Irans President
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"hard landing" in helicopter crash this morning,site located this afternoon in remote forested mountains,sending rescue teams,very cold tonight.Lets hope for the worst.
Crash n burn baby. I have no sympathy for that one. Hard to survive a helicopter crash. I've been hoping for the worst since I heard about it.
Hmmmm, I wonder if he’s with his 72 virgins. I hope so, because if the crash didn’t get him…………
Hmmmm…. My FIL set one down the hard way one time…. Probably sucks a lot more in the mtns than the deep blue sea, although it’s probably reassuring (assuming you’ve survived the impact) that at least there are no sharks to worry about…..
We've owed them a chopper crash since 1980
A good friend of mine who just recently passed, had four hard landings in Nam while a crew chief on a Huey, between being shot down and mechanical failures. Survived them all. Died in Jan from cancer caused by Agent Orange.
Maybe one, will be this guy's limit.
Good riddance...unfortunately no matter what happened i have a feeling they will find a way to say israel was behind it...and many others will suffer as a result.
Sounds like he was in an old American helicopter with poor maintenance? WTF?
If he’s dead, his replacement might be just as bad, or worse.
“Sounds like he was in an old American helicopter with poor maintenance? WTF?”
There are those who would ask which one of our units the borrowed it from…. My BIL had catastrophic failures on his planes on at least 3 and probably 4 occasions; would have been within his rights to eject every time, but managed to land them all anyway.
The US Military is not at all underfunded, but the budget gets blown on sexy crap that our Fighters don’t want or need, but politicians want it because it brings the Pork back to their home states….
Politicians and pork ? Why the very idea………;-))
Some might find this interesting..... couple years after Vietnam (for me) ...Bell had openings for mechanics in Iran, back when the old Shah still ran it. Their military was a big Bell customer. I applied even though I knew I had little chance. I was just a 67N20 crewchief and that's not near the level they were looking for. Of course I didn't get hired. Would have been interesting.
My question was why would it be American?
Good damn riddance is perfect.
Because many, if not most, of their aircraft are left over from the Shah era when they bought US aircraft.
I hope it was a real hard landing & disintegrated upon impact. One good thing is any of his top officials reported aboard..
“Because many, if not most, of their aircraft are left over from the Shah era when they bought US aircraft.”
That’s my understanding….
Iran — it’s like Cuba, except for aircraft, instead of cars!
Mountains, fog, and helicopters isn’t a great recipe.
Another high level minster of something was also on board his resume includes having 30,000 Iranians put to death. Perhaps a twofer!
Foreign Minister was with him.
I think he was in line to be the next Supreme Leader. If he died that's a pretty big deal.
Bluedog, It wasn't you, they had probably met their quota. I worked for Lear Siegler in Vietnam. They had contracts to maintain Army helicopters all over the country. Iran didn't have a war going on so there probably wasn't much turnover. Vietnam was a different story. After every mortar or rocket attack there was an exodus going back to the states. Contract was for 6 months. spent 2.5 years there the first time. My last 2 years was on a VNAF contract got there Dec 71, left Dec 73, Saigon fell in April 74. Handwriting was on the wall when I left. Some of the guys I worked with had worked in Saudi Arabia for Lockheed on C-130's and others had worked on f-4's in Iran and in the UK.
Terry
Was thinking of you Coyote... Go Little Bears ;)
I hope he survived the crash. Then the JP8 ignited from the ruptured engines and fuel lines.
Not sure if this link will work, but drone video shows no sign of life at crash site and large debris field
If that is the debris field It is big. And a huge hard landing. All aboard are certainly spread all around
Not just spread skids on that hard landing.
Terry
Terry... spread skids always make me smile. Went up to I Corp day before Tet 68 ..by the time I finally lost my sweet old D model I bet the skids were spread... well a lot. LOL.. Had no field maint support, we were a 7 ship detatchment. No skids. The Capt and I decided to call it good cuz we were down to 2 or 3 flyable... ahh I digress ;)
Maybe launching all those missiles at Israel wasn't a good idea.
"Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi along with Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian and other officials died in a helicopter crash in the country’s East Azerbaijan province, Iran’s state-run Press TV reported."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/05/20/iran-president-helicopter-crash-news/
He's confirmed dead.
Nick, do "they" have a special place or something that "they" put a little notch in when "they" get a head of state?
American college protesters and Hamas are stunned at possible interruption to their funding as a power struggle plays out in Iran.
Won't be much of a power struggle, they have more of these fascist bastards lined up six deep to take his place.
Did Israel have a hand in this??
Kudos to Israel for a direct hit.
Wild story. Hopefully doesn't lead to escalations in tensions. I was surprised to see Iranians blaming weather yesterday, havent looked today at what's being said...
If this cleared the way for a better government that allowed Iranians to become a more open nation which can be a positive nation... I'm not optimistic that happens... But it's a nice thought.
Maybe we can send them some of our fascist bastards to get in line?
One can only hope that this event might trigger a serious regime change to give the general Iranian population a decent government. (Peace Corps Volunteer in a small Iranian village 1969-1971)
" ‘Technical Failure’ Caused Helicopter Crash That Killed Iran’s President, State News Agency Reports"
Apparently the Iranians are not as conspiracy-minded as some people here ;-)
Be interesting if Iranians can use the moment to be like Georgians (the country) and work to change the leadership for the better. I'm doubtful it can really happen there for many reasons... But here's to hoping!
"Mossad" - Yeah, me thinking same too...
If youenz never seen the movie, "Munich", check it out, great movie...
I think that huey was vintage seventies, pretty high tech to cart your leader around in... 3rd world country that has our balls in their hand for some odd reason. scentman
Well very sad situation sounds like. I guess there were 3 empty seats. What a shame.
Shane
Well I hate to see cruel and mean but I hope it was a slow and miserable death. He certainly deserves it for all the pain and suffering he handed out. Next!!
Well I hate to see cruel and mean but I hope it was a slow and miserable death. He certainly deserves it for all the pain and suffering he handed out. Next!!
Recurve Man and LBshooter, y'all have a way of putting things into prospective.
When he saw the Jewish pilot parachute out he knew he was toast.
"Lets hope for the worst."
It is easy to judge that man by human standards, but, where anyone of YOU stand before God is a matter to determine long before the suddeness of death. As Jesus said in Luke 13:1-5, "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
This isn't the first time men like such has placed their hand against Israel and find out the truth of what God told Abraham… “I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you”
The Bible is always correct and events always find the explanation back to the scriptures… sad thing is that people today are so occupied with nothing… they miss the reality of scriptures reasoning and power.
"Well very sad situation sounds like. I guess there were 3 empty seats. What a shame."
i have to admit...when i read your post it reminded me of an old joke.
"what do you call a bus full of lawyers driving off a cliff""
"a good start."
:)
So, Iran is blaming us, not Israel.
They're saying it's because of the sanctions. Which actually could ultimately be the cause of the crash.
I thought it was very ironic that Iran asked for our(US) help locating the copter……………………and the US said: Sorry, can’t hep!
No reason to think the US or Mossad had anything to do with this. With the Ayatollah still in charge of every major decision, losing these couple of officials changes nothing in Iran.
3rd world helicopters crashing into mountains in bad weather does tend to happen more often than we might like to think
A moment of silence for this guy? Is the collective of stupid world politicos going to do the same for Hitler?
Have you seen this guys record? He has murdered and tortured tens of thousands of his own people- the guy is Satan reincarnate.
We will never know, but my guess is the entire crew that maintained those helicopters was beheaded yesterday....
The Butcher of Bagdad and we want of moment of silence? Fk him burn in Hell.
"3rd world helicopters crashing into mountains in bad weather does tend to happen more often than we might like to think"
Heck, Kobe Bryant and his daughter shared a similar fate and they were rich as heck and flying in the USA...
Choppers scare me. At least in a plane, if the engine fails, you can at least glide for a while and look for a place to land.
To bad it was so quick, he deserved to go slow.
Helicopters are incredibly dangerous. I think I read somewhere you are 35% more likely to die in a helicopter than a plane. Not sure how accurate that is,but it seems
like it. I've worked with 2 medics that crashed, one as recently as January, and he and his whole crew died. They found the transmission a quarter mile from half the rotor after they hit some geese.
"Helicopters are incredibly dangerous."
That's not been my experience at all.
If it does become your experience, I doubt you'll be on here to tell us about it.
There’s a special place in Hell for these bastards!
"If it does become your experience, I doubt you'll be on here to tell us about it."
Seems your ego has no bounds. I know more about helicopters and their flight than you. That is certainty.
"Seems your ego has no bounds. I know more about helicopters and their flight than you. That is certainty."
How does ego have anything to do with it, he just posted statistics to back up his post...
"If it does become your experience, I doubt you'll be on here to tell us about it"
That's what tripped me.... I am experienced... you guys carry on, I'm done
How do the stats on planes and copters compare to automobiles?
I have no doubt bluedog. No doubt at all. The problem is, you sound like my motorcycle friend who thinks his skills alone will save him. The numbers don't lie and I work a trauma bay that treats these types. I also rub shoulders with helicopter pilots weekly, and I like to listen to their stories. These medical flight services only hire the best of the best. I also own a plane,but I'm far from being experienced. I know the statistics regardless of how good and experienced you think you are, so insert your ego comment in application to yourself. Also add a third helicopter accident to my previous statement. My sister's father in law, Charles Taylor was the only surviving crewmember on a crash in Nam, but he later developed sudden onset alzheimers secondaryto TBI.
