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Shot Distance on your Mtn Goat?
How long a shot was it when you killed your goat?
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Bou, hoping not to hijack, but rather add to..... And angle up/down?
25 yards downhill 20 degrees
35 yards downhill (don't remember the angle degrees).
62 yards straight at 13,000
11 yards.....slight downward angle....
Angle compensating RF said 50 at severe angle over ledge. Checked after with non-compensating function and read 60.
Glad I had it.
1) 25 yards on the level 2) 35 yards on the level 3) 30 yards slight downhill 4) 30 yards more downhill 5) 6 yards slight uphill 6) 34 yards on the level
I'm really starting to not like Bob....
About 15 to 20 years it's looking...
27 yards Slightly downhill about 10 degrees
6 yds ( after he moved out from 6 feet).
26 yards steep down hill angle.
Blacktail bob is my hero!
I stopped by ADF&G yesterday to pick up new rule changes.
Unit 8, RG480, Kodiak Island South... extend season by approximately 3 months, season dates changed from Aug 20 - Dec 15 to Aug 20 - March 20. Increase bag limit to two (2) goats.
Units 7, 13D and 16, allow brown bears to be taken at bait stations during black bear baiting seasons with a bear baiting permit.
By the end of May, I’ll have cabins in both of these locations. Lookout Mtn Goats and Brown Bears! There is another thread running asking what to do to keep from going stir crazy? Find employment in and move to Alaska, it is truly the Great Land if you’re a Bowhunter.
^^^Couple more years and I will be living there. I can't wait!
More than any other species I've hunted; I think patience is a virtue when hunting Mtn Goats. They will eventually come off those really bad spots to feed and, when they do, you can be there to get a good shot.
My experience is that anything under about 35 yards is a good shot opportunity.
52 yards slight down hill
1)10 yards on the level 2)33yards on the run on the level 3)42 yards on the level 4)44 yards on the level. I finally feel like I compare to Blacktail Bob!
Bob, all your shots were at the same goat like mine, right?
I just got lucky. I understand completely how you could shoot the same goat with multiple arrows.
My story's kinda like Jimmy's^. First shot 12 yards 18 degrees down.
40 yards....straight downhill !...Never been on a Goat hunt when i' didn,nt get hurt / injured !...anyone else "Know that feeling"?
I got to 3 yards on a goat that was feeding, backed up and my buddy with the tag shot it at 4 yards. Idaho.
About 40 yards, slight uphill. Second shot at 5 yards. And, like gohunt, it was at about 13,000 feet.
Goat 1 - 15 yards
Goat 2 - 12 yards (fell off a cliff and never recovered)
Goat 3 - 15 yards
32 yds. slightly down hill.
21 yards, first shot through the neck.
30 yards, second shot full length of body.
He still lived for another 10 minutes before I cound get there, and then started to roll down the hill. Ran up and tied him to a snag to prevent him from going over a 200' drop off.
8 yards straight quartering towards
17 yds. level ground - 12" billy...Oh...you mean when I was awake ?
Ha, Eric b. I was thinking (or dreaming) a very similar senerio!
1st goat 25yrds 2nd goat 30yrds than 65yrd up hill
20 yards slightly up hill. Not enough to matter.
First goat 20 yards, second goat 25 yards
My first (Colo) was under 50 yards straight down dang near.
My second one (Utah) was under 40 yards straight up dang near!
Good luck, Robb
19 yards ... Slightly downhill
1st one 5yds 2nd one 20yds Last one 35yds
45 yards. Bedded. No angle.
15 yds but had to shoot around the 10 or so nannies standing between 18 inches and him
Jack at Babine will confirm the 18" comment as they were right next to him
any other input on this one
My wife Cindy - 24 yrds down a steep slope, walking, slightly quartered away. Double lung, recovered within 100 yds.
Surprised my how close these shots are. Pretty much chip shots...one pin would do 90% of these. I was truly expecting an average of over 40.
My dream hunt and I think I want to do it with Bob!
First goat one shot at 12 yds broadside Second goat 8 yds head on, one arrow
Colorado goat, First shot through the base of the neck, was 22 yards. He went around the corner and the second arrow went completely from left hip to rt shoulder, at 30 yards
32 but was VERY steep angle so had to shoot for 19
1st 24 yards slightly up hill
2nd 53 yards very steep down hill
Great info! I also am starting to dislike/envy Bob! David
Second one was 40 yards level!
#1 forty five yards step downhill.
#2 40 yards slightly up hill.
#1 Alaska 92 yards
#2 Idaho 54 Yards
First shot was 35 yards and just for security a second at 85 yards. He only went 40 yards after the 2nd lung shot.
1st shot 40 yds pretty level, 2nd shot 15 yds steep down after which the goat rolled about 2,000 ft down the mountain.
1st - 28 yards slighly downhill
2nd - 15 yards directly below me
3rd - 22 yards relatively level
4th - 33 yards downhill
1st goat 25 yds 2nd goat 65 yrds up hill
6 feet, straight down. Missed
30 yards, steep down. Killed
is there a long range / in wind advantage on mountain hunts with blazers vs. full vaness
30 YARDS /Chastain T/D @ 74#, Easton 2317, Magnus2,50 Yard recovery in the Colorado High country
23 yds. Unfortunately, I shot him for 28 because I forgot to change my RF back to angle compensation and hit him a little high.
12 yds pretty steep doward angle
35 yards slightly up hill quartered towards me.
30 yds, level, slightly quartered away.
other than an angle compensating rangefinder are their any tips for judging the "hold on distance"
My second goat was 8yds level. No need to try and estimate on your own just use a compensating range finder and take the shot. I like the Leopold RX II with the red reticle.
If you have a rangefinder, but it doesn't have the angle correcting feature, a real quick 'n dirty rule of thumb is: A.) For a thirty degree shot angle (downhill OR uphill), multiply the rangefinder distance by .9 B.) For a forty five degree shot angle (downhill OR uphill), multiply the rangefinder distance by .7 C.) For a sixty degree shot angle (downhill OR uphill), multiply the rangefinder distance by .5
So, for example, if you have a goat feeding beneath you at 30 yards, and you estimate the downhill angle to be 45 degrees, you would use your 20 yard pin. 30 yards multiplied by .7 = 21 yards. Here's the rub, many people tend to over-estimate slope angle.....Remember, the same correction applies for an UPHILL shot.
So in that regard, I agree with Bowboy X 2. Get an angle correcting rangefinder. You don't have to worry about over-estimating slope steepness (so you don't get the angle wrong), you don't have to do the distance correction in your head, and it is an instantaneous reading.
Personally, I find it very difficult to stand on a 60 degree slope....let alone attempt a shot with my bow....and as the angle decreases, my accuracy seems to improve proportionally. I seem to shoot the best when both feet are approximately level....a side hill shot worked better for me, than a steep uphill or downhill shot, if my feet were not level....plus, a sidehill shot doesn't require any angle correction for distance (just be careful not to cant the bow). Uphill and downhill shots weren't difficult if my feet were level. You might want to experiment and see if the same thing applies to you....if not, you are luckier than I am.
57 yards quartering away. Dead in 20 yards.
Blazers are NEVER an advantage for hunting! Noisiest vane in the industry. Check out the Flex Fletch SK-300s...
15 yards 8 yards 18 yards
They are not hard to get close to. But you have to have the right situation.
Those SKs are awesome vanes. Just picked a bunch of them up.
When most of you guys say they aren't hard to get close to (I've hunted a couple with rifle but haven't tried to get super tight with a bow yet - this year) do you find that they are easier to come at from above?
Done enough mountain hunting for sheep, goats, etc but never pursued goats with the bow. I'm just curious about tips or suggestions on stalking to inside 30-40 yards.
Jake...The last thing I need to be doing at "crunch" time is MATH! I agree, one NEEDS a angle comp range finder.
I always come from above if possible. My last one I came in from the side.
If you can get lucky enough to get really close then the angle won't matter; mine was 12 yards.
Awesome info guys, this thread is killing me! I'm off to BC August 2017 with Babine to chase goats for the first time. I'm a little surprised at how close a lot of your shots have been, I hope I am as lucky!
I haven't been able to even get close to a Goat TAG!!! :-(
Glad to hear you can get close to them. I like them close
Never got to hunt one, but when I do it will be 40 yards or less just like everything else...
Funny thread to see years later. Back in 2013 I thought the "long shot" was drawing one in 15-20 years. I'm so glad I took BTB's advice and moved to AK after seeing Nick make the move. Mine was shot at 24 yards on level terrain. Bob's advice was correct. Just watch them and they'll come out of the cliffs eventually.
"I'm a little surprised at how close a lot of your shots have been, I hope I am as lucky!"
Luck has less to do with it than patience. If you start shooting at 60 yards, you'll NEVER get a 20 yard shot.
First one 25 yards, second one 8ish yards.
1st one <20 yards broadside recovered at about 80 yards, second one about 10 yards recovered within 60 yards.
1st one took more shots than Bob has goats....., not proud but it happened. Thought the shot was perfect, not! Last 5 haven't been as eventful as 1st! 12-60 yards, from level to 20 pin at almost 50. By far one of the coolest animals there are in my opinion
"1st one took more shots than Bob has goats." - Sounds a lot like the one I shot this past fall... Shot every arrow in my quiver and at all less than 35 yards, as close as 10. All to watch him do a swan dive over a cliff and into a shit abyss.