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ryanrc 07-Jun-24
Grey Ghost 07-Jun-24
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Crazeymaez 07-Jun-24
JohnMC 08-Jun-24
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Mhg825 08-Jun-24
Huntcell 08-Jun-24
Basil 08-Jun-24
Will 08-Jun-24
RonP 08-Jun-24
wytex 08-Jun-24
Crazeymaez 08-Jun-24
bluedog 08-Jun-24
walking buffalo 08-Jun-24
ryanrc 08-Jun-24
Aspen Ghost 08-Jun-24
Glunt@work 08-Jun-24
DanaC 09-Jun-24
Recurve Man 09-Jun-24
Corax_latrans 09-Jun-24
midwest 09-Jun-24
Supernaut 09-Jun-24
Corax_latrans 09-Jun-24
Bowfreak 09-Jun-24
walking buffalo 10-Jun-24
From: ryanrc
07-Jun-24

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A 3rd cow elk attacked someone this week in Estes Park. The news report says the experts don't know why the sudden uptick.

Anybody else think this is directly related to the wolf release?

From: Grey Ghost
07-Jun-24
It’s directly related to retards who don’t understand wildlife, IMO.

07-Jun-24
How would it be directly related to the wolf release? I, for one, am just disappointed JohnMC wasn’t there to get some action shots of the ordeal with his camera!

From: bluedog
07-Jun-24
Jet contrails most likely driving them crazy

From: RK
07-Jun-24
Evidentially none of the experts know and none of the rookies here know so let's chalk it up to a good run by the girls.

From: Whocares
07-Jun-24
Either they had calves nearby or had no calf at all and still pissed off at being ignored last Fall! Kinda how some of your wives get. Even some of us old foresters can figure a few things out! Duh!

From: Whocares
07-Jun-24

From: Crazeymaez
07-Jun-24
Im sure getting to close to their calves whether they see em or not.

From: JohnMC
08-Jun-24
I was trying to but it attacked me

08-Jun-24
“Anybody else think this is directly related to the wolf release?”

What’s the distance between Estes and the nearest pack?

If the cows involved have been directly harassed by wolves, it’s at least plausible that they would be driven into town and would be more reactive/protective than usual….

So there might be a hypothesis worth looking into, but probably no data…

So that leaves you closer to another conspiracy theory than anything else… Shockingly enough…

From: Glunt@work
08-Jun-24
It is absolutely related even though wolves aren't around Estes. People making bad decisions is the root cause of both.

From: Mhg825
08-Jun-24
Maybe they hate non residents like most on here

From: Huntcell
08-Jun-24
As soon as 1.5 million in grant money is released to study this for 2 years we will find out why. Or not!

From: Basil
08-Jun-24
Not until the study is peer reviewed

From: Will
08-Jun-24
Seems like just a situation where people were probably to close to calves - knowingly or unknowingly. Just a weird one off where it happened in a cluster. Maybe a food issue or something. Who knows. My money though goes with GG.

From: RonP
08-Jun-24
the experts shared a lot of information on the 10MM thread that could help us be safer if we encounter this new species known as a grelk.

From: wytex
08-Jun-24
The elk in Estes are harassed by people, they have learned and it is calving season.

From: Crazeymaez
08-Jun-24
Im sure getting to close to their calves whether they see em or not.

From: bluedog
08-Jun-24
Been my observation cow elk can be just as territorial as domestic dairy or beef cattle are. ( or human females)

08-Jun-24
"The news report says the experts don't know why the sudden uptick."

No it doesn't.... The article repeated discussed the well known aggressiveness of cow elk during calving season.

From: ryanrc
08-Jun-24
Walking Buffalo. That is true. It talks about how uncommon this is and how they have never seen a year like this. There is no mention of why this unprecedented thing is happening. I should have just quoted the article.

Most likely, it is just random, but I wonder if the introduction of wolves has something to do with it. If any of those elk have been recently harassed by wolves, then it wouldn't surprise me if they are more aggressive now then in the past.

From: Aspen Ghost
08-Jun-24
I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. Estes park is an unnatural system where elk live with one of their predators but the predator is not allowed to kill and eat them. So the elk learn that in Estes Park they are actually the dominant animal rather humans. This is simply not safe for the people.

The problem is not that they are harassed by people. The problem is that they are not harassed enough.

From: Glunt@work
08-Jun-24
I wonder what percentage of people can't understand the situation is exactly that.

From: DanaC
09-Jun-24
Just curious, were any of these people trying to take a picture of the elk with their iPhones?

"Can I get a selfie with you, Mrs. Elk?"

From: Recurve Man
09-Jun-24
Hopefully those attacks were on illegal aliens or liberal idiots. Animals can usually sense an idiot.

Shane

09-Jun-24
AG pretty well covered it.

From: midwest
09-Jun-24
"It’s directly related to retards who don’t understand wildlife, IMO."

"Just curious, were any of these people trying to take a picture of the elk with their iPhones?"

The 8 year old girl on her bike, the 4 year old boy on the playground, or the lady walking her leashed dog?

From: Supernaut
09-Jun-24
Maybe they're Trans.

09-Jun-24
“On May 30, an 8-year-old girl was riding her bike when a cow elk charged the girl from around 60 yards away and stomped her.”

Damn. THAT is unexpected. Sure can’t fault the child for 60 yards….

From: Bowfreak
09-Jun-24
I was there 2 years ago during the middle of the elk rut and bulls were screaming and herding cows. People were acting stupid. I saw at least 3 different people in less than 30 minutes come close to getting hurt badly. One lady got so close she had to hide behind a forked tree to let the herd bull go by. This was right by the visitors center/welcome center. Based on my limited experience I’m shocked that people don’t get gored or trampled every fall.

10-Jun-24
"Most likely, it is just random, but I wonder if the introduction of wolves has something to do with it. If any of those elk have been recently harassed by wolves, then it wouldn't surprise me if they are more aggressive now then in the past."

No, it's not random. It's Elk being Elk and stupid People being Stupid. Sure, innocence people such as the little girl will get hurt, because of the stupidity of others.

Banff had a similar elk issue years ago, before the return of wolves ate them all. In Banff the answer to protect people from Elk was to harass the Elk until they left town. It worked.

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