Phantom Bowstrings
worst broadhead ever...for fun
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JIMM 02-Feb-06
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From: JIMM
02-Feb-06
Forgive me if this topic has been covered before but with all of the "discussions" on which broadhead is best I thought it might be interesting to see which head is/has been the worst ever. For me it was a PSE brute from about 20 years ago...seemed like it blew up on contact...never recovered one with blades in tact.

Have fun

Jim

From: Wary Buck
02-Feb-06
Browning Serpentine, a narrow winner over some of the chincy mechanical heads I've seen (never tried) over the years. The Serpentine looked cool, but couldn't have penetrated well at all. Wonder how it actually flew?

From: Bogsucker
02-Feb-06

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Mohawk!

From: Bogsucker
02-Feb-06
Image credited to archeryhistory.com

From: Goyt
02-Feb-06
I am not qualified to say what was the worst broadhead ever. My worst experiences were with the first satilite broadheads with replaceable blades. The blades were too thin and broke just hitting a rib. Poor pentration and poorer blood trails. They learned fast though.

From: Zebow
02-Feb-06
Goyt you took the words right out of my mouth. You could snap the blades off of the satellites with your finger, if I remember right they had like a goldish ferrule that screwed onto a threated insert which kept the blades on. I never like the pucket bloodtrailer mechs. either.

From: Basil
02-Feb-06
I vote for 6 blade wasp, shot 2 deer with them and retained a total of zero blades.

From: Beendare
02-Feb-06
Hypershock. Tiny entry hole with no penetration.

From: ahunter55
02-Feb-06
Hilbre 2 & 4 blade-had a plastic/nylon ferril.There was a few in the 50s-60s with this type ferril. Bigame 3 Blade-was a long narrow 3 blade with a Cutter ring around the center of ferril. Was "SUPPOSED" to cut out a hole. Filled up real nice with meat & hair. I guess it just shows we are always looking for something Better. Bows have gone through the same things. Releases, Bowquivers. I guess about anything we have ever used in Archery/Bowhunting has evoled into something different but not always better.

From: recurve
02-Feb-06
One that certainly must be in the running are those Crimson Talon's. I guess if you paint it a bright color and make it look racy it will work - not! It just looks like a disaster waiting to happen. I'm not sure why but broadheads especially seem to be subject to the gimic factor.

From: JTV
02-Feb-06
Slick Tricks................Just kidding...Just Kidding.....I love 'em....really I DO...Jeff

From: wvboy
02-Feb-06
Pucketts Bloodtrailers. I had a cousin that used to shoot these broadheads and I must say they looked pretty sketchy.

From: WW
02-Feb-06
Browning Serpentine..

It sure could core an apple though....

From: Lelys
02-Feb-06
Yeah and stingers! LOL!....I kid...I joke! No but really Crimson Talons!!! Like I said in my very first post on bowsite....You would be better off strapping a GI Joe guy on the tip of your arrow.

From: 7 points
02-Feb-06
Dont remember the whole name, but was called an MA-3.........

02-Feb-06
How about the old green wasps...

From: Youngbuck
02-Feb-06
what about the atom it has wire blades or something seen them in cabelas i have never shot them

From: Bou'bound
02-Feb-06
satellite titans for a real broadhead that sucked.

razor ring for one that was never taken seriously but would have been even worse if it had been

From: Stillhunter
02-Feb-06
That mowhawk is scary looking, can you imagine what bone would do to those blades? Or just the animals hide for that matter!

Some of Hoyts old heads were somewhat fragile, I did take a few animals with their "blackhole" heads years ago, but the "chuck-it" head didn't last long.

From: rex
02-Feb-06
I am on board with the old satalites.I was at full draw on a doe and naticed a small flash of light from the tip. I pulled away from my anchor point to look just in time to see another blade fall out. They were prone to comeing loose and dropping the blades.

From: woody
02-Feb-06
Satellites!!!!

Woody

From: Medicinemann
02-Feb-06
I never cared for the Muzzys.

From: NCDixieboy
02-Feb-06
What Muzzys? You've got to be out of your mind, I have had the same 3 BH's for 3 years and 13 deer to show for it. Only change the blades when they chip ( front shoulder bone).

02-Feb-06
punch cutters when the head was pushed back the blades pushed out then normally fell off

From: rex
02-Feb-06
I do like the Muzzy but I will not use them again. I spine shot a doe and the trheaded part of the farrei broke and the entie head fell apart.

From: HuntinHabit
02-Feb-06
Hey, does anyone have one of the old Hoyt Bow Bullet heads that they would be willing to part with?

From: Stillhunter
02-Feb-06
Huntinhabit, I have several, PM me if you would like one.

From: BB
02-Feb-06
I've never used an expandable head, but there are some of those that could compete in the run for the worst broadhead.

The two I used in my earlier years that were pure junk where the satellite and wasp heads.

I think any head that has conned point should be outlawed. There's enough knowledge today that manufactures owe bow hunting and the game bow hunters hunt more that that type of head.

There are a number of good heads today, but there are still more that are just junk. I hope bow hunters will take the time and effort to understand that a broadhead is the most important piece of equipment we use. Choose it wisely.

Have a great bowhunt. BB

From: thewest
02-Feb-06
satellite.....never again.....

From: Stealthycat
02-Feb-06
Puckett's or those Crimson Talon heads that came out last year.

From: C2
02-Feb-06
Theworst broadheads of all time in no particular order. Bodkins (that were anodized to look like they were made of brass) the steel was so soft that a wood arrow would push through the ferrule if you hit something hard.

Old green Wasp heads with the double ring lock. Especially the 6 blade model. Never saw one hold togther in game, not even a groundhog.

Hilbre with the plastic/nylon ferrule

Rippers I can't remember the company that made them) there was no way to get them sharp.

Serpentines another that you couldn't sharpen.

Punchcutters

Puckets Bloodtrailers

I am sure there are many more these are the ones I have seen with my own eyes being used and having lost game of just barely made a kill happen.

From: Bigdan
02-Feb-06
Hoyt Bow bullet the ferral drove through the blades if you hit a rib I killed a bull with one in his sholder just blades.

From: Deacon Dave
02-Feb-06
The old wasp and satilites were very poor. I used savora's back then.

From: BR Stinger
02-Feb-06
Satellites! BB, what do you mean by "conned" point?

From: Mr Wapiti
02-Feb-06
Rex you know your not supposed to hit the spine?

Guys the Satalites is killing me:) i forgtot about blades falling out and the blades exploding on impact. i shot many animals with those and recovered all but i would never trade my muzzys.

with the satalites i drew on a deer once and just before i shot it was like someone hit the eject button and ALL three blades jumped off teh head. i was able to revover then but they would not stay in that head it was garbage

From: JDinPA
02-Feb-06
You got to be kidding me about any Muzzy broadhead being on this list. They have probably killed more animals then any other broadhead out there in the last 10 years.

From: tim floyd
02-Feb-06
How about the chuck-its? The throw away broadhead.I think they were made by Easton not sure.

02-Feb-06
Another vote for Satellite! I did kill two elk with the old Satellites, but the new style heads are flimsy and garbage! And yes, the blades do fall right outa them. Muzzy Rocks!!

From: white devil
02-Feb-06
my vote for muzzy I have seen blades fall out poor penentration. and blown up ferrules.

From: Trophy8
02-Feb-06
I am just going to agree with WW and BB about the satellite's and early expandables....though the razorback 4bld or 5bld really were junk.

Razor ring or what ever that thing is called...never mind just forget it.

From: stagetek
03-Feb-06
Any Green Wasp, especially the 6 blade. And, the Super Hilbre, with it's "plastic" ferrule.

From: Shortdraw
03-Feb-06
Pucketts and punch cutters.

Scott

From: Thumper
03-Feb-06
Pearson Deadheads

From: Kirby
03-Feb-06
I've shot, Punch-cutters, Pucketts, they both get my vote.

Kirby

From: DonSchultz
03-Feb-06
Of heads that were out there in the larger marketplace;

I'd vote for the Pucket Bloodtrailer. Weak body, and when it bent, it would jam the blades, virtually a blunt tip. Little to recommend it.

From: ksman5
03-Feb-06
Guys don't want to argue but the new crimson talons are tuff. I used the first ones and was unimpressed very week. They are strong now my uncle has killed. Black bear,elk,5deer. Its all in placement but the elk was one lung it was quartering a way made a hole the size of your fist. I shoot razorcaps.

From: CLIFFS
03-Feb-06
Have seen a bunch of different heads in the last 40 years of bowunting. The worst IMO were the satellites, blades were just awful. I take exception to the Wasp 3 and 4 blades. That was all me and my buddies used and I dodn't know if I ever saw a broken blade except for those caused by rocks. We killed a bunch of deer with those heads. I have been using Magnus 2 blade several years ago, they really penetrate, blood trails are a little skimpy though. I started using the four blade with the insert, penetrarion is just as good and the bloodtrails are awesome. Just bought some Muzzy's, going to give them a try. Most of the problems with broadheads are caused by operator error, except for the junk that was floating around years ago.

From: elkman
03-Feb-06
Another vote for Muzzys.........they are just plain bad.

From: JTV
03-Feb-06
Muzzy's bad ?! You've got to be Kidding. Heck, they've taken everything from Javalena to Cape Buffolo. I'll use them again this year along with my Slicks...Jeff

From: stik-em
03-Feb-06
MUZZY and tallons oh and punch cutters

From: Whitetailer
03-Feb-06
You know this is a fun thread. I remember when I was shooting my Bear Razorheads, and killing everything, and my friends were trying the Sattelites, and telling me about the blades falling out etc. So I guess the early designs were bad. By the way, still shooting Razorheads, sharpen easy, fly great for me, and hit where I need tooo....

From: C2
03-Feb-06
Thumper what to do have against the Pearson Deadhead? From what I have read they are deadly, tough and deep penetrating.

From: Booner
03-Feb-06
kolpin twister and the broadhead that i started with in 1978- wasp 6 blade. after shooting a squirrel with one and loseing all 6 blades i'm glad i wasn't good enough to get a shot at a deer!

From: Booner
03-Feb-06
kolpin twister and the broadhead that i started with in 1978- wasp 6 blade. after shooting a squirrel with one and loseing all 6 blades i'm glad i wasn't good enough to get a shot at a deer! i should add the gametracker double cut with serrated edge like a steak knife. it would work great if you could get it to move back and forth!

From: buck hunter
03-Feb-06
Pucketts bloodtrailers for sure

From: jrhurn
03-Feb-06
I think Booner has it pegged, if the kolpin twister is the broadhead I remember. I remember the head having the blades on a ferrel that slide over the bode of the head. The blades would spin and they even recommended using graphite to reduce friction. Did I remember correctly, was it the "twister"?

James

From: BIGHORN
03-Feb-06
The old three blade Wasp. I threw them away. Wouldn't even give them to you even if you asked for them.

From: rabbit
03-Feb-06
Several over the years that I've thought were really bad: Puckett's Bloodtrailer, Kolpin Twisters, the serrated Gametracker, Punchcutters , Razor Ring & Satellite Titan.

From: Swivelhead
06-Feb-06
Savora (the old ones)

From: TBHNTR
06-Feb-06
The old aluminum body (with blunt aluminum tip) Satellites... it's amazing that they ever penetrated anything at all.

From: rh44mag
06-Feb-06
Redd fury!

06-Feb-06
After what Pat said on the community forum I would vote slick tricks

From: skipmaster1
06-Feb-06
hypershocks are pure garbage, won't even pass through a fox at 20yards out of a well tuned 65# bow. I can't believe muzzys are on here. I've shot 25 deer with the 3 blade 125's and have never had one fail in any way. Always a pass through even length wise through deer.

From: WW
06-Feb-06
How about the old Hilabrew heads with the plastic ferruls?

You can sure tell the greenhorns from the old timers on this thread!

From: jerry
06-Feb-06
The Missle Spike, this was a real gem! I'm suprised no one has mentioned it yet.

From: Joehunter
06-Feb-06
I would have agree with the very early Satellites being the worst - Kolpin twisters a close second.

I would add that the Wasp broad heads that people are talking about are the early ones that were not held by the arrow shaft, only by the rings that went around the broad head and held the blades. Atleast for a while.

The Wasp cam-lok series broad heads were not bad heads for their time. My friends and I killed a bunch of deer with them back in the 80's and never had any problems. Savora's were really not bad heads.

From: JURGY
07-Feb-06
Satalite TNT's, Chrimson Talon, Puckets Bloodtrailer, Grim Reaper, Aftershock, Steelforce.

From: ahunter55
07-Feb-06

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WHAT!!!! the MA-3. I took Deer, Black Bears, wild hogs back in the 60s with them. Hard to sharpen but practically indestructable. Not true of the MA-2s though. My 1st Deer, 1958. Check out that conglomeration of wood arrows on a poor kids bow quiver.

From: Two Arrows
08-Feb-06
Light the torches and get ready to flame away!!!

ANY mechanical broadhead. Period!

If you are too lazy, or aren't smart enough to get a fixed blade broadhead to fly out of your setup, that is YOUR fault.

I see no reason to take a chance at something that MIGHT FAIL to do the job.

Ok, now that some of you have your hackles up, let me ask you this. You got kids? You want the best and safest, foolproof protection for them in a car seat? Of course you do, if not, you are an idiot. You wouldn't skimp on something as important as your kids, would you?

Why take the chance of something going wrong while you are hunting? Why not look at it the same way? You have to admit, there is that chance something could go wrong using a mechanical broadhead, it moves and such, it might open, it MIGHT NOT.

To those that choose to use these, good luck, it is your choice, but a bad choice in my opinion. Anybody worth a darn, and who will take the time to make it work, can get a fixed blade broadhead to fly good if they make the effort. But have we become so dependent on technology that we are too lazy to make the effort? Sadly, I think this is true in today's "instant bowhunter" world.

08-Feb-06
I don't know about the worst, as there are too many to really consider. There are a few that have been around for longer than most of us. Zwickey 1939, Bodkin 1946, MA3 1946, Bear Razorheads 1956. With only minor modification these are basically unchanged in 50 years or more.. Ace has been around for ever as has Ben Pearson, only they have changed a lot from year to year and model to model. Anything else would probably get a vote or two for the worst. Some my candidates for worst would be the Pioneer Game tamer aka pizza cutter, "Hauchs" Blood trailer, Browning Serpentine which was actually a remake of the 1950's Ex-Caliber (Hard to imagine they would try that twice). Then there where the Roper's and other Cast Aluminum, and the Coe Slasher.. Geeze the list goes on forever. Lot of good mentions above

08-Feb-06
Another vote for Kolpin Twisters. They planed so bad that they were about a foot off at 15-20 yards.

BR Stinger,

BB means "coned" or with a tip shaped like a cone. He always misspells it and we've given up on correcting him ;^)

By the way BB, "conned" is what happens to you when a con-man takes your money.

From: Harley Rider
14-Feb-06
Two Arrows makes good points. I would have to say most don’t tune properly and don’t pay a attention to FOC. Which is the reason fields points and Broadheads of the same weight hit different spots on the target. I personally have never found a BH that won’t fly perfect and hit where my field point's do.

“Pucketts Bloodtrailers. I had a cousin that used to shoot these broadheads and I must say they looked pretty sketchy.

punch cutters when the head was pushed back the blades pushed out then normally fell off”

I still have a package of these. Only used one 22yrs ago and it did work. But after hearing many nightmares about them not opening I put them down.

Thunderhead 125 3 blades have passed through dozens of deer for me. This year I gave Muzzy a shot. 3 blade and 4 blade 100gr. 3 deer with each head all pass throughs. 4 blade made a much bigger blood trail. Not needed since they drop in sight but a big hole it did make. I’ll be using these again come Sept 15 2007.

From: rabbit
14-Feb-06
"I see no reason to take a chance at something that MIGHT FAIL to do the job."

So what your saying is that you've quit bowhunting completely?

From: Matt
14-Feb-06
"Ok, now that some of you have your hackles up, let me ask you this. You got kids? You want the best and safest, foolproof protection for them in a car seat? Of course you do, if not, you are an idiot. You wouldn't skimp on something as important as your kids, would you?"

If you really care about your kids, you wouldn't knowingly subject them to the #1 cause of death for children (automobile accidents) by taking them in a vehicle, would you? And if you were, you would of course select only the vehicle with the highest overall safety rating? And you of course wouldn't let your child ride in any other model due to the elevated risk of injury? And you of course would only travel at the times of day where statistcially there are fewer accidents?

Or do you understand that there are reasonable and acceptable levels of risk that we take on in our everday lives? So to is the case with mechanical BH's.

From: Ia .Hawkeye
14-Feb-06
Nice try Matt. Car Accidents do happen and we do (or should) use the best protective equipment available to protect our selves and our kids. Therefore, we, as serious ethical hunters, should use the most reliable. ethical,humane broadheads possible when hunting. Mechcanicals certainly do not fulfill that critera ! Why take an avoidable risk ? Most of us can't avoid riding in cars, but we can certainly choose a bh that is less prone to failure !!!

From: Matt
14-Feb-06
"Car Accidents do happen and we do (or should) use the best protective equipment available to protect our selves and our kids."

So I assume you drive a Volvo? Or did you take other criteria beyond safety into consideration and make what you deemed a reasonable compramise with respect to safety when buying a vehicle?

It is all fun to generalize about such things, but pragmatically speaking I don't think you could find much quantitative support for your contention. Moreover, the aspusrions cast by Two Arrows are largely unfounded, as there are many instances that IMO mechanical BH's are a better choice than fixed for reasons that have nothing to do with tuning.

From: Sully
14-Feb-06
Red Fury

From: NoLuck
14-Feb-06
The original razorbak 5's were terrible along with the punchcutters. I actually found 5 deer with punch cutters stuck in thier chest with no blood trails. Not from me, but from other hunters on public land.

From: Pinwheel 12
14-Feb-06
Punchcutters. Worst I ever used bar none. Pucketts I actually killed a nice hog with, and a decent buck too, tho I don't think you could ever call them a "favorite". oh yeah, fixed blade Anderson 245's planed like nothing else on the market too, couldn't tune them if you tried.

From: Andy
14-Feb-06
Two Arrows,

Using traditional equiptment, I definitly wouldnt reccomend using mechs. You dont shoot a compound with all them confusing moving parts, do ya ? Or a drop away rest? Or a release?

Mechs have gotten a bad rap because of some bad designs, but that doesnt make them all bad. Look at the list above, there are many fixed heads that were just as bad as the bad mechs.

I shoot both fixed and mechs, both fly great out of my bow. I have come to realize that a bad shot is a bad shot no matter what head is used. A kill shot is a kill shot with either head.. With todays KE and a good broadhead of either style, Most shot failures are caused by the user and not the head.

Andy

14-Feb-06
Satellites and Muzzy

From: Matt
14-Feb-06
"Mechs have gotten a bad rap because of some bad designs, but that doesnt make them all bad."

And inappropriate use.

From: sticksender
14-Feb-06
"I personally have never found a BH that won’t fly perfect and hit where my field point's do."

Then you probably haven't shot original 180 grain Rothaar Snuffers glued to swaged aluminum shafts out of a hard 2-cam compound at 83 lbs. Those didn't fly too well, even with 5 inch helical vanes. But they do make a heluva mean hissing sound.

From: ELKAHOLIC
14-Feb-06
The Jimmy Houston signature series. Guaranteed to kill all half dead deer the rest of the way.

From: redneck
14-Feb-06
recurve they may look cheap but they shoot great their what i use now

From: Phil J.
15-Feb-06
Another vote for the old Wasp three blades, I could've taped a rock to the front of my arrows and they would've flown better than those dang things.

From: Quail
15-Feb-06
What's the name of that "broadhead" that had a long ribbon of very thin spring steel as the cutting edge to flex around bone?

From: Ground Check
15-Feb-06
I shoot 100 gr. Thunder heads, but I am considering changing to a muzzy head because my thunder heads kick the blades so bad. I have heard muzzy has a better locking system.

From: JayG@work
15-Feb-06
Muzzys,, I shot them for a couple years, I got some good practice on my bloodtrailing skills. Even with good hits, I think my closest drop from where I shot was 150 yards. The same hits with Spitfires, 50-100 yards.. Check out the Bad to the Bone videos.. They trail thier animals for 200-400 yards.. I'm too lazy for that. I like watching them drop. Jay

From: 3L_Archer
15-Feb-06
The one I made from a piece of flint.

From: Two Arrows
16-Feb-06
Andy,

Thanks for your concern. I too, shoot traditional. My Bob Lee Bicentennial, my two Fedora 560's and my Chek-Mate Hunter II do not require the items that you have listed. Neither does my Hoyt Cybertech, as I have made that as simple as can be.

A mechanical broadhead serves what purpose other than ease of tuning? In my opinion, it's a lazy man's way out. But, then again, why should I be surprised in this day and age.

From: rabbit
16-Feb-06
"A mechanical broadhead serves what purpose other than ease of tuning? In my opinion, it's a lazy man's way out."

I'll answer that. Two primary reasons. First, a mech head has a much smaller overall profile with it's blades folded in the ferrul. No matter how well a fixed broadhead is tuned, it will never fly as true as an equally weighted mechanical in windy conditions. The benefits here are largely realized at longer ranges(and high speeds) and are undeniable. That's been documented over the years BTW. Second, most mechs have larger cutting diameters. The obvious benefit here is on slightly misplaced shots where an extra 3/8" or more cutting diameter can make the difference between a wound and a kill. Of course some will argue: "just shoot straight and it won't matter" If you never make a bad shot, then they're right. Your right about one thing though, anyone who doesn't tune their bow is lazy.....and ignorant, I might add.

From: Pat C.
16-Feb-06
Andy Don't you see anyone that shoots a mech is a lazy man!! Well let me tell you somthing TWO ARROWS I shoot mechs and in the last 5 years every deer iv shoot went down. The longest iv had to track was 40yds, the closest went 10yds. Oh I guess I didn't have to track them I watched them drop from my stand!!So people and BHs are the same if you shoot mechs your a lasy man if you shoot fixed blades well you can tune a bow. I think that you need to wakeup. Pat C.

From: Pat C.
16-Feb-06
WW Were those the ones that looked like a cork screw. It must have 30 years ago the add had a pic of an apple corded out and the BH laying next them?? Man they looked cool but we tried to shoot them through a deer hid, barly penetrate talk about a flop!! Pat C.

From: Andy
16-Feb-06
Two Arrows,

I am not an expert on either hunting or bows. Alot of people on here have killed some magnificent animals that I can only dream about. I am always looking for any legal and ethical way to increase my chances of not only killing a deer but also recovering it. I have been reading bowsite posts for about 4 years and I have used alot of the equiptment and hunting knowledge I have learned about on here.

When I first started bowhunting I had no one to teach me about tuning a bow. I read and did the best I could. I could never get fixed to fly as true as mechs. Over the next couple of years I made some friends that taught me how to properly tune and setup my bow. My mechs and broadheads now group the same out to at least 40 yards.

But during those first couple of years I killed 4 does and one buck with the mechs. All shots pass thrus and all deer recovered. Since that time I have killed several deer, probaly between 15-20. Unfortunatly 2 of those deer I didnt recover, but it wasnt the fault of the broadheads. One was a bad shot and the other was bad shot selection. I have 3 hunting buddies that also shoot mechs, they average about 5 deer a year. None of them have ever had ahead failure.

Without calling me lazy explain to me why I should switch to strictly fixed. Dont just bash me and call me names. Explain to me the failures you have experienced firsthand with the broadhead I shoot. More moving parts isnt a good reason. I also know many of the deer shot were not full broadside so shot angle isnt a good reason either. Please dont generalize the mechs into one group. If you did that I could just pick out one of the bad heads posted about above and say fixed heads are junk too. I shoot a 2" vortex.

Last thing. I like mechs for wt deer, if the good Lord blesses me with an oppurtunity to hunt elk I probaly would use a a fixed head. Not because of head failure, but because it takes more ke to get a pass thru with a bigger cutting head. With deer, my bow and most newer compounds develop so much ke it is almost overkill for deer. I have no experience with elk so Ill take the advice of many experienced bow hunters on here and use a fixed head. I try to keep an open mind. You coming on here and calling me lazy doesnt improve me or you as a hunter or as a person. Explain why switching too fixed will make me a better hunter, Ill listen and may even switch. I shoot fixed on hog hunts so Im not stuck on mechs only. I just know on a well placed shot, my vortex leave a hole and blood trail that I havent seen a fixed head match. God Bless Andy

From: elkman
16-Feb-06
Andy, if your KE is above 60, you will have no problem killing elk with an expandable.

I have taken and videoed bulls shot with expandables, and they go down fast. I also shot my 7 year old bull buffalo with an expandable. Doing your homework and knowing your equipment capabilities is always a good thing!!

From: B4LITE
16-Feb-06
Rocket MiniBlaster for me. ahunter55, I'll you've got some good stories. Thanks for sharing that news clip.

From: Flatbow
16-Feb-06
Below are various heads that I picked up in clearance bins for dirt cheap (other than the satellites). While I wouldn't consider using any of them for big game, they are fine for small game

In no particular order;

The 3 blade bodkins with metal too soft to take and edge.

Razorback 5s with the rotating plastic cartridge.

Hilbres with the plastic ferrule.

Satellite 2 blade fixed 160 gr. (fall apart on impact).

Archery Visions Woodsmans which were eventually bought out and rebadged as 'Steel Force'. Having looked at the newer 'Steel Force" versions of these heads, I can't see that they've made any significant improvements on them.

With both these, and the Satellites, the blade separates from the ferrule upon the slightest impact. Even the Hilbres with the plastic ferrules hold together better than either of these heads.

From: Matt
16-Feb-06
"A mechanical broadhead serves what purpose other than ease of tuning? In my opinion, it's a lazy man's way out."

As mentioned, cutting diameter and reduced wind drft, not to mention they are more forgiving of poor form or a bad release which can be caused by shooting at the awkward positions which sometimes occur in the field.

Out of the 50+ critters I have killed with a bow, I can say I have never lost an animal due to a failure with a mechanical head. However, I can confidently say I have recovered animals hit with mechs that I don't think I would have recovered were I using a fixed blade with a typical cutting diameter.

Bottom line is that calling mechs a lazy man's way is much more a sohpomores attempt at discrediting a class of broadheads they have no practical experience with than the truth of the matter.

From: elkslayer
16-Feb-06
I have only soht muzzy (100gr. 3 blade). I do have one complaint -

I shot a cow elk last year and recovered the front half of the arrow. The muzzy had one blade that was bent about 45 degrees, but I still got a pass through. Arrow weight was 450 gr. out of a 70# bow.

I will second all posts regarding the old satellites - pure junk.

From: Pat C.
16-Feb-06
I don't know if you remember the bear two blades after AMF took over. They had a problem with folding over.Pat C.

From: TTbone
16-Feb-06
Rocket Steelheads.

From: Mr.Breeze
16-Feb-06
Browning Serpentine- the old corkscrew type. I used to think the Red Fury was the worst, but the other day I took a walk through the isle at Gander Mountain, and let me tell you there are some very irresponsible broadheads out there that are of similar design to that old junk...and some new inventions that are worse. The Super Hilbe had a chinsy blade and a plastic ferrule, but some of the new ideas have flimsy blades that rotate on a pin.

From: Two Arrows
17-Feb-06
Matt, I admit, maybe I shouldn't have used the word lazy, bad judgement on my part. Maybe I should have said that it is too easy to get into bowhunting because tuning a bow with mechs is alot easier than learning to get a fixed blade broadhead to fly correctly time and time again.

Fixed blades have a lower wounding potential than moving blades, in my opinion. Wouldn't you agree that a fixed blade broadhead would have more energy passing through the animal than a broadhead with moving parts? I guess I don't really know as I am a sohpomore (or is that a sophomore?) as you so describe. You can judge me by that in a post or two? If so, you really are as smart as you think you are.. I'll gladly put my hunting credentials and ethics against anybody's, anyday, with no hesitation.

Also, I am very curious to know, when in the world do you find time to sleep? With 50 critters to your credit (geez, slow down Elmer, a person of your stature and willingness to give advice should be at least triple of that. Hmmmm, never have seen the Wensel brothers push themselves off on people like you do) and your constant badgering of people on the Bowsite who are substandard to you according to your constant holier than thou attitude.

I'm not going to bicker about it anymore. If you shoot mechanicals, best of luck to you, your choice. But there is a better way.

From: Pinwheel 12
17-Feb-06
I gotta call BS on the mechanical/fixed debate as they both work extremely well out of correctly tuned equipment. I was a fixed blade fan for many years, and I sell and tune hundreds of bows every year so have a pretty good grip on the bowhunting industry what works/what does not as a whole. I've kept an open mind on mechnaicals since their inception and have tried many of them over the years. In the beginning the punchcutters and puckets were total cheese admittedly, and even tho I did take a few animals with each I wasn't disillusioned. But man have they come a long ways in the past decade or so--there are at least a half-dozen different mechanical heads that I would have no problem hunting with, anytime, anywhere. Their penetration and knockdown power easily rivals the best of the fixed blade heads, and anyone that cannot see that are simply stuck with their blind loyalty fixation that fixed blades work better and that's that. Fact is I have chosen the rocket steelheads for most serious hunts over the last three years and have never once had a critter go more than 60yds from the shot with them. I know others who have stated similar things about the Rocky Snypers. I still feel a fixed blade head is just as deadly when tuned correctly, but honestly no better IMHO-- I have found something that works supremely well in all applications and will continue to put my trust in them until they prove me wrong. Shoot what works best for you, but please toss the brand/design loyalty aside until you can produce undisputable proof that one works better than the other---becasue if you cannot it just serves to spread false accusation about a product that could in fact simply be getting a bad rap.

From: JTV
17-Feb-06
I agree with Pinwheel. With all the equipment I've sold and all the bowhunters I've delt with throught the years MOST have had good luck with Mech's. I'd put the Steelhead series up against any thing out there. The 125gr out penetrated the major fixed heads in a test done by Bill Winke a few years back. I've taken deer with Muzzy's/ Thunderheads/ Slicktricks and Rockets and I still like the Rockets in the Sidewinder series as my favorites, then come the Steelheads and then Slick Tricks. Just be sure your bow is tuned no matter what BH you decide on....Jeff

From: Quail
17-Feb-06
"Wouldn't you agree that a fixed blade broadhead would have more energy passing through the animal than a broadhead with moving parts?"

Doesn't that depend upon which fixed and which mechanical that you're comparing?

How much energy does it take to open a mechanical?

From: Matt
17-Feb-06
"Wouldn't you agree that a fixed blade broadhead would have more energy passing through the animal than a broadhead with moving parts?"

Generally speaking perhaps, but I don't think that reasoning is to the point. Most modern bows will generate far more energy than is needed for complete penetration on medium-sized game. Many folks simply chose to put that energy to use through a larger cutting diameter rather than waste it in the ground on the other side of the critter.

Moreover, the BH that I have seen win more independent penetration contests (rocket steelhead) is a mechanical however. This contradicts your assertion, hence my criticism above of speaking in generalizations on the issue.

"I guess I don't really know as I am a sohpomore (or is that a sophomore?) as you so describe. You can judge me by that in a post or two?"

I can judge in a post or two that you have little to no personal experience in the subject we are disucssing - mechanical broadheads.

"If so, you really are as smart as you think you are.. I'll gladly put my hunting credentials and ethics against anybody's, anyday, with no hesitation."

I have no doubt you are an accomplished bowhunter. Let's just compare notes on our mutual personal experiences with mechanical BH's (kill #'s, brands, successes, failures) and let the readers make an informed decision on the matter based on relevent data points.

From: rabbit
17-Feb-06
Well stated Pinwheel 12.

Like you, I've used and sold too many broadheads over the years to count. I've also examined literally hundreds of deer carcasses over the years killed with fixed and mechanical heads alike. The devastation caused by the larger cutting mechs has been unequaled by anything else I've seen. Simply said, the "punchcutter era" is precisely what gave mechs a stigma. Manufacturers have risen above it and we now have our choice of dozens of very high quality mech designs to choose from.

If more would do the necessary research with regards to the proper use of these great tools, these debates wouldn't exist. Too often people believe bogus secondhand "information" instead of making a logical and educated decisions for themselves. That is what I find truly "lazy".

From: reelman
17-Feb-06
Two Arrows, You said that you shoot traditional equipement. I assume byt traditional ayou mean either a recurve or long bow as "traditional" can be taken to mean different things by different people. If that's the case then your KE is probably a lot less than someone using a compound bow, if I was using a stick bow I to would use a fixed head.

You say that you try to take all the risks out of bowhunting, but you use a stick bow instead of a compund with sights so you are already putting in a lot of risk because your accuracy drops down considerably without sights. So you are risking a poorly placed shot more with your stick than a guy with a compound and sights.

LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!!

From: Pat C.
17-Feb-06
Hang on there reelman I have a friend that bulds self bows and ill put his shooting up aginst most guys with componds!!! He,s been shooting a bow of one kind or another over 40 years.Pat C.

From: white devil
17-Feb-06
MUZZYS!!!!!!!!!!

From: Pat C.
17-Feb-06
Hang on there reelman I have a friend that bulds self bows and ill put his shooting up aginst most guys with componds!!! He,s been shooting a bow of one kind or another over 40 years.Pat C.

From: reelman
18-Feb-06
PatC, You're on! I have seen many, many good stickbow shooters over the years and the best I have seen would rank right up there with a novice compound and sights guy. Go to any tournament you want and compare the scores of the stickbow to those of the compound and sights guys. There is no comparision and the stickbows generally shoot at closer stakes.

I realize that targets and hunting are not the same, but if you can't hit something when you are calm and collected you won't do any better in a hunting situation.

From: Bou'bound
27-Jul-08

From: MizzoukiSpot
27-Jul-08
rocket made a mechanical called the "meteorite" that was crap. Blades broke off at the base hitting foam.

From: Carpshooter
27-Jul-08
The ones that can't fine the vitals or at least get me a carcass in lest than 500 yards in the same day!

I prefer the new never been invented deer vital seeking broadhead,that should be the one to have!

Besides I'm with Reelman,Pat C tells a good story about someone we'll never see ,or ever heard of!

From: camoman73
27-Jul-08
NAP nitron. POS.

From: Westslope
27-Jul-08
Too lazy to read through all the post but the worst broadhead ever made was probably the punch cutter and one of the reasons expandables got a bad name.

From: ButchA
27-Jul-08
Worst broadhead?

I think it was a strange broadhead called a "Deadhead" made by Golden Key, back a number of years ago.

If I remember right, it had real radically offset blades on it. It flew all over the place, and never hit the same place twice. But yet, I could shoot field tips, Thunderheads, Stingers, Muzzy's, Wasps, ...any number of broadheads, and they'd be on target.

From: NYbob
27-Jul-08
Thumper, those old Pearson deadheads are the greatest!!

27-Jul-08
The old wasp heads with the carbon steel blades! Hunt in the rain once and watch them rust instantly. Hunted with them until I discovered thunderheads 20 years ago, I never changed since.

27-Jul-08
when you guys say old satellites, are you talkin 10 years ago, 20 years ago, i shot a couple of deer with the 4 blade titans in the late 90's, they seem to work fine, pass throughs, blades intact, still have a few left, but mainly use muzzys now

From: B&C
27-Jul-08
MUZZY they never shot out of my bow.

From: TradTech
27-Jul-08
Satellite - paper thin blades desintigrated upon impact.

From: overbo
27-Jul-08
My roommate had a cousin that put together those PUCKSH&^$%T'S and I shot several animals w/ a 70lbs compound shooting 2216's.Only thing those heads passed thru was a gut shot fox.Almost every deer I shot w/ those head I would find the arro w/in 100yrds w/ half the shaft covered in blood. I to have been on several long bloodtrails w/ Muzzy shot deer but there are many heads far worse than them.

From: TXHunter
27-Jul-08
Chris- I'm with you because I killed several deer with Satellite Titans in the '90s too. Seemed to work well and, like you, I still have a few....

From: Jay (InOz).
28-Jul-08
I'd like to have one of every head mentioned in this thread in a display case:) The worst heads for sale where I live are those soft three blade bodkins. I've seen twelve year old kids walk out of the store carrying thirty one inch shafts spined at ninety, fitted with bodkins. Should be illegal. I hunt with stone only- even for fish. Most fly real well and the blades never fall off:) Jay (InOz).

From: Bigpizzaman
28-Jul-08
Buckblasters 31/2" cut screw them on and you would have a "wonderarrow", wonder where in the hell you would hit your deer!

From: Pat Lefemine
28-Jul-08
Shotgun head. I have one of these. If I get a chance I'll upload a picture. It has nails and an explosive charge which shoots the nails into a deer. It's quite ridiculous and is now a collectors item, however lots of guys have them, including me.

From: Packrat
28-Jul-08
Red Fury

From: Packrat
28-Jul-08
Red Fury

From: chip
28-Jul-08
Super Hilbre- The super part is a joke. First head I ever used back in the 60's. Plastic furrel and blades that you could not sharpen because they almost touched the plastic. Really did not matter much then as I saw no deer and never shot one at an animal.

From: pumatagger
28-Jul-08
Super Hilbre - Killed a deer with the very first one I launched at a live animal. Good for only one shot in the "rocky" mountain west. If I recall correctly they cost about $3 apiece in 1965 (that is about $20 today). Could not really afford to shoot one at a target, but "mystical" would describe the flight of my arrows out of my old 45# Bear Kodiak.

From: Skip
28-Jul-08
Is anyone keepinfg score for a fianl tally of the worst ever broadheads?

my vote: 1) Pucketts bloodtrailer 2) Satellite titan 3) Rocket ultimate steel

From: IaHawkeye
28-Jul-08
They been mentioned said before, but The Browning serpetine , the super Hilbre, and the first Sattilites, were the worst BH I remember.

Some of you guys need to take your personal arguments to private messages.

From: Sixby
28-Jul-08
T wo heads that absolutely do not belong on this list are Muzzys and Deadheads. I have killed a lot of animals and seen a lot more killed with both. They are two of the very best not of the very worst.

Worst all time head, Browning Serpentine by far.

Second, Sattelite, Third Hilbre fourth, SAvora

I killed a couple of animals with the Wasp 6 blade,. So what if you blow off a couple of blades LOL Talk about damage. Those heads would bleed an animal out if you hit it in the hoof. They punched a half dollar size hole. I think I still have one in my old tackle box., I have a couple of serpentines and some old Deadheads too. Wish I still had the Deadheads to shoot.

From: Bigdan
28-Jul-08
Hoyt Bow Bullets the ferrl blasts there the blades when you hit any bone I found a dead bull with an arrow in it it had a hoyt in it and I called in a nice 6x6 and killed him and he had the blades off a bow bullet in his sholder same guy had a bad week I gess.

28-Jul-08
The one that finds the sapling between you and that big bull.....

From: YoungBuck187
28-Jul-08
muzzy mx4... fly terrible unless you tune them for weeks

From: mark land
28-Jul-08
I have to agree Sixby, if you cannot get a Muzzy to fly on your bow, then you have more problems then what broadhead you are shooting! I have not had a bow in my hand I could not get any of the Muzzys to shoot and group out of, maybe not always in the same spot as the field pts but always grouping and flying very well. I think the biggest problem most people have when shooting any fixed blade head is not using helical fletching to stabilize the arrow and relying on someone else to set up and tune their equipment. Sometimes they do it right, most of the time, especially close to season when it is very busy, they do not. Best thing you can do is learn how to tune and work on your own equipment and you should not have problems with your broadheads. Mark

28-Jul-08
I agree with TWO ARROWS. Any expandable is the worst in my opinion.

From: white devil
28-Jul-08
still say muzzys.

From: TD
28-Jul-08
Never had a Muzzy (4 blade 130) fail me and mine fly like darts. I'd go so far as to say they're one of the best out there for the money. I don't know how many animals I've taken with them over the years, 100 or more with the muzzy wouldn't be an exaggeration.

I also agree with Mark, folks need to do more than rely on the bowshop to paper tune (or less) and call it tuned. IMO a bowshop just flat can't tune YOUR bow. They can get it in the ballpark, but the shooter has to finish the job. A set of allen wrenches is usually all it takes. All my FBBH hit with my FP out to 30 yards or so, the extra drag starts to change things farther downrange. No reason they should hit left or right, that's for sure.

Thanks Bou. What do you do for kicks at at weddings and funerals? LOL!

29-Jul-08
Had to be the first satelites that were purple and 4 bladed and I had a friend shoot an elk in the heart, all four blades were in the hide and ribs, the only reason the elk died was the arrow was stuck through his heart. after that it has to be puckets.

From: matthews man
29-Jul-08
Rocket sidewinders, Shot three deer with them and on two of the deer only one blade deployed, but it broke so it didn't really count

From: hans-3764
29-Jul-08
I'd post my least favorite but im tired of the "rage fanclub"

From: thesquid
29-Jul-08
Wasp - This thing had nothing but a field tip with three injecter razer blades that broke off at the hide. I also had a piece of junk that was an expand on contact that came out early in the expandable faze, more than twenty years ago, don't remember the name but have never used another expandable since. For myself only well built COC like the snuffer.

From: MBM
29-Jul-08
Sattalites, Koplin Twister, and the Hoyt Bow Bullets.

From: Burt
29-Jul-08
Definitely agree with the Koplin Twister and Razorback 5, both total junk. In late 80's there was also a 4 blade fixed head that looked just like today's Muzzy Phantoms, but was made with real thin carbon steel blades painted black attached to a brass ferrule. Main blade curled and seperated just under the hide, second blade bent flat against side of shaft. Was some truly awful junk being promoted at that time (don't get me started on the overdraw craze and exploder bows).

From: papashakey
03-Nov-10
WOW! I can't believe anyone doesn't like the Serpentine. I had three for years, then lost them sometime during a move and never found them again. They not only penetrated extremely well, they had fantastic knockdown power, and I also had no trouble sharpening them. I wish they were still on the market, but all I can find these days are priced WAY out of my range.

From: flyingbrass
03-Nov-10
Puckets Bloodtrailer, boy was that an understatement. Only thing we did was blood trail, hardly ever found a deer. For those of you that don't remember they were one of the first mechanical heads. Sorry to say the least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: stagetek
04-Nov-10
Super Hilbres. Browning Serpentine. And, the old green Wasps. The 6 blade version would hardly penetrate the hide !

From: mtnman
04-Nov-10
anyone remember gold tip expandables w/ the plastic ferrule? strong until you hit something

From: AZOnecam
04-Nov-10
Man with the responses here, I'm really quite surprised. When I first started bowhunting, equipment was crap. If you were buying "middle road" broadheads, they were Satellite broadheads. I still have some around - total junk. But if you were in a small town, that's all you had unless you wanted to plunk down - gasp - $30 dollars for 6 Thunderheads.

Funny how things have turned. To hear that even now people are trashing Muzzy's - that's hard to swallow. I've shot pretty much everything out there excluding some of the "exotic" crap, like Atoms or crimson traial anything.

G5 montecs, strikers and t2/3 are all solid, Magnus stingers and snuffers, older Vortex, pretty much anything Muzzy, Rage, Slick Tricks...

Man, it's hard to find a crap point these days, but the old Satellite broaheads that you used to pick up for $8 for 3, or anything with the twising heads like crimpson talon is puking out...

You can find a handfull of crap broadhead if you really work at it. Any Walmart store has them sitting right next to what I consider one of the best heads out there. Muzzy 100's have probably dropped more deer and elk in there tracks than a lot of others combined.

Shoot them all, if you can tune your bow, just about any BH will work. I watched a coues buck crumple in 25 yards last year, followed by a muley hit "less than perfect" a week later fold at around 80 yards with 100 grain Muzzy. Both spewed blood on everything in sight, and both made for good eating.

I'd shoot magnus, G5, Slick Tricks, Rage, lots of heads, but I'd put muzzy against any of them for lethality on game. JMO.

From: GaryDowdy
04-Nov-10
Muzzy? You people are out of your mind! I've taken deer and tons (literally) of hogs without a single failure.

Browning Serpentine

04-Nov-10
Some guy up at the top.....Feb 06....mentioned the MA-3. Obviously, he's never used 'em. I have been using those heads for over 30 years. Damn near indestructible, yet easy to sharpen. One year, shot an MA into a cinder block, just to prove a point to a friend. No damage to the head, resharpened the tip, and that same arrow went back into the quiver. I used to pay $.50 apiece for 'em. Now, they're up to 2 bucks or so. What is this country coming to? LOL!

From: Extreme
04-Nov-10
I dont remember the name for sure the blades are bent funny I think they were called Rocky Mountain Twisters

04-Nov-10
Okay everyone who mentioned muzzys as one of the worst broadheads of all time most have not used them correctly. ive never seen or experienced any of the problems mentioned with muzzys that people are saying they have. if you use them correctly the blades cannot fall out. Ive killed 2 deer and a fox with them myself this season and neither deer went more than 40 yards and the fox went all of about 20 feet. they are pretty good broadheads

From: Beendare
04-Nov-10
Dang, this thread was dredged up from the bowels of this site.

Yeah Mtnman, those 80's goldtips with the "Spaceage plastic" ferrules were a joke.

Never shot them myself, but a shop owner buddy got some for free and found out the hard way

04-Nov-10
the one that misses

From: HUNTR4477
04-Nov-10
I remember those old super Hilbres! i thought they were so cool because the points were so sharp compared to the bear razorheads with the chisel point.Back when I was starting(late 60s-early70s)those are the only two choices my bow shop sold.

From: HUNTR4477
04-Nov-10
Worst combination ever-the Super Hilbre head on one of those old fiberglass shafts(i don't even recall who made them).If you hit a stray branch on the way to your target, you'd find your arrow shaped like an "S".And there was no way to straighten them!

From: Kawabunga
04-Nov-10
Started out with Bloodtrailers for a lot of the wrong reasons people uses mechs today, no realeases back then so tuning was tough if you were just starting out. Killed a few animals with them, had the ferule buldge, the cutting diameter was small, the point was blunt, and the blades were "cute". At least the arrows were super heavy back then.

Remember the Hoyt Chuck It or something like that, looked nasty but probabally didn't penetrate very well, and yeah those plastic ferruled heads were sketchy too. I remember those Delma ma3s too, pretty solid head but I didn't know how to sharpen a sharp knife back then, he,he.

Don't know why Muzzys made the list either, they've been great heads for a long time, not the thickest blades but the way they locked made for a strong ferule IMO.

From: elkmtngear
04-Nov-10

elkmtngear's Link
The old 3-blade Wasps flew like crap...but I did manage to wing a few of them into the boiler rooms of some nice deer.

That was 20 years ago, before the idea of "tuning your gear" ever entered my brain.

These days, I like the fixed blades that are solidly built.

Best of Luck, Jeff (Bowsite Sponsor)

From: HUNTR4477
04-Nov-10
Ladderstand,I remember those. I cant recall the name but they used to run a full page ad in several hunting magazines. Only remember them being advertised for a year or two. I ALMOST ordered some,but changed my mind thankfully.

From: Gus
04-Nov-10
old wasp heads with the metal rings that you had to align to put the blades in. the rings would always would give out and let the blades slide out on impact. couple of hogs were killed with the tip of the broadhead only cuz the blades were left in the hide on impact. so to answer the question, "can a field tip kill and animial", yes it can if placed in the right spot.

From: Mt. man
04-Nov-10
RAGE......enough said....:-)

From: x-man
04-Nov-10
Satalites were bad, but I think Allen made a "copy" of the Satalites that was even worse.

From: Rando101
04-Nov-10
Slick Tricks...I lost a doe with the 100 Mag this year. I'm switching to RAGE.

Not!!! I am going to be completely honest. I made a terrible shot. It was a litle too late and I made a bad judgement call to take the shot. I thought the deer was broadside to slightly quartering away, but as my 294 fps arrow made impact right in front of the hindquarters, I saw that the deer was quartering fairly hard to me and it wheeled even harder toward me when I shot. This was completely my fault and I take 100 % responsibility.

I came back the next morning and did pick up a muscle type blood trail for around 300 yds until it crossed a highway. I lost the trail in the ditch as it crossed off of my property on to an Expressed "No Tresspassing Property". Would I have recovered this animal with a large cut mechanical. Maybe, but I don't think it is likely, as it probably would have still made it across that highway.

From: BCB
04-Nov-10
Rage

From: HUNTR4477
04-Nov-10
Ladderstand,The arrows with the scored "break off" aluminum shafts were called Shear Advantage.

From: JoeBowhunter
04-Nov-10
Razorback 5 blade. I got introduced to bowhunting using them and thought they were so cool. Thinking about them now.....they were junk.

From: archery1
04-Nov-10
Kolpin twisters. I shot a deer and the blades were all layed down flat. After last week I will have to add rage to my list. Back to muzzys for me. I have shot them for the last 15 years and they have never failed me .

From: archery1
04-Nov-10
Kolpin twisters. I shot a deer and the blades were all layed down flat. After last week I will have to add rage to my list. Back to muzzys for me. I have shot them for the last 15 years and they have never failed me .

04-Nov-10
Hoyt Bow Bullits

From: Scooter
04-Nov-10
Definetly the ones made by NERF..just bounced off the deer

From: bowwild
04-Nov-10
Interesting thread. Before I opened it I was ready to nominate the Browning Serpentine, Green Wasp, and the Satellite. That old satellite also had a nasty habit of geting stuck in your arrow shaft--to soft threads.

Two comments on a couple that were nominated. I killed the first live deer I ever saw when I was 16 years old in 1969 with a Pearson Deadhead. Frankly, I think the Silver Flames remind me a lot (although much higher quality) of the deadheads.

In 2007 I killed a whitetail deer and a 225 boar with the Atom. Those titanium blades really do cut flesh and blood vessels very well and are supposed to slip around bone without deflecting. I hit the perfectly wrong -- right in the shoulder plate. The deer went 40 yards and the hog went 70.

From: Bou'bound
04-Nov-10
the atom

From: ericolson
04-Nov-10
I find it interesting that the worst broadhead for one person is the best for another.

For me: Best is the Atom.

Worst: Allan Lightning 125. Shot these when I started out on a tight budget. I couldn't get it to tune for crap and the blades bent going through the foam target.

From: Skip
04-Nov-10
Worst: Puckett's bloodtrailer next: Satellite Titans

From: Skip
04-Nov-10
Worst: Puckett's bloodtrailer next: Satellite Titans

From: Phydous
05-Nov-10

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Sonic. A few years ago a salesman talked me into buying a package. First shot into a foam target one of the blades pushed back through the collar. I took them back to sportsman's and they replaced the whole package for new ones. I took a new one out of the package, shot it into my foam target and the exact same thing happened. 2 for 2. I'd never shoot them at a deer.

Another vote for Satellite as well.

From: Treefarm
26-Apr-19
Bringing it back! New broadheads keep coming out promising to be the best. The reality is, there are just so many ways you can cut a P&J sandwich. Funny to hear why people think “their” broadhead is best. And let’s not forget the damning of broadhead “X” because an animal was lost.

Marketing sure sells!!

From: ELKMAN
27-Apr-19
From WAAAAY back. LMAO

From: Dale06
27-Apr-19
Plenty of bad ones in the old days. We’ve come a long way. Currently, I’d vote worst for Toxic.

27-Apr-19
Rubber blunt

From: Jaquomo
27-Apr-19
Most interesting thing about this thread is in how many of the posters are GONE. Like, guys who used to post regularly and vociferously. Wonder if they still lurk?

From: M.Pauls
27-Apr-19
Jaquamo, I found the same, I was just scanning through the handles

27-Apr-19
Lou, Matt... that's the first thing I did. I looked at a few names under handles to see if they have changed handles currently. Didn't see many.

I remember Wary Buck (Bryce Lambley) used to post a lot. Noticed beendare, x-man, Mt. man, Matt and others still post. A bunch that you don't see around anymore.

From: Beendare
27-Apr-19
Dredged again.

We need someone to find one of those old Gold Tips and pass it around....then tell me it ain't the worst piece of junk BH you have ever seen.

Yep, Gold Tip...same company as today....when they couldn't make a decent BH...they went into arrows /grin

Screw on one of those old gold tip heads, and you could flex the tip from side to side with the cheap plastic ferrule. They essentially exploded when you hit an animal....I guess the idea was that the dislodged blades would act as shrapnel!?

Understandably, they didn't last long...circa late 80's early 90's I think.

From: 3arrows
27-Apr-19
The only one i could not get for Bowhunter Education,because the owner told me they were junk. Mohawk made in Ohio.

From: Forest bows
27-Apr-19
The only broadhead that has ever failed me is a cut on contact muzzy. My son and I brought them to Africa shooting 75 lb full metal jackets 500 grain arrows and the tips were bending over blunt when they were hitting the animals.

From: stagetek
28-Apr-19
6 blade Wasp. Super Hilbre's and Browning Sepentines.

From: Buffalo1
28-Apr-19
The handles were the first thing I looked at when I saw the thread start date was 06. Several post no more and I too wonder if they just lurk?

From: elk yinzer
28-Apr-19
There certainly are some horrendous modern designs...the fact that anything could be worse than knapped flint, I'm not sure what that says about the human condition.

28-Apr-19
NAP bloodrunner two blade. the ones that expanded when they hit the tartget. damn things flew like a bent paper airplane and most of them broke the first time i shot them into my block target. sent them back and got a refund, total crap.

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