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ELK Knee Rebuild
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Contributors to this thread:
GregE 17-May-10
Happy Jack 17-May-10
Clutch 17-May-10
ElkNut1 17-May-10
Follmerpa 17-May-10
bill brown 17-May-10
GregE 19-May-10
No Bark 19-May-10
fnshtr 19-May-10
jordanathome 19-May-10
Clutch 19-May-10
Forager 20-May-10
DL 20-May-10
twojump 20-May-10
bad karma 20-May-10
e butler 21-May-10
goyt 22-May-10
elknuts2 22-May-10
GregE 22-May-10
GregE 22-May-10
Allegiance_Freak 23-May-10
goyt 23-May-10
twojump 24-May-10
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GregE 30-May-10
JERSEY BOB 30-May-10
GregE 30-May-10
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GregE 31-May-10
dino 31-May-10
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GregE 08-Jun-10
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GregE 05-Apr-19
Scar Finga 05-Apr-19
lewis 06-Apr-19
DL 06-Apr-19
caller79065 19-Apr-19
midwest 19-Apr-19
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WV Mountaineer 19-Apr-19
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Boris 20-Apr-19
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From: GregE
17-May-10
That's what I'm hoping for.

The Back is doing well, but I've not been able to exercise as much as i need due to the knee that's been bone on bone for 30 years. Going to the hospital at 10 Monday the 17th and should be released Thursday. Hopefully the grating and pain in my left knee will be a thing of the past and with proper PT September in Colorado will be memorable.

Greg

From: Happy Jack
17-May-10
Greg, hope it goes well. I am amazed at how well some friends and family have done after this surgery. All the best! HJ

From: Clutch
17-May-10
I had a total knee replacement last July--The first two weeks were brutal and every day after that was great improvement---Do your PT and do more then what they ask for---I was suppose to stay 6 weeks but only did five---In two plus months I was climbing trees with a climber not a walker--(:^)---I was and still am very cautious with my every step--Went to AZ in Jan and did some climbing in the mountains looking for Coues---You won't have any regrets--good luck and PM me if you like

From: ElkNut1
17-May-10

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Good luck to you Greg! I certainly wish you the best!

ElkNut1

From: Follmerpa
17-May-10
Good luck keep us posted on Whats happening, and how your recovery is. I am 45 and over weight to boot, my right knee is bone on bone, getting by with Cortizone shots, Doc says lose 130 lbs. and I should be able to put off surgery for 10 years or more.

paul

From: bill brown
17-May-10
Good luck, Greg.

From: GregE
19-May-10
Just got home and on the Posturpedic mattress. A little nauseus so details will have to wait. Surgery went well- recovery is more challenging than I thought.

G

From: No Bark
19-May-10
Great to hear old man! Up in the mtns in no time,,yes!

From: fnshtr
19-May-10
Good to hear you are through that part. Hang in there and start improving.

Prayers for a full and quick recovery!

From: jordanathome
19-May-10
Get well (elk) Soon!!!!

From: Clutch
19-May-10
Exercise-excercise-exercise--Good luck

From: Forager
20-May-10
Best of luck GregE

From: DL
20-May-10
I had my left one done five years ago. You will look back in a short time and be standing there and realize you have NO pain in that joint. It will be worth it. I love mine, just wish I had two.

From: twojump
20-May-10
Did you get a complete rebuild? What is the recovery time on that... I have to do the same thing pretty soon! 46 and wore out already...

Good Luck man!

From: bad karma
20-May-10
Greg, good luck in your recovery.

From: e butler
21-May-10
Good luck with the knee I had two knee surgeries in 2008 and one in 2009 and still went elk hunting in Idaho.The first one was five days before I left for my elk hunt. I didnt get to hunt much but I did get to enjoy the views and call a big 6x6 in for my buddy that he shot at 12 yards, first elk also.Surgery 1 ACL and miniscus tear replaced,2nd joint cleaned out and and miniscus flap fixed.3rd PCL ligament replaced.I ended up tearing ACL,PCL,MCL,AND MINISCUS so with all that I still went elk hunting and I am a big guy that can afford to loose about 60 lbs. Good luck and GET WELL.

From: goyt
22-May-10
I have had two partial knee replacements. The right knee was done on 12/6/2009 and the left was done 2/12/2010. The Mako system was used. The bottom of the thigh bone received an insert and the bottom of the knee cap was replaced in both cases. I was bone on bone on both knees. All of that pain is now gone. I am walking over 5 miles a day now. My knee caps use to be off to the side due to wear and they now are in the middle. The soft tissue has not adjusted yet so they get sore. It is improving and I expect to be completely recovered in another 3-6 months. It worked great for me.

From: elknuts2
22-May-10
You're going to be doing great! My 70 year old mother just had total knee replacement about 12 days ago, and she's been walking around like nothing was done for the last 5 days. The only thing different is that now, she doesn' limp like she did. She actually told me she wishes she'd done it years ago.

Get it fixed, do your rehab and enjoy a great elk season in September.

From: GregE
22-May-10
Finda good PT Tech that will communicate the goals and needs- I'm spending hours trying to get the Continuous Motion Machine set. Pain meds help wuth tolerating paiun but not programming!!

From: GregE
22-May-10
Posting UI is illegal in most states 8^)

23-May-10
I had 2 total knee replacements 2 years ago and it did not turn out that great. I have been living on pain pilss for the last 2 years and now I go see the surgeon in about 10 days to have a pump implanted to feed drugs due to no pills working at all.

Both knee caps are out of wack but not enough for them to redo them at this time. Went and seen 2 other quacks and they said the same thing. The reason they say is that they have to remove even more bone and that could end up creating more issues than I am dealing with now.

Hope your surgery goes better than mine.

Good luck

From: goyt
23-May-10
Mike, sorry to hear about your experience. It is so unfortunate that these things happen. As I indicated above I had two partial replacements on different dates. The surgeons did a good job each time but the pain control guy screwed up on the nerve blocks the second time. I woke up with nothing to control pain at all. For 4 days it was just aweful. My stomach stopped working and my wife who is an RN was scared that I might die. My daughter called my son and told him that he should call me in case I passed away. Everyone involved except the surgeons and one nurse were running for cover because they did not want to be sued. Unfortunately the surgeons and the nurse were not pain control experts. Finally I just got off of the hard narcotics, accepted what ever relief vicoden could give me and recovered. At least once I passed out from the pain.

Fortunately the surgeons did a good job so for me it is just a bad memory.

From: twojump
24-May-10
Man goyt... that sounds bad!

I go back to my surgeon this week to see what else can be done... I had ACL replacement 10 yrs ago and now it just has bad arthritis and bone spurs...

My Doc says if I don't respond to PT, then I need replacement.... but I'm afraid to do it right now because of the threat of missing the hunting season...

So far I'm just trying to live with it!

24-May-10
My knees are a wreck! They put a Uni Spacer in one about 7 years ago and the other one is bone on bone.

But as long as the cortozone injections work, they aren't using a knife on me again. I only require a couple of injections a year. And I generally get one in both knees right before archery season weather I need it or not, just in antisapation of the pounding I'm going to put on them.

24-May-10
Mine were bone on bone for about 9 years. I have numerous surgeries to keep me going until I hit 50 but that did not work. I ended up with some panly bone spurs that woth te MRI you could not tell ow many there actually were on each knee.

That was the last straw had them replaced at the ripe age of 46!!!

From: twojump
25-May-10
PT seems to be helping, but I think I will need cortozone injections pretty soon!

From: GregE
30-May-10

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We went to the gym this afternoon and I walked a 1/4 miles when i got home- first time down the driveway and back. I'm below my pre-op weight even with nearly 5# of appliance in place.

The staples are still in place with little irritation and the suture line is clean with very little drainage early on. Yet the follow up DR appointment is next Tuesday and being able to 'sweep' the subdural lumph fluid to reduce swelling is difficult to do with staples.

The PT staff offered to set me up with a 'magic tape" set up that stretches in two directions. Additionally the adhesive is put on in a wavey patterns the the pressure lines change with motion. It was developed by the Olympic trainers to reduce friction over training injuries and worked so well you'll often see it under the speed swimmer 'suits'.

This evening we were watching Truth 13 High Country Bulls DVD that I've been saving. I'll make a seperate critique later but my knee started aching with sharp nerve ' jangles' in the surrounding muscles. Definately over did it today and will take it easy Sunday and hopefully be able to finish the ELK video in comfort. ;)

From: JERSEY BOB
30-May-10
FYI that "magic tape" sounds like the KT TAPE I am now using on my shoulder. I heard about it here on Bowsite. Look it up for further down the road: KTTAPE.COM

Best of luck!

From: GregE
30-May-10
Yep, that's remarkable stuff, ONe way stretch- not two. The knee cap relief pattern is the only one I've used, but i plan on having a roll in the medic bag in ELK camp and more back in the truck.

Taking it easy today- overdid it big time yesterday and paying for it today and last night.

G

From: GregE
30-May-10

GregE's Link
Interesting instructional videos on the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVtUOTViE6Y&feature=player_embedded

From: JERSEY BOB
30-May-10
KT TAPE IS GREAT!

Mind you, I have bursitis, and the application I use is "general shoulder paint"....I hit the range today; I'd been babying myself with an old Hoyt I'd turned down to 58#. I realized "Africa is RIGHT around the corner" (leave 7/1) so I took my Diamond out and starting ramping it up with KTTAPE on my arm, some ibuprofen, and some warmup with latex rubber stretches from Target.

I got the Diamond back to 65#, and starting working back on the Guardian (dual cam) at 68#. So far, so good.

I felt good enough when I got home to mow about 1/2 acre, weedwack, blow, and self medicate with a Fosters.

Keep your spirits up, and lets hear more about that knee--I'm behind you in a few years!

Bob

From: DL
31-May-10
I hope you're taking some pain killers when you watch that 13 DVD. I could have used some.LOL

From: GregE
31-May-10
DL You are right!!!!l There were some real dumb segments- The muscle bound nut shooting the fire nock and hitting many yards short comes first to mind.

Bob, wish I'd known about the tape years ago. I've used knee braces for softball and hunting that helped stabilize the blown joint. The granulation pain under the knee cap should be lessoned with the tape.

From: dino
31-May-10
Good luck with that knee Greg! Thanks so much for sharing. I didn't realise that so many others had knee troubles until I did. My GP tells me that sometime in my lifetime I'll knee-d a replacement too. :) I had OA in it at 39. Doesn't hurt, but gets really stiff. I hope you're ready for your elk hunt come fall.

From: GregE
06-Jun-10
Dino, you are correct. Since i started researching this procedure about 3 years ago I've heard a LOT of 'Me Too' comments.

The good thing is most are happy with the outcome and for the few who've had problems medical technology has taken care of whatever it was.

Bandaid found out she had to get a knee replaced and they wanted to do hers first- but she was prepared for orthoscopy- not replacment. That is a big difference in the metal preparedness process.

How's your readiness?

06-Jun-10
I heard of alot of old timers doing this but always thought it was just a bunch of hog wash. Also heard it would take the itch out of insect bites.

So, last night, after a flea had biten me on my knee, I got out a can of WD-40 and sprayed it down.

Gee!!!!!!! The itch is gone and my knee is limber and has no pain today. Who would have thought!!!!!!

I don't think I do it on an open wound like you have though.

From: GregE
08-Jun-10
Last week range of motion was measured at 110 degrees with a goal of 130 by next month. Strengthening is coming along - seems slow but I need to build from the base up so I'll follow the PT plan

Ran the tractor brush hogging weeds a couple hours yesterday then walked two miles. I was on the CPM machine about 5 hours last night

The knee is talking to me this AM but I weighed in at 197# A new low since the early 80s

Meeting with my hunting buddies later this week to discuss CO. 8^)

From: DL
28-Jun-10
Greg how'a that knee doing?

From: GregE
05-Apr-19

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....with a little help from my friends!!
GregE's embedded Photo
....with a little help from my friends!!

GregE's Link
Wow, I didn't follow up on this?? With help from my hunting buddies we went to Colorado with camp at 8500'. Pictures and full story at the link

www.sagecreekforums.com/phpforum/viewtopic.php?t=10649&highlight=

I had the other knee done in 2013 and part of it re-done later as the top half was working loose. Knees are doing well now- the back fusion is a real bother trying to pick things up or turning. Getting old isn't for sissies ;)

G

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From: Scar Finga
05-Apr-19
Prayers for a quick and full recovery!

God Bless,

Scar

From: lewis
06-Apr-19
Good luck to you sir I’m 72 and will be getting my knees done this year now recovering from sinus surgery that took over 3 hours Lewis

From: DL
06-Apr-19
Had my second knee knee replaced at 62 in March I was back in the mountains in September hiking 10-12 miles a day. If you hit the PT hard and gym you will be in better shape than before. You’ll feel like a new man with no pain!

From: caller79065
19-Apr-19
I had my left knee replaced 2 years ago. The guys that put me under missed on the pain block and I woke up with nothing on board. Was yelling and passing out. THey finally gave me a morphine patch and that took care of it. The sent me home with a much larger patch and just about put me in a coma. Fortunately My RN wife took it off and washed the area down. I was goofy for a week. I did not get a cmp machine to take home but I did use the Ice Man all the time. I did the Pt and it liked to killed me. I had a buddy do both knees 6 weeks apart and all he did was use the CPM machine at home and ride a stationary bike. He has way more range of movement than I do. After 4 months of total misery they put me on Miloxican(Mobic) and I also went and got the Jesus shot in Oklahoma again. Been pretty good ever since, I need the other one done but I don't think I will, at least for a while

From: midwest
19-Apr-19
Lewis, are you in for AZ this year?

19-Apr-19
Good luck Greg, hope your recovery goes better that mine has. I am 43, same as you I had bone on bone, cortisone shots did absolutely nothing, tried the fake chicken fat shots hoping for some relief and that was no help either. Finally had the knee replacement surgery six weeks ago along with the doctor taking out the six screws and two plates from when I fractured my leg just below the knee many years ago. Just as everyone else before has posted, do your exercises, more than your suppose to at home and you will be fine. Hoping for the best to you Greg. Deric

19-Apr-19
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From: 12yards
19-Apr-19
Geez caller79065! Did you get an old civil war surgeon? Feel bad for you. Hope everything turns around and gets better.

From: caller79065
20-Apr-19
Thanks, the surgeon actually did a good job. It was the after care that was so painful, Its been 2 years and it feels pretty good, I don't have the range of movement I used to, but its all good. I gotta say the "Jesus shot" or the dexamethasone, Kenalog and b 12 shot has done wonders for me, Usually lasts about 4 months. Look it up, but don't listen to the people who haven't had it. Theres a lot of rumors and hate out there about it. A different DR is giving it now. It works for me, I have had it 4 times.

From: lewis
20-Apr-19
No Arizona for me this year just got another point that sinus surgery really set me back but had to be addressed before the knees it is what it is hopefully will get a knee done in the very near future Lewis

From: Boris
20-Apr-19
do yourself a big favor. Get the nasal irrigator. It will be the BEST thing you ever got. I had sinus surgery twice. I got it an used it every day. I still use it. In the spring, I use it twice a day. Do to pollen. IT HELPS. I worked in a hospital, an my surgeon used me as his poster child. I believe in that thing.

From: Boris
21-Apr-19
Lewis, I have the SINUS PULSE. It helps get the saline solution up in the cavity much better. YES, it takes some getting use too. Remember that you had surgery. You will have clots. In a tiny space, that will hurt like hell. Get the clots out, NO pain. I also use plan table salt with warm water. NOT hot. Another big plus, during the cold season, I use it everyday. Remember, 90-95% of the colds start in the sinus cavity. A dark moist area. I have not had a kick my butt cold in over 15 years. Also, my daughter was living in Arizona. Having sinus problems. We sent her one, she has not had a problem since.

From: lewis
21-Apr-19
Thanks Boris great info Lewis

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