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New Matthew’s Lift
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Contributors to this thread:
Quack 19-Dec-23
Ambush 19-Dec-23
WV Mountaineer 19-Dec-23
KSflatlander 19-Dec-23
Ambush 19-Dec-23
Pole Mtn 19-Dec-23
carcus 20-Dec-23
PECO2 20-Dec-23
Bowfreak 20-Dec-23
Bowboy 20-Dec-23
Ambush 20-Dec-23
Ambush 20-Dec-23
SBH 20-Dec-23
Quack 21-Dec-23
Gus 21-Dec-23
EmptyFreezer 21-Dec-23
sundowner 15-Jan-24
4406v 15-Jan-24
Will 20-Jan-24
jconman 20-Jan-24
Dale06 20-Jan-24
12yards 20-Jan-24
PECO2 21-Jan-24
midwest 21-Jan-24
Shaft2Long 21-Jan-24
PECO2 21-Jan-24
Quack 04-Feb-24
Dale06 04-Feb-24
12yards 05-Feb-24
nchunter 05-Feb-24
Kingntuff 08-Feb-24
From: Quack
19-Dec-23
What’s the thoughts on the new Lift? For those of you that have shot it.

From: Ambush
19-Dec-23
I have one on order, but haven’t shot one yet

19-Dec-23
I have yet to shoot one. But, the praises the solid back wall and actual correct draw length talk, I’ve already decided to shoot one. As soon as my local dealer has one.

If it’s what these two reviews say it is, plus it’s other attributes, I’m going to buy one. Honestly, my only reservation is the bolt on quiver Mathews offers. It’s expensive. And, I’m not sure it’s for me. But, lord willing I’m going to find out.

I’d better buy one while I can still see good enough to allow that when lightings right. lol.

From: KSflatlander
19-Dec-23
WV- don't get the bolt on quiver. Get the low-pro. Absolutely firm and quiet and easily detachable. Perfect for taking off in the stand or in the case. But it is expensive just like all the bridgelock attachments.

From: Ambush
19-Dec-23
I ordered the lo-pro bolt on. I have both types on other bows. But with it mounted so close to the bow, I don't see a need to remove the quiver for the soft case. And I always shoot with the quiver on.

From: Pole Mtn
19-Dec-23
Solid back wall, smooth draw. I got the bolt on quiver, simple and works well for me. Shooting it convinced me to replace my Z7 with it.

From: carcus
20-Dec-23
I hated my vxr 31.5's back wall, or non existent back wall, hopefully this new cam is better. It was a heavy pull as well, I had a revoltx at the same time both identical weights, I have a bow scale and my buddy could easily pull the bowtech but couldn't pull the mathews, that said the mathews was 20fps faster

From: PECO2
20-Dec-23
Ambush, are you buying this new bow, without even having shot one yet? What's your thought process on that?

From: Bowfreak
20-Dec-23
I can't even count how many bows I have bought sight unseen. Its called being a lefty. Shooting left handed that is.....

From: Bowboy
20-Dec-23
Yep, Mark left handers have it bad and good. The bad is hardly any bow companies have them available to shoot on release day. The good is they sit on the rack and collect dust and we’ll usually get a new bow at a discount. Our Hoyt area representative is a lefty so he always has a few to try.

From: Ambush
20-Dec-23
PECO, I buy a new bow about every seven years. I shot the new bows when they come out and I shoot buddy's new bows as they get them. I unashamedly admit to being a Mathews fan based on my experience with the bows I own. From a a lot of reviews it would seem that any reservations that I have with the previous few bows have been answered. I'm also of the mind that almost any quality bow that avoids extremes can be shot as well the shooter is capable of. I think most us us can adapt easily and the bow will feel natural in short order.

From: Ambush
20-Dec-23
Pat, that is something I'd not heard yet. I've been shooting 65# ( Helium solo cam) for the past seven years and have no trouble at all. I can shoot my buddies 70# V3 easy enough but not for long sessions. Wondering now if I should drop to 60#? I guess I can always order 60# mods.

From: SBH
20-Dec-23
I haven’t shot a new bow in 11 years. I’m in the market this year. WOW. I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them. Shot the new Hoyt’s, Matthew’s and Prime. I can’t tell the difference to be honest. They’re all really nice, dead in the hands and easy to hold on target. I wish I would have had those three bows set up, ready to go and been blindfolded and see which one I preferred.

From: Quack
21-Dec-23
I ordered my son the 33 inch Lift. Really don’t know when it will get in but I was just curious on everyone’s experience. He turned 14 Monday. Ordered it when they first come out. He’s a great shot and is getting into the tournament stuff and loves to bowhunt. Shoots NASP at school. He’s really excited about it. I didn’t want to go flagship bow cause the bow and setting it up is so expensive but heck only here one time and he puts it all into it I figured mite as well put him with the best equipment I could get. He’s been shooting a mission Hammr for 3-4 years now. It’s at 51lbs at 26 inches. Hope it all goes well and it comes in soon

From: Gus
21-Dec-23
I shot it set at 70 lbs. It shoots really well. It didn't feel like 70 to me. Very smooth and very little hand shock. Quiet. I liked it. The let off happens right at the last part of pulling it back. The break point in let off is sharper than the Phase 4 but I think thats where they get the extra speed. I really liked it. I ordered one for my son because he out grew his bow.

From: EmptyFreezer
21-Dec-23
Got mine a few weeks ago. Set at 65#, 28" draw. I shoot a 500 grain 4mm Victory arrow. I love this bow. I was shootin an RX7 and it just never felt right but an amazing bow. i shoot this bow with confidence which for me is everything. I hunt with some good shooters but this year they goin down :)

14-Jan-24
SBH, I'm with you. Current bow is 2013 prime Defy, amazing old bow; light, durable, accurate, and 264fps with 525gr arrow at 28.5 in draw 73lbs.

I just sold my prime INLINE, just couldn't fall in love with it although a nice bow, probably better for lighter arrows.

Went into the bow shop the other day and shot several bows side by side over about 3 hour period. Prime RVX 32 & 34, Hoyt VTM31 and alpha X 30, Matthews Lift 29.5 and phase 4 .

All bows tested at 70lb, 29 in draw.

All very nice bows. Prime was crazy smooth, but it just felt slow. And they big time missed the backwall with this cable stop jobby. Sadly disappointed. 262 fps 525gr arrow.

Both Hoyt were simply great all around. The alpha X handled well but was louder than the vtm at the string stop. Might have chosen the vtm over the new alpha X. Same speed 265fps with 525gr arrow.

Every time I came back to the Matthews Lift, I was surprised by it's weight, noticeably lighter. The draw was not as "smooth", but it's not bad and there's a nice valley without creep. Backwall was the best of the group. Axel to Axel, it's angle is not too harsh, more like a 32-33 inch ATA, in my opinion. 276 fps with 525gr arrow.

Not an easy choice, great options. Went home with the Matthews Lift 29.5 , liking it a lot so far. It's even quieter when accessorized,

Dealer said orders placed now ship first week of June.

Happy hunt planning everyone.

From: sundowner
15-Jan-24
I can't understand why a bow costs $1400. Plus another +/- $700 in stuff to build it. I can afford it one, but it just eems like too much! And it's not just Matthews......they're all charging outrageous prices. The Lift is nice, sure. A friend got one for his son and asked me to build/tune it, which I did. Great bow......just too expensive.

Not knocking anyone who has, or is planning to purchase a Lift or any of these expensive new bows. Go for it. Just stating my opinion.

From: 4406v
15-Jan-24
I think I bought my Z-7 in 2010 ? Out the door "loaded" it was $1,200 without arrows. I just killed my 23rd deer with it this year. It still does everything you could ask for , it's incredibly accurate , smooth , and quiet. Why would I waste money on a new bow that probably won't do it any better?? Definitely not $1,500 better

15-Jan-24
Agreed. Had not even been going to the shop to shoot new bows for 11yrs. Bought the INLINE as last year model sight unseen, which didn't work out. Basically I need a backup bow, complete rig that I can fully trust.

A big reason that I chose the Lift was that it was actually lighter and faster, a real upgrade that will push a 500gr arrow 300fps with 80lb mods. The other bows are nice, but performance is about the same as my old rig.

Personally I think the components are out of control. Lift was $1250, my 11yr old prime was $999. But, rests, stabilizer, sights, and quivers are 2-4x the price to deck out the bow as 11 yr ago.

You can easily spend $1000 in add ons. Not to mention the price of top quality arrows components, $300/doz without points/broadheads.

There's lots of great lightly used bow options at the shops I go to though for about 1/2 price

20-Jan-24
Just got my Lift 33 75# and it was probably the easiest bow I've setup! Tied on nock sets, d-loop and set my Hamskea Epslion rest to center shot. Took 4 clicks of hight after having it on my Elite Omnia and I had a perfect tear! Took me 3 shots for this to happen. Pretty pleased with this bow so far and the way it shoots. The price is right compared to getting an RX8.

From: Will
20-Jan-24
Couple good reviews from mfjj on them - sure look like really sweet bows:

From: jconman
20-Jan-24
yes i agree with you 4406v - i shoot a elite energy 35 from that same time and last 6 deer i shot hit the heart on all and like you i am sure the bow and set up feels very comfortable and anything else with me feels out of place-- i have shot some of the newer bows and they shoot great and usually find more forgiving-that said hard to put that much money into a bow that is going to make a great difference especially here in wisconsin where my shots are rarely more than 30 yards

From: Dale06
20-Jan-24
I was in local pro shop that sells a lot of Mathews, yesterday. The owner said if you want to order one with your choice of colors, think about a June delivery. He also said that modules to change draw weight etc were very scarce.

From: 12yards
20-Jan-24
I shot the Lift a couple days ago. It's a great bow. I shot it with 60# mods at 29" turned down to 50#s. It drew smoothly, held great, was quiet and vibration free. It also did not feel jumpy to me at full draw. I love the light weight of the bow. As a hang and hunt public land guy it would shed about half a pound for me. Problem is I shot my Elite Enkore next to it and it felt just as good. But if I were in the market, I'd be very happy with a Lift. What kills me is the price of accessories.

From: PECO2
21-Jan-24
So this new bow changes draw weight with cam mods instead of limbs?

From: midwest
21-Jan-24
All the Mathews bows of the last several years use mods for changing weight, draw length, and let off. When I got my VXR, I bounced around with several different mods to find what I liked best. I finally settled on 60#, 80% let off. Most all the mods bought and sold on AT.

From: Shaft2Long
21-Jan-24
I did the same as ambush, haven’t shot it but ordered a 33. From what I’m hearing I probably won’t shoot it until May or June.

My Vaportrail 8IX should be here Monday. Have a custom Black Gold going on it might even splurge for the ridiculously overpriced stabilizer.

From: PECO2
21-Jan-24
Guess I'm a little farther behind on the new bow technology than I thought.

From: Quack
04-Feb-24
Thanks guys. I hope his comes in soon.

From: Dale06
04-Feb-24
PECO, the cams set the draw weight range, meaning you can get a bow with cams 60-70 pounds and you can change the draw weight within that range via the limb bolts. But you can take that same bow and swap the cams for 50-60 pound cams, and change the draw weight in that range with the limb bolts. So I guess you can say bow draw weight (in a range) is cam specific, not limb specific. That’s how I understand it.

From: 12yards
05-Feb-24
What Dale06 says is true. But I don't think you need to change cams, just a mod on the cam to get lower or higher poundage (outside the 10 pound range). This makes it simple for bow owner and shop owner to fit a bow to themselves or customers. However, shops will have to literally carry thousands of mods for all the poundage/letoff/draw length combos that will be needed.

From: nchunter
05-Feb-24
I would love to get one but the entire setup cost is rediculous. My mq1 killed the biggest deer this year I have ever seen in the woods. It just plain shoots and is reliable.

From: Kingntuff
08-Feb-24
Chit bought a monster wake used very little. Mite be heavy and long ata, but super compairable to the lift to me.

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