a dozen guys that would know about them and doing everything in their power to kill one.
From: Zbone
28-Nov-23
Tried to watch the podcast but couldn't get through it, was not impressed, no humility... Then after banging on B&C and the Hanson Buck, had to turn it off...
From: Bou'bound
29-Nov-23
Where is the link to the YouTube feed?
Is that something that could be shared here or would that qualify as commercializing hunting and therefore we shouldn’t propagate the practice any further?
From: Zbone
29-Nov-23
Ask and you shall receive...
From: Groundhunter
29-Nov-23
NAW has their article on line, of his story.
