The Fall of Minneapolis
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Nomad 22-Jan-24
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Nomad 22-Jan-24
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Chuckster 23-Jan-24
TMac 23-Jan-24
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From: Nomad
22-Jan-24

Nomad's Link
EVERYONE needs to see this! Please don't comment unless you've watched the whole thing, otherwise you have no opinion.

From: JDM
22-Jan-24
Sorry, I don't have 1 hour and 42 minutes to spend on this.

From: fuzzy
22-Jan-24
I apologize but could you give a little synopsis before I commit to watching an almost two hour video? Is it in any way related at archery, bowhunting, hunting in general or game management?

22-Jan-24
I watched it a month ago or so. I was born in Mpls, spent the first 10 years of my life there and live a little over an hour northeast of Mpls now so I had some interest in the story.

This video provides facts about the death of George Floyd that were withheld and suppressed by the media, courts, government officials, etc.

From: Bou'bound
22-Jan-24
Dude

You have to come up with something other than spend two hours staring at a screen because I asked you. If you want to get an audience you need to earn it.

If someone only watches 1 minute and twenty seven seconds are they allowed to comment on that section?

From: Nomad
22-Jan-24
What Cheesehead Mike said plus many more issues related to it.

JDM, That's the problem. No one wants to take the time to hear the truth.

Fuzzy, we know this is a bow hunting site, but if you haven't noticed it's also more than that at times. If your only interests in this world are things related to archery, bow hunting, hunting in general or game management then your free to scroll on by. By the way are your pants related to archery, bow hunting, hunting in general or game management? ;-)

From: x-man
22-Jan-24
This is worth the watch. It's feature film/documentary, not a homemade youtube video. The woman responsible is/was the main investigative reporter for the main Minneapolis TV station. Her husband is a LEO, which prompted her to do this so people could know the facts rather than the narrative. She does a good job of not inserting her own opinion.

This should be shown on every major network so everyone can see. Much like Sound of Freedom, this has been suppressed by mainstream media. I am as anti-conspiracy theory as they come. I watched this at the request of my LEO son, thinking it was going to be a waste of time. It was just the opposite. Everyone should see this, especially the left.

From: 70lbDraw
22-Jan-24
“This video provides facts about the death of George Floyd that were withheld and suppressed by the media, courts, government officials, etc.”

That’s funny. It seems as though the Democrats have also deleted 100’s of j6 video clips in an effort to hide the truth of what really happened. Not surprising. What is surprising is the way some of the people here continue to defend their bafoonery, without getting the full story.

From: Nomad
22-Jan-24
Bou'bound, start with 10 or 15 minutes of it & see if it interests you. Watch a little at a time, it doesn't have to be all at once. It's well worth the watch for those interested in the truth from people on the inside who lived it. It really will open your eyes.

Besides, why would you want to comment on something you haven't watched? Also, how many of you spend 3 to 4 hours each week (or more) watching football or other sports? I assure you this is much more poignant.

From: Bake
22-Jan-24
Nomad. I think JDM has a valid point here. It's not that no one wants to take the time. It's that a stranger posts a link on a website and says "Watch this" with zero explanation.

I don't know about others, but I don't click on ANY unknown link without an idea of what it will be. For all I know, you're posting a link to a porn site

Now if you'd said, for example "I think everyone should watch this, it's a video with a full explanation of ABC, from XYZ source and provides the full whatever."

Then, maybe I'd click

From: Nomad
22-Jan-24
x-man, not only was he a LEO, he was the head of the Minneapolis police union.

From: Nomad
22-Jan-24
Bake, my bad & I apologize for that. I thought everyone would have heard of this documentary by now. It's well worth the time to watch.

From: sundowner
22-Jan-24
Theis is the documented, unvarnished truth of the George Floyd riots and the coverup both during and after. Many of the rioters, arsonists and looters probably didn't even know why they were doing it other than just pure malicious hatred. They followed their "leaders", gangs and divisive muckrakers on television and social media.

"This should be shown on every major network so everyone can see." That will never happen. But I hope some entity will produce a similar truthful documentary on the January 6th, 2021 riot in Washington DC.

From: TonyBear
22-Jan-24
I will watch it, just curious does it include how poorly the media covered US Rep Thompson calling for "burning Hugo to the ground" just because Hugo, MN is where the head of the Police Union lived? I shoot a lot of 3-D archery at BESA and have hunted near Hugo.

In retrospect the best thing that could have happened in this situation was for the police to cuff and transport Mr. Floyd to the hospital where he would have likely died due to his health condition and all the drugs he had pumped himself up with. Instead, some poorly trained angry police officers tried to subdue him, while the witnesses watched him die as a result of the officer's action in addition to what he already had going on in his body..

From: Nomad
22-Jan-24
Thomson is in there. After watching you may change your opinion on the police officers.

From: x-man
22-Jan-24
"Instead, some poorly trained angry police officers tried to subdue him, while the witnesses watched him die as a result of the officer's action in addition to what he already had going on in his body.."

Obviously haven't watched it yet or would not have typed that.

From: sundowner
22-Jan-24
Lethal doses of fentanyl, meth, and other illegal drugs are what killed Floyd. Not Derek Chauvin's knee.

22-Jan-24
i watched it about a month ago...infuriating.

From: JohnMC
22-Jan-24
Best comments so far Fuzzy - " Is it in any way related at archery, bowhunting, hunting in general or game management?" He's got to be a top 10er for posting non bowhunting related stuff.

Then you got Bou' saying "Dude You have to come up with something other than spend two hours staring at a screen because I asked you. If you want to get an audience you need to earn it." When he easily spend two hours a day posting stuff not worth reading.

Good stuff!

From: Mint
22-Jan-24
Thanks for posting Nomad. I listened to them when they were on Megyn Kelly's show and wanted to definitely watch when it came out and then work got the better of me.

From: drycreek
22-Jan-24
I don’t think I need to watch the video to know the truth. George Floyd was a thug, his record stands for itself. He died being what he was. THE END.

From: Highlife
22-Jan-24

From: fuzzy
22-Jan-24
Hunting pants, of course! Lol

From: Groundhunter
22-Jan-24
I am retired LEO. It's a shithole

From: xtroutx
22-Jan-24
Nomad..."Please don't comment unless you've watched the whole thing, otherwise you have no opinion". Tonybear.... "Instead, some poorly trained angry police officers tried to subdue him, while the witnesses watched him die as a result of the officer's action in addition to what he already had going on in his body". Tonybear strike two. Nomad, thanks for the heads up, I didn't know this was out. Well worth the watch.

From: Nomad
22-Jan-24
drycreek & Highlife, there is far more to this than just George Floyd's thuggery. It's the depth of lies the government & media went to surrounding this & the resultant riots & looting, railroading the cops involved, and so much more. You'll be glad you watched this.

From: Highlife
22-Jan-24

From: KsRancher
22-Jan-24
Drycreek 100%

Nothing more than a thug. And a man in prison that shouldn't be. I watched the video. And not many will agree with. But I believe there should have been a pile of bodies. Business owners should have been stacking them up.

From: Mike B
22-Jan-24
Nomad..watched most of it, and in all honesty my conclusions are this:

Nothing will ever come of it. Floyd, and that entire circus, guilty as they are, are a part of history now, and that will be the end of it. Every state in the Union now has a gov't equally as corrupt as the Fed. gov't.; some states are worse. Local, state and the Fed. gov'ts, universities and schools have gone completely off the rails, assisted and encouraged by a corrupt media.

I fear that at some point Civil war will return to America. If it does not, the great country that used to be the Unites States of America will fade into history.

""If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." ~~ Samuel Adams, 1776

From: fuzzy
23-Jan-24
^Inspired words. Mr Adams was a gifted statesman, a genius intellect and a Patriot when that meant more than wearing a red and white baseball cap. Makes darn good beer too.

From: peter.p
23-Jan-24
You don't have to watch the whole thing if you don't want but I bet after 10mn you'll have learned enough to see how corrupt the system is. How this event was politicized by the liberal Dems. Floyd died of an overdose. Period. They interviewed multiple police officers all stating that the hold technique was not only taught but in the police handbook. Understand this man was a criminal with multiple offenses including breaking and entering and hold a gun to a pregnant woman. WTF? Now he's got a street named after him, a statue ECT. Cops put their lives on the line every time they put a uniform on. The cops weren't the criminals here

From: peter.p
23-Jan-24
You don't have to watch the whole thing if you don't want but I bet after 10mn you'll have learned enough to see how corrupt the system is. How this event was politicized by the liberal Dems. Floyd died of an overdose. Period. They interviewed multiple police officers all stating that the hold technique was not only taught but in the police handbook. Understand this man was a criminal with multiple offenses including breaking and entering and hold a gun to a pregnant woman. WTF? Now he's got a street named after him, a statue ECT. Cops put their lives on the line every time they put a uniform on. The cops weren't the criminals here

23-Jan-24

Altitude Sickness 's embedded Photo
Altitude Sickness 's embedded Photo
Shocker ! Cities run into the ground for 50 years. Inner city schools are a disaster. Many inner city school systems are full of corrupt bureaucrats that steal assets and could not care less about minorities education.

All the while painting Republicans with the racism brush. Sorry but people keep voting for this. They deserve to live in that squalid craphole.

Timex posted this in the comic section. But it’s appropriate here also.

From: peter.p
23-Jan-24
And how about the D bag mayor kneeling at a casket balling his eyes out over a criminal he's likely never met!! He should grow a sack and stand up for the men in uniforms that try and keep his city safe....defund the police? Absolute joke

23-Jan-24
aside from everything else...the thing that is most frustrating to me is the way the left is willing to knowingly sacrifice cops at the altar of a false racial narrative.

they did the same thing with kim potter in minneapolis...and they attempted to do it with darren wilson in ferguson mo.

mark my words...as we approach another election season...there will be another. its part of the leftist playbook. its what they do to get the aa vote back in line.

disgusting.

From: fuzzy
23-Jan-24
"Yap-yap"

From: Chuckster
23-Jan-24
Here's my opinion regarding the death of George Floyd: His was murdered by Officer Chauvin and prison is where he belongs. Two of the three other officers had under five shifts under their belts and the other was a nine-year veteran. I did not feel any of the other three deserved prison time as Officer Chauvin was the senior officer on scene and mostly contributed to George Floyds death.

Then I watched the entire link above.

Here is my opinion now:

The four officers need to be released and all evidence needs to be presented to the public. Floyd was already complaining he couldn't breathe long before a knee was placed on his back. He had a little bag of drugs on his tongue while speaking with the cops when he was pulled over. They showed another video one year prior to his death where he was a passenger in a vehicle and tried to swallow drugs when the cops walked up. He had multiple drugs in his system at the time of his death that no reasonable person could have known about. There was so much body cam footage that was not allowed into evidence at trial along with the Maximal Restraint Technique (MRT) procedure for restraining individuals in handcuffs. The police chief stood on the podium and said that MRT is not in their training manuals when every officer interviewed said they had all been trained on MRT. Derick Chauvins mom has his training manual with instructions on how to use MRT. The mayor kneeling down at George Floyds casket and balling like he just lost his wife of 20 years. What a frigging joke man. These four cops got rail roaded by the system and it really pisses me off what did and didn't happen with this incident. Thanks for posting this link. I watched the first half last night and finished it this morning. It is an excellent documentary that is well put together. The first 30 minutes is heavy with body cam footage. I think the autopsy and toxicology report for Floyd was just mind blowing how much shit he had in his system.

From: TMac
23-Jan-24
I watched it last night. Mob rule mentality trumped the justice system!

From: soccern23ny
23-Jan-24
Bahaha...

"The sound of freedom" is runnof the mill fap fodder for the right wing. I'll pass on the 2hr "documentary"

Mentions of George Floyd? Sure he was a less than an ideal situation, sure protests/riots were extreme....

But at the end of the day a cop kneeled on his back and neck for 9 minutes until he died

From: Chaz
23-Jan-24
We need to drain the swamp and close the borders.

From: Ace
23-Jan-24
Chuckster summed up what most people I know felt before and after watching this documentary. Personally I thought the media narrative smelled bad from the start, but I had NO IDEA the depth and breath of the lies and how many people were involved.

Watch it, don't watch it, but ask yourself why you (and the jury) wasn't allowed to see the body cam footage. Isn't that why they wear body cams?

I'd strongly suggest that you watch this, if you still feel that Floyd was a victim and Chauvin was a murdered afterwards then tell us why.

From: soccern23ny
23-Jan-24
*citizen not situation.

Idk why you can't edit posts anymore

From: Ace
23-Jan-24
Soccer, you might want to watch the doc before you make too much more of a fool of yourself.

23-Jan-24
This should be mandatory viewing before you’re allowed to vote Democrat again.

But instead let’s just keep pumping more money into the greasy politicians hands.

Argentina hit rock bottom with this socialist ideology And has figured this all out. And is now hopefully rebuilding again. I hope we don’t have decades more of this until our rock bottom.

From: Nomad
23-Jan-24

Nomad's Link
Meanwhile.........

From: Nomad
23-Jan-24
Timex?, Watch the documentary. It has nothing to do with your experiences. These were not attitudinal Leo. That's why I pleased asked that people watch it before they comment. Otherwise they look like complete fools like soccern23ny.

From: t-roy
23-Jan-24
“Idk why you can’t edit posts anymore”

Maybe it’s because you’re an F ing brain dead idiot, soccermommy…..total speculation on my part, though.

From: itshot
23-Jan-24
".... before you make too much more of a fool of yourself."

is more even possible?

From: itshot
23-Jan-24

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23-Jan-24
it’s been my experience that if you treat cops with respect and follow orders, they treat you with respect in return. never once have I had a negative experience with a cop or a co and I’ve had a number of interactions over the years.

get mouthy…get cute…or resist…and all bets are off…as they should be.

i suspect there is a direct correlation with peoples snarky smart a**attitude here and how their interactions are with law enforcement.

From: fuzzy
23-Jan-24
Timex I've had 90% positive interactions with LEOs, the negatives can wait til we have a beer or twelve in person. They were spectacular and rate highly on the dumbass prick with a badge scale. Yes Floyd, Brown, and any number of thugs have been selected as poster boys for a real problem that exists, but while they don't "fit" the truth, they fit the narrative. The truth is more complex and less bounded by skin tone. And RCG/ puppy, "yap yap woof"

23-Jan-24
”I could write on & on.”

I have no doubt you could. if youve had that many bad experiences with law enforcement, you just might be the common denominator.

something to think about.

From: Highlife
23-Jan-24

From: Highlife
23-Jan-24
Yip yip

From: fuzzy
23-Jan-24
Aroooo!!!! Woof!

23-Jan-24

Altitude Sickness 's embedded Photo
Altitude Sickness 's embedded Photo

23-Jan-24
that all sounds great but apparently there is a breakdown somewhere…by your own admission.

Sometimes you have to realize who has the power and who doesn’t and act accordingly. That’s what mature people do.

If the leo is a jerk and you act like a jerk back…that might feel good but you are going to end up on the bad end of that equation.

From: HDE
23-Jan-24
"...it’s been my experience that if you treat cops with respect and follow orders, they treat you with respect in return."

Ricky - not when it comes to White Sands Missile Range on a NM oryx hunt and range security. Those guys are pricks just because...

From: fuzzy
24-Jan-24
There's always that one pup in the litter who's ready to duck head tuck tail and roll over . That dog won't hunt.

From: fuzzy
24-Jan-24
Which brings up the question of why a pup who won't hunt is even sniffing around a hunting website. Odd.

24-Jan-24
”.......that's clearly the difference between you & me....... Hope you realize you just told everyone on bowsight what a """PUSSY""" You are.”

you bet, I've had my head busted by the police,,,,,,not saying I'm proud of it …”

yes…based on your posts on the subject…there is clearly a difference between us. it is no wonder youve had so many negative encounters with law enforcement. you seem to be a magnet for them…and likely always will be.

my father taught me a few things too. one of them being “you can slide a lot farther on molasses than you can on sandpaper.”

if and when I have an encounter with law enforcement…ill employ the molasses technique and youre welcome to have your face ground in the sandpaper.

no skin off my nose (pun intended)…

24-Jan-24
as to fuzzy…based on his childish posts on nearly every thread…hes probably sport for law enforcement. lol

From: TGbow
24-Jan-24
The sound of freedom is a good movie. It's no secret human trafficking exist. Only an ignorant person would deny that.

As far as George Floyd goes, if he would have complied it may have been a different story. He was a criminal no doubt...but the question is , did he deserve to die? The main stream media has an agenda and that's been going on for years. They're really good at withholding all the facts..had George Floyd been of a different race we probably wouldn't be having this discussion...that's just the way things are. All life has value...even drug addicts. The VAST majority of law enforcement are just folks trying to do their job, but there are some that shouldn't be wearing a badge.

From: fuzzy
24-Jan-24
Yes puppy. You know my full real name, my place of residence and my age, so check my criminal history. You may be surprised.

From: fuzzy
24-Jan-24
By the way I know yours too. Took a bit more digging since you're a bit secretive as most tail-tuck pups are.

24-Jan-24
”All life has value...even drug addicts.”

without a doubt…however…even drug addicts have to be responsible for their own actions. black…white…purple…or rainbow…if floyd didn’t have a lethal level of fentanyl in his system…and/or did resist for an extended period of time…he would have just been carted off to jail…just like the numerous times before.

From: TGbow
24-Jan-24
Every time the media reports on "anything" I take it with a grain of salt...be it leftist news or right wing

24-Jan-24
my criminal history is easy fuzzy…zero…zip…nada.

i did get pulled over one time for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign in my 20s…and once for doing 45 in a 35 but even then i only got warnings.

molasses fuzzy…molasses. lol

From: KsRancher
24-Jan-24
Ricky x2

If he wasn't an addict and didn't resist he would have just been in jail. And probably out in no time. All choices he made.

I don't know Timex. So hate to judge him. But with that many bad interactions with law enforcement you would have wonder. Like that saying. "You meet an asshole in the morning he is an asshole". "You meet an asshole at noon, he might be an asshole". "You meet an asshole in the afternoon you are the asshole"

From: Chuckster
24-Jan-24
Timex, I think Ricky has summarized you pretty well and calling him a pussy is way out of line. You must be a real piece of work to be around.

"Come at me with politeness & receive politeness in return....Come at me with an attitude, you'll receive attitude in return..."

Why does everyone always have to initiate the kindness and respect towards you first? Why can't you extend the olive branch first? You need to lay off the tough guy schtick. Lifes' too short to act like a fuckin asshole all the time. I do enjoy your contributions to this site. You bring a different perspective and make me think outside the box.

24-Jan-24
George Floyd is dead because he was a POS, period. If he were a decent human being, maybe at work trying to be a productive citizen he would still be alive. When you have that many negative interactions with LEO, you may want to take a look in the mirror...you are the problem.

From: fuzzy
24-Jan-24
Woof woof! Nice doggy!

From: bluedog
24-Jan-24
"Don't follow leaders.... Watch the parking meters"

From: tobywon
24-Jan-24
This is getting very entertaining!!

24-Jan-24
” I have no filter…”

ding…ding…ding…we have a winner!!!

…hence the reason you have so many negative interactions with law enforcement.

this would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. lol

From: TonyBear
24-Jan-24
A wise old man told me once "Not everyone is an ahole (insert your slang here) but it seems every ahole ( or similar slang as above) hunts."

In 50 years of bowhunting I have found that saying to be true.

From: KsRancher
24-Jan-24
Ricky nailed it

From: Jaquomo
24-Jan-24
"whatever,,,,never have been & never will be nobody's ...sheep..."

Said 1,230,100 people currently in prison in the U.S.

I'm testifying next week in a contempt trial against two people who can't seem to grasp that laws are in place for a reason, and just because we don't like how a judge rules doesn't mean there aren't consequences.

24-Jan-24
I have numerous 3am friends…but I’m not sure what that has to do with your propensity for getting sideways with the law…unless your 3am friends are primarily there for bail.

From: RK
24-Jan-24
Same as a 2am 4am 5am Friend. Just depends on which one is used in your area. Hispanics here use 4am amigo gringos 2am

From: Catscratch
24-Jan-24
I think what Timex is saying is that he is perfectly ok with the consequences brought by his actions. No regrets for him to stand up for himself.

From: bluedog
24-Jan-24
Fk it...it's only a movie

24-Jan-24
”I think what Timex is saying is that he is perfectly ok with the consequences brought by his actions.”

that’s cool…and all other people are saying is that life is infinitely easier if you choose the molasses over the sandpaper…and doing so certainly doesn’t make one a ”pussy.”

like jacuomo said…prisons (as well as cemeteries) are full of people who think they get extra points for being “nobody’s sheep.”

From: Nomad
24-Jan-24
bluedog, it's not a movie. It's a documentary. Big difference! Your from Minnesota...did you watch it?

From: bluedog
24-Jan-24
Nomad , I wasn't referring to Floyd documentary as "only a movie" was referring to the molasses and sand paper diversion. Life its own self.

On topic, naa didn't watch it. Floyd was a POS... the cop was out of the lines to the max however. Floyd maybe needed killing, no loss. Personally these days I'm happy simply avoiding the big bad city except for a ball game now and then.

Take care pard

From: KsRancher
24-Jan-24
Timex. I can respect that. I moved out at 16. First kid at 20. Still happily married to that woman almost 18yrs and have 4 kids. I have no problems with your bad interactions with law enforcement. As long as you know you're the common denominator in the situations and are fine with. I am a hard head SOB on some things. And don't mind riding that ship all the way to the bottom to not waiver off of what I believe

From: Nomad
24-Jan-24
bluedog, you really are short changing yourself by not watching it. Just your comment about the cops shows how ignorant your understanding of what really happened is. To be fair, I initially thought that too after seeing only the video taken by the bystander. There is so much more to it. You were always one that I considered fair & informed in the past. Please do yourself the favor of becoming informed on this.

From: bluedog
24-Jan-24
Is it ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care

From: Boreal
24-Jan-24
That's pretty funny Bluedog!

From: bluedog
24-Jan-24
Boreal... old Jimmy Buffett line I stole

From: Nomad
24-Jan-24
bluedog, reckon it don't matter.

From: bluedog
24-Jan-24
Nope, take care

From: Catscratch
24-Jan-24
Time and time and time and time again the media has tried to dupe us. This is just another glowing example. Crazy to not be skeptical of everything they say.

24-Jan-24
weve all had rough spots in our life timex. my father passed away before i even reached adulthood. even so he raised his five children to respect authority...even if we dont always agree with it. there is a time and a place to buck authority...and it is seldom...if ever...at the time of an engagement with a cop. that is never going to work out in your favor. mature adults realize that...others go to jail...the hospital...or the cemetary.

that doesnt make me a "pussy" (your words not mine), that makes me a realist.

glad you watched the rest of the documentary. now you know why some of us werent willing to pile on law enforcement. what was done to them was disgusting. they were sacrificial lambs for race hustlers.

From: csalem
24-Jan-24
Timex. You were damn lucky that none of the times yiu stood up for yourself against LEO were Felonies. Would have been a shame not to have been able to build and shoot those awesome rifles you have put together

24-Jan-24
”You clearly can't understand this,,,,& honestly I feel sorry for you.”

and you clearly confuse not agreeing with not understanding.

you do you bro…

i see you added the following....

"Your gonna hang your head down in shame while another man verbally abuses you , just to avoid confrontation,,,,,"

you just cant help yourself can you?

ive never held my head in shame to anyone. i just know when a confrontation will be to my benefit and when it wont.

as to the week you were "treated good" and "respected" in jail...the fact of the matter is...you were still in jail.

like i said...you do you.

From: 12yards
24-Jan-24
To be honest the documentary just validated what I already felt happened. They did what they had to do to the cops to save as much of the city from being burned down as they could. Can't comment on whether the cops were good or bad. But feel they were definitely sacrificed at the altar of appeasing the mob. Didn't help Ellison was the new AG.

From: Copperman
24-Jan-24
it's absolutely sickening

From: bluedog
24-Jan-24

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bluedog's embedded Photo
Sandpaper always made me feel alive....

From: bluedog
24-Jan-24
I was a crew chief .. (left door).... 67/68 Your Dad and I woulda got along just fine I'll wager. Clear he didn't mind some sand paper. ;) Nowadays guess I'm just aging with time like that yesterday's wine. LOL

From: Chuckster
24-Jan-24
Timex, I'm glad you finished watching it. I broke it up into 2 sits. Last night and this morning. It was on my mind last night after watching the first half. I was really angry that our media, politicians and judges could sacrifice these officers to save the extent of property damage. Makes you wonder what other "stuff" we see on the news that have been manipulated to fit a narrative also.

24-Jan-24
"We are not the same..........."

for sure...i damn sure dont need multiple run-ins with the law ...arrests...and jail time to build my character.

24-Jan-24
"There's zero doubts in my mind which one of yall I'd rather have backing me in a bar fight.....

Now to you that probably has little if any meaning...."

youre absolutely right...but not for the reason you might think.

neither me or my friends (3am or otherwise) get into altercations in bars...or anywhere else.

you can have the last word now. something tells me that might just be what gets you into these situations. :)

From: t-roy
24-Jan-24
Jeezus!!! You guys really need to get a room!

From: Nomad
24-Jan-24
I agree Ricky needs to quit beating that horse.

With that said, The city didn't need to burn down. Governor Walz could have & should have called for the National Guard at the first sign of things going awry. He claimed on camera he couldn't because the Mayor of Minneapolis needed to ask for it to be legal (He also called the Guard a bunch of 19 year old cooks). Mayor Frey said on camera that he did ask for the National Guard in an email to the Governor 3 days before they were called out & showed the email. So Walz let the city burn for 3 days needlessly. Ask yourself why? (Hint: George Soros came to Minnesota the day after he was first elected to have lunch with him.) Some speculate they were waiting for President Trump to send in the National Guard without waiting to be ask by Walz. Which would've been Illegal. Trump stated he had them ready & was waiting for the OK from Walz. Walz daughter was also texting rioters in real time where the cops were heading so the rioters could go & start things somewhere else. There is so much more too.

Liz Collins said the documentary could've been 6 hours long with everything they have. We're just seeing the tip of the iceberg here.

Now for a bit of my opinion: Every one of these scoundrels that allowed this to happen should've been voted out in the last election. But somehow they managed to squeak out a win, every last one of them! I think fair elections are a thing of the past. They know how to cheat now. They have the infrastructure in place. They've been doing it here in Minnesota since the Franken / Coleman senate election where Coleman won but the next day they "found" a car trunk full of ballots for Franken parked out on the street. We're being lied to boys EVERY DAY! People need to see this & wake up! Liz Collins also has a book about this called "They Lied" that goes into this a bit more in depth. She saw it all from the inside.

From: BIGHORN
24-Jan-24
I listened to the whole thing. I am not surprised that the higher up's in government lies to us citizens. MN is run by Liberals so that should tell you what they are like in their government.

From: TonyBear
24-Jan-24
Murder charges for the MN trooper today who was involved in a traffic stop/fatality last July. Yes , they found a gun near the console in the dead man's vehicle. A gun he was not legally supposed to have due to another criminal issue back in Ramsey Co. (2017). Hennepin Co. attorney Moriarity had better have her facts straight, as this case will bring up all the prior conflict issues.. Hold on to your butts MN and the greater US, it's gonna get ugly, again.

From: Catscratch
24-Jan-24

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Chuckster, you should be angry! There is no reason to wonder how often they spin things as everything they feed us is suspect. Just look at how they spun the riots. How they cover Presidents. How they presented Rittenhouse. I watched the full Rittenhouse video the morning after it happened. It was obvious he did everything he could to get away and never pulled the trigger until he absolutely had no choice. After that unedited videos completed disappeared and a narrative was established. Of course he was called a white supremacist up until the court decision didn't support it any more. Any repercussions? Nope, just business as usual.

From: TonyBear
24-Jan-24
Based on my previous comments watch 1:28:.. of the documentary for Mr. Thompson shooting his mouth off about burning Hugo to the ground (while children were present).

24-Jan-24
"Murder charges for the MN trooper today who was involved in a traffic stop/fatality last July."

well now...what do you know. just in time for election season. what a coincidence.

From: Paul@thefort
24-Jan-24
Glad to see some truth come out, compelling evidence for sure.

25-Jan-24

Ricky The Cabel Guy's Link
"Glad to see some truth come out, compelling evidence for sure."

unfortunately it wont make any difference. not only did the false narrative cost chauvin his career...his reputation...and his freedom...it will likely cost him his life.

From: Catscratch
25-Jan-24

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^^^ Wait a second... The one person in the world who might make the truth hit main stream media could die? That's SO weird!

From: Nomad
25-Jan-24
Please encourage those you know to watch it. It needs to be viewed.

From: fuzzy
25-Jan-24
Remember what compulsive rule-followers have brought us in the past. Concentration camps, slave trading, and disarmed citizens of many countries come to mind.

From: bluedog
25-Jan-24
"Do this ... don't do that, can't you read the signs?"

25-Jan-24
If you get into a bar fight, even if you win, you still lose.

From: bluedog
25-Jan-24
"If you get into a bar fight, even if you win, you still lose."

Not always...lots of chicks dig battle wounds. ;)

25-Jan-24
"...lots of chicks dig battle wounds"

lots of chicks dig death row inmates too...so thats not saying much. :)

From: Nomad
25-Jan-24
Funny, bluedog says he won't take the time to watch the documentary & he has no interest yet he keeps coming back to comment nonsense that he thinks makes him look clever. The time he's waisted here he could've watched it, become informed, & maybe added some real insight to the discussion. Instead he'd rather wallow in his willful ignorance. That's sad coming from a fellow Minnesotan. That complacency is why we have what we have here! I appreciate your service, but I'm now really disappointed in you. I know.......you don't care.

From: bluedog
25-Jan-24
Nomad.... take some comfort that I'm not a native Minnesotan. Born and spent first for or five years in Oklahoma. And you're right I don't care. ;)

From: Bob
25-Jan-24
I watched the documentary and I was incensed. Our government is beyond corrupt. There are four police officers in jail. Many good police officers retired or quit. George Floyd was a career criminal and resisted the entire time. His family was given $27,000,000 in a civil suite. What a joke.

From: Bob
25-Jan-24
I watched the documentary and I was incensed. Our government is beyond corrupt. There are four police officers in jail. Many good police officers retired or quit. George Floyd was a career criminal and resisted the entire time. His family was given $27,000,000 in a civil suite. What a joke.

From: bluedog
25-Jan-24
Also... no need to "appreciate" my service. Selfishly I did it for me.

From: fuzzy
25-Jan-24
??

From: nmwapiti
25-Jan-24
Finally made it through the whole thing. Really sad. Mob justice. The left is getting a lot of what it deserves in the inner cities because of their idiot policies. Sucks when decent people get caught up in it too.

From: fuzzy
25-Jan-24
Sorry Bowsite turns the laughter face into two question marks

25-Jan-24
How would you like to be a conservative trapped in one of those crap holes. Perhaps that used to be a city you loved. But now you can’t afford to move out.

I’m guessing that is common in the liberal dystopia

And just imagine. in 10 more years of this. We will look back at how good everything is now.

From: Grey Ghost
25-Jan-24
"And just imagine. in 10 more years of this. We will look back at how good everything is now."

I can't imagine living with that Chicken Little attitude, but to each his own, I guess.

Matt

25-Jan-24
"His family was given $27,000,000 in a civil suite. What a joke."

more like the race hustling attorneys were given 9 million...and the family was given 18 million. the unfortunate thing is the family will likely be broke in 5 years...and that wont be their fault either.

From: csalem
25-Jan-24
Timex??

Who here is spineless ?

Have not witnessed that at all

From: csalem
25-Jan-24
Yes seriously. Spineless, nope have no idea who that would be.

From: RK
25-Jan-24
Yea. Got that. Stood up to LEO and went to jail. That's what sometimes happens. But that did/does make you spineless Obviously contributed to your character

All great stuff, so why are you being so hard on yourself I'm somewhat confused

From: Starfire
25-Jan-24
FYI this is the same district that Ilhan Omar represents and continues to be re-elected. As Minneapolis Burned, she tweeted ‘Our Anger Is Just.

From: RK
25-Jan-24
Yep Timex. I don't get spineless from Ricky. Just a different way of dealing with things. Probably like your Father had a different way of dealing with things, and maybe even Fuzzy dealing with things differently.

None of it matters. We all survive the best we can. Nobody has the true answer And yet most of us make it through.

26-Jan-24
rk...

as a young man...i remember my dad saying..

"it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight than it does to fight."

and

"when the only tool a person has is a hammer, they tend to see every problem as a nail.”

ive come to realize he was a very smart man.

From: shade mt
26-Jan-24
Facts.... George Floyd was a habitual criminal, not just drugs, but also armed robbery.... In this instance he had committed yet another crime.... George Floyd was a manipulator and told lies to the police to gain sympathy while being arrested..... The officers asked him over and over and over again to keep his hands where they could see them....stop resisting ....get in the car etc.... which he did not.

George Floyd died as a result of his lifestyle, his character , his resistance to the law.

Is George Floyds death a tragedy? yea, in all honesty watching it i felt sorry for the man. Not because he suffered at the hand of police brutality, but because he had wasted his life in such a degrading manner of habitual crime and drugs.

George Floyd died as a victim of his own self destruction. The officer needs to be left out of jail. The family should not have been given money, and this twisted society of ours needs to have a clear understanding of right and wrong.

From: fuzzy
26-Jan-24
I have lots of tools. I use the right one for the job at hand.

From: x-man
26-Jan-24
Timex, you should have quit a long time ago. 90% of the readers of this thread can see right through you for the disrespectful trouble seeker that you are. The more you try to defend yourself, the worse you look. If we were neighbors, I'm sure we would be best friends but, dang dude, stop living life so angry.

From: KsRancher
26-Jan-24
^this

From: Deerdawg
26-Jan-24
I did not watch video, don't have to. I saw it all on news for months. It was a divisive move by the left to separate people, it worked. This whole incident was brought on by himself. Floyd got what he wanted, to be killed in such a way that his wasted life, was someone else's fault other than his own. All he had to do was not resist and he would have been alive. A victim of others actions? He was not, he was a victim of his own bad decisions. Accountability is only for other people. We have a nation full of these useless unproductive people.

From: fuzzy
26-Jan-24
I'm picturing Ricky using a digital micrometer to drift the bucket wrist pin out of a backhoe boom. Lol

From: Slate
26-Jan-24
I watched it when it came out. I will resist to comment as they took many peoples jobs for expressing their freedom of speech.

From: KsRancher
26-Jan-24
Fuzzy. If your beating out the bucket pin. It comes out of the stick, not the boom :)

26-Jan-24
"I have lots of tools. I use the right one for the job at hand."

me too. sometimes the right tool for the job is just the knowledge or maturity to know that the situation at hand calls for expertise...or even temperament...that you dont possess.

From: PECO2
26-Jan-24
Timex, "Once the cuffs go on ya sit down & shut your mouth or get your head busted." Why not comply and avoid the cuffs and the bullshit in the first place? You can yield before cuffs, or after cuffs. Either way you are yielding. Neither way makes you a pussy or a bad ass.

From: tobywon
26-Jan-24
The right tool is the one you can use to put your dicks away and end the pissing match :)

From: xtroutx
26-Jan-24
I found a lot of interest in the op's original link, not so much in someone trying to prove if they were a bad ass or not. Really don't care.

From: Grey Ghost
26-Jan-24
But it pretty damn obvious that I'm the only one that is willing to talk about it....."

Painfully obvious, and odd too, IMO. This thread isn't about you.

Matt

From: bluedog
26-Jan-24
Grew up in the country ... good friend of mine had a saying.... "What happens in the barn stays in the barn"... LOL

From: PECO2
26-Jan-24
Timex, I smoked weed, drank, and did some stupid shit when I was young. I never got caught. I'll be 62 years old next month.

From: Catscratch
26-Jan-24
Did some stupid stuff, will like do some more before it's all said and done. Everyone has a line in the sand that they won't cross. Mine was when the LEO showed up. Timex's was after he was subdued. Floyds line in the sand was way the hell out there. We're all different.

26-Jan-24
"Everyone has a line in the sand that they won't cross. Mine was when the LEO showed up."

that makes sense to me...and i suspect it makes sense to 99% of the population. in some peoples eyes...that makes them a "pussy" or "spineless."

ironically....if george floyd had been a little more of a "spineless" "pussy"...he might well be alive...derek chauvin and others would be free...minneapolis woudnt have burned...and billions of dollars in of damage would have been prevented.

From: TonyBear
26-Jan-24
Some kind of badge of honor for having a run in with police? I got a ticket for doing 58 in a 55 once. My son and I were on the way to his Grandma's singing "I wanna hippapatomaus for Christmas" in falsetto. The trooper did a U turn to come up behind us and make the stop. Whoa that was a mood changer, I knew we were having a good time really didn't think we were driving erratically or fast. He obviously was having a bad day. Asked for lisc. reg., insurance info etc. and I treated him with nothing but respect. We still were giggling when he came back to the car. I was intending to challenge in court but some other family issue and work stuff came out. It was easier to just pay it. That was during the follow-up to the summer riots....

On one other occasion 30 years prior, I did fight it. When to court demonstrating with a speedometer/dyno test that my speedometer was off. I was in a cast by the time the court date came up (slip on ice on ski trip). If you have ever been in County court all the defendants show up at the same time, you get general swear in and take a seat. Thus, you are not to be late (a few guys were). After a few hours of having so called "bad-assess", multi- DUIs, druggies, etc. the judge displayed some toughness. Unprepared folks went right from court, cuffed to jail. The knuckleheads who came in late claimed they were sworn in, but the judge took note they were late(time) and missed it. He asked them if they had been sworn in at (time) and they said yes. After reading their charges he added perjury, and bailiff carted them off.

Then came my turn. I hobbled up to the bench, judge looked at me and asked "what's your story?" I said: "skiing accident." Huh, he replied. Out West? "Yes, your honor we took the train out to Whitefish" I said. He asked about the general snow conditions, then the speeding ticket. How fast do you think you were going? (ticket was for 49 in a 35), "Probably just about the speed limit": I stated, producing the tech report for my speedometer, "as you can see it is off by about 18-20 percent." Wow I usually don't get these, bailiff note in the file the operator has produced a tech report." he said.

"So really how fast do you think you were going?", he asked. Just over the limit I repeated. OK so if we kinda split it you were going about 40 same as when you crashed, right?? Oh, I was going over 40.... Ended up for a ticket of 42 in a 35. Went home the "bad asses" who showed disrespect did not.

Moral of the story, treat people with respect you usually get it in return.

From: bowhunt
26-Jan-24
We’ll thread was detailed in a spectacular way!!!

From: bluedog
26-Jan-24
Timex... I remember a medevac way back when guy was crying for his mamma... didn't strike me as a pussy though.... (he didn't survive the ride btw)

From: bowhunt
26-Jan-24
You guys do remember Timex admitted he gets on Bowsite to stir the pot, and get a laugh while sitting on the toilet right???

Not sure why you would spends days bickering with someone that has stated on this forum that he comes here to stir the pot.

From: Grey Ghost
26-Jan-24
"Gg......My entire point was-is. That I can relate to the floyd video......I've been there & done that....."

That's where we differ. I can't relate. I've never resisted arrest, or given a LEO a reason to kneel on my neck. I've never begged LEOs to not shoot me. I've never been high on the drugs Floyd had in his system. I don't have a criminal record as long as my arm. And I certainly don't think spending a week in jail is a "badge of honor", quite the opposite, in fact. And I have no desire to discuss the stupid things I've done in the past on a public forum. Yeah, we are definitely different.

Matt

From: bowhunt
26-Jan-24

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Timex…

Just put the lazer pen away.

I know you enjoy messing with them, but stop.

Please!

From: KsRancher
26-Jan-24
There are a lot of us would stand there under the right circumstances. You are standing there because of your ego. Not because you want to be respected

From: csalem
26-Jan-24
Bluedog. Too many of those guys. Way to many

If being taken to jail and smarting off to a judge and LEO officers is a badge of honor and a character builder then Timex I suggest you go find some of those black kids in your area that you have spoken about and shake their hands because based on your definition of character building they in fact probably have way more than you do.

26-Jan-24
Timex, this thread is not about you, your life or trying to prove that you're the biggest badass on the Internet.

Ricky makes an excellent point. The point is, look at all the death, destruction and life changing crap that probably wouldn't have happened if George Floyd would have been a little less like you. Think about that for a while...

26-Jan-24
"The point is, look at all the death, destruction and life changing crap that probably wouldn't have happened if George Floyd would have been a little less like you."

its painfully obvious that some people dont quite understand the concept of a chain of events and how one action leads to another.

this thread is a perfect example of another thing i remember my dad saying...

"if youre in a hole...quit digging." lol

From: bluedog
26-Jan-24
csalem... didn't do medevacs as usual business... only if at a place in a moment or if unarmed medivac chopper called for "any armed chopper in area" (too hot lz) Didn't like them much so that's fine... did maybe a dozen or so?

From: x-man
26-Jan-24
Been going to bars an average of once a week for 45 years. Never been anywhere close to being in a fight... I've broken up a few... the same sort of individuals involved each time. I don't believe any of them even truly understood what the word respect means.

But then, I don't go looking for trouble. I go there looking to have a drink and visit with friends. Silly me.

From: csalem
26-Jan-24
So now the story is as age has set in your method of conflict resolution has been and will be just to shoot your way out. LMAO

How many notches on that there shooting iron, Pard ?

I always leave when things get bizarre. I’ll let the rest of you deal with “Wild Bill”

From: t-roy
26-Jan-24
“I don’t see myself as being AN a hole”………fixed it for ya, Timex.

From: bowhunt
26-Jan-24

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27-Jan-24
"Been going to bars an average of once a week for 45 years. Never been anywhere close to being in a fight..."

"But then, I don't go looking for trouble. I go there looking to have a drink and visit with friends."

same.

at the end of the day...its not about making mistakes. every single one of us has made mistakes. its about what you do after the mistakes are made...especially if the law shows up.

george floyd made mistakes for sure. he escalated those mistakes into a situation that lead to his own death. that should be the end of the story.

the documentary isnt so much about that...but about how race hustlers...leftists...and political opportunists knowingly exploited that situation to advance a particular narrative...that ultimately led to many more deaths...many ruined lives...many ruined reputations and careers...and billions upon billions in damage all over the world.

george floyd was nothing but their pawn.

From: shade mt
27-Jan-24
as a youth i sowed my wild oats.....But the difference between myself and George Floyd is this....

I manned up to my mistakes, i had parents that taught me right from wrong. If i did something wrong underage drinking whatever, i didn't have a big "i'm innocent" sob story, i simply took my licks... I worked hard, i played hard. My parents would have NEVER, NEVER NEVER!! EVER said or did anything to incite a riot, "my poor kid"etc..."Police are the bad guys" etc...rather i'd have gotten my butt kicked into the middle of next week and told to straighten up.

Myself, i would have been totally disgusted to see a bunch of low life scumbags using my mistake as an excuse to riot and loot.....Lots of people have lived a little crazy in their youth, mistakes? yea.......Big difference between that and what we are talking about here. wake up people, two wrongs NEVER make a right.

George Floyd...made the bed he slept in, and the rioters should have been told to go home or get shot.....graveyard dead, period.

27-Jan-24
its not illegal to drink and then drive...its only illegal if your bac is over the legal limit.

never gotten a dui...nor have i ever been pulled over for it. if i had...i damn sure would not have gotten belligerent with the cop...and i damn sure would not have resisted arrest...thats the point.

this is not...nor has it ever been about whether or not anyone has done anything stupid or broken any laws. its about what a person chooses to do if they have an encounter with law enforcement.

27-Jan-24
"You just admitted to being irresponsible as an adult..."

are you drunk now?

what part of this...

"this is not...nor has it ever been about whether or not anyone has done anything stupid or broken any laws. its about what a person chooses to do if they have an encounter with law enforcement."

...dont you quite understand?

oh...and by the way...the average 180 lb adult male can have 2-3 beers per hour and still not be over the legal limit. not everybody that goes to a bar guzzles booze until theyre hammered...belligerent...or wanting to fight.

yep...thats another thing my dad used to talk about...doing things in moderation.

From: bowhunt
27-Jan-24

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27-Jan-24
"what part of this...

"this is not...nor has it ever been about whether or not anyone has done anything stupid or broken any laws. its about what a person chooses to do if they have an encounter with law enforcement."

...dont you quite understand?"

From: PECO2
27-Jan-24
Timex, I bet you that I am less impaired to drive after one or 2 beers then when I'm very tired. I am less impaired to drive after one or 2 beers than all the tourist driving around willy nilly in Colorado. Just sayin.

From: csalem
27-Jan-24
Well George Floyd was certainly driving around Willy Nilly and look where that all ended up

Nomad even with the standard Bowsite zig and zag THANKS for posting the video Very eye opening

From: PECO2
27-Jan-24
Timex have you ever driven in Florida? I am way less impaired after even 4 or 5 beers than all the blue hairs down there. I'm less impaired after a few beers than all the stoners, (locals and tourist) driving around Colorado. So yeah, if it's legal, I'm having a beer and lunch at a brewery while I'm in town, occasionally.

From: x-man
27-Jan-24
I also don't drive after two beers. The wife and I take turns driving/drinking. Never had a DUI or DWI. When your family and most of your friends are LE, you tend to make sure there's no one around you driving impaired.

From: PECO2
27-Jan-24
Just to be clear, I don't go to bars, get impaired and drive. I'll drink one beer with lunch at a brewery. I'll stop at the local bar for one beer after fishing if any of my friends are there. My reference to being more impaired when tired, or less impaired to other horrible drivers was just to make a point.

27-Jan-24
"but claim to have never driving drunk"

can you show me where i ever said that? just a quick cut and paste would be good.

you said in another thread that you quit school in the 9th grade. i would have thought you could read by then...but apparently not.

From: bowhunt
27-Jan-24

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Shot this guy at 30 yards in the central Oregon high desert.

Big bodied old buck.

I actually let my bow down after holding on him 2 times. Body was so big I thought he was not even 160inches. He turned his head and I changed my mind. Was a little over 170 inch buck.

Shot him with a Grim Reaper Carne Four. Ram about 75 yards and died!!!

From: bowhunt
27-Jan-24

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bowhunt's embedded Photo
This is the same buck.

My buddy was right behind me and took this photo right before the shot.

Big bodied buck!

From: bowhunt
27-Jan-24
What’s your go to broadhead Timex?

27-Jan-24
"Ricky you lay claim To being at a bar once a week for 45 years......if I were you I'd be more concerned with your alcoholic tendencies.....than trying to outwit timex on bowsight."

i was in a bar twice this week and didnt have an alcoholic beverage either time.

maybe you cant go to a bar without ending up in the back seat of a squad car...but for most people that's the norm.

outwitting timex is a bit like outwitting a doorknob. lol

From: bowhunt
27-Jan-24
What broadheads you shooting this year Ricky?

27-Jan-24
"What broadheads you shooting this year Ricky?"

depends on which bow and arrow setup i was using. either vintage bear razorheads with screw in adapters or 125 grain wensel woodsmans.

can you stay on topic though? if you want to talk about broadheads...why dont you start a thread about broadheads. :)

From: bowhunt
27-Jan-24

bowhunt's embedded Photo
bowhunt's embedded Photo
Just following the rules Ricky!!! :)

So you shooting tradbows?

From: RK
27-Jan-24
Timex. A waitress at the bar WTF. grow up

Bow hunt. Good luck with that. The owner of the site breaks those rules

My god does nobody here have the ability to pass up a topic that doesn't interest them??

From: TonyBear
27-Jan-24
Drinking, driving and bowhunting/archery-mmm sounds like more than a few folks need to review the Myles Keller story.

I had to shout at, grab my kids, yell at drivers more than once keeping them from being hit by a vehicle. Had a colleague who had his life destroyed when family hit by drunk driver. Reviewed way too many insurance claims as a safety guy to give any support for impaired driving at any level. Drink ? Then let someone else drive, stay off the damn phone, stoned driving is impaired driving- no excuse for it.

27-Jan-24
”Timex. A waitress at the bar WTF.”

don’t be so hard on him…that’s the way timex gets when he’s 3 or 4 titos in…

lol

From: fuzzy
28-Jan-24
"If you drink don't drive do the watermelon crawl"

From: shade mt
28-Jan-24
If you have any doubt about what is honorable, worthy etc... I suggest you watch a true story, like the American soldiers in somolia, blackhawk down etc... Then watch the video the OP posted about George Floyd....Then tell me who or what is honorable. They made statues and paintings and made George Floyd a hero.....You tell me? Or maybe Hunter Biden etc...You tell me?

What type of people are the true spirit of America? again.....you tell me?

From: shade mt
28-Jan-24
And along with that last post....Our society is made up of givers.....and takers, which was George Floyd? or the looters and rioters?...givers?, or takers?

From: Grey Ghost
28-Jan-24
Timex, with all due respect, why do you insist on making this thread about you?

28-Jan-24
"It completely dumbfounds me that yall seem to think cowardness is a quality trait in a man."

are you suggesting what george floyd did was brave...commendable... or admirable? how about the rioters and looters? or how about those that allowed it to happen by ordering law enforcement to stand down? how about those that blatantly lied about what derek chauvin was trained to do...what george floyd actually died of...and what people did to cover those things up?

From: fuzzy
28-Jan-24
Yap yap

28-Jan-24
"By admitting that I've been arrested by absolutely zero means implys that anything George Floyd did or didn't do is admirable in any way."

then why do you keep bringing up your multiple negative interactions with law enforcement (state...county...game wardens...coast guard...marine police)...your bar fights...your lack of a filter...your being attitudinal...and your insistence that people who dont act like you when interacting with law enforcement are cowards or pussies.

what are the chances that all those negative interactions...with all those different law enforcement agencies...are the fault of them and not you?

thats not spin dude...those are your words.

From: Nomad
28-Jan-24
I'm going to start another post called Ricky TCG & Timex?.

You guys can go over there & continue your pissing contest. This post is about the documentary. Thanks for watching it though.

28-Jan-24
This post is about the documentary. Thanks for watching it though."

youre right. i watched it when it was first released...and if im not mistaken...i think i might have started a thread about it here.

at the end of the day...people died...people lost their freedom...and billions of dollars in damage occurred because some people simply dont think they have to follow lawful orders.

From: Thornton
28-Jan-24
I saw a few videos of the Floyd arrest of him in the 5 or so minutes prior to the knee on the chest, I was surprised that those other camera angles were not shown on mainstream media after they ran with the narrative. What I saw was a guy resisting arrest, then appearing to be having some sort of medical event prior to them ever placing a knee on his chest. What I saw very well could have been the effects of Fentanyl, which causes the diaphragm to freeze, inhibiting or ceasing inspiration. We call it "frozen chest" in the ER and I've treated dozens of overdoses in the last 18 years.

From: Thornton
28-Jan-24

Thornton's Link
2:09 upper left portion of the screen, he falls down. I saw a closer video but can't find it.

29-Jan-24
"I was surprised that those other camera angles were not shown on mainstream media after they ran with the narrative."

is that really a surprise?

is the same "narrative" over and over and over again. it was the same narrative in the michael brown case...the freddy gray case...the daunte wright case...the breonna taylor case...the ma'khia bryant case...the trayvon martin case...the jordan neeley case... and the list goes on and on.

mark my words...now that it is election season...the race hustlers and their willing co conspirators in the main stream media will be working overtime to ramp up another one.

From: fuzzy
29-Jan-24

fuzzy's Link
I apologize for taking part in sidetracked this thread. Here is my on-topic contribution: https://www.minneapolis.org/blog/fall-colors-minneapolis/

29-Jan-24

Ricky The Cabel Guy's Link
Blue Truth Matters

"The Black Lives Matter movement trades on Americans’ ignorance about the demographics of criminal offending. As long as that ignorance prevails, BLM’s anti-cop narrative will continue destroying the institutions of law and order."

"Census data is the wrong benchmark for evaluating police behavior, however. The proper benchmark is crime rates, because policing today is data-driven, deploying officers to where criminals prey on their victims.

Blacks in New York City commit over 70% of all drive-by shootings, according to the victims of, and witnesses to, those shootings, who are overwhelmingly minority themselves. Add Hispanic shootings to black shootings and you account for nearly 100% of all shootings in New York City. These numbers mean that virtually every time an officer gets a “shots fired” call over his radio, he is being called to a minority neighborhood, on behalf of a minority victim, and being given the description of a minority suspect, if anyone is cooperating with the police for once. The cops don’t wish this reality into being. It is forced upon them by the facts of crime.

Such disparities exist in every American city. In Chicago, blacks commit about 80% of all shootings and murders, and whites less than 2%, though both blacks and whites are each a little less than a third of the population. In St. Louis, blacks commit up to 100% of all homicides, though they are less than 50% of the population."

"Most police departments make it difficult, if not impossible, to get racial data on criminal offending. Yet many departments are under legislative mandates to provide racial data on police activity like car stops. These laws are intended to provide activists with fodder for racial profiling lawsuits. Invariably, those racial profiling data collection laws also use a population benchmark for assessing officer bias. No data collection mandate has ever required the publication of crime or traffic law violation rates by race."

11-Feb-24
had a strange thing happen yesterday...thought i might share.

while driving through town...for the first time in about 30 years...i got lit up. sure enough...i got pulled over by the city police. knowing i hadnt done anything wrong...i turned to my wife and said i wonder what hes pulling me over for? we both had no clue.

i immediately pulled off the road...put my vehicle in park...and rolled down the window. when the cop came up to my window...he said hi...how are you...i did the same...and proceeded to inform me that the reason i was pulled over was because my license plate tabs were expired...since freaking october!

he asked for my dl...my registration...and insurance. i got it all out of the glove compartment and sure enough...i couldnt find my current registration. i absolutely couldnt believe it as i am usually never delinquent on such things...especially when you pay an extra fee if you are late. we both laughed about being too cheap for that...

long story short...he took my license...went back to his car...and im sure ran all my numbers. i still would have wagered that i renewed them online...received them...and just failed to put them on. i was certain they were sitting at home somewhere.

he returned to the car and told me...nope...they hadnt been renewed. he proceeded to tell me that he normally issues a citation for expired tabs...especially 5 months expired... but asked if i would get the sos on monday. i said of course i will and he said he would give me a break if i promised to get them renewed on monday. again...we laughed about it...i thanked him for his understanding...told him to stay safe...and we parted ways.

the whole time i was thinking about this thread and how different things would have been had i chosen to be a belligerent a-hole...about something that was my own damn fault. instead there was no faces in the dirt...no knee on my neck...no handcuffs...no course words...no trips to the police station...not even a citation. just a cordial interaction between a motorist and a cop doing his job.

will i go to the sos on monday...nope.

as soon as we got to where we were going...i renewed them...including the $30 late fee... online.

:)

From: x-man
11-Feb-24
The attitude of the officer is almost 100% dependent on his/her first impression of the driver.

Timex still doesn't get the fact that his own attitude starts every interaction.

11-Feb-24
"How would you have handled that situation.........with a smile or an attitude in return.......

Be honest with your answer."

honest answer...

i would not have handled my part of the interaction any differently.

as i mentioned before i know who has the power in a situation like that...and whether i like it or not...it most definitely isnt me. having an attitude...regardless of whether or not he had one...will never help. there is nothing to be gained by it...only lost.

i also know how to deescalate a situation by doing everything that im supposed to do as soon as i see the lights. that includes immediately pulling over and acting cordial.

molasses vs sandpaper

From: Norseman
11-Feb-24
“The attitude of the officer is almost 100% dependent on his/her first impression of the driver.”

Got that right! They need to know if they can get away with violating you 4th Amendment Rights or not.

11-Feb-24
"yall either lived an extremely conservative childhood,,,,,or just don't have the balls to open up the barn doors & let the secrets out."

first of all...what you described in your previous posts wasnt your "childhood"...you were an adult.

second...its not that most of us never did (or still do) anything stupid or illegal...it was all about what we choose to do... or how we choose to act when caught.

From: Grey Ghost
11-Feb-24
I see no point to letting 42 year old skeletons out on a public forum. Do you think any of us really care about yours?

11-Feb-24
"Ricky your comprehension sucks,,,,,,, go back and read. I was dating my wife , girlfriend at that time living with her, I was 19 or 20. I didn't get the notification that my license had been suspended for not paying a $25 dollar ticket which ultimately led to me cussing a judge ...........if you consider a 19/ 20 year old an adult........ "

my comprehension is just fine and youre darn right i consider a 19 or 20 year old an adult...and so does the law in every state...something you dont seem to have much respect for.

no matter how many times you try to explain it away...its not the offense that is the issue...it is your response that is the issue.

go back and read the underlined portion of your quote. maybe at some point youll get it.

lastly...im not judging you on what you did back then...im judging you on what you say about it now.

From: Norseman
11-Feb-24
“The attitude of the officer is almost 100% dependent on his/her first impression of the driver.”

Got that right! They need to know if they can get away with violating you 4th Amendment Rights or not.

11-Feb-24
”The only difference I see is,,,,I'm man enough to own up to & speak about my mistakes.”

I owned up to and spoke about my mistake yesterday .

I also spoke about how I reacted to getting pulled over for my mistake…and how it ultimately turned out for me.

the only difference I see is how most people’s mistakes dont get compounded by belligerent behavior.

11-Feb-24
no phenom…just raised to respect authority and pick my battles wisely.

and yes…I do consider that an adult. an adult acting like a child.

11-Feb-24
”Kinda feel sorry for ya brother. ...”

you really don't get it do you?

no need to feel sorry for me brother. i did all those things too…they just didn’t end up in me getting my head busted by police…being put in cuffs…going to jail…cussing out judges…etc…etc…etc.

From: csalem
11-Feb-24
Timex. You have done well in your life considering where you came from. It’s obvious why your Proper Marine Father threw you out of the house. No foul really, you deserved it based on your stories now

We all lived pretty much what you did. You did really did nothing unique. My gen. Did the same when they were not getting the hell shot out of them in Vietnam and becoming real men. You were lucky and you should be proud of your successes not your mistakes.

11-Feb-24
i dont know about all the rest of that stuff...but i have no doubt i will indeed be "getting tf out of dodge."

on the other hand...you will probably be incarcerated in dodge...waiting for your opportunity to cuss out a judge. lol

edit: "i did all those things too…"

i take that back...i never did drugs. i was never that stupid.

From: csalem
11-Feb-24
Ricky told the bowsite no such thing. Chill out dude. We all got you were the ultimate bad dude of your area during your generation And nothing different than every place in the world.

11-Feb-24
"You just told all of bowsight what a "coward" you are....."

only in your mind timex...only in your mind.

have another titos bro...im going to watch the rest of the game.

ps...if you decide to go out...you might want to have your 3am friend on speed dial. :)

From: csalem
11-Feb-24
No bone with you … best we keep at that way. WTF Timex Threatening again.

That’s all you got. Puff up and threaten.

Good luck with your Bromance with Fuzzy. I’m done with Mr Tough Guy

Good luck Rickey with this fool.

Nothing ever works out with white trash. Nothing

11-Feb-24
"That’s all you got. Puff up and threaten."

is it really any wonder he ends up sideways with the law?

"Good luck Rickey with this fool."

no thanks...im good.

what could i say that would illustrate my point better than what he already has?

From: Nomad
12-Feb-24

Nomad's Link
Ricky & Timex?

12-Feb-24

Ricky The Cabel Guy's Link
nomad

From: Nomad
13-Feb-24
Well dam Ricky......it was working when I posted it.

13-Feb-24
mine too...

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